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Title: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Huskerfan on July 28, 2007, 08:58:55 AM
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Snyder believes it's only a matter of time before Nebraska returns to the form that saw the Cornhuskers win national championships in 1994 and '95 and a share of the '97 title under legendary coach Tom Osborne.
Nebraska is in the fourth year of a drastic makeover by Bill Callahan and last year turned a corner by winning the North.

"Once you've gotten a program established, there may be some down days and some down years, but nevertheless you've got a history then the chances are pretty decent you will get back," Snyder said. "Nebraska will get back, that's a given."  

And who would have thought that Bill Snyder was a Husker fan? 

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/4992750.html (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/4992750.html)
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: catzacker on July 28, 2007, 09:31:58 AM
What was he going to say?  "I think Nebraska has a retard for a coach."
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: WorldWideBalla21 on July 28, 2007, 09:42:49 AM
Nub fan, why are you here?
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: CatsNShocks on July 28, 2007, 09:46:51 AM
We call that "coach speak" around here:
"We're gonna play them one game at a time, and God willing things will work out"
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Pett on July 28, 2007, 10:20:18 AM
Sorry, anyway you try to spin it Snyder has had no respect for NU since the Pelini incident.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: ksuno1stunner on July 28, 2007, 10:26:29 AM
Snyder also thinks Prince is on the right track too, FYI.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Huskerfan on July 28, 2007, 10:30:55 AM
Please feel free to post any quotes where Snyder says Prince is ready to lead K-State to dominance.

Or for that matter, where Snyder uses dominance (or similar terminology) and K-State in the same paragraph.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: The Whale on July 28, 2007, 10:59:59 AM
What was he going to say?  "I think Nebraska has a retard for a coach."
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Iceberg on July 28, 2007, 11:27:27 AM
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"Once you've gotten a program established, there may be some down days and some down years, but nevertheless you've got a history then the chances are pretty decent you will get back," Snyder said.


Snyder was sending a secret message. Here is was talking about how Prince will return K-State to its prominence in the late 90's.

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"Nebraska will get back, that's a given."

Here the journalist miss quoted Snyder. This was in reference to Nebraska getting back to logging time in Leavenworth. Obviously, it is a given that they will return. Just look a purify.


Snyder.... miss quoted and misunderstood by Husker fans everywhere...
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: willie83 on July 28, 2007, 11:30:15 AM
I think he was trying to say it's hard to f@#k up a team that badly when you have that kind of tradition, but given that tradition, they will be back despite Cally's attempts to keep them down.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: ksuno1stunner on July 28, 2007, 11:35:53 AM
Please feel free to post any quotes where Snyder says Prince is ready to lead K-State to dominance.

Or for that matter, where Snyder uses dominance (or similar terminology) and K-State in the same paragraph.

It's in newspapers, and has been said multiple times, I'll bring it up when they interview Snyder
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: The Manhatter on July 28, 2007, 12:54:59 PM
can somebody please point out to the Nubb that Snyder never used the word "dominance".

Thanks.

One more thing...I guess Nubbs no longer believe in Callahan after 6 and 5 loss seasons in his first three and no big game wins.  They now turn to the dishonest, hated, evil Bill Snyder for validation.

fun to watch.

thanks Neb/Creighton...chuckles abound.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Gimmered on July 28, 2007, 01:31:49 PM
Sorry, anyway you try to spin it Snyder has had no respect for NU since the Pelini incident.

Why wouldn't he? It was a big part of the reason Pelini wasn't given the job.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Gimmered on July 28, 2007, 01:34:30 PM
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Snyder believes it's only a matter of time before Nebraska returns to the form that saw the Cornhuskers win national championships in 1994 and '95 and a share of the '97 title under legendary coach Tom Osborne.
Nebraska is in the fourth year of a drastic makeover by Bill Callahan and last year turned a corner by winning the North.

"Once you've gotten a program established, there may be some down days and some down years, but nevertheless you've got a history then the chances are pretty decent you will get back," Snyder said. "Nebraska will get back, that's a given."  

And who would have thought that Bill Snyder was a Husker fan? 

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/4992750.html (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/4992750.html)

How in the hell can you read this and not see that he really was talking about K-State?  :D
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: mjrod on July 28, 2007, 01:42:55 PM
Snyder just didn't like Solich.   You guys owe Snyder for that one.

Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Gimmered on July 28, 2007, 01:46:41 PM
Snyder just didn't like Solich.   You guys owe Snyder for that one.



To be honest my respect for what he did grows every year.

Maybe Callahan can do the same for you guys with Prince. :D
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Maxell on July 28, 2007, 04:39:09 PM
One thing Bill Snyder isn't is a dummy. He understands full well what's going on here and that as much as other schools want to pretend that Nebraska is just another team, its just not the case. Nebraska is just smoking the rest of the North in recruiting right now and its not even fair. Callahan has yet to really get his own recruits fully integrated into his system yet he's 8-2 against the North the last two years and 5-0 last year. With the talent Nebraska is stockpiling, I can only say "good luck" to Colorado, Kansas State, Missouri, Kansas and Iowa State.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: vanro031 on July 28, 2007, 04:57:17 PM
Snyder just didn't like Solich.   You guys owe Snyder for that one.



Did Bill Snyder comment on how much money he received for playing Monty Burns in the Simpson's Movie?
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: vanro031 on July 28, 2007, 04:58:35 PM
Not as much as Ron Prince got for his portrayal of Grimace in the latest McDonald's commercial.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a9/Grimace.jpg/250px-Grimace.jpg)
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Pett on July 28, 2007, 05:01:27 PM
vanro, are your last two posts supposed to be funny?  :confused:
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: cyclist on July 28, 2007, 05:33:09 PM
vanro, are your last two posts supposed to be funny?  :confused:

Vanny is drunk on his a$$.  Again.

:blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: opcat on July 28, 2007, 05:37:03 PM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/boxscore.asp?Game=23423&Team=NEBRASKA

This aint happening again.

You guys are weaker.  We will be much stronger.

 :blank:
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 28, 2007, 05:38:19 PM
Damn. Didn't realize taylor only threw 22 times and we took him down 4 times.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: The Manhatter on July 28, 2007, 05:39:55 PM
One thing Bill Snyder isn't is a dummy. He understands full well what's going on here and that as much as other schools want to pretend that Nebraska is just another team, its just not the case. Nebraska is just smoking the rest of the North in recruiting right now and its not even fair. Callahan has yet to really get his own recruits fully integrated into his system yet he's 8-2 against the North the last two years and 5-0 last year. With the talent Nebraska is stockpiling, I can only say "good luck" to Colorado, Kansas State, Missouri, Kansas and Iowa State.

LOL about your recruiting.  I've said it before and I'll say it again...Tech scored 70 and a bad KSU offense scored 45 on a Nebraska defense that featured 5 draft picks from the first two rounds.  Nebraska is not recruiting any better talent that what Cosgrove had on hand to start.

But your warnings are recognized ( :jerkoff:) and also will be ignored.  In your name...RIP Big 12 North(-Nubb).  

I know I fear for KSU's well being vs. Nubb.   :sleep:
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Maxell on July 28, 2007, 05:57:05 PM
No matter what you say, the 70 point debacle wasn't all on the defense. 35 points came off turnovers and a short field. The offense with Dailey and Davis was horrible and the sole reason that game got out of hand. There were a bunch of players who didn't buy into the transition and were disgruntled. Fabian was both disgruntled and injured the entire year and apologized to Coach Callahan for his behavior after the season. Josh Bullocks also apologized for what he did that year. The OL on the 2004 team was crap. Herian busted his leg against Missouri. Richie Incognito was kicked off the team. Your notion that the 2004 team had as much talent as Nebraska is getting now is just ridiculous. There was talent in several spots on defense but it was largely negated by an inept offense and the other issues discussed above. Brandon Jackson was the first NU offensive player picked in the NFL draft since 2004. He was also the first Callahan recruit. How do you spin that? Facts are, you can't. Nebraska going forward will have a roster that is deeper with talent on defense, doesn't have any talent gaps at certain positions and has arguably as much talent as any other team in the country on offense.

