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Sports => The Good, The Bad, and the "Meh" => Topic started by: J Rake on July 25, 2007, 03:14:25 PM
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http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/204520.html
“In my conversation with Priest, he was excited about playing,” Peterson explained. “Later, Herm (Edwards) and I sat down with Priest here in Kansas City and discussed his decision and our thoughts on his return. We may put him on active PUP (Physically Unable to Perform) initially to gauge his football conditioning and to see how he feels after non-contact drills. But he indicated very strongly to me that he wanted to play and his motivation was to help the Kansas City Chiefs win a championship."
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wow, we don't want Priest anymore, he's washed up.
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For some reason I thought he retired....guess not.
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send LJ to the trash heap, bring in Priest and win the big kahuna aka the Super Bowl.
LJ :flush:
LOL @ LJ trying to hold out when we have an NFL MVP in camp
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wow, we don't want Priest anymore, he's washed up.
You're dumb. He's a great runner it's just he had a really bad neck/head injury.
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wow, we don't want Priest anymore, he's washed up.
You're dumb. He's a great runner it's just he had a really bad neck/head injury.
Quoted For Truth. + he and LJ's numbers both were inflated due to having the best OL in the NFL. Those days are gone.
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wow, we don't want Priest anymore, he's washed up.
You're dumb. He's a great runner it's just he had a really bad neck/head injury.
Quoted For Truth. + he and LJ's numbers both were inflated due to having the best OL in the NFL. Those days are gone.
LOL @ the Chiefs and Carl Peterson. :'(
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wow, we don't want Priest anymore, he's washed up.
You're dumb. He's a great runner it's just he had a really bad neck/head injury.
he was a good to average nfl running back at best, he ran behind an uinbelievable O-line. When LJ played behind the same O-Line his numbers were better than Priests. Plus he's old as hell now for a RB in the NFL. I'd rather have Kolby Smith as LJ's backup.
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LOL at that statement. He is one of only two running backs in NFL history to rush for 20 or more touchdowns in a season in back to back seasons. He would have done it a third time if he hadn't been injured in '04. He's also a three time pro-bowler in three consecutive years. Something neither LJ nor LT have done yet. Priest averaged 4.75 ypc at KC when he was healthy. LJ has averaged 4.7. You're pretty dumb. Average running back. :lol:
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LOL at that statement. He is one of only two running backs in NFL history to rush for 20 or more touchdowns in a season in back to back seasons. He would have done it a third time if he hadn't been injured in '04. He's also a three time pro-bowler in three consecutive years. Something neither LJ nor LT have done yet. Priest averaged 4.75 ypc at KC when he was healthy. LJ has averaged 4.7. You're pretty dumb. Average running back. :lol:
Look at who was on the offensive line, one of the best O-lines ever. I said good to average running back w/out that line to run behind. I'm a Chiefs fan I just think he was a tad overrated when he played just cuz of how good the line was. LJ ran behind an average line last year and still got 1700 yards. Bottomline Priest is washed up now. How old is he anyways, he's got to be in his early to mid 30's.
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LOL at that statement. He is one of only two running backs in NFL history to rush for 20 or more touchdowns in a season in back to back seasons. He would have done it a third time if he hadn't been injured in '04. He's also a three time pro-bowler in three consecutive years. Something neither LJ nor LT have done yet. Priest averaged 4.75 ypc at KC when he was healthy. LJ has averaged 4.7. You're pretty dumb. Average running back. :lol:
Look at who was on the offensive line, one of the best O-lines ever. I said good to average running back w/out that line to run behind. I'm a Chiefs fan I just think he was a tad overrated when he played just cuz of how good the line was. LJ ran behind an average line last year and still got 1700 yards. Bottomline Priest is washed up now. How old is he anyways, he's got to be in his early to mid 30's.
You have nothing to indicate that Priest is washed up and in case you didn't notice.. I told you that Priest averaged more ypc under the o-line with Roaf and Shields than LJ did. YPC >>> total yards.
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I don't care how you slice the LJ vs. PH discussion.
What is beyond dispute is that Priest > Michael Bennett/Kolby Smith
And if you even have to consider Priest vs. LJ, then you should want Priest on the team and in camp....BADLY.
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I don't care how you slice the LJ vs. PH discussion.
