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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: fatty fat fat on June 14, 2007, 12:56:25 PM
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when we don't land anyone from the Kansas top 4, during the state's two best years in recent history?
Hawkinson, Zlatnik will probably go to ku.
Harper is a longshot.
Arthur isn't coming.
:banghead:
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It says that we should get better at basketball quickly.
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when we don't land anyone from the Kansas top 4, during the state's two best years in recent history?
Hawkinson, Zlatnik will probably go to ku.
Harper is a longshot.
Arthur isn't coming.
:banghead:
What would have it said about Snyder?
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It just goes to show that we are a basketball state.
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Here is a Break Down
Snyder
2003 1 Rashaad Norwood
2004 2 Nick Patton - Matt Boss
2005 1 Nick Stringer
Snyder/Prince
2006 1 Scott Krehbiel
Prince
2007 0
2008 ?
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Long ways to go still, but it just makes all that 'sealing up the borders' talk from the '06 signing period appear to be a little wishful thinking.
Don't those business books he reads mention something about under-promising & over-delivering?
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Long ways to go still, but it just makes all that 'sealing up the borders' talk from the '06 signing period appear to be a little wishful thinking.
Don't those business books he reads mention something about under-promising & over-delivering?
He is to busy ready history books to be thinking about the present.
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That he's Julius Caesar......
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It tells me that he needs to drink more.
Seriously though, quit being so obtuse.
Think about who Huggy would have signed last year had he hired 4 Brad Underwood's, compared to Prince's crew of 10 Tim McCarty's (last year and this).
Huggins hired who he needed to in order to land big time players.
Prince thinks he can machine this up from the ground.
Prince should have 10 mega-Dalonte's & Martin's on his staff.
LOL @ Prince.
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That he's Julius Caesar......
Screw the Rubicon, bring on Tuttle!
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LOL @ Prince.
:flush:
QFT
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I'm really tired of hearing about kansas football recruits being from ku families (i.e. basketball fans). You'd think we would have garnered more goodwill amongst the state in terms of being a premier school for football in the state, but the last two years of Bill apparently destroyed that.
Honestly though, off the top of my head, I can only think of a few kids that, during Snyder's tenure "got a way" for one reason or another: Tuman, Deangelo Evans, Kameron Wimbley. Most recently I guess you could throw Nick Reid, Mike Rivera, and Xzavie Jackson in that category as well. Otherwise, if the kid was from kansas and was good (or at least ended up being good) he went to KSU.
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I'm really tired of hearing about kansas football recruits being from ku families (i.e. basketball fans). You'd think we would have garnered more goodwill amongst the state in terms of being a premier school for football in the state, but the last two years of Bill apparently destroyed that.
Honestly though, off the top of my head, I can only think of a few kids that, during Snyder's tenure "got a way" for one reason or another: Tuman, Deangelo Evans, Kameron Wimbley. Most recently I guess you could throw Nick Reid, Mike Rivera, and Xzavie Jackson in that category as well. Otherwise, if the kid was from kansas and was good (or at least ended up being good) he went to KSU.
Great part was that Snyder owned Missouri during pretty much his whole tenure, and Oklahoma for a good part of it. Incredible.
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You guys don't think we'll get Arthur? Waks said he was a silent commit.
:thumbsup:
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waks? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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You guys don't think we'll get Arthur? Waks said he was a silent commit.
:thumbsup:
how is that you trust a guy that doesn't pay up?
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Arthur will commit in August. We have no idea with Harper. Hawkinson will probably end up at Ga Tech and Zlatnik will end up at ku if a better out of state school doesn't offer.
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when we don't land anyone from the Kansas top 4, during the state's two best years in recent history?
Hawkinson, Zlatnik will probably go to ku.
Harper is a longshot.
Arthur isn't coming.
:banghead:
It says more about Bill Snyder more than anything.
These kids should have been brainwashed by now. They grew up in the hey day
of KSU and honestly, should have dreamed of wearing the purple and white on Saturday's.
But b/c Coach Snyder handled the media the way he did and the marketing of the
program was in the stone ages , I feel the kids got mixed messages about Coach Snyder and KSU. They got -- KSU goes to bowl games b/c they don't play anyone in the non-conference. KSU is Juco U. Bill Snyder is a task master that while he wins, he's too demanding of his assistant coaches, kids don't
have fun playing with him etc.
The way the "glory years" were marketed and delivered to the generation of kids that were living in it was a giant swing and a miss. They had 11
straight years of bowl games. An 11 year foundation in which to cement KSU as "the place to be if you're a Kansas kid and want to
play division I football.
These kids that Prince is missing on -- the message or "want to" should have been bred into them long before this.
The marketing of the program is key -- especially when you have things rolling. I'm "hopeful" that our marketing department has their gears in full motion with this class that just came in, b/c this is a chance to really capitalize for the now and the tomorrow.
I'm convinced that if Prince gets things going the way he envisions, that he'll be able to walk into any house in this state and handpick the kids that he wants to wear the purple and white.
Snyder could have done that , but didn't quite grasp....or maybe he didn't want to deal with it.......the game that has to be played for that to work.
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It says more about Bill Snyder more than anything.
you envision better recruiting in the future under Prince? I don't. If he can't get it done after surprising the big 12 last year, why would he in the future?
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It says more about Bill Snyder more than anything.
you envision better recruiting in the future under Prince? I don't. If he can't get it done after surprising the big 12 last year, why would he in the future?
We certainly surprised people after the Texas game :banghead:
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It says more about Bill Snyder more than anything.
you envision better recruiting in the future under Prince? I don't. If he can't get it done after surprising the big 12 last year, why would he in the future?
Get what done? Maybe we should give Prince more than just one year before you say he can't recruit?
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....we should give Prince more than just one year before you say he can't recruit?
Why should we assume he can? He hasn't ever been a head coach before, and the only recruiting "win" he has is getting Josh Freeman and his dad to like him. It remains to be seen whether Freeman can live up to his stars. Josh Moore was a nice find, but every single team in the Big 12 gets a nice surprise like that - every year. Hell, Terry Allen has proved more than Ron.
It's been one year....fine, I'll wait to "judge" him. But he hasn't proven @#%$ to me yet.
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I am with you all regarding sealing up the borders, but really - our recruiting class is still heads and shoulders better than Gay U. Ask yourself this, my freinds in Wildcat nation - who would you want more, our starting QB or Gay U's? I love getting the crop from out of a small town (Cimmaron, KS) - but as long as we still have better recruits, I dont care who wins the might battle of KS. The last great player to be drafted into the NFL from KS was Terrance Newman, a two star recruit from Salina, KS who WE took from Gay U. I believe that Fat ManGino's days are numbered at Gay U anyway. Then, when they have to pay him all of that salary, the AD will be the next to go, the dominos will tumble.
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I am with you all regarding sealing up the borders, but really - our recruiting class is still heads and shoulders better than Gay U. Ask yourself this, my freinds in Wildcat nation - who would you want more, our starting QB or Gay U's? I love getting the crop from out of a small town (Cimmaron, KS) - but as long as we still have better recruits, I dont care who wins the might battle of KS. The last great player to be drafted into the NFL from KS was Terrance Newman, a two star recruit from Salina, KS who WE took from Gay U. I believe that Fat ManGino's days are numbered at Gay U anyway. Then, when they have to pay him all of that salary, the AD will be the next to go, the dominos will tumble.
But to land a guy like Brown would be immense. It would solidify us as an actual viable threat in the big12. I think Mangino has a couple more years.
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I am with you all regarding sealing up the borders, but really - our recruiting class is still heads and shoulders better than Gay U. Ask yourself this, my freinds in Wildcat nation - who would you want more, our starting QB or Gay U's? I love getting the crop from out of a small town (Cimmaron, KS) - but as long as we still have better recruits, I dont care who wins the might battle of KS. The last great player to be drafted into the NFL from KS was Terrance Newman, a two star recruit from Salina, KS who WE took from Gay U. I believe that Fat ManGino's days are numbered at Gay U anyway. Then, when they have to pay him all of that salary, the AD will be the next to go, the dominos will tumble.
But to land a guy like Brown would be immense. It would solidify us as an actual viable threat in the big12. I think Mangino has a couple more years.
Just be patient, wait til August.
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I am with you all regarding sealing up the borders, but really - our recruiting class is still heads and shoulders better than Gay U. Ask yourself this, my freinds in Wildcat nation - who would you want more, our starting QB or Gay U's? I love getting the crop from out of a small town (Cimmaron, KS) - but as long as we still have better recruits, I dont care who wins the might battle of KS. The last great player to be drafted into the NFL from KS was Terrance Newman, a two star recruit from Salina, KS who WE took from Gay U. I believe that Fat ManGino's days are numbered at Gay U anyway. Then, when they have to pay him all of that salary, the AD will be the next to go, the dominos will tumble.