Bury your head Hatter. No matter what, it won't hide the fact that Nebraska is stomping a mudhole in the North with recruiting right now. If you got a kid like DJ Woods to commit, you'd probably jizz all over yourself. And Jonas Gray and Kenny Demens will be on board next. Like I said, good luck. You'll need it.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: opcat on July 28, 2007, 06:18:23 PM
We will find out how good your recruiting is.

Prince has recruited good speed and athleticism NOT based on Rivals Experts (http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/cn/headshots/jeremycrabtree.gif)

Didn't help you against OK.ST last season.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: PowercatPosse on July 28, 2007, 08:08:08 PM
9 losses the past 2 years for the Fuskers

9 losses the previous 2 years before that (03 and 040

9 losses the previous 2 years before that (01 and 02)

Ya, the 94-95 days are just around the corner.....  :lol:
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 28, 2007, 08:15:06 PM
9 losses the past 2 years for the Fuskers

9 losses the previous 2 years before that (03 and 040

9 losses the previous 2 years before that (01 and 02)

Ya, the 94-95 days are just around the corner.....  :lol:

Nice.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: novembereleven on July 28, 2007, 08:45:33 PM
The early returns are in Opcat and it isn't pretty.  I'll be the first to admit that Schnellahan is out recruiting everyone else in the North on paper.  But other than making every Husker a "recruiting expert" and giving them something to live for, it has been a laugh riot watching the blue chips fizzle.  Here is a little something I put together for Tigerboard awhile back and it's very telling.  Though certainly subjective to a point, I found that Nubbs really didn't have much of a response.  Actually a few of them did their own analysis to point out someone I'd done wrong, but oddly enough they were worse than I to most the others.  Then there were a few who said "let them develop."  Funny they'd say that since they are experts on Ron Prince's recruits before they hit campus.  Fact is there have been ZERO impact JC's and NONE of the High School kids has been as good as Sker fans said they'd be at this point.

Enjoy!

The Great Red Farce! Nebraska Recruiting



Since Nebraska fans can talk about nothing but recruiting these days and genuinely get that ELITE pride that used to come with wins and titles, I thought it a nice time to evaluate production vs. the only thing that seems to matter to Husker fans…****STARS.****

2004 THE BLUE CHIPS:

Courtney Grixby- FOUR STARS
Grixby has been a two year starter in a average to below average NU secondary. He has also been named two time honorable mention which is one less nod than his career interception number of 3. Not a bad player, but worthy of his Rivals 100 spot (#75) and #5 ranked CB in the nation for 2004? HARDLY!
Updated Ranking- THREE STARS

Lydon Murtha- FOUR STARS
Best known for freaking out at a nudie bar on a Minnesota Gopher recruiting outing, this lineman was seen as Callahan’s first real recruiting coup! A member of the Army All Star game and Rivals 100 (#42), Murtha has been a spot starter since his arrival and would appear to be a back-up again this year. Hardly worthy of his lofty position on the Rivals 100 and his ranking as the #4 Offensive Tackle in the 2004 class.
UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS

Others of Not(e) for 2004:
Santino “Psycho” Panico- TWO STARS
A complete injustice at just two stars according to Tom Lemming, who decided to include Panico on his Army All Star game roster despite no interest from any school with a pulse…other than Nebraska. Panico was Nebraska’s starting punt returner as a true freshman and took the art of the fair catch to an all new level. He left the team after his single season.
UPDATED RANKING- NO STARS

Adams, Ganz & “Broadway” Beau- SIX STARS COMBINED
The three headed scholarship eaters at QB. Adams was completely underrated at his JC according to Husker fans, who stole him a year before anyone even knew the kid was available (again per Sker fans). “Broadway” Beau set the standard for QB’s transferring because they were “getting the shaft” (not starting due to a more talented person in front of them) at their previous school (Beau in high school, Keller at ASU years later). After his performance at Texas Tech (in the 70 point implosion game) Husker fans realized he just wasn’t very good. Ganz is a gamer, but Husker fans are praying he never sees a meaningful snap.
UPDATED RANKING- ONE STAR (for 2 of the 3 still showing up at the training table and gobbling up scholarships)

Brandon Jackson- THREE STARS
Possibly the quickest study in the history of the ACT test. This young man “miraculously” raised his ACT score by nearly double digits to qualify to play football for the Huskers. Thing is, he was a damn fine player. Would have been a heck of a lot better if Callahan used logic and production instead of politics to divvy up carries. Left a year early for the NFL draft.
UPDATED RANKING- FOUR STARS…but this doesn’t count because he wasn’t a true blue chip out of high school


2005 THE BLUE CHIPS:

Harrison “The Savior” “King of the Husker Illustrated Update” Beck- FOUR STARS
Possibly the greatest example of the Husker Recruiting farce. If your school even sent the guy a single letter, you could be certain your Rivals site would be served up an update via HI “writers” on a daily basis. Michigan fans bitched incessantly and KSU fans begged Brian Gates take the Cats off his offer list out of mercy. The topics of these updates covered such important matters such as what he got for Christmas (completely true) and how he gave Callahan permission to recruit Zac Taylor, despite promises he’d be the only QB in the class. I think anyone outside Nubb nation could see how this one would turn out and we were right. After a single season Beck and his family made complete asses of themselves and he left the program. Nebraska’s superstar QB of the future (Part I) was no more…and everyone laughed at them…and it was extremely enjoyable.
UPDATED RANKING- NO STARS (though I’d love to give him 5 stars for entertainment value)

Zack Bowman- FIVE STARS
I feel bad for this kid. Not just for the fact he has to deal with Bill Callahan, but because of injuries the past two years. But what I don’t understand is how Husker fans still think he’s the answer. He was healthy for a year and only started the final five games. He’s got the measurables, at least prior to injuries to both knees, but has not even come close to his #2 ranking as the best JC player in the nation in 2005.
UPDATED RANKING- THREE STARS (some of which is still based on potential, not production)

Chris Brooks- FOUR STARS
After redshirting as a Soph., this blue chip recruit still has time. But for a guy who was thought (by Nebraska fans) to be an immediate impact type receiver his zero catches for zero yards is not terribly impressive. The good news…the mother of his baby is getting a fine education due to his once lofty recruiting status.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS

Jordan Congdon- THREE STARS
The #1 kicker per Rivals in the 2005 class. This guy was MONEY……inside 30 yards. Anything outside 30 was a huge test of Callahan’s faith. Congdon went 5-7 last year with a long of 40 yards, but it was the kicks he didn’t make that made more news (see the Auburn game). Congdon transferred after last season’s consistent humiliation to USC.
UPDATED RANKING (under Callahan only)- TWO STARS

Ola Dagunduro- FOUR STARS
Started all 14 games last year as a Sr.. No post season honors.
UPDATED RANKING- THREE STARS

Phillip Dillard- FOUR STARS
Hard to evaluate what this kid will be. He was injured last year in the first game. What he wasn’t was a consistent starter or even major contributor as a true freshman as many Husker fans said he would be. I do think he’ll be a starter before he leaves and I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, but Reggie Smith was a much bigger whiff than Dillard was get.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKING- THREE STARS

