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Title: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 10, 2006, 10:08:09 PM
What is the point of everyone "running towards the pile to celebrate" after the tackle is made? I saw this in numerous other videos as well.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: swish1 on May 10, 2006, 10:17:03 PM
build team unity?  plus it looks fun.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Andy on May 10, 2006, 11:31:55 PM
only saw the last half

what did bill say?
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: swish1 on May 11, 2006, 12:05:50 AM
only saw the last half

what did bill say?

not much of anything.  just said ron prince is being ron prince and not trying to be bill snyder, etc.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 05:57:17 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/index?&lpos=globalnav&lid=gn_CollNCF_CollNCF

ESPN Motion.

The jump on the pile thing is dorky.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Stillwater Cat on May 11, 2006, 08:20:41 AM
I laughed when Prince got on the 2 guys (don't know who they were) for not participating in the dog pile.

I thought the whole dog pile thing was kinda funny.  Whatever it takes i guess.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: FBWillie on May 11, 2006, 09:33:16 AM
I laughed when Prince got on the 2 guys (don't know who they were) for not participating in the dog pile.

I thought the whole dog pile thing was kinda funny.  Whatever it takes i guess.

I think one of them was Justin McKinney.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 11, 2006, 09:47:42 AM
ESPN Motion: Go Cougars?!
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: MrWhite on May 11, 2006, 11:06:41 AM
I loved CU's coach saying he jumped out of a plane for the football team.

And that the archer seeks to become the bow.

Beautiful stuff.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Dan Rydell on May 11, 2006, 11:09:40 AM
I like the dog pile thing.  After the last couple of season, we need to do everything possible to encourage tackling.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 11, 2006, 11:19:20 AM
I think the dogpile thing is a direct response to the past couple years.  Whether the former staff meant to do it or not, based on comments we've seen from many players, football at K-State had become so business-like that it wasn't "fun" anymore and that was only emphasized even more with each loss.  This is a direct move to remind these guys that ultimately football is supposed to be fun.  Sure, you need to work hard and you need to be accountable to play your position correctly, but at the end of the day if kids aren't having fun playing the game then you aren't going to get the most out of them.  Also builds team unity, in this case it was showing unity for the defense and by getting on those guys that weren't being a part he was essentually telling them you are part of this team, you may as well enjoy the highs together just as you go through the lows together.  Football is a game that requires a lot of emotion and this is just a little thing that can be done to try to emphasize that.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 11:53:10 AM
I had a coach that tried to get some fake enthusiasm going when someone made a nice play.

We went 1-8 that year.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: FBWillie on May 11, 2006, 11:58:57 AM
Wow, Hard to believe that you played for a team with an attitude/enthusiasm problem.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Dan Rydell on May 11, 2006, 12:03:30 PM
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Wow, Hard to believe that you played for a team with an attitude/enthusiasm problem.

 :lol:

Sorry, Rus...that's just funny.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 12:14:27 PM
I was Most Inspirational Player.

Kid you not.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: mjrod on May 11, 2006, 12:21:15 PM
I was Most Inspirational Player.

Kid you not.

 :loly:
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 12:27:32 PM
It was my helmet sawed in half and mounted to a piece of wood.  Next time I'm at Mom's, I'll take a pic for all to enjoy.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: MrWhite on May 11, 2006, 12:36:53 PM
Next time I'm at Mom's, I'll take a pic for all to enjoy.

So when you get home tonight?
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 11, 2006, 12:43:14 PM
Next time I'm at Mom's, I'll take a pic for all to enjoy.

So when you get home tonight?

.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 12:53:34 PM
fatty, these non-athletes just don't understand.

Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: kougar24 on May 11, 2006, 01:16:09 PM
Rusty, you and I have something in common then, though my Most Inspirational Player was in basketball.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 01:18:24 PM
Rusty, you and I have something in common then, though my Most Inspirational Player was in basketball.

I honestly don't give a crap.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: FBWillie on May 11, 2006, 01:28:58 PM
I was Most Inspirational Player.

Kid you not.

And what was that record again?  1-8?.... way to inspire...
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: kougar24 on May 11, 2006, 01:30:39 PM
Rusty, you and I have something in common then, though my Most Inspirational Player was in basketball.

I honestly don't give a S**T.

Ouch, man...ouch.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 01:40:05 PM
All:


(http://dyn.ifilm.com/image/stills/multimedia/photos/k/2462572_i_1_k_.jpg)

"Don't be hatin'!"
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 11, 2006, 01:48:08 PM
I too was "most inspirational" player in basketball my Senior year of high school.  I had the pleasure of sitting on the bench behind a guy who was 1st team All-State.   

I did however send Chris Piper's stuff out of my house ... twice.

