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Title: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on July 08, 2007, 03:45:48 PM
NCAA Football comes out next week. I sold my 360 earlier in the year - long story.

Now I'm in the market for something new. Which route do I go? I liked the 360, but I generally never warmed to the Microsoft factor. I've usually been PlayStation loyal, but that price tag - coupled with the lag in launch time - has been a bit too much to swallow. And while I'm impressed by the cuteness of the Wii, I expect more of my gaming console, graphically-speaking.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Trim on July 08, 2007, 03:49:46 PM
I won't be seeing you at the gym much?
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Pett on July 08, 2007, 03:50:26 PM
Wow, NCAA football on Wii, how's that supposed to work??? Just got a Wii about 4 weeks ago, I think I'll rent it on Wii before I buy it for that console.

I'm buying it on ps2 for sure though.  :thumbsup:

But to answer your question, I would have to say ps3 since I've already played that and it's great. I'll have to rent ncaa football on Wii before I'll start suggesting it. Wonder what the graphics will be like on Wii???
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: WorldWideBalla21 on July 08, 2007, 03:54:20 PM
I have a wii, it's fun w/ the wii sports game it comes w/ but w/ everything else it sucks miserably. It's good to have if there are people over and you want to have a good time. Don't get it though because sports games especially suck on it, and the graphics blow. I can't afford the xbox 360 or the ps3 so idk. I've played both and I like the ps3 better but the price tag is  :bs:.   Jeff get the old school super nintendo. get mario and DK and you're good. and get madden 95 and dominate w/ the nigerian nightmare. Chiefs kick ass in that game.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on July 08, 2007, 03:57:14 PM
KSUCats, here's something you might find interesting:

EA INTRODUCES A NEW WAY TO PLAY -- EA SPORTS FAMILY PLAY --
ON THE WII IN MADDEN NFL 08, NBA LIVE 08 AND FIFA SOCCER 08
 
EA SPORTS Family Play Simplifies Controls
 to Enable Fans of All Ages and Skill Levels to Play Together
 
 
REDWOOD CITY, Calif. – July 5, 2007 – Watch out sports fans, the playing field has been leveled!  Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: ERTS) has made it easier for players of all ages and skill levels to play its most popular EA SPORTS™ games on the Wii™ through the all-new EA SPORTS™ Family Play style of gameplay. Debuting in the Wii versions of Madden NFL 08, NBA LIVE 08 and FIFA Soccer 08, EA SPORTS Family Play is a new way to play that enables players of all abilities to play with their friends and family without a competitive disadvantage.  Advanced controls are also available for more experienced players, providing two compelling ways to play, and ensuring everyone can enjoy playing EA SPORTS games on the Wii together. 
 
In the main game of Madden NFL 08, NBA LIVE 08 and FIFA Soccer 08, players have the choice to play the style that best suits their skills. When entering a contest, players now have the option to choose Advanced or Family Play. Once in the game, Advanced users take complete control of all aspects of the gameplay through intuitive Wii gestures using both the Nunchuk and Wii remote.  EA SPORTS Family Play offers a simplified control system using just the Wii remote that enables novice players to focus on having fun while the console does the rest.  With the Wii remote in hand, players control key actions – such as shooting, passing, snapping, and throwing – while the console controls the rest. It’s like having an invisible helper on your team.  Plus, as novice players gain confidence in their ability they can gradually begin to use Advanced controls simply by plugging in the Nunchuk. It’s that easy.
 
“EA SPORTS Family Play on the Wii creates an incredibly accessible and user-friendly experience that the whole family will enjoy,” said Dave McCarthy, Executive Producer for the three games developed at EA Canada.  “While many fans love to control every piece of the action, novice players can have just as much fun jumping in to throw a touchdown pass, nail a three pointer or take a shot on goal.  Family Play brings together fans of all ages to enjoy playing EA SPORTS games, and even let’s them ease in to Advanced play if they desire.”
 