What is beyond dispute is that Priest > Michael Bennett/Kolby Smith
And if you even have to consider Priest vs. LJ, then you should want Priest on the team and in camp....BADLY.
QFT
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LOL at that statement. He is one of only two running backs in NFL history to rush for 20 or more touchdowns in a season in back to back seasons. He would have done it a third time if he hadn't been injured in '04. He's also a three time pro-bowler in three consecutive years. Something neither LJ nor LT have done yet. Priest averaged 4.75 ypc at KC when he was healthy. LJ has averaged 4.7. You're pretty dumb. Average running back. :lol:
Look at who was on the offensive line, one of the best O-lines ever. I said good to average running back w/out that line to run behind. I'm a Chiefs fan I just think he was a tad overrated when he played just cuz of how good the line was. LJ ran behind an average line last year and still got 1700 yards. Bottomline Priest is washed up now. How old is he anyways, he's got to be in his early to mid 30's.
You have nothing to indicate that Priest is washed up and in case you didn't notice.. I told you that Priest averaged more ypc under the o-line with Roaf and Shields than LJ did. YPC >>> total yards.
games attempts yards ypc td's
Holmes 2005 kan | 7 | 119 451 3.8 6
LJ 2005 Kan 16 336 1750 5.2 20
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LOL at that statement. He is one of only two running backs in NFL history to rush for 20 or more touchdowns in a season in back to back seasons. He would have done it a third time if he hadn't been injured in '04. He's also a three time pro-bowler in three consecutive years. Something neither LJ nor LT have done yet. Priest averaged 4.75 ypc at KC when he was healthy. LJ has averaged 4.7. You're pretty dumb. Average running back. :lol:
Look at who was on the offensive line, one of the best O-lines ever. I said good to average running back w/out that line to run behind. I'm a Chiefs fan I just think he was a tad overrated when he played just cuz of how good the line was. LJ ran behind an average line last year and still got 1700 yards. Bottomline Priest is washed up now. How old is he anyways, he's got to be in his early to mid 30's.
You have nothing to indicate that Priest is washed up and in case you didn't notice.. I told you that Priest averaged more ypc under the o-line with Roaf and Shields than LJ did. YPC >>> total yards.
games attempts yards ypc td's
Holmes 2005 kan | 7 | 119 451 3.8 6
LJ 2005 Kan 16 336 1750 5.2 20
He wasn't at full health in 2005. :blank:
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In 2004
Priest- 4.6 ypc
LJ- 4.8 ypc
maybe I shouldn't have said that Priest is just a good RB, he is a top 25 to 50 rb of all time, no doubt. I just think his numbers were inflated a ton by the O-line and the type of offense they ran.
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In 2004
Priest- 4.6 ypc
LJ- 4.8 ypc
maybe I shouldn't have said that Priest is just a good RB, he is a top 25 to 50 rb of all time, no doubt. I just think his numbers were inflated a ton by the O-line and the type of offense they ran.
I don't have a problem with you saying that LJ is better. I just thought that it was ludicrous that you said that Priest was an average to good running back at best. There's no question that he was a good running back.
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In 2004
Priest- 4.6 ypc
LJ- 4.8 ypc
maybe I shouldn't have said that Priest is just a good RB, he is a top 25 to 50 rb of all time, no doubt. I just think his numbers were inflated a ton by the O-line and the type of offense they ran.
I don't have a problem with you saying that LJ is better. I just thought that it was ludicrous that you said that Priest was an average to good running back at best. There's no question that he was a good running back.
I know, he was a great RB. I was trying to say that he would have been an average to good RB running behind an average line but I should give him credit for what he did and I need to stop being hypothetical. For that I apologize.
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In 2004
Priest- 4.6 ypc
LJ- 4.8 ypc
maybe I shouldn't have said that Priest is just a good RB, he is a top 25 to 50 rb of all time, no doubt. I just think his numbers were inflated a ton by the O-line and the type of offense they ran.
I don't have a problem with you saying that LJ is better. I just thought that it was ludicrous that you said that Priest was an average to good running back at best. There's no question that he was a good running back.
I know, he was a great RB. I was trying to say that he would have been an average to good RB running behind an average line but I should give him credit for what he did and I need to stop being hypothetical. For that I apologize.
lol.
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I'm with Waks on this one, pretty much from start to finish.
