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Title: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: 60scatfan on July 05, 2007, 09:42:42 PM
recruits not making it?
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: ChicoRodriguez on July 05, 2007, 09:44:10 PM
pinchback is probably not going to happen

my guess is that walls isn't going to either.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: Pett on July 05, 2007, 09:47:32 PM
Old news that you might not of heard, but Jake Roepke is going to Butler C.C.C.

The other player that it seems is a for sure JUCO route is Pinchback, and maybe Eldridge Sims. But other than those three it seems like everyone else is in good shape.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: Leyton on July 06, 2007, 02:55:18 AM
Old news that you might not of heard, but Jake Roepke is going to Butler C.C.C.

The other player that it seems is a for sure JUCO route is Pinchback, and maybe Eldridge Sims. But other than those three it seems like everyone else is in good shape.

Is Butler C.C.C., like, a juco version of a juco?  If so, I'm pulling for Jake to make it to a juco (proper) before it's all said and done.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: chum1 on July 06, 2007, 07:39:22 AM
Butler County Community College

quod erat demonstrandum
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: asava on July 06, 2007, 08:22:13 AM
anybody else annoyed at the fact that butler plays in the Kansas Jayhawk conference?
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: FBWillie on July 06, 2007, 09:14:02 AM
Old news that you might not of heard, but Jake Roepke is going to Butler C.C.C.

The other player that it seems is a for sure JUCO route is Pinchback, and maybe Eldridge Sims. But other than those three it seems like everyone else is in good shape.

Is Butler C.C.C., like, a juco version of a juco?  If so, I'm pulling for Jake to make it to a juco (proper) before it's all said and done.

Uhh... Butler's the 4 time national champions Juco School.   KJCCC champions the last 6 times in a row; 14 times overall...   as far as athletics  go, they're probably one of the best Juco schools in the midwest.  You really should have heard of them.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: KSU4ME on July 06, 2007, 09:36:07 AM
Crap, yet another player that will have Butler as a GATEKEEPER.

Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: BRULL on July 06, 2007, 09:41:12 AM
Did Cuba decide not to accept the Grayshirt offer? He's not enrolled. Drinkgern is.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: konofo on July 06, 2007, 09:44:21 AM
anybody else annoyed at the fact that butler plays in the Kansas Jayhawk conference?

I can't think of a more appropriate name for our minor league farm system.

kono
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: KungFoooKitty on July 06, 2007, 10:35:13 AM
Kansas State = Majors
Kansas = AAA
Butler C.C.C. = AA
? = A
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: The Manhatter on July 06, 2007, 11:41:35 AM
Did Cuba decide not to accept the Grayshirt offer? He's not enrolled. Drinkgern is.


Greyshirt only means they go on scholarship at 2nd semester.  It has NOTHING to do w/ that first semester.  NOTHING.

It has everything to do w/ the elgibility clock of an athlete.  Once an athlete attends his first class as a "FULL-TIME" student their eligibility clock starts and they have 5 years to complete and compete.  IT DOES NOT START IF YOU ATTEND CLASSES AS A PART-TIME STUDENT.

Greyshirt = Does not go to school first semester but goes on scholarship 2nd semester (ex: Jonathan Lewis)
Greyshirt = PAYS OWN WAY AS PART-TIME STUDENT first semester and goes on scholarship 2nd semester.

Greyshirt = Has nothing to do w/ first semester just a signed promise of program to start paying that 2nd semester.


Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: The Manhatter on July 06, 2007, 11:45:50 AM
non-qualifiers = Evans, Harris, Haynes, McDaniel, Pinchback, Roepke, and most suspect Walls will be on that list as well.  Everybody expected Evans, Harris, Haynes, and McDaniel to be non-qualifiers when they signed.  There was talk last fall that both Roepke and Pinchback would be likely non-qualifiers.  Walls was the only one that came as a surprise though his fate has yet to be decided per his mom.

KSU added a JC OL named Eric Benoit. 

Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: KSU4ME on July 06, 2007, 11:46:24 AM
Did the Jerrell McDaniel situation ever get clarified?

Jerrell and Lamark together would be mighty fine.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: ds43fan on July 06, 2007, 11:46:57 AM
Kansas State = Majors
Kansas = AAA
Butler C.C.C. = AA
? = A
Garden City?
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: KSU4ME on July 06, 2007, 12:02:57 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of:

A = Salina Central
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: ds43fan on July 06, 2007, 12:03:55 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of:

A = Salina Central
A=4th Teir Texas Players
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: fb on July 06, 2007, 12:10:35 PM
Brainfart setting in but isn't one of Liu or Sims unlikely to show too?
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: KSU4ME on July 06, 2007, 12:32:25 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of:

A = Salina Central
A=4th Teir Texas Players

 :curse:

I was hoping to get some of that Salina-Central vs. Salina-South smack going.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: ds43fan on July 06, 2007, 12:36:07 PM
4th Tier Texas Players>SC or SS
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: KSU4ME on July 06, 2007, 12:38:04 PM
And SC/SS >>> Wichita.

Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: ds43fan on July 06, 2007, 12:40:51 PM
And SC/SS >>> Wichita.


Medicine Lodge>Wichita
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: The Manhatter on July 06, 2007, 12:43:30 PM
Did the Jerrell McDaniel situation ever get clarified?

Jerrell and Lamark together would be mighty fine.

McDaniel is going juco.  We know that for sure as his mother told a reporter.  And we knew that was going to happen.  There was a false alarm on here a few weeks ago spread by me..ehdabeags said he had qualified but had him mixed up w/ ANOTHER Illinois kid, Stewart.

And McDaniel not to be confused w/ Hogan.

Though it would have been badass to have all three...at least we have both Hogan and Lamark in Manhattan right now.

Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: KSU4ME on July 06, 2007, 12:44:19 PM
Smith Center > Medicine Lodge

Of course Agra-Eastern Heights is the REAL pipeline.

Prince has been spending lots of time down there.  If Butler were wise, he'd book a flight to Agra ASAP and get some of those kids on board with PP.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: KSU4ME on July 06, 2007, 12:45:50 PM
McDaniel is going juco.  We know that for sure as his mother told a reporter.  And we knew that was going to happen.  There was a false alarm on here a few weeks ago spread by me..ehdabeags said he had qualified but had him mixed up w/ ANOTHER Illinois kid, Stewart.

And McDaniel not to be confused w/ Hogan.

Though it would have been badass to have all three...at least we have both Hogan and Lamark in Manhattan right now.



That's what I figured.  I had my hopes up though with that false alarm.  Getting two studs out of the STL area that contributed right away would have been real nice.  STL has a good amount of talent.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: The Manhatter on July 06, 2007, 12:46:47 PM
Brainfart setting in but isn't one of Liu or Sims unlikely to show too?

Liu is already in Manhattan so he's qualified.

Sims is not in Manhattan yet but claims he will be...but it's sort of looking like Ricky Miller saga to me.  Said he would be done in December.  He wasn't.  Then it was May..nope.  Then it was the end of June.  Nope.  Now it's the end of July.  We have seen these types before...I'd call him 50/50(if that) at this point based on similar JC's in the past who do this.

Murphy taking one more class right now...allegedly.  One he already took and failed, allegedly.



Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: ds43fan on July 06, 2007, 12:47:26 PM
McDaniel is going juco.  We know that for sure as his mother told a reporter.  And we knew that was going to happen.  There was a false alarm on here a few weeks ago spread by me..ehdabeags said he had qualified but had him mixed up w/ ANOTHER Illinois kid, Stewart.

And McDaniel not to be confused w/ Hogan.

Though it would have been badass to have all three...at least we have both Hogan and Lamark in Manhattan right now.



That's what I figured.  I had my hopes up though with that false alarm.  Getting two studs out of the STL area that contributed right away would have been real nice.  STL has a good amount of talent.
STL=A?
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: BRULL on July 06, 2007, 12:48:06 PM
Did Cuba decide not to accept the Grayshirt offer? He's not enrolled. Drinkgern is.


Greyshirt only means they go on scholarship at 2nd semester.  It has NOTHING to do w/ that first semester.  NOTHING.

Never siad it did.

It has everything to do w/ the elgibility clock of an athlete.  Once an athlete attends his first class as a "FULL-TIME" student their eligibility clock starts and they have 5 years to complete and compete.  IT DOES NOT START IF YOU ATTEND CLASSES AS A PART-TIME STUDENT.

That's why I asked.

Greyshirt = Does not go to school first semester but goes on scholarship 2nd semester (ex: Jonathan Lewis)

Like you say below, they can go to the first semester, but have to pay their own way.

Greyshirt = PAYS OWN WAY AS PART-TIME STUDENT first semester and goes on scholarship 2nd semester.

Greyshirt = Has nothing to do w/ first semester just a signed promise of program to start paying that 2nd semester.





Soooo... is your short answer that he will enroll for the 2008 Spring semester?
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: The Manhatter on July 06, 2007, 12:48:52 PM

That's what I figured.  I had my hopes up though with that false alarm.  Getting two studs out of the STL area that contributed right away would have been real nice.  STL has a good amount of talent.


The good news is that we'll get McDaniel, Haynes, Harris, and whoever in a few years.  If we want them.

Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: The Manhatter on July 06, 2007, 12:51:21 PM

Soooo... is your short answer that he will enroll for the 2008 Spring semester?


