Topic: Hey guys
I've run into some trouble financially. I consider many of you friends so if you could help me out, I set up a paypal account. The account is under ksustunner1. Please help me any way you can.
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I've run into some trouble financially. I consider many of you friends so if you could help me out, I set up a paypal account. The account is under ksustunner1. Please help me any way you can.
FYI,
The betting amount of $111.11 is what you'd get if you bet $100.00 on the line. So when you put up your $100.00 you win $111.11 or you're up $11.11
If you lose, you're out your $100.00.
If you lose, you're out your $100.00.
So I'm risking $100.00 for $11.11? That doesn't make any sense.
Stunner, let's say you have 100 dollars. You bet that 100 dollars on the game and with the odds you would win 111.11. You win. You get your 100 dollars back, plus the 111.11 that you won. So now you have $211.11 in your bank account.
Stunner, let's say you have 100 dollars. You bet that 100 dollars on the game and with the odds you would win 111.11. You win. You get your 100 dollars back, plus the 111.11 that you won. So now you have $211.11 in your bank account.
Outcome Run Line Total Money Line CHICAGO N: R HILL +1.5
-160OVER 6.5
-120+158 SAN DIEGO: J PEAVY -1.5
+140UNDER 6.5
EVEN-170
Here's my site's offerings for tonight's Cub game.Quote
Outcome Run Line Total Money Line CHICAGO N: R HILL +1.5
-160OVER 6.5
-120+158 SAN DIEGO: J PEAVY -1.5
+140UNDER 6.5
EVEN-170
Peavy is very strong so far this year, Rich Hill has had a rough month (especially on the road), and the Cubs flat out stink on their annual West coast swing. So I'm putting 30 on the Pods to win by 2. That's +140, so I risk 30 to net 42.
Tell you what, you post your mock bets all summer, and I'll post my actual ones, and we'll see who has more actual dough at the end. :blindfold:
kono
His letdown was last time out, when he only struck out 5 after getting 16, 10, 10, and 10 in the previous four. And I don't really like the over at Petco. It feels like a 4-1 kind of night.
kono
I think we should do a little betting tournament for football.
Everyone starts off with say 1000 classless bucks and everyone has a chance to make their wager. Those kinds of things are fun to do.
So, like how does the bookie get money then? You win and lose one, and you're up 10 bucks.
So, like how does the bookie get money then? You win and lose one, and you're up 10 bucks.
Here's the deal. If you bet the spread you are betting straight up 111.11 to win 111.11. In this instance you took the Yankees, and gave the Red Sox a 1.5 run lead off the bat. So the Yankees have to win by 2, obviously. They lost by 4 so you're down 111.11. The bookie doesn't make a percentage or anything.
Or next to the spread there is normally a (-125) or a (+105), (differs for each game). This is the money line for betting straight up. The (-125) was the Red Sox tonight. Therefore if you throw down 100 even up on the red sox without taking the runs you are throwing down $100 to win $125. But if you take the Yankees straight up the (+105) means you must bet 105 to win 100. The bookies feel the Yankees are the favorite but you are betting straight up, so you must wager more money.
The bookie doesn't make a percentage or anything. They make money because most people lose more often than they win.
So, like how does the bookie get money then? You win and lose one, and you're up 10 bucks.
Here's the deal. If you bet the spread you are betting straight up 111.11 to win 111.11. In this instance you took the Yankees, and gave the Red Sox a 1.5 run lead off the bat. So the Yankees have to win by 2, obviously. They lost by 4 so you're down 111.11. The bookie doesn't make a percentage or anything.
Or next to the spread there is normally a (-125) or a (+105), (differs for each game). This is the money line for betting straight up. The (-125) was the Red Sox tonight. Therefore if you throw down 100 even up on the red sox without taking the runs you are throwing down $100 to win $125. But if you take the Yankees straight up the (+105) means you must bet 105 to win 100. The bookies feel the Yankees are the favorite but you are betting straight up, so you must wager more money.
The bookie doesn't make a percentage or anything. They make money because most people lose more often than they win.
By betting the spread, doesn't that beat any advantage the bookie has?
So, like how does the bookie get money then? You win and lose one, and you're up 10 bucks.