Frantz Hardy- FOUR STARS
If only every week were ku week! In the 2006 ku game he had two long TD’s (only 3 on the year) and over half his yards for the season. For his first two years out of Juco he has averaged about 300 yards receiving and 2 TD’s per with the benefit of his JC teammate Zac Taylor throwing the ball. Don’t look for a breakout season this year with Keller at QB. Hardy was ranked as the #9 JC player in the nation when NU got him.
UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS

Leon Jackson- FOUR STARS
Rated as the #4 “Athlete” in the nation in 2005 and a member of the Rivals 100 (#47), Jackson is the epitome of NU opponents saying “I told you so.” He wavered in his recruitment when Callahan talked about his being a safety. So Callahan lied and said what he wanted to hear (“you’re in our plans at running back”) to get a signature. Everyone outside of Nebraska said they’d switch him to defense when he hit campus. Actually everyone said that in Nebraska too, but they did it in a muffled tone until signing day had ended. They did want to move him immediately, humored him a bit at RB to keep him only marginally unhappy and he finally left the team last year.
UPDATED RANKING- ZERO STARS

Marlon “the Next Adrian Peterson” Lucky- FIVE STARS
Here is a perfect example of Husker hype overshadowing performance. Is Lucky a good running back? Sure he is, though it should be noted Brandon Jackson was much better. Problem is this kid could walk on water and not live up to the hype in Huskerland. I saw countless comparisons to Adrian Peterson (more for impact than style) from Husker fans when they inked Lucky. I’m sure they’ll deny it now, but it was constant back in ’05. So let’s do a quick comparison between Lucky’s two season cumulative stats of 857 yards and 6 TD’s and Adrian Peterson’s first D1 games. It took Peterson exactly 6 games to eclipse Lucky’s two year rushing total and 7 games to top Marlon’s 6 TD’s. Really no comparison at all Husker fans…but then we told you so. Lucky was #13 on the Rivals 100 and the #2 running back in the nation out of high school.
UPDATED RANKING- 4 STARS (though 3.5 would be about right at this point)

Steve Octavian- FOUR STARS
Thus far he’s got about as many injuries as starts, but he’s penciled in to start this year at LB. A decent player for certain, but a true blue chip…not really.
UPDATED RANKING- 3 STARS

Rodney Picou- FOUR STARS
The #9 ranked guard in the nation in 2005, but for some reason he only had an offer from Utah and Nubb. How could this be? Qualifying for Division 1 play wasn’t really his forte. He’s not “N”…but thankfully they got credit for his lofty ranking and 4 stars, which is really what’s important to Husker fans these days anyway. Another fine example of WE TOLD YOU SO!
UPDATED RANKING- ZERO STARS

Zach Potter- FOUR STARS
Not a bad field goal blocker standing 6’7” and KSU fans can attest to this. But despite what NU fans will say publicly, they were very disappointed in his Spring performance, as he attempts to replace Carriker or Moore in the starting line-up. He’s not terribly athletic you see, especially compared to the guys that just graduated. Think Learch (from the Addams Family) like fluidity of motion. Look for fans to melt down consistently on the lack of pass rush this year from the defensive line and for Potter to do his part in keeping that an issue…until Callahan can get another 4-5 JC DE’s with bloated rankings into the mix.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKING- 2 STARS

Ndamukong Suh- FOUR STARS
HOLY CRAP! Did I find one that might actually live up to his billing? Not quite yet, but this kid could be pretty good. He better be good, as the depleted D-Line needs his impact badly. He played in all 14 games last year, collecting 19 tackles and 3.5 sacks. He was honored by The Sporting News with 1st Team All Big 12 Freshman honors.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKINGS- 4 STARS

Justin Tomerlin- FOUR STARS
I can remember my sources saying this about Justin Tomerlin. “I have no idea why he’s ranked so high, he can play Tight End or Defensive End, but neither very well.” Of course he was FOUR STARS, so Husker fans didn’t need anything else. Hell, Husker Illustrated had a huge picture gallery of his trip to Lincoln and they actually sent a photographer to his JUCO in Kansas to take some more pictures. Of course there was the plane trip the coaches took to Florida to get permission from his girlfriend to let him commit to the Big Red. Quite a soap opera…for a guy who never amounted to anything. Guess my source was right, but again the Husker fans got the stars they so desire.
UPDATED RANKING- ZERO STARS

Others of Not(e):

Craig Roark- THREE STARS (UPDATE 7-28-07...Roark transferred from Nubb this week!)
Though Husker fans fought HARD for a forth star and a spot on the Rivals 100, they were denied in the case of Craig Roark and rightfully so in retrospect. Never has a kid so loved the Husker Illustrated spotlight. They had his daily diary from the Army All American game (need a laugh?), his description of the thickness of the pork chops they fed the NU coaches on their in home visit and if you were a subscriber to the premium stuff a description of how they were giving his girlfriend a scholarship too. All those are very true and feel free to spend an evening reading these as a lovely companion piece to the Harrison Beck updates. You’ll find they came almost daily on the Rivals Network. Again, people who tried to forget about the fat kid from Ada, OK begged to get removed from his offer list so the update clutter would stop! As part of the “Husker star lobby” the Big Red fans analyzed photos of OU commit Jon Cooper to prove Roark was taller…for whatever reason. They bitched at Jeremy Crabtree and Bobby Burton constantly about this kid because Callahan’s buddy Tom Lemming said he was all world. Despite his being as tall (or taller) than Jon Cooper, he wasn’t and still isn’t nearly the player that Cooper is. Yeah, it’s a pretty absurd argument, but when recruiting has eclipsed on field success, you’re bound to do some pretty stupid things. Roark been moved to the defensive side of the ball and is now a reserve DT.
UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS


That’s it folks, the entire 4 and 5 star collection from Callahan’s first two classes. Can the guy not coach or is it the ego that gets in the way? Probably a combo of those and the fact Husker fans and their site lobby constantly for better rankings…so they’ll feel like they matter again. For a guy who says he doesn't need any prima donnas on the Husker team, he seems to land them with great frequency.

I’ll stop there and let Big Red fans lick their wounds (and call me horrible names). Besides it’s unfair to judge the failure of the newer recruits until they fail. See you next year for that long report.

HAPPY RECRUITING HUSKERS!!!!   :loly:
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: FBWillie on July 29, 2007, 11:48:11 AM
If you got a kid like DJ Woods to commit, you'd probably jizz all over yourself.

You're prob. right.... we would jizz all over ourselfs.  because we have a coach that can win 7 games in his first year with a few future Draft picks.   No one is disputing your recruiting.  We're LOL'ng at how horrible your coaching staff is.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: vanro031 on July 29, 2007, 11:57:18 AM
The early returns are in Opcat and it isn't pretty.  I'll be the first to admit that Schnellahan is out recruiting everyone else in the North on paper.  But other than making every Husker a "recruiting expert" and giving them something to live for, it has been a laugh riot watching the blue chips fizzle.  Here is a little something I put together for Tigerboard awhile back and it's very telling.  Though certainly subjective to a point, I found that Nubbs really didn't have much of a response.  Actually a few of them did their own analysis to point out someone I'd done wrong, but oddly enough they were worse than I to most the others.  Then there were a few who said "let them develop."  Funny they'd say that since they are experts on Ron Prince's recruits before they hit campus.  Fact is there have been ZERO impact JC's and NONE of the High School kids has been as good as Sker fans said they'd be at this point.

Enjoy!