I was just clairfying for you what a greyshirt is...since you thought he might no longer be greyshirting since he wasn't enrolled.  Of course he could still be going to school in the fall semester if he wants to pay his own way.

I don't know why he wouldn't enroll for the spring semester.  There has been some talk that Drinkgern might not want to play football any longer but who knows where that came from.

Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: ksuno1stunner on July 06, 2007, 12:52:16 PM

Soooo... is your short answer that he will enroll for the 2008 Spring semester?


I was just clairfying for you what a greyshirt is...since you thought he might no longer be greyshirting since he wasn't enrolled.  Of course he could still be going to school in the fall semester if he wants to pay his own way.

I don't know why he wouldn't enroll for the spring semester.  There has been some talk that Drinkgern might not want to play football any longer but who knows where that came from.



Doubt it but wouldn't mind it.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: KSU4ME on July 06, 2007, 12:54:58 PM
STL=A?

That would be a good thing. 

I think the appropriate value chain is this:

 :love: 4th Tier Texas Players  :love: >   STL   >   Salina Central   >   Salina South   >   Smith Center   >   Medicine Lodge   >   Agra Eastern Heights   >>>>>>>   Wichita
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: BRULL on July 06, 2007, 12:59:10 PM
Thanks. I knew what greyshirt meant, but thought that most would enroll for the Fall semester anyways.

I didn't mean he had to enroll for the Fall. Since I have been following this stuff, (which isn't that long) most have enrolled for the Fall.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: fb on July 06, 2007, 01:15:40 PM
Thanks for clearing that up.  I knew one was not really a worry but couldn't remember which one.  Lately someone had told me Sims was on the fence.  Old brain just doesn't fire sometimes.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: WorldWideBalla21 on July 06, 2007, 01:17:36 PM
STL=A?

That would be a good thing. 

I think the appropriate value chain is this:

 :love: 4th Tier Texas Players  :love: >   STL   >   Salina Central   >   Salina South   >   Smith Center   >   Medicine Lodge   >   Agra Eastern Heights   >>>>>>>   Wichita


Wichita has some talent.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: KSU4ME on July 06, 2007, 01:42:32 PM
I'd rather have 4th Tier Texas Players.

That's what KSU is built on.  The glory days of Snyder were attained by urinating on Wichita kids while offering scrub Texans scholarships.  Don't mess with a proven formula.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: Pete on July 06, 2007, 04:20:05 PM


Uhh... Butler's the 4 time national champions Juco School.   KJCCC champions the last 6 times in a row; 14 times overall...   as far as athletics  go, they're probably one of the best Juco schools in the midwest.  You really should have heard of them.

Jucos are for mouth breather dolts with monkey-like IQ levels, or social misfits who can't manage to escape their parent's basement.  Don't get me wrong, I think we should recruit the hell out of them...but the only thing more ridiculous than a juco "education" is being a juco "fan." 
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: FBWillie on July 06, 2007, 04:50:55 PM


Uhh... Butler's the 4 time national champions Juco School.   KJCCC champions the last 6 times in a row; 14 times overall...   as far as athletics  go, they're probably one of the best Juco schools in the midwest.  You really should have heard of them.

Jucos are for mouth breather dolts with monkey-like IQ levels, or social misfits who can't manage to escape their parent's basement.  Don't get me wrong, I think we should recruit the hell out of them...but the only thing more ridiculous than a juco "education" is being a juco "fan." 

Who the hell said anything about being a Juco fan, if you've ever taken the turnpike between Wichita and Emporia, you've seen the signs that gave the exact info I just spat out.  I'm simply pointing out that if you know anything about College football and incoming Juco recruits, you should have a vague idea of BCCC. 


P.S.  Totally agree with everything you said; Except, I'd take classes at BCCC before Wichita State.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: KSU4ME on July 06, 2007, 05:01:15 PM
I thought WSU was a Juco.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: ds43fan on July 06, 2007, 05:35:11 PM
I'd rather have 4th Tier Texas Players.

That's what KSU is built on.  The glory days of Snyder were attained by urinating on Wichita kids while offering scrub Texans scholarships.  Don't mess with a proven formula.
I thought WSU was a Juco.
i'm beginning to like this guys posting style
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: JTKSU on July 08, 2007, 03:51:27 PM
Just a little FYI- from what I understand, Butler Co. Community College is now known simply as Butler College.  At least I'm pretty sure about that.
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: konofo on July 08, 2007, 03:57:03 PM
Just a little FYI- from what I understand, Butler Co. Community College is now known simply as Butler College.  At least I'm pretty sure about that.

Close.  Butler Community College (http://www.butlercc.edu).

kono
Title: Re: Any word on any of the incoming
Post by: Poopley on July 08, 2007, 04:08:51 PM
BCC renamed itself so as not to be confused with BCCC.