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Title: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: Pett on May 27, 2007, 04:40:03 PM
KSU 6'5" TE commit Cooper Bassett or top 3 Player in Kansas with a heavy lean to ku, Tanner Hawkinson. Which is going to be a better D-1 TE????


BTW. Rivals has Hawkinson ahead of Harper in top Kansas HS players. What a joke!!!


Discuss.
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: konofo on May 27, 2007, 04:45:22 PM
BTW. Rivals has Hawkinson ahead of Harper in top Kansas HS players. What a joke!!!

They're just in awe of his stylin' hairdo.

kono
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: ksuno1stunner on May 27, 2007, 04:50:03 PM
It is a shame that they'll probably put Hawkinson higher than Harper.  Harper is a big time athlete.

Cooper Bassett is getting some damn good offers, ku offered him and they already have Hawkinson all but locked up.  Apparently LSU will offer him too.
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: waks on May 27, 2007, 04:59:35 PM
Bassett is easily better than Hawkinson. Crabby even thinks so. Hawkinson is probally the fourth best athlete in Kansas behind Arthur, Harper, and Reed. Harper has offers from top programs like Cal, Notre Dame, and Michigan and Reed has several offers including Nebraska, K-State, Missouri, and Colorado. All Hawkinson has are offers from Colorado State, Kansas, Georgia Tech (I can't figure out why), and Oklahoma State. Rivals will just put Hawkinson as second so it looks like they aren't showing a biased towards Kansas State.
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: Sandman on May 27, 2007, 05:06:41 PM
Bassett is easily better than Hawkinson. Crabby even thinks so. Hawkinson is probally the fourth best athlete in Kansas behind Arthur, Harper, and Reed. Harper has offers from top programs like Cal, Notre Dame, and Michigan and Reed has several offers including Nebraska, K-State, Missouri, and Colorado. All Hawkinson has are offers from Colorado State, Kansas, Georgia Tech (I can't figure out why), and Oklahoma State. Rivals will just put Hawkinson as second so it looks like they aren't showing a biased towards Kansas State.

Yes.  It's all a conspiracy.
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: waks on May 27, 2007, 05:23:50 PM
Not necessarily that. It is just blatantly obvious who the more talented athletes are (those athletes being Arthur, Harper, and Reed). You're an idiot if you cannot realize that Reed and Harper are both more talented than Hawkinson. In addition to that, they play better competition. Hawkinson plays in 4A while Harper and Reed both play 5A ball.
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: ksuno1stunner on May 27, 2007, 05:49:15 PM
Not necessarily that. It is just blatantly obvious who the more talented athletes are (those athletes being Arthur, Harper, and Reed). You're an idiot if you cannot realize that Reed and Harper are both more talented than Hawkinson. In addition to that, they play better competition. Hawkinson plays in 4A while Harper and Reed both play 5A ball.

Harper plays 6A.
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: konofo on May 27, 2007, 06:21:12 PM
Not necessarily that. It is just blatantly obvious who the more talented athletes are (those athletes being Arthur, Harper, and Reed). You're an idiot if you cannot realize that Reed and Harper are both more talented than Hawkinson. In addition to that, they play better competition. Hawkinson plays in 4A while Harper and Reed both play 5A ball.

Wait, McPherson dropped to 4A?  I know their FB program sucked for-f'n-ever, but I could have sworn they were runners-up in the 5A BB tourney this year.

kono
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: waks on May 27, 2007, 06:40:22 PM
Not necessarily that. It is just blatantly obvious who the more talented athletes are (those athletes being Arthur, Harper, and Reed). You're an idiot if you cannot realize that Reed and Harper are both more talented than Hawkinson. In addition to that, they play better competition. Hawkinson plays in 4A while Harper and Reed both play 5A ball.

Wait, McPherson dropped to 4A?  I know their FB program sucked for-f'n-ever, but I could have sworn they were runners-up in the 5A BB tourney this year.

kono
You're right, I was thinking Marysville. Regardless, Harper plays 6A and Reed plays at St. Thomas Aquinas. While the other kid plays in McPherson. Who would you pick?
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: Sandman on May 27, 2007, 06:45:00 PM
Not necessarily that. It is just blatantly obvious who the more talented athletes are (those athletes being Arthur, Harper, and Reed). You're an idiot if you cannot realize that Reed and Harper are both more talented than Hawkinson. In addition to that, they play better competition. Hawkinson plays in 4A while Harper and Reed both play 5A ball.

Then you are calling the folks at Rivals idiots.  More talented athlete does not necessarily equal a better football player.  I have little doubt that Harper may be a better "athlete", but there are more than a few folks who Hawkinson as a better player.  Marvin Simmons was a talented athlete, but Nick Reid was a better football player.  Byron Gassaway was a talented athlete, but Darnell McDonald was a better football player.  There are numerous other examples.  But there is a reason folks have Hawkinson rated higher, and I honestly don't think it's a conspiracy or stupidity as you insinuate.
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: waks on May 27, 2007, 06:49:08 PM
I'm going off of scholarship offers. Reed and Harper have much more impressive offers. Obviously D1 coaches (the ones that would know best) think that Harper and Reed are better than Hawkinson. They also seem to think Bassett is better than Hawkinson. So in this case, yes, Rivals is probably wrong. But you can stick to your beloved stars system and recruiting rankings.
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: Legore on May 27, 2007, 08:40:55 PM
Not sure who is better between Hawkinson and Bassett I think both are good players should be high 3 star type of kids.  Harper should be rated higher then Hawkinson though and that isn't a knock on Hawkinson but Harper is a 4 star type talent.  He's just a rare athlete and he's getting recruited nationally by some of the very best programs. 
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: WildFan101 on May 28, 2007, 12:59:05 PM
I don't follow ku recruiting so I haven't heard much about Hawkinson, butI thought Bassett was a lock for a 4 star.
Title: Re: Better D-1 TE: Hawkinson or Bassett?????
Post by: ksuno1stunner on May 28, 2007, 04:06:11 PM
I don't follow ku recruiting so I haven't heard much about Hawkinson, butI thought Bassett was a lock for a 4 star.

If OU and LSU offer, he probably should be.