The Great Red Farce! Nebraska Recruiting



Since Nebraska fans can talk about nothing but recruiting these days and genuinely get that ELITE pride that used to come with wins and titles, I thought it a nice time to evaluate production vs. the only thing that seems to matter to Husker fans…****STARS.****

2004 THE BLUE CHIPS:

Courtney Grixby- FOUR STARS
Grixby has been a two year starter in a average to below average NU secondary. He has also been named two time honorable mention which is one less nod than his career interception number of 3. Not a bad player, but worthy of his Rivals 100 spot (#75) and #5 ranked CB in the nation for 2004? HARDLY!
Updated Ranking- THREE STARS

Lydon Murtha- FOUR STARS
Best known for freaking out at a nudie bar on a Minnesota Gopher recruiting outing, this lineman was seen as Callahan’s first real recruiting coup! A member of the Army All Star game and Rivals 100 (#42), Murtha has been a spot starter since his arrival and would appear to be a back-up again this year. Hardly worthy of his lofty position on the Rivals 100 and his ranking as the #4 Offensive Tackle in the 2004 class.
UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS

Others of Not(e) for 2004:
Santino “Psycho” Panico- TWO STARS
A complete injustice at just two stars according to Tom Lemming, who decided to include Panico on his Army All Star game roster despite no interest from any school with a pulse…other than Nebraska. Panico was Nebraska’s starting punt returner as a true freshman and took the art of the fair catch to an all new level. He left the team after his single season.
UPDATED RANKING- NO STARS

Adams, Ganz & “Broadway” Beau- SIX STARS COMBINED
The three headed scholarship eaters at QB. Adams was completely underrated at his JC according to Husker fans, who stole him a year before anyone even knew the kid was available (again per Sker fans). “Broadway” Beau set the standard for QB’s transferring because they were “getting the shaft” (not starting due to a more talented person in front of them) at their previous school (Beau in high school, Keller at ASU years later). After his performance at Texas Tech (in the 70 point implosion game) Husker fans realized he just wasn’t very good. Ganz is a gamer, but Husker fans are praying he never sees a meaningful snap.
UPDATED RANKING- ONE STAR (for 2 of the 3 still showing up at the training table and gobbling up scholarships)

Brandon Jackson- THREE STARS
Possibly the quickest study in the history of the ACT test. This young man “miraculously” raised his ACT score by nearly double digits to qualify to play football for the Huskers. Thing is, he was a damn fine player. Would have been a heck of a lot better if Callahan used logic and production instead of politics to divvy up carries. Left a year early for the NFL draft.
UPDATED RANKING- FOUR STARS…but this doesn’t count because he wasn’t a true blue chip out of high school


2005 THE BLUE CHIPS:

Harrison “The Savior” “King of the Husker Illustrated Update” Beck- FOUR STARS
Possibly the greatest example of the Husker Recruiting farce. If your school even sent the guy a single letter, you could be certain your Rivals site would be served up an update via HI “writers” on a daily basis. Michigan fans bitched incessantly and KSU fans begged Brian Gates take the Cats off his offer list out of mercy. The topics of these updates covered such important matters such as what he got for Christmas (completely true) and how he gave Callahan permission to recruit Zac Taylor, despite promises he’d be the only QB in the class. I think anyone outside Nubb nation could see how this one would turn out and we were right. After a single season Beck and his family made complete asses of themselves and he left the program. Nebraska’s superstar QB of the future (Part I) was no more…and everyone laughed at them…and it was extremely enjoyable.
UPDATED RANKING- NO STARS (though I’d love to give him 5 stars for entertainment value)

Zack Bowman- FIVE STARS
I feel bad for this kid. Not just for the fact he has to deal with Bill Callahan, but because of injuries the past two years. But what I don’t understand is how Husker fans still think he’s the answer. He was healthy for a year and only started the final five games. He’s got the measurables, at least prior to injuries to both knees, but has not even come close to his #2 ranking as the best JC player in the nation in 2005.
UPDATED RANKING- THREE STARS (some of which is still based on potential, not production)

Chris Brooks- FOUR STARS
After redshirting as a Soph., this blue chip recruit still has time. But for a guy who was thought (by Nebraska fans) to be an immediate impact type receiver his zero catches for zero yards is not terribly impressive. The good news…the mother of his baby is getting a fine education due to his once lofty recruiting status.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS

Jordan Congdon- THREE STARS
The #1 kicker per Rivals in the 2005 class. This guy was MONEY……inside 30 yards. Anything outside 30 was a huge test of Callahan’s faith. Congdon went 5-7 last year with a long of 40 yards, but it was the kicks he didn’t make that made more news (see the Auburn game). Congdon transferred after last season’s consistent humiliation to USC.
UPDATED RANKING (under Callahan only)- TWO STARS

Ola Dagunduro- FOUR STARS
Started all 14 games last year as a Sr.. No post season honors.
UPDATED RANKING- THREE STARS

Phillip Dillard- FOUR STARS
Hard to evaluate what this kid will be. He was injured last year in the first game. What he wasn’t was a consistent starter or even major contributor as a true freshman as many Husker fans said he would be. I do think he’ll be a starter before he leaves and I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, but Reggie Smith was a much bigger whiff than Dillard was get.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKING- THREE STARS

Frantz Hardy- FOUR STARS
If only every week were ku week! In the 2006 ku game he had two long TD’s (only 3 on the year) and over half his yards for the season. For his first two years out of Juco he has averaged about 300 yards receiving and 2 TD’s per with the benefit of his JC teammate Zac Taylor throwing the ball. Don’t look for a breakout season this year with Keller at QB. Hardy was ranked as the #9 JC player in the nation when NU got him.
UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS

Leon Jackson- FOUR STARS
Rated as the #4 “Athlete” in the nation in 2005 and a member of the Rivals 100 (#47), Jackson is the epitome of NU opponents saying “I told you so.” He wavered in his recruitment when Callahan talked about his being a safety. So Callahan lied and said what he wanted to hear (“you’re in our plans at running back”) to get a signature. Everyone outside of Nebraska said they’d switch him to defense when he hit campus. Actually everyone said that in Nebraska too, but they did it in a muffled tone until signing day had ended. They did want to move him immediately, humored him a bit at RB to keep him only marginally unhappy and he finally left the team last year.
UPDATED RANKING- ZERO STARS

Marlon “the Next Adrian Peterson” Lucky- FIVE STARS
Here is a perfect example of Husker hype overshadowing performance. Is Lucky a good running back? Sure he is, though it should be noted Brandon Jackson was much better. Problem is this kid could walk on water and not live up to the hype in Huskerland. I saw countless comparisons to Adrian Peterson (more for impact than style) from Husker fans when they inked Lucky. I’m sure they’ll deny it now, but it was constant back in ’05. So let’s do a quick comparison between Lucky’s two season cumulative stats of 857 yards and 6 TD’s and Adrian Peterson’s first D1 games. It took Peterson exactly 6 games to eclipse Lucky’s two year rushing total and 7 games to top Marlon’s 6 TD’s. Really no comparison at all Husker fans…but then we told you so. Lucky was #13 on the Rivals 100 and the #2 running back in the nation out of high school.
UPDATED RANKING- 4 STARS (though 3.5 would be about right at this point)

Steve Octavian- FOUR STARS
Thus far he’s got about as many injuries as starts, but he’s penciled in to start this year at LB. A decent player for certain, but a true blue chip…not really.
UPDATED RANKING- 3 STARS

Rodney Picou- FOUR STARS
The #9 ranked guard in the nation in 2005, but for some reason he only had an offer from Utah and Nubb. How could this be? Qualifying for Division 1 play wasn’t really his forte. He’s not “N”…but thankfully they got credit for his lofty ranking and 4 stars, which is really what’s important to Husker fans these days anyway. Another fine example of WE TOLD YOU SO!
UPDATED RANKING- ZERO STARS