 
The following three EA SPORTS games feature EA SPORTS Family Play:
 
Madden NFL 08 on the Wii
Anyone can play like a pro in Madden NFL 08, whether a new user or a long time fan. Play with only the Wii remote with EA SPORTS Family Play or use the Wii remote and nunchuck for more advanced controls; the decision is yours. Featuring an all-new Party Mode, play trivia or chose from 22 different mini-games. Break down plays and highlight key moments with all-new Madden NFL 08 telestrator. Bring the game online, play head to head with friends and keep up to date with the live sports ticker for the ultimate online experience.
 
NBA LIVE 08 on the Wii
When the game is on the line and the ball is in your hands, what will you do? Will you penetrate the lane and rise above the rim for a monster slam, or find an opening around the perimeter and sink the game-winning basket? Jump in on the NBA action with EA SPORTS Family Play that gives every user the opportunity to enjoy success in NBA LIVE 08. You control your team’s shooting, passing, and steals on defense with the Wii remote, and leave the rest up to the AI. If you’re already a pro, use both the Wii remote and nunchuck for more advanced controls.
 
FIFA Soccer 08 on the Wii
The whole family can play FIFA Soccer 08 with a flick of the wrist. Play the traditional and authentic way or in a new party mode called Footii Party with Ronaldinho where you can play Juggling, Table Soccer or Boot It with your own Mii characters to unlock a customized Ronaldinho character to take on the champ. The in-game Soccer Academy makes it easy to learn the basic and FreeMotion™ advanced controls in more than 30 interactive tutorials, or let the game give you an assist with EA SPORTS Family Play. EA’s award-winning Interactive Leagues online play is also featured.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Pett on July 08, 2007, 03:57:52 PM
It's good to have if there are people over and you want to have a good time.

QFT.  :beerchug:  But I'm not sure about the other games being crapty because all I have now is Wii Sports & Wii play....
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: plaincat killed himself on July 08, 2007, 03:58:48 PM
Your whole job revolves around getting college athletes to discuss their lives, interests, thoughts, etc. with you.  You can't do that effectively without being well versed in all of the various video games that they spend most of their time playing.

Get all three and put it on the Eagle's bill.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: atybimf on July 08, 2007, 03:58:59 PM
60GB PS3 is supposed to drop to $500 within the next couple of weeks making it far and away a better investment with a blu-ray victory over hd-dvd looming.

Also, the PS3 won't melt internally like the 360.  The failure rate is less than %1 whereas 360's are dropping right and left.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on July 08, 2007, 03:59:19 PM
I won't be seeing you at the gym much?

On the contrary, my friend. The wedding is about two months away, so I'm going to be there quite a bit, I fear. But I still have to do something during the down time. You can come over and play, though. I'll let you be K-State. I haven't decided who I'm going to be this year yet.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on July 08, 2007, 03:59:38 PM
Honestly, none of them are worth it. They're lacking in games worth the purchase.

Just roll out the old N64 for some fun when friends are over.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on July 08, 2007, 04:00:19 PM
Your whole job revolves around getting college athletes to discuss their lives, interests, thoughts, etc. with you.  You can't do that effectively without being well versed in all of the various video games that they spend most of their time playing.

Get all three and put it on the Eagle's bill.

That's a good point. I like where your head is at...
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Pett on July 08, 2007, 04:00:46 PM
Madden NFL 08 on the Wii
Anyone can play like a pro in Madden NFL 08, whether a new user or a long time fan. Play with only the Wii remote with EA SPORTS Family Play or use the Wii remote and nunchuck for more advanced controls; the decision is yours. Featuring an all-new Party Mode, play trivia or chose from 22 different mini-games. Break down plays and highlight key moments with all-new Madden NFL 08 telestrator. Bring the game online, play head to head with friends and keep up to date with the live sports ticker for the ultimate online experience.

Sounds like the EA sports games on Wii have the chance to actually be fun when playing by yourself.  :peek:
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: The Whale on July 08, 2007, 04:01:17 PM
NCAA Football comes out next week. I sold my 360 earlier in the year - long story.

Now I'm in the market for something new. Which route do I go? I liked the 360, but I generally never warmed to the Microsoft factor. I've usually been PlayStation loyal, but that price tag - coupled with the lag in launch time - has been a bit too much to swallow. And while I'm impressed by the cuteness of the Wii, I expect more of my gaming console, graphically-speaking.