Here's the deal. If you bet the spread you are betting straight up 111.11 to win 111.11. In this instance you took the Yankees, and gave the Red Sox a 1.5 run lead off the bat. So the Yankees have to win by 2, obviously. They lost by 4 so you're down 111.11. The bookie doesn't make a percentage or anything.
Or next to the spread there is normally a (-125) or a (+105), (differs for each game). This is the money line for betting straight up. The (-125) was the Red Sox tonight. Therefore if you throw down 100 even up on the red sox without taking the runs you are throwing down $100 to win $125. But if you take the Yankees straight up the (+105) means you must bet 105 to win 100. The bookies feel the Yankees are the favorite but you are betting straight up, so you must wager more money.
The bookie doesn't make a percentage or anything. They make money because most people lose more often than they win.
By betting the spread, doesn't that beat any advantage the bookie has?
No, because the spread is their advantage. They make the spreads to take away an obvious favorite. Basically they try to make it a toss up. In which the average better loses more often than not.
No, since you bet the spread tonight you bet 111.11 to win 111.11. The "bookie fee" when betting the spread is the 1.5 runs you gave them before the game started.
No, since you bet the spread tonight you bet 111.11 to win 111.11. The "bookie fee" when betting the spread is the 1.5 runs you gave them before the game started.
Oh ok. So my winning percentage goes from 50% to probably 40%. Damn. I'd rather pay the bookie fee.
And I would parlay it with the over.It feels like a 4-1 kind of night.
Outcome Run Line CHICAGO N: R HILL +1.5
-160SAN DIEGO: J PEAVY -1.5
+140
Here's the deal. If you bet the spread you are betting straight up 111.11 to win 111.11. In this instance you took the Yankees, and gave the Red Sox a 1.5 run lead off the bat. So the Yankees have to win by 2, obviously. They lost by 4 so you're down 111.11. The bookie doesn't make a percentage or anything.
Or next to the spread there is normally a (-125) or a (+105), (differs for each game). This is the money line for betting straight up. The (-125) was the Red Sox tonight. Therefore if you throw down 100 even up on the red sox without taking the runs you are throwing down $100 to win $125. But if you take the Yankees straight up the (+105) means you must bet 105 to win 100. The bookies feel the Yankees are the favorite but you are betting straight up, so you must wager more money.
Outcome Run Line Money Line Boston (Tavarez) +1.5
-125+152 New York (Mussina) -1.5
+105-167
Minnesota Twins
Boof Bonser (R)+1½
(-180)+111 Texas Rangers
Robinson Tejeda (R)-1½
(+160)-121
Again, baseball betting isn't like football. That +1.5 is the run line. It isn't like a football spread, where you can expect a roughly 1:1 payout on either side. Wherever you're getting your lines from, notice that every game has a +1.5 and -1.5? The important numbers are the +/- three-digit numbers next to them. Here's Bodog's lines for this game:Quote
Minnesota Twins
Boof Bonser (R)+1½
(-180)+111 Texas Rangers
Robinson Tejeda (R)-1½
(+160)-121
The bold number is the run line, the underlined number is the money line (straight up victory, no points given).
That means, if you're betting Minnesota +1.5, it takes a $180 risk to net $100. Your $200 bet will net you $111.11 if you win.
If you're betting Minnesota outright, your $200 bet will net $222 instead.
kono
Date --- Game/Spread ---- Pick ---- Result ------ Bet ------ W/L ---- W/L Record ----- Cost ------ Running Cost ------ Winnings --------- Net --
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5/22 Bos@NYY(-1.5) NYY 7-3 $100.00 L 0-1 -$100 -$100 $0 -$100
5/23 Minn@Tex(-1.5) Minn $200.00 W 1-1 -$100 -$200 $422 +$122
Again, baseball betting isn't like football. That +1.5 is the run line. It isn't like a football spread, where you can expect a roughly 1:1 payout on either side. Wherever you're getting your lines from, notice that every game has a +1.5 and -1.5? The important numbers are the +/- three-digit numbers next to them. Here's Bodog's lines for this game:Quote
Minnesota Twins
Boof Bonser (R)+1½
(-180)+111 Texas Rangers
Robinson Tejeda (R)-1½
(+160)-121
The bold number is the run line, the underlined number is the money line (straight up victory, no points given).