Zach Potter- FOUR STARS
Not a bad field goal blocker standing 6’7” and KSU fans can attest to this. But despite what NU fans will say publicly, they were very disappointed in his Spring performance, as he attempts to replace Carriker or Moore in the starting line-up. He’s not terribly athletic you see, especially compared to the guys that just graduated. Think Learch (from the Addams Family) like fluidity of motion. Look for fans to melt down consistently on the lack of pass rush this year from the defensive line and for Potter to do his part in keeping that an issue…until Callahan can get another 4-5 JC DE’s with bloated rankings into the mix.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKING- 2 STARS

Ndamukong Suh- FOUR STARS
HOLY CRAP! Did I find one that might actually live up to his billing? Not quite yet, but this kid could be pretty good. He better be good, as the depleted D-Line needs his impact badly. He played in all 14 games last year, collecting 19 tackles and 3.5 sacks. He was honored by The Sporting News with 1st Team All Big 12 Freshman honors.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKINGS- 4 STARS

Justin Tomerlin- FOUR STARS
I can remember my sources saying this about Justin Tomerlin. “I have no idea why he’s ranked so high, he can play Tight End or Defensive End, but neither very well.” Of course he was FOUR STARS, so Husker fans didn’t need anything else. Hell, Husker Illustrated had a huge picture gallery of his trip to Lincoln and they actually sent a photographer to his JUCO in Kansas to take some more pictures. Of course there was the plane trip the coaches took to Florida to get permission from his girlfriend to let him commit to the Big Red. Quite a soap opera…for a guy who never amounted to anything. Guess my source was right, but again the Husker fans got the stars they so desire.
UPDATED RANKING- ZERO STARS

Others of Not(e):

Craig Roark- THREE STARS (UPDATE 7-28-07...Roark transferred from Nubb this week!)
Though Husker fans fought HARD for a forth star and a spot on the Rivals 100, they were denied in the case of Craig Roark and rightfully so in retrospect. Never has a kid so loved the Husker Illustrated spotlight. They had his daily diary from the Army All American game (need a laugh?), his description of the thickness of the pork chops they fed the NU coaches on their in home visit and if you were a subscriber to the premium stuff a description of how they were giving his girlfriend a scholarship too. All those are very true and feel free to spend an evening reading these as a lovely companion piece to the Harrison Beck updates. You’ll find they came almost daily on the Rivals Network. Again, people who tried to forget about the fat kid from Ada, OK begged to get removed from his offer list so the update clutter would stop! As part of the “Husker star lobby” the Big Red fans analyzed photos of OU commit Jon Cooper to prove Roark was taller…for whatever reason. They bitched at Jeremy Crabtree and Bobby Burton constantly about this kid because Callahan’s buddy Tom Lemming said he was all world. Despite his being as tall (or taller) than Jon Cooper, he wasn’t and still isn’t nearly the player that Cooper is. Yeah, it’s a pretty absurd argument, but when recruiting has eclipsed on field success, you’re bound to do some pretty stupid things. Roark been moved to the defensive side of the ball and is now a reserve DT.
UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS


That’s it folks, the entire 4 and 5 star collection from Callahan’s first two classes. Can the guy not coach or is it the ego that gets in the way? Probably a combo of those and the fact Husker fans and their site lobby constantly for better rankings…so they’ll feel like they matter again. For a guy who says he doesn't need any prima donnas on the Husker team, he seems to land them with great frequency.

I’ll stop there and let Big Red fans lick their wounds (and call me horrible names). Besides it’s unfair to judge the failure of the newer recruits until they fail. See you next year for that long report.

HAPPY RECRUITING HUSKERS!!!!   :loly:

Hey novembereleven, nice research. You should start posting on some of the dark side boards! You need a ID on a Husker Board?
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: ksuno1stunner on July 29, 2007, 11:59:41 AM
The early returns are in Opcat and it isn't pretty.  I'll be the first to admit that Schnellahan is out recruiting everyone else in the North on paper.  But other than making every Husker a "recruiting expert" and giving them something to live for, it has been a laugh riot watching the blue chips fizzle.  Here is a little something I put together for Tigerboard awhile back and it's very telling.  Though certainly subjective to a point, I found that Nubbs really didn't have much of a response.  Actually a few of them did their own analysis to point out someone I'd done wrong, but oddly enough they were worse than I to most the others.  Then there were a few who said "let them develop."  Funny they'd say that since they are experts on Ron Prince's recruits before they hit campus.  Fact is there have been ZERO impact JC's and NONE of the High School kids has been as good as Sker fans said they'd be at this point.

Enjoy!

The Great Red Farce! Nebraska Recruiting



Since Nebraska fans can talk about nothing but recruiting these days and genuinely get that ELITE pride that used to come with wins and titles, I thought it a nice time to evaluate production vs. the only thing that seems to matter to Husker fans…****STARS.****

2004 THE BLUE CHIPS:

Courtney Grixby- FOUR STARS
Grixby has been a two year starter in a average to below average NU secondary. He has also been named two time honorable mention which is one less nod than his career interception number of 3. Not a bad player, but worthy of his Rivals 100 spot (#75) and #5 ranked CB in the nation for 2004? HARDLY!
Updated Ranking- THREE STARS

Lydon Murtha- FOUR STARS
Best known for freaking out at a nudie bar on a Minnesota Gopher recruiting outing, this lineman was seen as Callahan’s first real recruiting coup! A member of the Army All Star game and Rivals 100 (#42), Murtha has been a spot starter since his arrival and would appear to be a back-up again this year. Hardly worthy of his lofty position on the Rivals 100 and his ranking as the #4 Offensive Tackle in the 2004 class.
UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS

Others of Not(e) for 2004:
Santino “Psycho” Panico- TWO STARS
A complete injustice at just two stars according to Tom Lemming, who decided to include Panico on his Army All Star game roster despite no interest from any school with a pulse…other than Nebraska. Panico was Nebraska’s starting punt returner as a true freshman and took the art of the fair catch to an all new level. He left the team after his single season.
UPDATED RANKING- NO STARS

Adams, Ganz & “Broadway” Beau- SIX STARS COMBINED
The three headed scholarship eaters at QB. Adams was completely underrated at his JC according to Husker fans, who stole him a year before anyone even knew the kid was available (again per Sker fans). “Broadway” Beau set the standard for QB’s transferring because they were “getting the shaft” (not starting due to a more talented person in front of them) at their previous school (Beau in high school, Keller at ASU years later). After his performance at Texas Tech (in the 70 point implosion game) Husker fans realized he just wasn’t very good. Ganz is a gamer, but Husker fans are praying he never sees a meaningful snap.
UPDATED RANKING- ONE STAR (for 2 of the 3 still showing up at the training table and gobbling up scholarships)

Brandon Jackson- THREE STARS
Possibly the quickest study in the history of the ACT test. This young man “miraculously” raised his ACT score by nearly double digits to qualify to play football for the Huskers. Thing is, he was a damn fine player. Would have been a heck of a lot better if Callahan used logic and production instead of politics to divvy up carries. Left a year early for the NFL draft.
UPDATED RANKING- FOUR STARS…but this doesn’t count because he wasn’t a true blue chip out of high school


2005 THE BLUE CHIPS:

Harrison “The Savior” “King of the Husker Illustrated Update” Beck- FOUR STARS
Possibly the greatest example of the Husker Recruiting farce. If your school even sent the guy a single letter, you could be certain your Rivals site would be served up an update via HI “writers” on a daily basis. Michigan fans bitched incessantly and KSU fans begged Brian Gates take the Cats off his offer list out of mercy. The topics of these updates covered such important matters such as what he got for Christmas (completely true) and how he gave Callahan permission to recruit Zac Taylor, despite promises he’d be the only QB in the class. I think anyone outside Nubb nation could see how this one would turn out and we were right. After a single season Beck and his family made complete asses of themselves and he left the program. Nebraska’s superstar QB of the future (Part I) was no more…and everyone laughed at them…and it was extremely enjoyable.
UPDATED RANKING- NO STARS (though I’d love to give him 5 stars for entertainment value)