That, and throwing the Javelin with Okie State's own Garth Brooks may be the  highlights of my life ...  :lol:   :lol:

Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: kougar24 on May 11, 2006, 01:49:32 PM
Hey man, I was a MIP who actually played. Not one of those "I warm the bench but I have a good attitude about it!" MIP's.  ;)
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 01:52:15 PM
I was also outstanding offensive lineman.

Bitches.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: mjrod on May 11, 2006, 01:56:20 PM
I was also outstanding offensive lineman.

Bitches.

For a 1-8 team, that's outstanding.

 :beerchug:
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 01:58:02 PM
HM All-CTL-DII

WTYM
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: swish1 on May 11, 2006, 01:58:51 PM
if we're all really bragging about high school sports i too was the most inspirational player for the basketball team.  im not sure if thats an award to be proud of or not though.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: MrWhite on May 11, 2006, 02:02:06 PM
(http://bruce.orel.ws/images/gd-pro.jpg)
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 02:04:19 PM
if we're all really bragging about high school sports i too was the most inspirational player for the basketball team. im not sure if thats an award to be proud of or not though.

Only sissies and girls need inspiration for HS basketball.  Football needs men to be leaders.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: swish1 on May 11, 2006, 02:06:36 PM
if we're all really bragging about high school sports i too was the most inspirational player for the basketball team. im not sure if thats an award to be proud of or not though.

Only sissies and girls need inspiration for HS basketball.  Football needs men to be leaders.

we didnt even have football at my high school.  i had to play soccer instead.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: mjrod on May 11, 2006, 02:09:58 PM
HM All-CTL-DII

WTYM

 :jerkoff:
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Kat Kid on May 11, 2006, 02:35:57 PM
I hope to god that WE ARE---K-STATE crap doesn't catch on.  It is annoying and Soonerish.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Dan Rydell on May 11, 2006, 02:44:59 PM
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I hope to god that WE ARE---K-STATE S**T doesn't catch on.  It is annoying and Soonerish.

I don't think the Sooners do that cheer...it exceeds their word limit by one.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: FBWillie on May 11, 2006, 02:48:49 PM
I hope to god that WE ARE---K-STATE S**T doesn't catch on.  It is annoying and Soonerish.

I'm with you on that one... Pretty lame.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 11, 2006, 02:50:51 PM
I hope to god that WE ARE---K-STATE S**T doesn't catch on.  It is annoying and Soonerish.
Invented by Penn State IIRC.  I like it.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 03:13:38 PM
USC does it, too.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 11, 2006, 03:14:39 PM
Back to the point, as the Boss starts singing (http://bruce.orel.ws/images/glory-b.jpg) in the background....

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I had a coach that tried to get some fake enthusiasm going when someone made a nice play.

This is a valid point.  Kids not buying in and/or losing can have the same effect as the business like approach; it will make little difference and you'll still lose ballgames.  Its too early to see if this technique will work or not.  I for one like seeing more enthusiasm and I try to coach that way myself, but in the end its got to be "real" to the guys or it won't mean much.  I'm hoping that Prince is making the right connections with the team AND has enough talent that whatever he's trying to make unfold through motivational technique, scheme, etc. works.  I'm tired of watching other teams play in late December/early January.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: MrWhite on May 11, 2006, 03:32:15 PM
Enthusiasm works so long as it's accompanied by success.  Start the season off in the crapper and 'rah-rah' techniques will be counter productive.

Right now though, I like it.  Give 'em a fresh start after the abyss.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Kat Kid on May 11, 2006, 03:45:12 PM
I hope to god that WE ARE---K-STATE S**T doesn't catch on.  It is annoying and Soonerish.
Invented by Penn State IIRC.  I like it.

We already have an Uber-distinctive cheer.

I hate when the cheerleaders tried to do Purple Power and all that junk and it just fatigues the crowd when they're asked to cheer during all the time-outs/gamebreaks.  Especially when the cheer is stupid/forced.  I hope this goes the way of the pep band's "hey let's clap until we score!"

One thing I do miss @ the b-ball games.  In the mid-Asbury era was making the human tunnel on the court and giving high fives to the players.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 11, 2006, 04:10:09 PM
The thing is ... in watching a bunch of stuff.  It's not touchy-feely crap all the time ... it's get excited stuff.   

I've seen plenty to convince me these coaches are going to get up in guys grills whey they aren't performing.

Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Super PurpleCat on May 11, 2006, 04:20:56 PM
(http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5992/werekstatewefald2yh.jpg)
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on May 11, 2006, 04:23:52 PM
As for the drill...was it a pursuit thing?  Teaching guys to never give up on a play?


As for HS awards....

Hiawatha High 1994 Male Athlete of the year...and named Best body of the senior class....

My, how things have changed.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 11, 2006, 04:26:06 PM
Hey now, I was all-state in track and started at TE in football.

Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: mjrod on May 11, 2006, 04:28:09 PM
Have we really gone downhill so much that we have to compare our athletic abilities when we were younger?   Sexy Body contest?  In Hiawatha????

Next time I'm in Manhattan, we need to have a tackle football game at the City Park (I did that all the time back in my day.)

We'll see just how much of an athlete you all are.

 :chirp: :chirp:
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Kat Kid on May 11, 2006, 04:55:17 PM
Have we really gone downhill so much that we have to compare our athletic abilities when we were younger?   Sexy Body contest?  In Hiawatha????

Next time I'm in Manhattan, we need to have a tackle football game at the City Park (I did that all the time back in my day.)

We'll see just how much of an athlete you all are.

 :chirp: :chirp:
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: FBWillie on May 11, 2006, 04:58:18 PM
Have we really gone downhill so much that we have to compare our athletic abilities when we were younger?   Sexy Body contest?  In Hiawatha????

Next time I'm in Manhattan, we need to have a tackle football game at the City Park (I did that all the time back in my day.)

We'll see just how much of an athlete you all are.

 :chirp: :chirp:


I'd be down for that... Wait.... How old is everyone in here?
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: mjrod on May 11, 2006, 05:01:26 PM
Have we really gone downhill so much that we have to compare our athletic abilities when we were younger?   Sexy Body contest?  In Hiawatha????

Next time I'm in Manhattan, we need to have a tackle football game at the City Park (I did that all the time back in my day.)

We'll see just how much of an athlete you all are.

 :chirp: :chirp:


I'd be down for that... Wait.... How old is everyone in here?

Be gentle with me.  I'm 40.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2006, 05:13:26 PM
Have we really gone downhill so much that we have to compare our athletic abilities when we were younger?   Sexy Body contest?  In Hiawatha????

Next time I'm in Manhattan, we need to have a tackle football game at the City Park (I did that all the time back in my day.)

We'll see just how much of an athlete you all are.

 :chirp: :chirp:

I will &@#% up anyone who dares to cross me.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Kat Kid on May 11, 2006, 06:26:30 PM
Have we really gone downhill so much that we have to compare our athletic abilities when we were younger?   Sexy Body contest?  In Hiawatha????

Next time I'm in Manhattan, we need to have a tackle football game at the City Park (I did that all the time back in my day.)

We'll see just how much of an athlete you all are.

 :chirp: :chirp:

I will F**k up anyone who dares to cross me.

No one here could guard me, no one here would pass to my side of the field, no one here could stop me.

You gimp kneed bastages would get embarassed.

I will admit there is no way I would try to tackle MJ, but him catching up to me is a joke.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: mjrod on May 11, 2006, 06:28:19 PM
Have we really gone downhill so much that we have to compare our athletic abilities when we were younger?   Sexy Body contest?  In Hiawatha????

Next time I'm in Manhattan, we need to have a tackle football game at the City Park (I did that all the time back in my day.)

We'll see just how much of an athlete you all are.

 :chirp: :chirp:

I will F**k up anyone who dares to cross me.

No one here could guard me, no one here would pass to my side of the field, no one here could stop me.

You gimp kneed bastages would get embarassed.

I will admit there is no way I would try to tackle MJ, but him catching up to me is a joke.

Is that a challenge?
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on May 11, 2006, 06:52:42 PM
Have we really gone downhill so much that we have to compare our athletic abilities when we were younger?   Sexy Body contest?  In Hiawatha????

Next time I'm in Manhattan, we need to have a tackle football game at the City Park (I did that all the time back in my day.)

We'll see just how much of an athlete you all are.

 :chirp: :chirp:


Maybe I didn't make it clear enough, but I was making fun with that post...  :)

Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 12, 2006, 08:57:49 AM
NATION, per your question.  No, it was not a pursuit drill.  It was situational scrimmage on the goalline.  And what Prince wanted was when a defensive stop was made, the entire defense was to go out and celebrate with the unit on the field on that stop.  Again, the emphasis is a) on this is a game so have some fun playing it and b) to build team unity and get rid of selfishness.  At the very end, he gets on the two that are slow going out and says "quit pouting" which implies that they were probably taken out and were upset.  Prince was saying get over yourselves and go celebrate what your team has just done.  It may seem like something that should be inherent, but more and more its not and you have to teach and coach it.  As long as its not overemphasized (and I doubt it is, this was a situational deal to make a point I'm sure) IMO its a very good thing.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: kougar24 on May 12, 2006, 11:47:43 AM
I was also outstanding offensive lineman.

Bitches.

Fatass.
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: Andy on May 12, 2006, 02:05:38 PM
Enthusiasm works so long as it's accompanied by success.  Start the season off in the crapper and 'rah-rah' techniques will be counter productive.


(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2899/pena4um.jpg)
Title: Re: Just watched the ESPN all access highlight on Prince
Post by: MrWhite on May 12, 2006, 02:54:10 PM
We believe!

Nosotrous creemos!