Thoughts?

I'm in the process of making the same decision.  The few times I've played games on the Wii, they were fun, but I'm not into Zelda type games, and I'm not sure I can justify $250 for Wii Sports type games. 

I'll probably end up getting a PS3 eventually....
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on July 08, 2007, 04:02:31 PM
60GB PS3 is supposed to drop to $500 within the next couple of weeks making it far and away a better investment with a blu-ray victory over hd-dvd looming.

Also, the PS3 won't melt internally like the 360.  The failure rate is less than %1 whereas 360's are dropping right and left.

You think blu-ray is going to emerge victorious? Interesting...

I agree with you about the 360. Mine hummed uncontrollably, which is part of the reason I got rid of the thing. But when is the PS3 going to drop in price? I'm not ponying up $600 or whatever the hell it costs right now. No chance.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: atybimf on July 08, 2007, 04:04:31 PM
60GB PS3 is supposed to drop to $500 within the next couple of weeks making it far and away a better investment with a blu-ray victory over hd-dvd looming.

Also, the PS3 won't melt internally like the 360.  The failure rate is less than %1 whereas 360's are dropping right and left.

You think blu-ray is going to emerge victorious? Interesting...

I agree with you about the 360. Mine hummed uncontrollably, which is part of the reason I got rid of the thing. But when is the PS3 going to drop in price? I'm not ponying up $600 or whatever the hell it costs right now. No chance.
Yes, the movies are outselling hd-dvd 2:1 right now.

I'm hearing July 15 on the price drop to $500 for the PS3.  That's ridiculous for this piece of hardware.  A standalone blu-ray player will cost you that much itself, so its really an awesome deal.  The games are on their way too (Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy XII, Gran Turismo 5, Killzone 2, the list goes on)

BTW, Playstation online network is FREE.  No $50 a year or whatever like Xbox Live.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on July 08, 2007, 04:05:46 PM
NCAA Football comes out next week. I sold my 360 earlier in the year - long story.

Now I'm in the market for something new. Which route do I go? I liked the 360, but I generally never warmed to the Microsoft factor. I've usually been PlayStation loyal, but that price tag - coupled with the lag in launch time - has been a bit too much to swallow. And while I'm impressed by the cuteness of the Wii, I expect more of my gaming console, graphically-speaking.

Thoughts?

I'm in the process of making the same decision.  The few times I've played games on the Wii, they were fun, but I'm not into Zelda type games, and I'm not sure I can justify $250 for Wii Sports type games. 

I'll probably end up getting a PS3 eventually....

It's funny. The only thing - and yes, it's a major thing - anyone ever says bad about the PS3 is the price tag. The graphics are better than 360, no? There probably aren't as many games, but that's because of the launch lag. I mean, is there something glaring I'm missing between the two consoles?

An hour ago, I was leaning towards buying another 360. Now, I might be leaning towards the PS3.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: atybimf on July 08, 2007, 04:08:03 PM
NCAA Football comes out next week. I sold my 360 earlier in the year - long story.

Now I'm in the market for something new. Which route do I go? I liked the 360, but I generally never warmed to the Microsoft factor. I've usually been PlayStation loyal, but that price tag - coupled with the lag in launch time - has been a bit too much to swallow. And while I'm impressed by the cuteness of the Wii, I expect more of my gaming console, graphically-speaking.

Thoughts?

I'm in the process of making the same decision.  The few times I've played games on the Wii, they were fun, but I'm not into Zelda type games, and I'm not sure I can justify $250 for Wii Sports type games. 

I'll probably end up getting a PS3 eventually....

It's funny. The only thing - and yes, it's a major thing - anyone ever says bad about the PS3 is the price tag. The graphics are better than 360, no? There probably aren't as many games, but that's because of the launch lag. I mean, is there something glaring I'm missing between the two consoles?