Zack Bowman- FIVE STARS
I feel bad for this kid. Not just for the fact he has to deal with Bill Callahan, but because of injuries the past two years. But what I don’t understand is how Husker fans still think he’s the answer. He was healthy for a year and only started the final five games. He’s got the measurables, at least prior to injuries to both knees, but has not even come close to his #2 ranking as the best JC player in the nation in 2005.
UPDATED RANKING- THREE STARS (some of which is still based on potential, not production)

Chris Brooks- FOUR STARS
After redshirting as a Soph., this blue chip recruit still has time. But for a guy who was thought (by Nebraska fans) to be an immediate impact type receiver his zero catches for zero yards is not terribly impressive. The good news…the mother of his baby is getting a fine education due to his once lofty recruiting status.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS

Jordan Congdon- THREE STARS
The #1 kicker per Rivals in the 2005 class. This guy was MONEY……inside 30 yards. Anything outside 30 was a huge test of Callahan’s faith. Congdon went 5-7 last year with a long of 40 yards, but it was the kicks he didn’t make that made more news (see the Auburn game). Congdon transferred after last season’s consistent humiliation to USC.
UPDATED RANKING (under Callahan only)- TWO STARS

Ola Dagunduro- FOUR STARS
Started all 14 games last year as a Sr.. No post season honors.
UPDATED RANKING- THREE STARS

Phillip Dillard- FOUR STARS
Hard to evaluate what this kid will be. He was injured last year in the first game. What he wasn’t was a consistent starter or even major contributor as a true freshman as many Husker fans said he would be. I do think he’ll be a starter before he leaves and I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, but Reggie Smith was a much bigger whiff than Dillard was get.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKING- THREE STARS

Frantz Hardy- FOUR STARS
If only every week were ku week! In the 2006 ku game he had two long TD’s (only 3 on the year) and over half his yards for the season. For his first two years out of Juco he has averaged about 300 yards receiving and 2 TD’s per with the benefit of his JC teammate Zac Taylor throwing the ball. Don’t look for a breakout season this year with Keller at QB. Hardy was ranked as the #9 JC player in the nation when NU got him.
UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS

Leon Jackson- FOUR STARS
Rated as the #4 “Athlete” in the nation in 2005 and a member of the Rivals 100 (#47), Jackson is the epitome of NU opponents saying “I told you so.” He wavered in his recruitment when Callahan talked about his being a safety. So Callahan lied and said what he wanted to hear (“you’re in our plans at running back”) to get a signature. Everyone outside of Nebraska said they’d switch him to defense when he hit campus. Actually everyone said that in Nebraska too, but they did it in a muffled tone until signing day had ended. They did want to move him immediately, humored him a bit at RB to keep him only marginally unhappy and he finally left the team last year.
UPDATED RANKING- ZERO STARS

Marlon “the Next Adrian Peterson” Lucky- FIVE STARS
Here is a perfect example of Husker hype overshadowing performance. Is Lucky a good running back? Sure he is, though it should be noted Brandon Jackson was much better. Problem is this kid could walk on water and not live up to the hype in Huskerland. I saw countless comparisons to Adrian Peterson (more for impact than style) from Husker fans when they inked Lucky. I’m sure they’ll deny it now, but it was constant back in ’05. So let’s do a quick comparison between Lucky’s two season cumulative stats of 857 yards and 6 TD’s and Adrian Peterson’s first D1 games. It took Peterson exactly 6 games to eclipse Lucky’s two year rushing total and 7 games to top Marlon’s 6 TD’s. Really no comparison at all Husker fans…but then we told you so. Lucky was #13 on the Rivals 100 and the #2 running back in the nation out of high school.
UPDATED RANKING- 4 STARS (though 3.5 would be about right at this point)

Steve Octavian- FOUR STARS
Thus far he’s got about as many injuries as starts, but he’s penciled in to start this year at LB. A decent player for certain, but a true blue chip…not really.
UPDATED RANKING- 3 STARS

Rodney Picou- FOUR STARS
The #9 ranked guard in the nation in 2005, but for some reason he only had an offer from Utah and Nubb. How could this be? Qualifying for Division 1 play wasn’t really his forte. He’s not “N”…but thankfully they got credit for his lofty ranking and 4 stars, which is really what’s important to Husker fans these days anyway. Another fine example of WE TOLD YOU SO!
UPDATED RANKING- ZERO STARS

Zach Potter- FOUR STARS
Not a bad field goal blocker standing 6’7” and KSU fans can attest to this. But despite what NU fans will say publicly, they were very disappointed in his Spring performance, as he attempts to replace Carriker or Moore in the starting line-up. He’s not terribly athletic you see, especially compared to the guys that just graduated. Think Learch (from the Addams Family) like fluidity of motion. Look for fans to melt down consistently on the lack of pass rush this year from the defensive line and for Potter to do his part in keeping that an issue…until Callahan can get another 4-5 JC DE’s with bloated rankings into the mix.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKING- 2 STARS

Ndamukong Suh- FOUR STARS
HOLY CRAP! Did I find one that might actually live up to his billing? Not quite yet, but this kid could be pretty good. He better be good, as the depleted D-Line needs his impact badly. He played in all 14 games last year, collecting 19 tackles and 3.5 sacks. He was honored by The Sporting News with 1st Team All Big 12 Freshman honors.
TENATIVE UPDATED RANKINGS- 4 STARS

Justin Tomerlin- FOUR STARS
I can remember my sources saying this about Justin Tomerlin. “I have no idea why he’s ranked so high, he can play Tight End or Defensive End, but neither very well.” Of course he was FOUR STARS, so Husker fans didn’t need anything else. Hell, Husker Illustrated had a huge picture gallery of his trip to Lincoln and they actually sent a photographer to his JUCO in Kansas to take some more pictures. Of course there was the plane trip the coaches took to Florida to get permission from his girlfriend to let him commit to the Big Red. Quite a soap opera…for a guy who never amounted to anything. Guess my source was right, but again the Husker fans got the stars they so desire.
UPDATED RANKING- ZERO STARS

Others of Not(e):

Craig Roark- THREE STARS (UPDATE 7-28-07...Roark transferred from Nubb this week!)
Though Husker fans fought HARD for a forth star and a spot on the Rivals 100, they were denied in the case of Craig Roark and rightfully so in retrospect. Never has a kid so loved the Husker Illustrated spotlight. They had his daily diary from the Army All American game (need a laugh?), his description of the thickness of the pork chops they fed the NU coaches on their in home visit and if you were a subscriber to the premium stuff a description of how they were giving his girlfriend a scholarship too. All those are very true and feel free to spend an evening reading these as a lovely companion piece to the Harrison Beck updates. You’ll find they came almost daily on the Rivals Network. Again, people who tried to forget about the fat kid from Ada, OK begged to get removed from his offer list so the update clutter would stop! As part of the “Husker star lobby” the Big Red fans analyzed photos of OU commit Jon Cooper to prove Roark was taller…for whatever reason. They bitched at Jeremy Crabtree and Bobby Burton constantly about this kid because Callahan’s buddy Tom Lemming said he was all world. Despite his being as tall (or taller) than Jon Cooper, he wasn’t and still isn’t nearly the player that Cooper is. Yeah, it’s a pretty absurd argument, but when recruiting has eclipsed on field success, you’re bound to do some pretty stupid things. Roark been moved to the defensive side of the ball and is now a reserve DT.
UPDATED RANKING- TWO STARS


That’s it folks, the entire 4 and 5 star collection from Callahan’s first two classes. Can the guy not coach or is it the ego that gets in the way? Probably a combo of those and the fact Husker fans and their site lobby constantly for better rankings…so they’ll feel like they matter again. For a guy who says he doesn't need any prima donnas on the Husker team, he seems to land them with great frequency.

