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Title: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: dmartin on July 25, 2007, 01:53:24 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2946385&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos2

Kansas coming in at # 83.  "The Jayhawks have pulled off some impressive upsets during Mark Mangino's five-year tenure. They also have been bowl eligible three times in the last four years. However, the team's overall record under Mangino is 25-35, which is only a slight improvement over the previous five seasons (22-34)." 

The only big 12 team lower is Baylor at #101.

OSU #56  "The Cowboys are barely above .500 in the past decade (60-58). They've gone from decent to mediocre to pretty good and back to decent. OSU seems to be on the rise again, but it can't be easy knowing Bob Stoops and archrival Oklahoma have outshone the Cowboys in this 10-year stretch."

Missouri #62  "The Tigers are 59-59 in the past 10 years. And it has taken awhile, but it seems as if coach Gary Pinkel finally has some traction in Columbia. Still, it'd be nice if Mizzou beat someone very good. Aside from a 2003 upset of Nebraska, MU basically has lived off beating mediocre opponents and no one else."

ISU #66  "Under Dan McCarney, the Cyclones crept toward respectability after years of ineptitude. Still, Iowa State's sub-44 percent winning percentage the past 10 years probably merits an even lower spot on this list. When the Cyclones did make it to bowl games, they were among the programs with the lowest graduation rates. To Iowa State's credit, the program does have a very loyal following. Last season, the Cyclones were one of about 15 programs in the country to average an attendance mark that was more than 100 percent of stadium capacity. (Iowa State's attendance for the season was 323,197. Its cumulative stadium capacity for the seven home dates was 320,698.)"

#50 to #26 come out tomorrow and #25 to 1 come out friday. 

Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: GoodForAnother on July 25, 2007, 02:59:30 PM
We're in the Top 50!

 :dancin: :dancin: :dancin: :dancin:
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: steve dave on July 25, 2007, 03:12:22 PM
We're in the Top 50!

 :dancin: :dancin: :dancin: :dancin:

It is for the last decade.  We will be in the top 20.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: dmartin on July 25, 2007, 03:24:52 PM
oops, just noticed I'm a reposter.

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=14100.0;topicseen

Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: cireksu on July 25, 2007, 03:55:30 PM
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the team's overall record under Mangino is 25-35, which is only a slight improvement over the previous five seasons (22-34)." 


LOL, the north was killer for terry allen.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: WorldWideBalla21 on July 25, 2007, 03:58:28 PM
I'm gonna guess we get ranked 15th.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on July 25, 2007, 03:59:03 PM
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the team's overall record under Mangino is 25-35, which is only a slight improvement over the previous five seasons (22-34)." 


LOL, the north was killer for terry allen.

Mangina is feeling the same way Allen did.  He is doing just as crappy of a job....I hope ku keeps him a long time (or until he dies while walking on football field)
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 25, 2007, 04:01:46 PM
Can't wait to brag about this.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: steve dave on July 25, 2007, 04:16:41 PM
I'm gonna guess we get ranked 15th.

I think this is a good guess.  Where would we be at the end of 2003?  7th?
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: KSU4ME on July 25, 2007, 04:19:30 PM
I'll go with 19, they don't just use winning percentage.

Boise State:  97-28 (77.6%) for the past decade

The team with a bad coach:  98-28 (77.8%) for the past decade
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: vanro031 on July 25, 2007, 04:35:35 PM
Somewhere around 30. Too many last place finishes in the Big 12 North.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: Shout it out loud on July 25, 2007, 04:37:59 PM
Somewhere around 30. Too many last place finishes in the Big 12 North.
qft
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: ChicoRodriguez on July 25, 2007, 04:53:29 PM
I'm going to say KSU at #12.  Think about it.  It's 1997 to 2006. 
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: ew2x4 on July 25, 2007, 08:26:31 PM
I gotta say top 15.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: Shout it out loud on July 25, 2007, 09:42:51 PM
I'm going to say KSU at #12.  Think about it.  It's 1997 to 2006. 
fine 27 thats my prediction
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: waks on July 26, 2007, 08:06:10 AM
I'm going to say KSU at #12.  Think about it.  It's 1997 to 2006. 
fine 27 thats my prediction
You're also an idiot.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: HaberstrohBVBC on July 26, 2007, 08:50:14 AM
So what time have they been posting these?
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: dmartin on July 26, 2007, 10:54:48 AM
26-50 just came out, and KSU isn't there.  so we're in the top 25.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2947981