An hour ago, I was leaning towards buying another 360. Now, I might be leaning towards the PS3.
If you take a multiplatform game it will look the same, maybe a little better on 360 because developers are lazy (PS3 is more difficult to develop for apparently)  However, games developed on PS3 or PS3 exclusives look amazing, and we'll see down the road how much better than 360 they look.  At this point most games aren't even using 1/2 the PS3's power. Wait for them to start harnessing it, its gonna be exciting.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: steve dave on July 08, 2007, 04:12:20 PM
The graphics are better than 360, no? There probably aren't as many games, but that's because of the launch lag. I mean, is there something glaring I'm missing between the two consoles?

So far all of the games available for both consoles have looked and performed better on the 360.  It is easier to program games for as was mentioned.  Also, the games for the PS3 suck so far.  The Blue-Ray is a big bonus though.  I wonder if the 360 will drop in price the same day as the PS3?  That could make things interesting.  I have the 360 and may get the PS3 if they ever get any good games.  My 360 has worked perfectly for a year and a half and Microsoft just extended the warranty to 3 years.  PS3 is a huge and impressive piece of hardware and I may yet end up with one.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: konofo on July 08, 2007, 04:14:11 PM
An hour ago, I was leaning towards buying another 360.

Some light reading (http://kotaku.com/gaming/red-ring-of-death/?view=full) might be in order.

As for the PS3, other than the price, the most notable deficiency would be their online support.  Yes, Xbox Live requires a subscription, and there's a reason for that.  PlayStation Online Network is free, and there's a reason for that as well.

kono
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: atybimf on July 08, 2007, 04:16:21 PM
An hour ago, I was leaning towards buying another 360.

Some light reading (http://kotaku.com/gaming/red-ring-of-death/?view=full) might be in order.

As for the PS3, other than the price, the most notable deficiency would be their online support.  Yes, Xbox Live requires a subscription, and there's a reason for that.  PlayStation Online Network is free, and there's a reason for that as well.

kono
PSN is pretty far behind XBL, but expect that to change soon.  Big things are supposed to be announced about PSN at the upcoming E3 in LA.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 08, 2007, 04:21:19 PM
as of now, ps3 is overkill.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on July 08, 2007, 04:27:01 PM
as of now, ps3 is overkill.

Agreed. But look how long the consoles live. The PS2 is still rolling along.

I think I'm going for the PS3, but only if the price drops this week.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: atybimf on July 08, 2007, 04:34:34 PM
Do you have an HDTV JMart?
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on July 08, 2007, 04:59:02 PM
Yeah, I was going to ask about that. My buddy was telling me not to bother with PS3 because I only have 720p. He said it was best with 1080p, which makes sense because, well, it's sharper. But I've yet to find anywhere it says that.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: pissclams on July 08, 2007, 05:56:12 PM
as of now, ps3 is overkill.


Agreed. But look how long the consoles live. The PS2 is still rolling along.

I think I'm going for the PS3, but only if the price drops this week.
The PS3 drops to $500 in retail stores on July 12.
Source:  http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7946

I love my Xbox 360, but can understand the appeal of the PS3, maybe I'll pick one up in the fall.
FWIW J-Mart, they're supposed to make that humming noise, it's your dvd spinning.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Saulbadguy on July 08, 2007, 05:58:38 PM
HD-DVD will win because Sony won't allow Porn to be put on BluRay discs.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: mjrod on July 08, 2007, 06:07:48 PM
HD-DVD will win because Sony won't allow Porn to be put on BluRay discs.

Sony doesn't understand the value of porn?

What will happen to all that japanese anime?
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on July 08, 2007, 06:12:53 PM
It kills me that people will go thru their life missing out on the gold mine of entertainment that is anime.

Hentai is really not my thing though.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on July 08, 2007, 06:33:45 PM
as of now, ps3 is overkill.


Agreed. But look how long the consoles live. The PS2 is still rolling along.

I think I'm going for the PS3, but only if the price drops this week.
The PS3 drops to $500 in retail stores on July 12.
Source:  http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7946

I love my Xbox 360, but can understand the appeal of the PS3, maybe I'll pick one up in the fall.
FWIW J-Mart, they're supposed to make that humming noise, it's your dvd spinning.

I loved the 360 too. But it feels weird buying another one, you know? We'll see what happens on July 12.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: pissclams on July 08, 2007, 06:39:06 PM
Ya I hear ya.
Grab the PS3 dude. It will give you the blue ray player and has wireless built in.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on July 08, 2007, 07:37:12 PM
Ya I hear ya.
Grab the PS3 dude. It will give you the blue ray player and has wireless built in.


That's how I'm leaning unless I hear my 720p HD isn't going to be good enough, which I can't imagine is the case...
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: pissclams on July 08, 2007, 07:43:07 PM
i don't think that will be an issue for you.  tell your fiancee you're purchasing the blue-ray player so the two of you can watch unlimited hours of the dvd's of your wedding ceremony in the highest definition possible
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: steve dave on July 08, 2007, 08:12:25 PM
tell your fiancee you're purchasing the blue-ray HD-DVD player so the two of you can watch unlimited hours of the dvd's of your wedding ceremony porno in the highest definition possible

Hope that doesn't cross the line.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: atybimf on July 08, 2007, 09:01:29 PM
Ya I hear ya.
Grab the PS3 dude. It will give you the blue ray player and has wireless built in.



That's how I'm leaning unless I hear my 720p HD isn't going to be good enough, which I can't imagine is the case...
it's definitely good enough.  pick up an HDMI cable from monoprice.com (get one for $5 vs. buying a $50 one at bestbuy, same quality) and 720p will look fantastic.  not as good as 1080p of course, but still very good
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Levi Wolters on July 08, 2007, 10:34:15 PM
i don't think that will be an issue for you.  tell your fiancee you're purchasing the blue-ray player so the two of you can watch unlimited hours of the dvd's of your wedding ceremony in the highest definition possible

Wow. That's news, though I'm guessing terribly inaccurate.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: pissclams on July 08, 2007, 10:48:33 PM
i don't think that will be an issue for you.  tell your fiancee you're purchasing the blue-ray player so the two of you can watch unlimited hours of the dvd's of your wedding ceremony in the highest definition possible

Wow. That's news, though I'm guessing terribly inaccurate.

I won't be seeing you at the gym much?

On the contrary, my friend. The wedding is about two months away, so I'm going to be there quite a bit, I fear. But I still have to do something during the down time. You can come over and play, though. I'll let you be K-State. I haven't decided who I'm going to be this year yet.
:confused:
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: ChicoRodriguez on July 08, 2007, 11:19:45 PM
I have all three systems.  I also have a 720p DLP.

 NCAA Football is not coming out on Wii so you can scratch that one off your list.  The frame rate for the 360 version is 60fps while on the PS3 it's only 30fps.  That's the only difference between the two, though a slightly major one.

The online play is better with the 360 but Sony's is supposed to start coming on in the fall with their online network. 

I bought the PS3 mostly for the Blu-Ray player and it's a really good one.  The difference between regular DVDs and Blu-Ray is pretty dramatic.  So with the PS3 you sort of get both a gaming system and a future-proof Blu-Ray player.

If you're going to mostly play games, I would go with the 360, mainly for the online factor and the amount of titles that are available for it. There still aren't that many game titles out for the PS3.


Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: waks on July 08, 2007, 11:20:23 PM
360.


I kick ass at NCAA '07 on one, btw.



Chico, check pm.

kono
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: ChicoRodriguez on July 08, 2007, 11:41:36 PM
Your 720p TV will be fine for either PS3 or 360, btw.

As one who considers himself a home theater expert, don't put much stock into the 1080p.  You won't notice the difference between the two resolutions if your tv is less than 50".  :cheers:


Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: atybimf on July 08, 2007, 11:51:13 PM
Sony officially confirmed the price drop to $499 on the PS3 tonight.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Super PurpleCat on July 08, 2007, 11:59:40 PM
I'll be getting a Wii soon.  I already have a PS2 and I have no interest in a PS3 or Xbox.  The good news for me is EA is going to be publishing MacOS X versions now so that's why the Wii is all I need.  :)
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: ChicoRodriguez on July 09, 2007, 12:00:53 AM
Tiger Woods on the Wii is a blast.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: ew2x4 on July 09, 2007, 08:25:04 AM
You should get the 360. Much better library of games (September will have tons of awesome games coming out), plus Xbox Live is really nice- you could kick all of our asses. If you have an HDTV, you can download tons of HD movies and stuff, plus you can download demos to all the games.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: kougar24 on July 09, 2007, 08:57:36 AM
The PS3 is the only true "next-gen" console out of the 3 (the 360 is "gen-and-a-half"), but the problem is, game developers haven't yet grasped how to code for the cell processor technology. Once they do (see: Star Wars: Force Unleashed and its first-of-a-kind true physics engine), the sweet games will come rolling off the shelves and PS3 will catch up to and pass the 360 in sales. Just depends on your time table. Right at this minute I would still recommend the 360.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Trim on July 09, 2007, 10:25:47 AM
Jul 9 2007 9:09 AM EDT

Sony Blinks, Drops Price Of PlayStation 3 In North America
Also announced: a new version of the console that will include an 80-gigabyte hard drive.
By Stephen Totilo

Sony appears to have blinked first in the current video game console war.

The company that dominated the battle among the PlayStation 2, Xbox and GameCube announced Monday (July 9) that its current model of the eight-month-old PlayStation 3 will drop in price from $599 to $499 in North America, effective immediately. Neither Microsoft's Xbox 360 nor Nintendo's Wii have dropped in price since the systems' respective launches in November 2005 and November 2006.

Sony also announced plans for the August introduction of a new version of the PS3 that will include an 80-gigabyte hard drive — 20 GB more than the current model — and a copy of the early 2007 racing game "MotorStorm." The new model will retail for $599.

The PlayStation 3 has been the third-place console in 2007 month-to-month sales, according to NPD, a research group that tracks sales in the U.S. Dave Karraker, head spokesperson for Sony's American PlayStation division, told MTV News that part of the reason to lower the price on the 60 GB model was to get the system in more hands. "We need to increase our installed base," he said. "That's no secret to anybody."

Sony Computer Entertainment of America President/CEO Jack Tretton cited falling component costs as an added factor. "Since the introduction of the original PlayStation 3 60 gigabyte model back in November of last year, the company has been able to reach some tremendous production milestones and ultimately has been able to reduce the cost of the PlayStation 3," he said in a statement. "We want to pass those cost savings on to consumers, and as a result, we have been able to lower the price."

When the PS3 price was first announced in May 2006, Sony officials explained that the console's cutting-edge Blu-ray disc player, which plays high-definition movies, was a significant factor in the console's unusually high price. Coupled with this announcement, Karraker pointed out that Sony's standalone Blu-ray players recently dropped in price by $100, a sign of falling Blu-ray component prices.

In April, Sony streamlined its PS3 line by eliminating a $499 20 GB model that lacked built-in WiFi. Why would Sony return to having two versions of the PS3? "The thinking is we would be offering this as part of the expanded effort for downloadable content and in preparation for the extended download store that's coming," said Karraker. He said the upcoming store will give PS3 owners the ability to download TV shows and high-definition movies. The added storage will also make more room for some of the bigger downloadable PS3 games, such as this fall's "Warhawk," which Karrarker said would be about 1 GB.

Aside from the increased storage and bundled game, the 80 GB version will be identical to the 60 GB one, and will not be in a different color or receive a specialized name. That's a different strategy than the one used by Microsoft. This spring, the Xbox 360 maker added to its line of $299 and $399 Xbox 360s a $479 120 GB Xbox 360 Elite, painted black to set it apart from the other model's white finish (see "Xbox 360 Is Back In Black With Roomier Elite Console").

Console comparisons are rarely apple-to-apple comparisons. As it stands now, the Elite will offer twice the storage as the newly price-cut 60 GB PS3, but only Sony's machine has built-in WiFi and the ability to play back high-definition movies on disc (the Elite can store and play high-def movies rented from Microsoft's Xbox Live download store). Naturally the other big difference is the competing lineup of exclusive games. Those rosters will be brought to the fore this week as Microsoft and Sony showcase their lineups at the Electronics Entertainment Expo in Santa Monica, California.