I’ll stop there and let Big Red fans lick their wounds (and call me horrible names). Besides it’s unfair to judge the failure of the newer recruits until they fail. See you next year for that long report.

HAPPY RECRUITING HUSKERS!!!!   :loly:

 :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: vanro031 on July 29, 2007, 12:09:05 PM
11/11 is actually Crabtree!!! :-X
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Maxell on July 29, 2007, 12:10:37 PM
The nice thing about recruiting elite players year in and year out is that if someone doesn't work out (which inevitably happens), you can replace him with another great player that does. That's the difference between Nebraska and KSwho. When Harrison Beck doesn't work out, we replace him with Sam Keller. When Kaleb Drinkgern doesn't work out at Kansas State you replace him with Jim Bob Hayseed from Hanover.

Maybe when you start recruiting elite RBs like Nebraska does (see our soon to be commit Jonas Gray below), you might be able to come and talk a little trash. As it stands now, you're not even on the same planet in terms of talent. Have fun with Jeremy Reed and Dee Bell  :lol:

(http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/07/27/grayx.jpg)

Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 29, 2007, 12:12:44 PM
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The nice thing about recruiting elite players year in and year out is that if someone doesn't work out (which inevitably happens), you can replace him with another great player that does. That's the difference between Nebraska and KSwho. When Harrison Beck doesn't work out, we replace him with Sam Keller. When Kaleb Drinkgern doesn't work out at Kansas State you replace him with Jim Bob Hayseed from Hanover.

Maybe when you start recruiting elite RBs like Nebraska does (see our soon to be commit Jonas Gray below), you might be able to come and talk a little trash. As it stands now, you're not even on the same planet in terms of talent. Have fun with Jeremy Reed and Dee Bell

I HATE YOU GUYS. YOU ARE MEAN 24/7 AND DON'T THINK HOW WE (KSU FANS) FEEL WHEN WE READ YOUR STUFF!
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: vanro031 on July 29, 2007, 12:20:19 PM
we love you little Fatty man. You have some good posters over here in Man(70-10)hatter and 11(crabtree)11.  ;)
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: bigdeal on July 29, 2007, 03:50:21 PM
The nice thing about recruiting elite players year in and year out is that if someone doesn't work out (which inevitably happens), you can replace him with another great player that does. That's the difference between Nebraska and KSwho. When Harrison Beck doesn't work out, we replace him with Sam Keller. When Kaleb Drinkgern doesn't work out at Kansas State you replace him with Jim Bob Hayseed from Hanover.

Maybe when you start recruiting elite RBs like Nebraska does (see our soon to be commit Jonas Gray below), you might be able to come and talk a little trash. As it stands now, you're not even on the same planet in terms of talent. Have fun with Jeremy Reed and Dee Bell  :lol:

(http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/07/27/grayx.jpg)



Holy Snickees...did Hayseed commit?   or is he just a "soon to be commit" like Gray?  I have to admit Gray looks impressive...like Thomas Clayton.  I guess, when he gets around to committing (must be busy) he'll probably tear up the Cats like Clayton did NU last year. 
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: waks on July 29, 2007, 06:53:30 PM
The nice thing about recruiting elite players year in and year out is that if someone doesn't work out (which inevitably happens), you can replace him with another great player that does. That's the difference between Nebraska and KSwho. When Harrison Beck doesn't work out, we replace him with Sam Keller. When Kaleb Drinkgern doesn't work out at Kansas State you replace him with Jim Bob Hayseed from Hanover.

Maybe when you start recruiting elite RBs like Nebraska does (see our soon to be commit Jonas Gray below), you might be able to come and talk a little trash. As it stands now, you're not even on the same planet in terms of talent. Have fun with Jeremy Reed and Dee Bell  :lol:

(http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos/2007/07/27/grayx.jpg)



Holy Snickees...did Hayseed commit?   or is he just a "soon to be commit" like Gray?  I have to admit Gray looks impressive...like Thomas Clayton.  I guess, when he gets around to committing (must be busy) he'll probably tear up the Cats like Clayton did NU last year. 
Hayseed is a 3 star, right?
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Huskerfan on July 29, 2007, 08:20:43 PM
We're 2-0 against you the last two years. We have a better team, facilities, recruits, coaches, and overall program. Even if you show marginal improvements from year to year, which is doubtful w2ith classes of one and two star recruits, we'll continue to outpace you.

We'll slap you down  this year in Lincoln. Then we'll come down to Manhattan in 2008 and knock you down again. With upperclassmen in the program now, who were recruited by Callahan, to play in this system, and who've had years to learn the offense, we continue to get better. With classes of four and five star recruits, we continue to improve the talent level on the field.

So diss on Callahan as much as you want. He's going to be your nemesis for years to come, and a big part of the reason that K-Light is an also-ran in the Big 12. Of course the other reason will be the inability of your coaches to get any talented prospects to come to Manhattan.

Nebraska will continue to dominate the Big 12. It's obvious to everyone but the homosexual purple clad KoolAid drinkers.
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: waks on July 29, 2007, 08:24:20 PM
We're 2-0 against you the last two years. We have a better team, facilities, recruits, coaches, and overall program. Even if you show marginal improvements from year to year, which is doubtful w2ith classes of one and two star recruits, we'll continue to outpace you.

We'll slap you down  this year in Lincoln. Then we'll come down to Manhattan in 2008 and knock you down again. With upperclassmen in the program now, who were recruited by Callahan, to play in this system, and who've had years to learn the offense, we continue to get better. With classes of four and five star recruits, we continue to improve the talent level on the field.

So diss on Callahan as much as you want. He's going to be your nemesis for years to come, and a big part of the reason that K-Light is an also-ran in the Big 12. Of course the other reason will be the inability of your coaches to get any talented prospects to come to Manhattan.

Nebraska will continue to dominate the Big 12. It's obvious to everyone but the homosexual purple clad KoolAid drinkers.
I wasn't aware of Nebraska dominating the Big XII. Tell me again, when was your last Big XII title?
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: PowercatPosse on July 30, 2007, 07:30:55 PM
Counting the Big 12 title game, Fuskerbilly nation is 21-21 in their last 42 conf. games  :notworthy:

yep, the domination of the Big 12 will continue.  :ohno:
Title: Re: Bill Snyder: HUSKERS on their way back to DOMINANCE!
Post by: Huskerfan on July 30, 2007, 07:59:40 PM
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I wasn't aware of Nebraska dominating the Big XII.

We'll repeat as Big 12 North Champs this year, and beat Texas in the Big 12 Championship game. We're BCS bound this year. Even Bill Snyder can see the writing on the wall.  ;)
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Post by: waks on July 30, 2007, 08:17:44 PM
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I wasn't aware of Nebraska dominating the Big XII.

We'll repeat as Big 12 North Champs this year, and beat Texas in the Big 12 Championship game. We're BCS bound this year. Even Bill Snyder can see the writing on the wall.  ;)
LOL @ not even being predicted to win the North this year let alone the Big XII.
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Post by: Huskerfan on July 30, 2007, 09:32:54 PM
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LOL @ not even being predicted to win the North this year let alone the Big XII.

You guys are projected someplace between 3rd and 5th. And anyone who thinks Misery will take down Nebraska needs to lay off their crack habit.