Yeah, Priest had a great o-line, but he also played on a team that had virtually zero threats in the passing game. His first season with KC in '01 -- the year prior to Roaf joining the team, by the way -- Holmes rushed for 1,555 yards on 327 carries for 4.8 ypc. He also finished second on the team in receptions (62) and yards (614) ... behind Tony G.
And don't tell me that Derrick Alexander, Snoop Minnis, Larry Parker and Chris Thomas on the outside opened up the running game. Trent Green (24 INT's that year) wasn't scaring anyone, either.
Priest put up those numbers against defenses who were geared to stop him, and only him. They knew every play was going to be either a Priest run or a a dump off pass to Priest in the flats -- and still couldn't stop him.
Not bad for a guy no other team wanted that off-season.
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Holmes is one of those runners that just has a knack for getting in the endzone. i don't know what it is, but whenever we were in the redzone, he would find a way to get in, and that's an area we struggled in last year. i say we get priest in on redzone opportunities every once in awhile this year, see what happens. i remember it was like the '03 season when we had an absolutely ridiculous red zone scoring percentage.
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I'd rather have Leon Patton.
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I'm with Waks on this one, pretty much from start to finish.
Yeah, Priest had a great o-line, but he also played on a team that had virtually zero threats in the passing game. His first season with KC in '01 -- the year prior to Roaf joining the team, by the way -- Holmes rushed for 1,555 yards on 327 carries for 4.8 ypc. He also finished second on the team in receptions (62) and yards (614) ... behind Tony G.
And don't tell me that Derrick Alexander, Snoop Minnis, Larry Parker and Chris Thomas on the outside opened up the running game. Trent Green (24 INT's that year) wasn't scaring anyone, either.
Priest put up those numbers against defenses who were geared to stop him, and only him. They knew every play was going to be either a Priest run or a a dump off pass to Priest in the flats -- and still couldn't stop him.
Not bad for a guy no other team wanted that off-season.
Kennison was underrated and Trent had tony G, plus the line gave him tons of time.
They obviously didn't have any trouble airing it out.
Trent Green Stats
Year Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yds YPA Lg TD Int Tkld 20+ 40+ Rate
2001 Kansas City Chiefs 16 16 523 296 56.6 3783 7.23 67 17 24 39/198 51 12 71.1
2002 Kansas City Chiefs 16 16 470 287 61.1 3690 7.85 99 26 13 26/141 46 13 92.6
2003 Kansas City Chiefs 16 16 523 330 63.1 4039 7.72 67 24 12 20/130 54 8 92.6
2004 Kansas City Chiefs 16 16 556 369 66.4 4591 8.26 70 27 17 32/227 59 9 95.2
2005 Kansas City Chiefs 16 16 507 317 62.5 4014 7.92 60 17 10 32/204 51 11 90.1
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Holmes is one of those runners that just has a knack for getting in the endzone. i don't know what it is, but whenever we were in the redzone, he would find a way to get in, and that's an area we struggled in last year. i say we get priest in on redzone opportunities every once in awhile this year, see what happens. i remember it was like the '03 season when we had an absolutely ridiculous red zone scoring percentage.
LJ has no problem getting into the endzone. In 03 Priest was in his prime and ran behind Roaf and Shields in their prime. I'm not taking anything away from him, I'm just saying it's alot different situation nowadays.
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Kennison was underrated and Trent had tony G, plus the line gave him tons of time.
Wrong again.
Kennison was aquired by the Chiefs with five weeks left in the season in '01. He caught 16 passes -- and if I remember correctly -- nearly all of them came in the finale against the Seahawks. As for Green, he got sacked 40 times (twice as many as the 20 times he was sacked in '03) and fumbled 11 times.
Were we watching the same season?
EDIT: Just to stress it, the passing game has always been stable because of the dominance of the running game. The Colts in the playoffs were one of the few teams to completely stuff the run against KC, and we all saw where the passing game went from there.
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Kennison was underrated and Trent had tony G, plus the line gave him tons of time.
Wrong again.
Kennison was aquired by the Chiefs with five weeks left in the season in '01. He caught 16 passes -- and if I remember correctly -- nearly all of them came in the finale against the Seahawks. As for Green, he got sacked 40 times (twice as many as the 20 times he was sacked in '03) and fumbled 11 times.
Were we watching the same season?
He was like eleven then.