The current top-selling console in America is the Nintendo Wii, which has benefited from positive reception of its unusual motion-based gameplay and its lower price. The Wii has outsold the 360 and PS3 every month this year. For example, in May — the most recent month for which NPD sales are available — the $249 Wii sold 338,000 units to the 360's 155,000 and PS3's 81,000. (The $129 PS2 sold 187,000.) The cheaper the console, the bigger sales might be. So given the falling component costs cited by Sony reps, would the company consider bringing back the 20 GB model for a lower cost, possibly $399, to make a run at Nintendo? Not quite. "I think the 20 gigabyte [version] is gone and gone for good at this point," Karraker said.

What isn't being ruled out is a continued evolution of the PS3 and more new models to come. The 80 GB version may not be the last new PS3. "We'll see how the waters churn on it," Karraker said. "If people want more hard-drive space or want something else, we'll address that and keep moving. That's no different with a car model and adding new pieces and parts that people are looking for."

He added: "If you look at what we're really focused on right now, it's increasing our installed base and creating that great content for those games. Whatever we need to do to make that happen is what we're going to do."


Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: atybimf on July 09, 2007, 11:52:22 AM
JMart - http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Sony-PlayStation-3-60GB/sem/rpsm/oid/166283/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

60GB PS3 for $499 including a free extra controller and 5 free blu-ray movies - awesome deal
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: ew2x4 on July 09, 2007, 04:01:09 PM
The PS3 is the only true "next-gen" console out of the 3 (the 360 is "gen-and-a-half"), but the problem is, game developers haven't yet grasped how to code for the cell processor technology. Once they do (see: Star Wars: Force Unleashed and its first-of-a-kind true physics engine), the sweet games will come rolling off the shelves and PS3 will catch up to and pass the 360 in sales. Just depends on your time table. Right at this minute I would still recommend the 360.

The problem is gameplay>graphics. The PS3 has nearly no exclusive games. All of their big games (GTA IV, MGS 4, etc) are going to show up on the 360 (which is rumored for a price drop as well).

The 360 has an amazing amount of content coming its way soon. HL2 Orangebox, Unreal Tournament III, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Call of Duty 4, etc. 3 of those are in September, alone. When the PS3 starts cranking out the graphics (if it ever does, see PS2), I wonder if it will be enough? It's getting hammered by everything at the moment. Upcoming big games for other consoles aren't going to help.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: kougar24 on July 09, 2007, 04:13:28 PM
When the PS3 starts cranking out the graphics (if it ever does, see PS2), I wonder if it will be enough?

Trust me: it'll be enough. Like I said, when developers learn the ins and outs of cell processing, the games will blow your mind. Have you seen the physics engine demonstration vids (youtube) for The Force Unleashed yet? Ridiculous.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: Levi Wolters on July 09, 2007, 06:51:19 PM
i don't think that will be an issue for you.  tell your fiancee you're purchasing the blue-ray player so the two of you can watch unlimited hours of the dvd's of your wedding ceremony in the highest definition possible

Wow. That's news, though I'm guessing terribly inaccurate.

I won't be seeing you at the gym much?

On the contrary, my friend. The wedding is about two months away, so I'm going to be there quite a bit, I fear. But I still have to do something during the down time. You can come over and play, though. I'll let you be K-State. I haven't decided who I'm going to be this year yet.
:confused:

Ah, he's best man at a friend's wedding back in Vermont.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: waks on July 09, 2007, 07:12:15 PM
When the PS3 starts cranking out the graphics (if it ever does, see PS2), I wonder if it will be enough?

Trust me: it'll be enough. Like I said, when developers learn the ins and outs of cell processing, the games will blow your mind. Have you seen the physics engine demonstration vids (youtube) for The Force Unleashed yet? Ridiculous.
Please post link to video. Thanks.

kono
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: kougar24 on July 09, 2007, 09:14:38 PM
When the PS3 starts cranking out the graphics (if it ever does, see PS2), I wonder if it will be enough?

Trust me: it'll be enough. Like I said, when developers learn the ins and outs of cell processing, the games will blow your mind. Have you seen the physics engine demonstration vids (youtube) for The Force Unleashed yet? Ridiculous.
Please post link to video. Thanks.

There are several on this page. (http://youtube.com/results?search_query=the+force+unleashed&search=) If you understand anything at all about coding, you will appreciate how freaking hard it would be to program a "true" physics engine, with no scripting.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: The Whale on July 09, 2007, 10:07:35 PM
When the PS3 starts cranking out the graphics (if it ever does, see PS2), I wonder if it will be enough?

Trust me: it'll be enough. Like I said, when developers learn the ins and outs of cell processing, the games will blow your mind. Have you seen the physics engine demonstration vids (youtube) for The Force Unleashed yet? Ridiculous.
Please post link to video. Thanks.

There are several on this page. (http://youtube.com/results?search_query=the+force+unleashed&search=) If you understand anything at all about coding, you will appreciate how freaking hard it would be to program a "true" physics engine, with no scripting.

Clips like that make me wish I'd tried a little harder in the computer graphics classes I took at KSU. 
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: waks on July 09, 2007, 10:40:12 PM
When the PS3 starts cranking out the graphics (if it ever does, see PS2), I wonder if it will be enough?

Trust me: it'll be enough. Like I said, when developers learn the ins and outs of cell processing, the games will blow your mind. Have you seen the physics engine demonstration vids (youtube) for The Force Unleashed yet? Ridiculous.
Please post link to video. Thanks.

There are several on this page. (http://youtube.com/results?search_query=the+force+unleashed&search=) If you understand anything at all about coding, you will appreciate how freaking hard it would be to program a "true" physics engine, with no scripting.
I know absolutely nothing about coding, fwiw.

kono
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: kougar24 on July 09, 2007, 10:45:22 PM
When the PS3 starts cranking out the graphics (if it ever does, see PS2), I wonder if it will be enough?

Trust me: it'll be enough. Like I said, when developers learn the ins and outs of cell processing, the games will blow your mind. Have you seen the physics engine demonstration vids (youtube) for The Force Unleashed yet? Ridiculous.
Please post link to video. Thanks.

There are several on this page. (http://youtube.com/results?search_query=the+force+unleashed&search=) If you understand anything at all about coding, you will appreciate how freaking hard it would be to program a "true" physics engine, with no scripting.
I know absolutely nothing about coding, fwiw.

kono

Just trust me, then, kono/waks: it's hard.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: waks on July 09, 2007, 10:45:52 PM
When the PS3 starts cranking out the graphics (if it ever does, see PS2), I wonder if it will be enough?

Trust me: it'll be enough. Like I said, when developers learn the ins and outs of cell processing, the games will blow your mind. Have you seen the physics engine demonstration vids (youtube) for The Force Unleashed yet? Ridiculous.
Please post link to video. Thanks.

There are several on this page. (http://youtube.com/results?search_query=the+force+unleashed&search=) If you understand anything at all about coding, you will appreciate how freaking hard it would be to program a "true" physics engine, with no scripting.
I know absolutely nothing about coding, fwiw.

kono

Just trust me, then, kono/waks: it's hard.
I'll take your word for it.

kono
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: waks on July 09, 2007, 10:51:45 PM
Damn.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7iCdN2FGOaQ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7iCdN2FGOaQ)

kono
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: ew2x4 on July 09, 2007, 11:53:17 PM
That's pretty impressive technology. Whether or not it will sell the games remains to be seen. I almost consider console gamers to be a visual ADD group while the PC gamers are more impressed by this kind of stuff. Either way, it's awesome to see this kind of stuff improving.

Have you checked out all the Crysis stuff? There are some amazing tech demos. There's one of a nuclear blast tearing apart buildings. I consider Crysis to be more eye candy than physics awesomeness, though.
Title: Re: 360, PS3 or Wii?
Post by: ew2x4 on July 09, 2007, 11:56:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gsIzP9s_t0

Like I said earlier, the physics aren't as impressive as the Force Unleashed, but the graphics blow away anything I have ever seen.