Texas A&M #29  The Aggies finally ended a dubious trifecta of unsightly droughts last season, finishing with a winning record, beating Texas and playing in an upper-tier bowl game for the first time since 1999. But coach Dennis Franchione still hasn't produced the types of campaigns the Aggies enjoyed under former coach R.C. Slocum, who went 42-5-1 from 1991 to 1994. Franchione is 25-22 in four years in College Station and still might not be off the hot seat.

Texas Tech # 32  Coach Mike Leach has transformed the Red Raiders into a high-scoring, entertaining juggernaut with his pass-happy offense. Texas Tech has won 56 games since 2000 -- only Oklahoma, Texas and Nebraska have won more games among Big 12 Conference teams. Leach has led his teams to seven straight bowl games -- the longest streak by a Texas Tech coach -- and won four of the last five postseason games. But Texas Tech's inability to play defense has prevented it from being a serious Big 12 contender during Leach's tenure.

CU # 49  The Buffaloes still are recovering from the scandals that drove former coach Gary Barnett out of town. Coach Dan Hawkins went 2-10 in his first season in Boulder, after going 53-11 in five seasons at Boise State. It might be a few more seasons before the Buffaloes are really competitive in the Big 12 again.

so that leaves KSU, NU, UT and OU in the top 25 for tomorrow.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: steve dave on July 26, 2007, 10:56:53 AM
I'm going to say KSU at #12.  Think about it.  It's 1997 to 2006. 
fine 27 thats my prediction

LOL at you being wrong
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 26, 2007, 10:57:57 AM
CU is waaayyy too low.

It's awesome that we're going to be in the top 25.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: steve dave on July 26, 2007, 11:00:46 AM
CU is waaayyy too low.

It's awesome that we're going to be in the top 25.

I really couldn't believe they have a losing record over the last ten years. 
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: KSU4ME on July 26, 2007, 11:02:10 AM
Hard to believe Francione has sucked that hard given all that aTm has to offer.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: steve dave on July 26, 2007, 11:03:47 AM
Hard to believe Francione has sucked that hard given all that aTm has to offer.

Agreed, remember when he Huggins'd Alabama.  LOL at packing in the middle of the night and making a getaway with the lights off.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 26, 2007, 11:06:52 AM
I think we'll be around 17-20. Which is really amazing considering we are Kansas State.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on July 26, 2007, 11:17:15 AM
26-50 just came out, and KSU isn't there.  so we're in the top 25.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2947981

Texas A&M #29  The Aggies finally ended a dubious trifecta of unsightly droughts last season, finishing with a winning record, beating Texas and playing in an upper-tier bowl game for the first time since 1999. But coach Dennis Franchione still hasn't produced the types of campaigns the Aggies enjoyed under former coach R.C. Slocum, who went 42-5-1 from 1991 to 1994. Franchione is 25-22 in four years in College Station and still might not be off the hot seat.

Texas Tech # 32  Coach Mike Leach has transformed the Red Raiders into a high-scoring, entertaining juggernaut with his pass-happy offense. Texas Tech has won 56 games since 2000 -- only Oklahoma, Texas and Nebraska have won more games among Big 12 Conference teams. Leach has led his teams to seven straight bowl games -- the longest streak by a Texas Tech coach -- and won four of the last five postseason games. But Texas Tech's inability to play defense has prevented it from being a serious Big 12 contender during Leach's tenure.

CU # 49  The Buffaloes still are recovering from the scandals that drove former coach Gary Barnett out of town. Coach Dan Hawkins went 2-10 in his first season in Boulder, after going 53-11 in five seasons at Boise State. It might be a few more seasons before the Buffaloes are really competitive in the Big 12 again.

so that leaves KSU, NU, UT and OU in the top 25 for tomorrow.

 :ksu: :ksu:
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: ChicagoCat on July 26, 2007, 12:25:53 PM
I'm with Fatty's prediction.  We have had 2 nonbowl years, 2 mediocre years and 6 pretty damn good years.  We should be top 20 but not by much
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: Tulsa Cat on July 26, 2007, 12:56:47 PM
Think of it this way who would be head of K-State. (in no particular order)

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Ohio State
4, Florida State
5. Oklahoma
6. Nebraska
7. Michigan
8. Miami
9. LSU
10. Auburn
11. Wisconsin
12. Virginia tech
13. Florida
14. Notre Dame

I could see us ahead of 1 or two of these.  Who is left?

Georgia, Penn state, Iowa, Tennesee, Minnesota, Washington, Boston College, maryland, Arknsas

Did I forget anyone?
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: steve dave on July 26, 2007, 01:02:12 PM
Think of it this way who would be head of K-State. (in no particular order)

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Ohio State
4, Florida State
5. Oklahoma
6. Nebraska
7. Michigan
8. Miami
9. LSU
10. Auburn
11. Wisconsin
12. Virginia tech
13. Florida
14. Notre Dame

I could see us ahead of 1 or two of these.  Who is left?

Georgia, Penn state, Iowa, Tennesee, Minnesota, Washington, Boston College, maryland, Arknsas

Did I forget anyone?

Arkansas already taken I think.  Don't know about the others.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 26, 2007, 01:04:23 PM
No way Notre Dame should be ahead of us. Georgia, Tennessee and **maybe** penn state will be ahead of us.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: KSU4ME on July 26, 2007, 01:06:00 PM
Think of it this way who would be head of K-State. (in no particular order)

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Ohio State
4, Florida State
5. Oklahoma
6. Nebraska
7. Michigan
8. Miami
9. LSU
10. Auburn
11. Wisconsin
12. Virginia tech
13. Florida
14. Notre Dame

I could see us ahead of 1 or two of these.  Who is left?

Georgia, Penn state, Iowa, Tennesee, Minnesota, Washington, Boston College, maryland, Arknsas

Did I forget anyone?

Boise State.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: KSt8er on July 26, 2007, 01:13:54 PM
off the top of my head I'd have to challenge having Auburn, Fla St., and damn sure ND ahead of us.  Although Fla St has probably been hiding behind over-rating in the polls for most of the time.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 26, 2007, 01:15:46 PM
We should be ahead of Auburn as well. Well, I guess that's debatable
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: Tulsa Cat on July 26, 2007, 01:16:31 PM
Has Boise even been a Div 1 school for a decade?
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: KSU4ME on July 26, 2007, 01:18:49 PM
Has Boise even been a Div 1 school for a decade?

Yes.

Since '96.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: kst8cat on July 26, 2007, 01:29:47 PM
Think of it this way who would be head of K-State. (in no particular order)

1. USC
2. Texas
3. Ohio State
4, Florida State
5. Oklahoma
6. Nebraska
7. Michigan
8. Miami
9. LSU
10. Auburn
11. Wisconsin
12. Virginia tech
13. Florida
14. Notre Dame

I could see us ahead of 1 or two of these.  Who is left?

Georgia, Penn state, Iowa, Tennesee, Minnesota, Washington, Boston College, maryland, Arknsas

Did I forget anyone?

Arkansas, Washington, and Minnesota have all been on the list already.  Washington and Minnesota were below #50, in fact.  I see us ranked in the 10 to 15 range, although you never know with national media bias traditionally being against K-State.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: bigdeal on July 26, 2007, 03:44:56 PM
Speaking of national media bias...Notre Dame will likely flex their national media bias by being ahead of us.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: Tulsa Cat on July 26, 2007, 04:41:37 PM
I think ND will be behind us.  What have they done lately?  I mean really?
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: chum1 on July 26, 2007, 04:45:04 PM
I don't know where we rank, just that we are elite.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: stormnut on July 26, 2007, 04:49:22 PM
Somewhere around 30. Too many last place finishes in the Big 12 North.

Low FBIQ

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2947981 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2947981)
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: WorldWideBalla21 on July 26, 2007, 05:26:58 PM
We should be ahead of Auburn as well. Well, I guess that's debatable

They won a NC so they will definately be ahead of us.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: CatsNShocks on July 27, 2007, 07:57:44 AM
Today's the day...waiting with bells on...
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: Bookcat on July 27, 2007, 08:31:04 AM
I think between 11-15 would be fair.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: waks on July 27, 2007, 08:41:49 AM
I had a dream that we were 15 so I'm pretty sure that's where we'll be.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: ERA7777 on July 27, 2007, 10:00:37 AM
I've got us at #13.  It just feels right.   :ksu:
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: CatsNShocks on July 27, 2007, 10:56:56 AM
Here it is:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2947988

We're #20.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 27, 2007, 11:03:25 AM
Kind of diasapointing. I don't think there is any doubt if you are putting the last 10 years all equal, that we should be ahead of WVU and Louisville.

Does anyone else realize we are 7-8 vs the other teams in the top 5 during the past 10 years? Pretty amazing.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: steve dave on July 27, 2007, 11:05:47 AM
LOL at:  Frank Solich maintained the success for four seasons, but they haven't been the Mighty Huskers since.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: dmartin on July 27, 2007, 11:06:30 AM
as stated above #20.

KSU #20  "Who could imagine Kansas State rebuilding? Bill Snyder turned the ne'er-do-wells into a Big 12 powerhouse, peaking with three North titles and the 2003 conference championship. Ron Prince is the rebuilder, but in facilities Snyder made possible before retiring in 2005."

Nebraska T13 "The Huskers shared the 1997 national championship with Michigan. Frank Solich maintained the success for four seasons, but they haven't been the Mighty Huskers since."

OU #5 "The Sooners won one national championship and played for another. Even after vacating eight victories at the NCAA's behest, coach Bob Stoops is averaging nearly 10 wins a year."

Texas #3 "Vast resources and vaster tradition. Coach Mack Brown has brought back the Darrell Royal touch with the common folk, and he wins like Royal, too."

I can live with #20.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: Houstoncat93 on July 27, 2007, 11:17:27 AM
Kind of diasapointing. I don't think there is any doubt if you are putting the last 10 years all equal, that we should be ahead of WVU and Louisville.

Does anyone else realize we are 7-8 vs the other teams in the top 5 during the past 10 years? Pretty amazing.

I'd add VT to that list....how do they get number 12 with 0 national titles, 0 conference titles, and a .500 winning percentage?
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 27, 2007, 11:21:22 AM
Kind of diasapointing. I don't think there is any doubt if you are putting the last 10 years all equal, that we should be ahead of WVU and Louisville.

Does anyone else realize we are 7-8 vs the other teams in the top 5 during the past 10 years? Pretty amazing.

I'd add VT to that list....how do they get number 12 with 0 national titles, 0 conference titles, and a .500 winning percentage?

Because those #'s are wrong.

And Iowa #25? What the &@#%?
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: Houstoncat93 on July 27, 2007, 11:22:52 AM
Kind of diasapointing. I don't think there is any doubt if you are putting the last 10 years all equal, that we should be ahead of WVU and Louisville.

Does anyone else realize we are 7-8 vs the other teams in the top 5 during the past 10 years? Pretty amazing.

I'd add VT to that list....how do they get number 12 with 0 national titles, 0 conference titles, and a .500 winning percentage?

Because those #'s are wrong.

And Iowa #25? What the frick?

Yeah I know, I was making fun of ESPN's cracker jack research staff and copy editors.
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 27, 2007, 11:58:05 AM
More:

David Albright: #22
Bill Curry: #11  :love: :love: :love:
Bob Davie: #20
Jim Donnan: #17
David Duffey: #24
Brad Edwards: #18
Chris Fallica: #19
Bruce Feldman: #17
Pat Forde: #16
Brian Kelly: #17
Todd McShay: #22
Ivan Maisel: UR  :rolleyes:
Lauren Reynolds: #16
Joe Schad: UR  :rolleyes:
Mark Schlabach: #18

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2949650
Title: Re: ESPN's top football programs of the last decade.
Post by: Pett on July 27, 2007, 04:14:44 PM
Should've been a little higher. But it's good that we can still brag about the top 20.