But to land a guy like Brown would be immense. It would solidify us as an actual viable threat in the big12. I think Mangino has a couple more years.
Just be patient, wait til August.
I really want to believe you, but I'll wait until he suits up. Maybe I'll be convinced when he inks.
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I am with you all regarding sealing up the borders, but really - our recruiting class is still heads and shoulders better than Gay U. Ask yourself this, my freinds in Wildcat nation - who would you want more, our starting QB or Gay U's? I love getting the crop from out of a small town (Cimmaron, KS) - but as long as we still have better recruits, I dont care who wins the might battle of KS. The last great player to be drafted into the NFL from KS was Terrance Newman, a two star recruit from Salina, KS who WE took from Gay U. I believe that Fat ManGino's days are numbered at Gay U anyway. Then, when they have to pay him all of that salary, the AD will be the next to go, the dominos will tumble.
But to land a guy like Brown would be immense. It would solidify us as an actual viable threat in the big12. I think Mangino has a couple more years.
Just be patient, wait til August.
I really want to believe you, but I'll wait until he suits up. Maybe I'll be convinced when he inks.
Just remember that I was the one to tell you about it.
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I am with you all regarding sealing up the borders, but really - our recruiting class is still heads and shoulders better than Gay U. Ask yourself this, my freinds in Wildcat nation - who would you want more, our starting QB or Gay U's? I love getting the crop from out of a small town (Cimmaron, KS) - but as long as we still have better recruits, I dont care who wins the might battle of KS. The last great player to be drafted into the NFL from KS was Terrance Newman, a two star recruit from Salina, KS who WE took from Gay U. I believe that Fat ManGino's days are numbered at Gay U anyway. Then, when they have to pay him all of that salary, the AD will be the next to go, the dominos will tumble.
But to land a guy like Brown would be immense. It would solidify us as an actual viable threat in the big12. I think Mangino has a couple more years.
Just be patient, wait til August.
I really want to believe you, but I'll wait until he suits up. Maybe I'll be convinced when he inks.
Just remember that I was the one to tell you about it.
Can you PM me your sources?
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"But to land a guy like Brown would be immense. It would solidify us as an actual viable threat in the big12. I think Mangino has a couple more years"
one or 2 of those guys per recruiting class aint gonna get it done
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Arthur will commit in August. We have no idea with Harper. Hawkinson will probably end up at Ga Tech and Zlatnik will end up at ku if a better out of state school doesn't offer.
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0-1 so far. Hawkinson is headed to ku
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"But to land a guy like Brown would be immense. It would solidify us as an actual viable threat in the big12. I think Mangino has a couple more years"
one or 2 of those guys per recruiting class aint gonna get it done
Nebraska doesn't have anyone like Arthur Brown in their class. Don't kid yourself.
Arthur will commit in August. We have no idea with Harper. Hawkinson will probably end up at Ga Tech and Zlatnik will end up at ku if a better out of state school doesn't offer.
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0-1 so far. Hawkinson is headed to ku
Notice I said "probably". It's safe to say that the kid is an idiot for choosing ku over Georgia Tech.
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"But to land a guy like Brown would be immense. It would solidify us as an actual viable threat in the big12. I think Mangino has a couple more years"
one or 2 of those guys per recruiting class aint gonna get it done
Nebraska doesn't have anyone like Arthur Brown in their class. Don't kid yourself.
Arthur will commit in August. We have no idea with Harper. Hawkinson will probably end up at Ga Tech and Zlatnik will end up at ku if a better out of state school doesn't offer.
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0-1 so far. Hawkinson is headed to ku
Notice I said "probably". It's safe to say that the kid is an idiot for choosing ku over Georgia Tech.
Funny thing is its safe to say a kid choosing ku over Washburn is an idiot :nutkick:
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I think he's going to be good. To do what he did last year with taking our team to a bowl game in a year when we were predicted to be last place in the Big12, I'd say he deserved a few more years of support.
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I think he's going to be good. To do what he did last year with taking our team to a bowl game in a year when we were predicted to be last place in the Big12, I'd say he deserved a few more years of support.
No one is kicking him under the rug yet, we're just saying he can't recruit that well and especially in state...
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Josh Freeman, Rob Jackson (KS.) Leon Patton.