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Title: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: DrJamesANaismith on August 23, 2007, 07:55:36 AM
Bogarted from a familiar place to most of you:

Dalboy wrote: I can give you a breakdown of how many are still on the K-State team compared to how many signed on signing day. For specific names I can just offer the 9 players from the 2007 recruiting class who didn't make it to Manhattan, or left shortly after arriving.

2004 - 26 signed - 7 still on team
2005 - 26 signed - 9 still on team
2006 - 28 signed - 21 still on team
2007 - 32 signed - 23 still on team

2007 signees who didn't make it with Rivals rankings to the side:

Richard Evans **
Brian Harris **
Reggie Haynes **
Danny Hogan **
Jerrell McDaniel ***
Dante Pinchback ***
Jake Roepke **
Eldridge Sims ***
Brandon Walls ***

DrJ = Concerned
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2007, 07:57:17 AM
THANKS SNYDER!

:curse:
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2007, 07:59:24 AM
Pussys, cancers to the team, etc.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 23, 2007, 07:59:57 AM
Bogarted from a familiar place to most of you:

Dalboy wrote: I can give you a breakdown of how many are still on the K-State team compared to how many signed on signing day. For specific names I can just offer the 9 players from the 2007 recruiting class who didn't make it to Manhattan, or left shortly after arriving.

2004 - 26 signed - 7 still on team
2005 - 26 signed - 9 still on team
2006 - 28 signed - 21 still on team
2007 - 32 signed - 23 still on team

2007 signees who didn't make it with Rivals rankings to the side:

Richard Evans **
Brian Harris **
Reggie Haynes **
Danny Hogan **
Jerrell McDaniel ***
Dante Pinchback ***
Jake Roepke **
Eldridge Sims ***
Brandon Walls ***

DrJ = Concerned


I'm sure these numbers were not in any way fluffed by JC signees.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 23, 2007, 08:18:11 AM
and sure enough....JC's...so basically 15 out of the 26 pretty much played for KSU and exhausted their eligibility or likely will.  This is different from classes anywhere else how?  Even several of the others contributed to the program before being either kicked off the team or transferring.  Four years down the line you would find similar numbers on just about any team...particularly those who sign a number of JC's.

Still on team
Brett Alstatt RB  6-4 220 4.6 5.1  Hays, KS
Jordan Bedore ATH  6-4 250 4.74 5.2   Goodland, KS
Caleb Handy OL  6-2 300 5.17 5.5  Conway Springs, KS
Jared Parker K  6-0 185 - 5.4   Ankeny, IA
Vladimir Faustin DE  6-3 235 4.7 5.2   Miami, FL
Brad Rooker OL  6-7 260 4.85 5.2   Omaha, NE
Gerard Spexarth OL  6-6 301 5.3 5.5  Andale, KS
Cedric Wilson ATH  6-1 175 4.44 5.6   Fort Pierce, FL

played and exhausted eligibility
Yamon Figurs WR  6-0 180 4.4 -   Garden City, KS
Tearrius George DT  6-4 265 5.2 -   Valley Glen, CA
Surrell Davis DB  6-0 200 4.45 -   San Mateo, CA
Kyle Williams DB  6-1 190 4.4 -   Coriscana, TX
Maurice Porter DB  6-1 190 4.48 -   San Francisco, CA
Bret Jones DB  6-1 195 4.5 -   San Francisco, CA
Jesse Martinez ATH  6-6 214 4.4 -   Santa Rosa, CA

quit the team
Matt Boss OL  6-5 315 4.81 5.9  Cherryvale, KS


Kicked off team due to academics or issues w/ law
Aaron Darks LB  6-1 205 4.52 5.5   Lufkin, TX
Ryan Schmidt OL  6-5 293 4.78 5.3   Boca Raton, FL
Parrish Fisher RB  5-9 204 4.4 5.7  Richardson, TX 
Romunn Grigsby WR  6-4 185 4.5 5.2   Clayton, OH 
Walter Hudson DB  6-0 184 4.4 5.7   Dallas, TX

Opted to transfer
Allan Evridge QB  6-1 205 4.5 5.5  Papillion, NE
Justin D'Arcy OL  6-6 305 5.1 -   Aptos, CA
John Hafferty OL  6-3 305 4.87 5.5  Alpharetta, GA

Never qualified
Lester Graham LB  6-0 215 4.48 5.2   Fort Pierce, FL
Nick Patton QB  6-3 205 4.4 5.9  Winfield, KS


 
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 23, 2007, 08:46:07 AM
for example....Oklahoma signing class of 2002 on the 2005 OU roster..

of 24 2002 signees only 11 on the 2005 roster.  Of the 2003 24 signees only 12 were on the 2005 roster.

signed 24 but only 11 were on the 2005 roster.
Rufus  Alexander LB  6-2 215 4.49 -   Baton Rouge, LA
Larry Birdine DE  6-4 230 4.7 -   Lawton, OK
Jason Carter DB  6-0 178 4.4 -   Jenks, OK
Davin Joseph OL  6-4 290 4.87 -   Hallandale, FL
Zach Latimer LB  6-4 215 4.4 -   Aurora, CO
Chris Messner OL  6-7 240 4.8 -   Frederick, OK
Jejuan Rankins WR  6-0 175 4.41 -   Windsor, NC
J.D. Runnels RB  6-1 230 4.5 -   Midwest City, OK
Calvin Thibodeaux DE  6-1 240 4.69 -   Houston, TX
Paul Thompson ATH  6-4 195 4.5 -   Leander, TX
Travis Wilson WR  6-3 200 4.4 -   Carrollton


exhausted eligibility
Pasha Jackson LB  6-3 230 4.5 -   San Francisco, CA
Lance Mitchell LB  6-2 240 4.6 -   San Francisco, CA

left early for draft
Brodney Pool DB  6-3 193 4.5 -   Houston, TX


No longer on team for any number of reasons
Noah Allen QB  6-3 209 4.7 -   Pearland, TX
DaBryan Blanton ATH  6-0 165 4.3 -   Forney, TX
Wayne Chambers LB  6-3 235 4.6 -   Grandview, MO
Abner Estrada OL  6-4 275 5.2 -   Carrollton, TX
Micheal Hawkins DB  6-1 170 4.4 -   Carrollton, TX
Jeff Lebby OL  6-5 275 5.1 -   Andrews, TX 
Aaron Miller DB  6-2 175 4.4 -   Fresno, CA
Laenar Nixon TE  6-3 210 4.6 -   Miami, FL
Josh Roberts K  6-0 165 - -   Malta, MT
Steve Taylor OL  6-7 320 5.1 -   Purcell, OK

Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: pissclams on August 23, 2007, 08:50:24 AM
We're screwed!  (but still better than ku)   :flush:
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 23, 2007, 09:09:58 AM
Hatter goes Sitting Bull to Doc's Custer.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: catdude33 on August 23, 2007, 11:27:06 AM
Pussys, cancers to the team, etc.

I lol everytime I read this.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on August 23, 2007, 11:47:09 AM
Florida has less than 10 remaining from 2004 or 2005.

Anyways...

2004 - 26 signed - 7 still on team
2005 - 26 signed - 9 still on team

Snyder quits, Ron Prince hired :ksu:

2006 - 28 signed - 21 still on team
2007 - 32 signed - 23 still on team
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on August 23, 2007, 11:49:11 AM
Also, it seems like ku fans don't understand the concept of JUCO placements.

Richard Evans **
Brian Harris **
Reggie Haynes **

Danny Hogan **
Jerrell McDaniel ***
Dante Pinchback ***
[/i]
Jake Roepke **
Eldridge Sims ***
Brandon Walls ***

Bold means JUCO placement
Italic means chance to qualify, likely JUCO placement
Underline means retard
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: stormnut on August 23, 2007, 12:01:27 PM
Also, it seems like ku fans don't understand the concept of JUCO placements.

Richard Evans **
Brian Harris **
Reggie Haynes **

Danny Hogan **
Jerrell McDaniel ***
Dante Pinchback ***
[/i]
Jake Roepke **
Eldridge Sims ***
Brandon Walls ***

Bold means JUCO placement
Italic means chance to qualify, likely JUCO placement
Underline means retard

That is because coaches would take test for them so they did not have to place them.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 23, 2007, 12:07:47 PM
Naismith w/ ku math logic 101...

teams consistently good in power conference = high turnover
teams < .500 in conference every year = A-okie dokers due to sucky players staying in program

and I'm spent.

Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on August 23, 2007, 12:26:13 PM
Naismith w/ ku math logic 101...

teams consistently good in power conference = high turnover
teams < .500 in conference every year = A-okie dokers due to sucky players staying in program

and I'm spent.




WOW, that's a lot of information... very nice to have an honest take.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: cireksu on August 23, 2007, 12:28:57 PM
How does your ass feel naismith, because it just got pounded.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: vanro031 on August 23, 2007, 12:34:46 PM
Naismith w/ ku math logic 101...

teams consistently good in power conference = high turnover
teams < .500 in conference every year = A-okie dokers due to sucky players staying in program

and I'm spent.


Spin it baby,, spin it..... :koolaid:
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: Jayhoxx on August 23, 2007, 12:37:34 PM
KSU = OU = Florida
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: Legore on August 23, 2007, 12:43:09 PM
A bunch of those 2007 recruits were known placements when they signed.  Obviously when you sign 32 they are not all going to show up.  Our attrition from the 04 and 05 classes was probably a little high but that is what a coaching change does to you.   The 06 class class  has a higher then normal retention rate and a unusually high number of contributers after only one year. 
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: The Manhatter on August 23, 2007, 03:24:39 PM
here is a spin.

3-5 and 4-4

ku fans know what those numbers mean and that 4-4 looks like a mountain to climb.  So while these numbers are all very entertaining....let's remember 3-5 and 4-4.  REAL numbers.

Thanks hox. 
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: Bookcat on August 23, 2007, 03:27:05 PM
KSU = OU = Florida

What are..teams that have won an outright conference football title AFTER 1930, Alex?
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: BMWJhawk on August 23, 2007, 03:28:22 PM
ku - 39
KSU - 20

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: catdude33 on August 23, 2007, 03:30:45 PM
ku - 39
KSU - 20

 :popcorn:

Zing! 

P.S.  Remember how you've never gone to back to back bowls?  LOLz.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 23, 2007, 03:31:34 PM
ku Football . . . searching for it's 4th winning conference season in the last 29 years.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2007, 03:36:57 PM
ku - 39
KSU - 20

 :popcorn:

LOL at your disgusting wife
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: BMWJhawk on August 23, 2007, 03:38:16 PM
K-State.... ZERO National Championships in any sport.

Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: BMWJhawk on August 23, 2007, 03:38:50 PM
ku - 39
KSU - 20

 :popcorn:

LOL at your disgusting wife


*Not married (single)

Next?
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2007, 03:46:30 PM
*Not married (single)

Next?

She dumped you  :eek:  Man, you are scraping the bottom.  You are better off without her.  Remember when Mancer called her a Fatty?
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: BMWJhawk on August 23, 2007, 03:48:53 PM
Do you consider yourself funny?

Just wondering.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: steve dave on August 23, 2007, 03:54:37 PM
Do you consider yourself funny?

 :blush:
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: Pett on August 23, 2007, 04:49:26 PM
ku - 39
KSU - 20

 :popcorn:

How are you going to post after Oct. 6th??
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: JTKSU on August 24, 2007, 12:44:18 PM
ku - 39
KSU - 20

 :popcorn:

LOL at your disgusting wife


*Not married (single)

Next?
I thought they legalized that special type of union you share with your significant other in Lawrence?  Just haven't made in down to the courthouse yet?
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on August 24, 2007, 01:28:02 PM
to Bookcat, catdude33, and sonofdaxjones... I say... MUAAAHHH AHHHH HAHA HA AH AH AHA HA, that was some funny stuff! Excellent points, I would say the door was left WIDE open for that stuff... simply hilarious!
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: PowercatPosse on August 24, 2007, 02:13:51 PM
 
It is also funny when ku fans try and talk stats and numbers in football.  I meen seriously.  They don't know what 4-4 even is.  They probably think it is a defense you play on goal line situations..... :lol:


After this year when they finish 4th or 5th in the North and get 2 or 3 conf wins (yet again).... it is really going to go South for ku the next 2 years.  South as in playing UT, OU, and Tech.   

Of course even if they go 3-13 in those 2 yrs with the tough schedule, as long as they go 1-1 vs Ksu, they will feel somewhat good about themselves.... :kugayfight:
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: kst8cat on August 24, 2007, 02:47:43 PM
K-State.... ZERO National Championships in any sport.



Oh really?  So is this story a fake?

http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=923041
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: ednksu on August 24, 2007, 02:52:53 PM
K-State.... ZERO National Championships in any sport.



even bonds thinks you need an * next to your banners.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: Sandman on August 24, 2007, 03:11:00 PM
K-State.... ZERO National Championships in any sport.



Oh really?  So is this story a fake?

http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=923041

It's in reference to teams sports.  KSU is the only Big 12 school to have never had a National Championship in any team sport.  The only school.  Out of 12.  It's the only one.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: catdude33 on August 24, 2007, 03:36:45 PM
Surely our equestrian team has won a NC.  Isn't their only like 4 or 5 equestrian teams in the whole country?
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: kst8cat on August 24, 2007, 05:35:11 PM
Surely our equestrian team has won a NC.  Isn't their only like 4 or 5 equestrian teams in the whole country?

Yes, our equestrian team has won the NC, both as a team as well as individual riders.  There are currently 19 Division 1 schools that have a team including four from the Big 12:  KSU, Texas A&M, OSU, and Baylor.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: waks on August 26, 2007, 05:09:13 PM
How many times are ku fans going to embarrass themselves in a single thread?
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: redinco on August 26, 2007, 05:41:33 PM
Surely our equestrian team has won a NC.  Isn't their only like 4 or 5 equestrian teams in the whole country?

Yes, our equestrian team has won the NC, both as a team as well as individual riders.  There are currently 19 Division 1 schools that have a team including four from the Big 12:  KSU, Texas A&M, OSU, and Baylor.
And let me be the first to congratulate you for your championship equestrian team. 

By the way, where it the equestrian forum?
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: Sandman on August 26, 2007, 08:24:08 PM
How many times are ku fans going to embarrass themselves in a single thread?

http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/champs_listing1.html

Find KSU on the list linked here.

And then scroll all the way to bottom on this link from the Big 12's official site.  It lists the Big 12 schools with team championships.

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/big12/genrel/auto_pdf/national-champs.pdf
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: doom on August 26, 2007, 08:30:30 PM
How many times are ku fans going to embarrass themselves in a single thread?

http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/champs_listing1.html

Find KSU on the list linked here.

And then scroll all the way to bottom on this link from the Big 12's official site.  It lists the Big 12 schools with team championships.

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/big12/genrel/auto_pdf/national-champs.pdf

ku isn't on there either.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: waks on August 26, 2007, 08:37:35 PM
How many times are ku fans going to embarrass themselves in a single thread?

http://www.ncaa.org/champadmin/champs_listing1.html

Find KSU on the list linked here.

And then scroll all the way to bottom on this link from the Big 12's official site.  It lists the Big 12 schools with team championships.

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/big12/genrel/auto_pdf/national-champs.pdf
ku isn't in the Big XII registry either. Maybe that could be because ku hasn't won a national championship since the Big XII was formed?

Equestrian isn't on the list of sports sponsored by the NCAA. There are still over 20 teams that participate in it though.

Basically:

How many times are ku fans going to embarrass themselves in a single thread?
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: Sandman on August 27, 2007, 12:15:48 AM
ku isn't in the Big XII registry either. Maybe that could be because ku hasn't won a national championship since the Big XII was formed?

Equestrian isn't on the list of sports sponsored by the NCAA. There are still over 20 teams that participate in it though.

Basically:

How many times are ku fans going to embarrass themselves in a single thread?

The link told me ku has nine total national titles.  True they haven't had any since the Big 12 formed.  But they do have nine total.  KSU=0.

And if it's not sponsored by the NCAA, then it is not an NCAA sport.  That should be pretty simple to understand.  But the fact your trying (and failing) to hang your hat on equestrian makes me chuckle.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 27, 2007, 12:19:25 AM
lol@idiot ku fans braggin about national titles.

Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: kst8cat on August 27, 2007, 01:33:40 AM
And if it's not sponsored by the NCAA, then it is not an NCAA sport.  That should be pretty simple to understand.  But the fact your trying (and failing) to hang your hat on equestrian makes me chuckle.

Nobody above claimed that equestrian was an NCAA-sanctioned sport.  If that is what you wanted to prove, you should have said that in your first post.  The idea it is not a "team sport" is false, however.  K-State provides 15 full scholarships to equestrian, and those scholarships apply toward fulfilling Title IX requirements.  The sport gets major funding from all 23 schools that participate in it.  At least K-State actually has some recent national champions.  ku seems to be relying on ancient history in that department.  A large chunk of your student body was not even born in 1988.

First it was "KSU hasn't won an NC in ANY sport." (Nevermind the 39 National Championships won by individual track & field athletes in K-State history including Scott Sellers this year as linked to above)

Then it was "KSU hasn't won an NC in any TEAM sport".  (Nevermind the equestrian team)

Both allegations by ku fans were proven wrong.  Usually it is their opinions that we have to prove wrong.  Now it is supposed statements of fact that have to be disproven.  Next thing you know these people will be telling the world that ku football has in fact done better than 3-5 at some point in Big 12 conference play.
Title: Re: Player numbers..could this possibly be true?
Post by: waks on August 27, 2007, 03:30:33 PM
And if it's not sponsored by the NCAA, then it is not an NCAA sport.  That should be pretty simple to understand.  But the fact your trying (and failing) to hang your hat on equestrian makes me chuckle.

Nobody above claimed that equestrian was an NCAA-sanctioned sport.  If that is what you wanted to prove, you should have said that in your first post.  The idea it is not a "team sport" is false, however.  K-State provides 15 full scholarships to equestrian, and those scholarships apply toward fulfilling Title IX requirements.  The sport gets major funding from all 23 schools that participate in it.  At least K-State actually has some recent national champions.  ku seems to be relying on ancient history in that department.  A large chunk of your student body was not even born in 1988.

First it was "KSU hasn't won an NC in ANY sport." (Nevermind the 39 National Championships won by individual track & field athletes in K-State history including Scott Sellers this year as linked to above)

Then it was "KSU hasn't won an NC in any TEAM sport".  (Nevermind the equestrian team)

Both allegations by ku fans were proven wrong.  Usually it is their opinions that we have to prove wrong.  Now it is supposed statements of fact that have to be disproven.  Next thing you know these people will be telling the world that ku football has in fact done better than 3-5 at some point in Big 12 conference play.

What he said.