Nebraska continues to improve, and will have a better team this year than last...continuing the improvement seen since Callahan took over. The only unit that will be weaker is the D-Line, which may suffer early from lack of experience, but may actually be more talented than the same unit last year. Everywhere else we have upgrades.

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Post by: waks on July 30, 2007, 09:39:34 PM
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LOL @ not even being predicted to win the North this year let alone the Big XII.

You guys are projected someplace between 3rd and 5th. And anyone who thinks Misery will take down Nebraska needs to lay off their crack habit.

Nebraska continues to improve, and will have a better team this year than last...continuing the improvement seen since Callahan took over. The only unit that will be weaker is the D-Line, which may suffer early from lack of experience, but may actually be more talented than the same unit last year. Everywhere else we have upgrades.


So Keller, a guy that hasn't played in a game for two years, is supposed to be better than the Big XII offensive MVP, Taylor? Right. LOL @ you and your delusional ideas.
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Post by: opcat on July 30, 2007, 09:55:36 PM
Wow. NOvembereleven!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 8)
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Post by: THRICE on July 30, 2007, 10:02:49 PM
Wow, these Huskers threads get out of control fast. There are alot of question marks for NU. One being the QB, obviously. And the other the D line, again obviously. But I don't understand the logic in saying that this years D line will be more talented then last years. That's a very ballsy statement, especially after stating they are going to be weaker. I have been sipping a bit of Husker koolaid lately, but damn. I suppose I am drinking from the wrong cooler.

Dear diary,

I can't wait for September!
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Post by: waks on July 30, 2007, 10:40:18 PM
Wow, these Huskers threads get out of control fast. There are alot of question marks for NU. One being the QB, obviously. And the other the D line, again obviously. But I don't understand the logic in saying that this years D line will be more talented then last years. That's a very ballsy statement, especially after stating they are going to be weaker. I have been sipping a bit of Husker koolaid lately, but damn. I suppose I am drinking from the wrong cooler.

Dear diary,

I can't wait for September!
Their secondary is definitely suspect. They also will be worse in the running game.
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Post by: PowercatPosse on July 30, 2007, 10:46:43 PM
K-State was projected 3rd by almost every single magazine or write up that i saw.   However, KState fans are not saying we have been dominating the Big 12 and are clearly the class of the North and on our way back to a regular top 10 team, blah blah blah.  

Like i said, Nubb is 21-21 in their last 42 conference matchups.   You guys won the North last year, but still had a 5 loss season.    Sorry if no one in the North or the rest of the Big 12 fears the once upon a time "big red"  
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Post by: THRICE on July 30, 2007, 11:18:08 PM
Wow, these Huskers threads get out of control fast. There are alot of question marks for NU. One being the QB, obviously. And the other the D line, again obviously. But I don't understand the logic in saying that this years D line will be more talented then last years. That's a very ballsy statement, especially after stating they are going to be weaker. I have been sipping a bit of Husker koolaid lately, but damn. I suppose I am drinking from the wrong cooler.

Dear diary,

I can't wait for September!
Their secondary is definitely suspect. They also will be worse in the running game.
True, it is suspect, but in all honesty, I don't see it being any worse then last years. It will in no way be stellar, but I don't see it becoming worse.

As for the running game, we'll see. Although Jackson is gone, in MY OPINION, I feel someone will step up to the plate. I don't feel Lucky is a bust, but he has not yet lived up to his hype. I just hope Cally decides to go with one guy and sub in others when needed. The whole running game by committee just got tiresome last year.
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Post by: The Whale on October 09, 2007, 02:35:40 PM
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LOL @ not even being predicted to win the North this year let alone the Big XII.

You guys are projected someplace between 3rd and 5th. And anyone who thinks Misery will take down Nebraska needs to lay off their crack habit. Nebraska continues to improve, and will have a better team this year than last...continuing the improvement seen since Callahan took over. The only unit that will be weaker is the D-Line, which may suffer early from lack of experience, but may actually be more talented than the same unit last year. Everywhere else we have upgrades.




ttt
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Post by: Saulbadguy on October 09, 2007, 02:38:04 PM
To be fair, the bandwagon retard did come back after the ball state debacle and take his medicine.
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Post by: WildCatzPhreak on October 09, 2007, 02:41:46 PM
Excellent find.  I won't pile on Nebraska unless we beat them.

But if we do, I'm going to pile on like never before.
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Post by: Huskerfan on October 09, 2007, 02:42:57 PM
To be fair, the bandwagon retard did come back after the ball state debacle and take his medicine.

Thanks Saul. I'm not running away from my posts. I was obviously wrong about how good the team would be this year. Like all Husker fans, I'm at a loss to explain the problems we're having this year. There's definitely talent there, but the coaching is lacking. I would expect a major shakeup at the end of the season, with Cosgrove and many of the assistants being fired. The defense has been an embarrassment all season, and the Missouri game was pretty humiliating.

Good game against ku by the way. After the first quarter, I thought you had it wrapped up. As a sidenote, what the hell was Mangino thinking going for two toward the end there? They were up three after the TD, and the extra point means a FG by KSU wouldn't tie it. But he went for two, and I didn't understand that at all.

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Post by: WildCatzPhreak on October 09, 2007, 02:47:19 PM
Nobody knows why he went for two.  Just like nobody knows why he went for it on 4th when he could have taken the field goal.

He really was trying to give the game away to us, we just wouldn't take it from him.

I think Mangino's one of those coaches that is great at preparing for games, and horrible at calling them.
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Post by: Huskerfan on October 09, 2007, 02:51:55 PM
Nobody knows why he went for two.  Just like nobody knows why he went for it on 4th when he could have taken the field goal.

He really was trying to give the game away to us, we just wouldn't take it from him.

I think Mangino's one of those coaches that is great at preparing for games, and horrible at calling them.

Nebraska has a few of those as well.  :curse:
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Post by: tmramrod91 on October 09, 2007, 03:02:33 PM
Nobody knows why he went for two.  Just like nobody knows why he went for it on 4th when he could have taken the field goal.

He really was trying to give the game away to us, we just wouldn't take it from him.

I think Mangino's one of those coaches that is great at preparing for games, and horrible at calling them.

Nebraska has a few of those as well.  :curse:

Minus the great at preparing for part
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Post by: The Whale on October 09, 2007, 03:04:34 PM
I think it was a botched snap on the 2 point try.  The tv crew wasn't ready for the kick though, so you only caught it after the holder picked the ball up and started to roll out.
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Post by: ChicagoCat on October 09, 2007, 03:08:06 PM
I think it was a botched snap on the 2 point try.  The tv crew wasn't ready for the kick though, so you only caught it after the holder picked the ball up and started to roll out.
They showed a replay, the holder dropped the snap and had to try for something.  Definitely not on purpose
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Post by: Huskerfan on October 09, 2007, 03:15:05 PM
I think it was a botched snap on the 2 point try.  The tv crew wasn't ready for the kick though, so you only caught it after the holder picked the ball up and started to roll out.
They showed a replay, the holder dropped the snap and had to try for something.  Definitely not on purpose

That makes sense then. I was trying to figure why he would do that intentionally.
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Post by: catdude33 on October 09, 2007, 03:22:48 PM
Do you see what's happened here?  When KSU was better than both NU and ku, they would hold hands on message boards and gang up on K-State to make themselves feel better for sucking at football.  Now ku is better than both KSU and NU and we are becoming BFF's while ripping on ku. 

DOD, please don't leave us forever.  I love you.
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Post by: Racquetball_Ninja on October 09, 2007, 11:52:17 PM


And anyone who thinks Misery will take down Nebraska needs to lay off their crack habit.




How did this prediction work out for you?   :lol: