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Title: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: FBWillie on August 30, 2007, 11:26:47 AM
As I mentioned in another thread, I'm trying to buy a lens as I'm getting into sports photography.  I'm shooting with a Canon 20D, needing a pretty fast EF lens, can't afford Image Stabilization just yet,  but wanting something in the 100-300 MM range.   I'm seeing a lot of generic lens' like Tamron, Sigma, Vivitar, Quantaray, Tokina, etc.   

Has anyone ever shot with one of those?  Are any of them worth a crap?  I don't want to spend $100 on something that I'm not going to like, so I've just been looking at Canon Brand name lenses. But if I could get something as good for less it would be worth it to a guy like me.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: michigancat on August 30, 2007, 11:43:58 AM
I wish I could afford a good camera.  I like photography.

Here's probably my best picture ever:

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/rlj4794/Cupinis/IMG_0700.jpg)

Yeah, I kind of suck.  But I still like it.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 30, 2007, 12:46:12 PM
Quote
I like photography.


qft. photographer majors @ ksu = really really cool.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: steve dave on August 30, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
I have a Cannon SD600 that I really like.  You can get it really cheap and it fits in your pocket.  It takes ok mpeg videos with sound and the pictures are very crisp.  Got a good review on Cnet

http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cameras/canon-powershot-sd600/4505-6501_7-31740583.html

You can get one on ebay for almost nothing. 

http://photography.search.ebay.com/canon-sd600_Digital-Cameras_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR40QQsacatZ29997
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: FBWillie on August 30, 2007, 04:45:22 PM
Quote
I like photography.


qft. photographer majors @ ksu = really really cool.

really hoping that wasn't sarcasm.   

I wish I could afford a good camera.  I like photography.

Here's probably my best picture ever:

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/rlj4794/Cupinis/IMG_0700.jpg)

Yeah, I kind of suck.  But I still like it.

Nice, I wouldn't say you suck.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: cyclist on August 30, 2007, 09:24:40 PM
As I mentioned in another thread, I'm trying to buy a lens as I'm getting into sports photography.  I'm shooting with a Canon 20D, needing a pretty fast EF lens, can't afford Image Stabilization just yet,  but wanting something in the 100-300 MM range.   I'm seeing a lot of generic lens' like Tamron, Sigma, Vivitar, Quantaray, Tokina, etc.   

Has anyone ever shot with one of those?  Are any of them worth a crap?  I don't want to spend $100 on something that I'm not going to like, so I've just been looking at Canon Brand name lenses. But if I could get something as good for less it would be worth it to a guy like me.

FB,

I use a Nikon D70.  I use Nikon lenses mostly, but recently bought Sigma f/1.8 24mm lens (on Nikon's it is the equivalent of a 36mm lens; 1.5 crop factor).  It's a good lens.  I'd see if you can find a Canon version of this:

http://www.nikonians.org/ (http://www.nikonians.org/)

A good users community will have folks who might have the 3rd party lenses you are considering and they aren't shy about opinions.

Also, Ken Rockwell's site may have some reviews on Canon brand lenses:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/ (http://www.kenrockwell.com/)

I will say that he doesn't care much for third party lenses...

Good luck !
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: greasd up deaf guy on August 30, 2007, 11:13:22 PM
I wish I could afford a good camera.  I like photography.

Here's probably my best picture ever:

(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/rlj4794/Cupinis/IMG_0700.jpg)

Yeah, I kind of suck.  But I still like it.
That's a fine shot. You don't suck at all.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: michigancat on August 30, 2007, 11:23:18 PM
:blush:
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: steve dave on August 30, 2007, 11:30:06 PM
:blush:

Stick to the music Rus  :rolleyes:  awww... just f'ing with ya.  That is pretty good in the kind of good that the kid from American Beauty likes the bag blowing in the wind good.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 30, 2007, 11:32:10 PM



Stick to the music Rus  :rolleyes:


 :eek:
awww... just f'ing with ya. 

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on August 30, 2007, 11:41:49 PM
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/k_statealan/HPIM0621.jpg)
(http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o84/k_statealan/HPIM0509.jpg)
Yes, that's a hummingbird.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: greasd up deaf guy on August 30, 2007, 11:59:36 PM
I don't have much for skills either. The only two I've ever taken that are worth sharing:
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i34/crankysalmon/2213242.jpg)
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i34/crankysalmon/theBigO-edited2.jpg)

Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: FBWillie on August 31, 2007, 09:10:59 AM
As I mentioned in another thread, I'm trying to buy a lens as I'm getting into sports photography.  I'm shooting with a Canon 20D, needing a pretty fast EF lens, can't afford Image Stabilization just yet,  but wanting something in the 100-300 MM range.   I'm seeing a lot of generic lens' like Tamron, Sigma, Vivitar, Quantaray, Tokina, etc.   

Has anyone ever shot with one of those?  Are any of them worth a crap?  I don't want to spend $100 on something that I'm not going to like, so I've just been looking at Canon Brand name lenses. But if I could get something as good for less it would be worth it to a guy like me.

FB,

I use a Nikon D70.  I use Nikon lenses mostly, but recently bought Sigma f/1.8 24mm lens (on Nikon's it is the equivalent of a 36mm lens; 1.5 crop factor).  It's a good lens.  I'd see if you can find a Canon version of this:

http://www.nikonians.org/ (http://www.nikonians.org/)

A good users community will have folks who might have the 3rd party lenses you are considering and they aren't shy about opinions.

Also, Ken Rockwell's site may have some reviews on Canon brand lenses:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/ (http://www.kenrockwell.com/)

I will say that he doesn't care much for third party lenses...

Good luck !
Thanks.  I'm actually biding on a used Sigma EF mount as we speak.  Hope I get it!
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: FBWillie on August 31, 2007, 09:27:26 AM
and since everyone's showing off their stuff; here's a couple of random shots I have on my work computer:

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/wildcatjerrod/Photography/_MG_5621.jpg)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j11/wildcatjerrod/Photography/_MG_4133.jpg)
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: Dan Rydell on August 31, 2007, 07:36:26 PM
(http://www.therattler.net/photo1.jpg)

(http://www.therattler.net/photo2.jpg)

(http://www.therattler.net/photo3.jpg)

(http://www.therattler.net/photo5.jpg)

(http://www.therattler.net/photo6.jpg)

(http://www.therattler.net/photo4.jpg)
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: cyclist on August 31, 2007, 07:40:53 PM
As I mentioned in another thread, I'm trying to buy a lens as I'm getting into sports photography.  I'm shooting with a Canon 20D, needing a pretty fast EF lens, can't afford Image Stabilization just yet,  but wanting something in the 100-300 MM range.   I'm seeing a lot of generic lens' like Tamron, Sigma, Vivitar, Quantaray, Tokina, etc.   

Has anyone ever shot with one of those?  Are any of them worth a crap?  I don't want to spend $100 on something that I'm not going to like, so I've just been looking at Canon Brand name lenses. But if I could get something as good for less it would be worth it to a guy like me.

FB,

I use a Nikon D70.  I use Nikon lenses mostly, but recently bought Sigma f/1.8 24mm lens (on Nikon's it is the equivalent of a 36mm lens; 1.5 crop factor).  It's a good lens.  I'd see if you can find a Canon version of this:

http://www.nikonians.org/ (http://www.nikonians.org/)

A good users community will have folks who might have the 3rd party lenses you are considering and they aren't shy about opinions.

Also, Ken Rockwell's site may have some reviews on Canon brand lenses:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/ (http://www.kenrockwell.com/)

I will say that he doesn't care much for third party lenses...

Good luck !
Thanks.  I'm actually biding on a used Sigma EF mount as we speak.  Hope I get it!

FB,

Good luck on your auction.

Here are a couple Canon User Web Pages:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/ (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/)

http://forums.powershot-a.com/ (http://forums.powershot-a.com/)

Don't know how good they are, just did a quick Google and this turned up.

A little more research could get you some good results for user communities...



Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: cyclist on August 31, 2007, 07:49:47 PM
Some of my pictures:

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5380/3501/320/TTR%20Atchison1.jpg)

(http://bp2.blogger.com/_252u49YnX_U/Rku4kJSdsBI/AAAAAAAAADE/ySLivnBc_Tc/s320/DSC_4857.jpg)

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6155/2870/320/DSC_3735.jpg)

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6155/2870/320/DSC_3782.jpg)

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6155/2870/320/DSC_3951.jpg)

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6155/2870/320/DSC_4027.jpg)

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6155/2870/320/DSC_4070.jpg)
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: Dan Rydell on August 31, 2007, 09:41:47 PM
I especially like that Liberty Memorial shot, cyclist.

FBWillie:  you need one of these babies:

New Casio shoots 60-300 fps. (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/super-slo_mo/casios-exilim-cam-lets-you-shoot-300-frames-per-second-mythbusters+style-295491.php)   :lick:
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: greasd up deaf guy on September 01, 2007, 01:15:12 AM
slimz, willie, cyclist....
terrific stuff.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: Dan Rydell on September 01, 2007, 09:39:08 AM
slimz, willie, cyclist....
terrific stuff.

You too, Trout.

I forgot to mention that I use a Fuji Finepix S7000 (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms7000/).  Bought it just about when the first digital DLRs were coming out and were $$$.  It provides a lot of the manual control of an SLR, but no interchangeable lenses.   :crybaby:  It's served me well, but I'd really like to get a true digital SLR sometime in the next year or two, especially now that the prices are coming down.

My film camera is a classic:  the Minolta SR-T 101 (http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Minolta_SRT_101).  It was originally my grandpa's, who was a reporter and later bureau chief for the AP.  As much as I love the flexibility and instant feedback of digital, there's still nothing like holding the Minolta in my hands and snapping off a few shots.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: ECN on September 01, 2007, 10:50:07 AM
i dont know what im doing. i just love to take pictures. they are dull.

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/KingslyZissou/DSCN05160082.jpg)
my cigars

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/KingslyZissou/DSCN04420083.jpg)
my newphew and my dog. lake michigan

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/KingslyZissou/DSCN00300084.jpg)
a giant cigar

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/KingslyZissou/DSCN00150085.jpg)
my birdfeeder

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/KingslyZissou/DSCN00020086.jpg)
rosemary is my favorite herb
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: ECN on September 01, 2007, 10:57:07 AM
slimz..your pics are great.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: Dan Rydell on September 01, 2007, 11:24:06 AM
slimz..your pics are great.

Thanks, ECN. 

Did you have a macro lens or mode you used for the cigar and birdfeeder shots?  They're cool.  I should do more macro myself...
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: ECN on September 01, 2007, 11:15:17 PM
yeah, i used macro..i love that feature...just have to have a steady hand.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: Dan Rydell on September 01, 2007, 11:52:03 PM
yeah, i used macro..i love that feature...just have to have a steady hand.

Invest in a $10 tripod, it's worth it.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: Duncan on September 04, 2007, 11:11:20 PM
check out this website:

http://www.dpreview.com/ (http://www.dpreview.com/)

pretty good forums (you have to register to search the forums, and you can't use a web-based addy, only a isp one)

another good website:

http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00JMsd (http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00JMsd)

if you are looking at the 200mm+ range, you'll need a pretty fast lense to freeze the action.  IS won't help, it'll only reduce blur from shaking.

oh, and always shoot in jpeg for sports, not raw.  you'll fit a lot more shots in the buffer.

some favorite shots of mine (no sports though):

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/26/48884614_eee4b97513_b.jpg)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/347246474_e29f174632_b.jpg)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/33/38754038_56e6d050a8_b.jpg)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/25347357_6209093972_b.jpg)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/25061854_4d3ec130a2_b.jpg)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/98508376_3eab517621_b.jpg)














Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: ECN on September 11, 2007, 09:57:45 AM
part one of my series.

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h137/KingslyZissou/ThinkingKetchup.jpg)
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: Skycat on September 11, 2007, 05:41:31 PM
I know it's been a while since the question was asked, but:

Sigma is the best of the third party lens makers IMO.  Tamron and Tokina have a few good lenses as well, but I'm not sure if they have stuff in the focal lengths that you're interested in. 

You can get away with an f/4 or maybe even f/5.6 if you are only going to shoot outdoors during the day, but you'll want faster than that (f/2.8) if you want to shoot inside or at night games.

On the plus side, that 20D of yours will allow you to push the ISO up pretty high and still get good results.

Some really nice shots in this thread.

Here are a few of mine I like:

(http://www.machafamily.org/Albums/Hawaii/slides/DSC_4322.jpg)

(http://www.machafamily.org/Albums/Hawaii/slides/DSC_4783.JPG)

(http://www.machafamily.org/Albums/KC/slides/DSC_3063.jpg)

(http://www.machafamily.org/Albums/Bugs/slides/DSC_2889.jpg)

(http://www.machafamily.org/Albums/Flowers/slides/DSC_6597.jpg)

(http://www.machafamily.org/Albums/Austin/slides/DSC_8067.JPG)

(http://www.machafamily.org/Albums/Jake/2007july4/slides/DSC_8146.jpg)

(http://www.machafamily.org/Albums/Jake/2007mayjune/slides/DSC_8052.jpg)


Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: ECN on September 11, 2007, 06:23:50 PM
F"n beautiful!!!
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: KSt8er on September 12, 2007, 12:36:08 PM
WOW, some truly great shots from you guys.   Skycat - what was the elevation where you took that first shot, and where, Rockies?  Did the lizard make the right choice? 
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: Skycat on September 12, 2007, 01:23:27 PM
Skycat - what was the elevation where you took that first shot, and where, Rockies?  Did the lizard make the right choice? 

The first one was taken on Haleakala, a dead volcano on Maui.  Elevation wise, google says it's a 10k peak, so I was probably at about 8000 feet or so for that one.

That lizard lived in the drain in our bathroom sink for about a week, until I set him free.

I forgot to mention, the first one and the one of the bridge were made with a Sigma 10-20 lens.  The last one of my son was made with a Sigma 30 f/1.4.  And the rest were with various Nikon lenses.

I shoot with a Nikon D70s, at least until Novemeber when I'll get a new Nikon D300.  :lick:
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: FBWillie on September 13, 2007, 12:58:05 PM
I know it's been a while since the question was asked, but:

Sigma is the best of the third party lens makers IMO.  Tamron and Tokina have a few good lenses as well, but I'm not sure if they have stuff in the focal lengths that you're interested in. 

You can get away with an f/4 or maybe even f/5.6 if you are only going to shoot outdoors during the day, but you'll want faster than that (f/2.8) if you want to shoot inside or at night games.

On the plus side, that 20D of yours will allow you to push the ISO up pretty high and still get good results.

Some really nice shots in this thread.

Here are a few of mine I like:




Beautiful stuff;   And thanks for the advice.  I think for now, I'm going to have to settle for something cheap until I can make enough $$ to get what I really want.

And BTW, since there are a lot photographers here...   are any of you members of www.sportsshooter.com ?

I've been looking around that place for some time and have been wanting to become a member, but you need current member  to sponsor you.


Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: Skycat on September 13, 2007, 02:19:01 PM
Yeah, sports is one of the most expensive things to shoot.  Big glass = $$$$$.

I havne't done any sports photography myself, although I'd like to give it a try sometime.  I've checked out sportsshooter a few times, but I don't know any members.
Title: Re: Any Photographers out there?
Post by: greasd up deaf guy on September 23, 2007, 07:09:18 PM
Hadn't been on this thread for a while. Skycat, cyclist, slimz, ECN.....all great shots. I took a little excursion today and came up with some stuff that isn't the the level you guys have, but they're decent for me. I have a crappy little point-and-click and it's ok for this kind of stuff:

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i34/crankysalmon/221450.jpg)

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i34/crankysalmon/215851.jpg)

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i34/crankysalmon/212020.jpg)

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i34/crankysalmon/200001.jpg)

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i34/crankysalmon/230438.jpg)