That means, if you're betting Minnesota +1.5, it takes a $180 risk to net $100. Your $200 bet will net you $111.11 if you win.
If you're betting Minnesota outright, your $200 bet will net $222 instead.
kono
Date --- Game/Spread ---- Pick ---- Result ------ Bet ------ W/L ---- W/L Record ----- Cost ------ Running Cost ------ Winnings --------- Net --
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5/22 Bos@NYY(-1.5) NYY 7-3 $100.00 L 0-1 -$100 -$100 $0 -$100
5/23 Minn@Tex(-1.5) Minn $200.00 W 1-1 -$100 -$200 $422 +$122
OMG Stunner this crap is easy, dude you're a natural. Screw the mock gambling you're wasting time/money!!
If you had wanted the Rangers outright, it would have cost $121 to net $100, so $200 would net $165. (Except the Rangers lost.) (200/121)*100 ~= 165.Quote
Minnesota Twins
Boof Bonser (R)+1½
(-180)+111 Texas Rangers
Robinson Tejeda (R)-1½
(+160)-121
So if I bet on the favorite outright, would the $200 bet net $178 if I won?
Also, it sounds like you know what you're talking about regarding picks. In your opinion, would having somebody with baseball knowledge and using the Martingale method work out, even in the long run?
CHICAGO N: S MARSHALL +1.5
-200OVER 8.5
-110+112 SAN DEIGO: D WELLS -1.5
+170UNDER 8.5
-110-120
You're killing me. Angels are +140 to win outright, but that won't matter, because they're already down 6-0.
I'll take Glavine over Smoltz tonight (+123), 20 to win 24.60.
kono
That is some confusing @#%$.
kono is doing a good job of explaining it, but it's still confusing.
Terrible bet with the Mets. The Braves own Glavine. Look at his career stats against them. And Smoltz is pitching unbelievable right now. Godd@mmit I HATE the Mets!!!!!!
Sorry Kono, I'm hoping you lose tonight. :tongue:
Betting $440 on Oakland.
Money Lines:
NEW YORK N: O HERNANDEZ (-133)
ATLANTA: T HUDSON (-160)
BOTH: +184.68 (20 to net 36.94)
Run Lines:
NEW YORK N: O HERNANDEZ -1.5 (+120)
ATLANTA: T HUDSON -1.5 (+125)
BOTH: +395 (10 to net 39.50)
CHICAGO N: C ZAMBRANO (-120) CHICAGO N
OVER 8.0 (-125) CHICAGO N
BOTH: +230 (20 to win 46.00)
ATLANTA: B CARLYLE (EVEN) (10 to win 10)
I can make the Braves loseQFE.
MILWAukEE: C VARGAS +105 (20 to win 21)
ST LOUIS: WAINWRIGHT -1.5 (+115)20 to win 23.
ATLANTA: K DAVIES (+112)10 to win 11.20. Or to just lose 10.
Please stop betting on the Braves.... :crybaby:
I'll start paying you ten bucks a day to bet on the Mets though :shy:
You're counting it a win in the bottom of the 8th? Detroit has to score one run in 2 innings for you to lose :confused:
just curious, stunner have you found a job yet? I'm going to bet $110 on No.
ATLANTA: C JAMES (+118)30 to win 35.40
Lets try this again.....
You say you are betting 100 dollars on the Reds. Are you betting the Reds to cover the spread or to win outright. You have to be clear.
FLORIDA AT CHICAGO N: OVER 9.5 (EVEN) 20 for 20
SAN DIEGO: D WELLS (+120) 10 for 12
FLORIDA AT CHICAGO N: UNDER 10.0 (-105)
NEW YORK N: O HERNANDEZ -1.5 (+150)
Cavs upset paying +210
I think that would be the farthest from the truth. Holy crap!Cavs upset paying +210
Scratch that, line just moved to +240. Did LeBron announce he's taking the night off, or what? :confused:
kono
ATLANTA: K DAVIES (+151)
ST LOUIS: K WELLS (+130)
Week: +104.27
Total: +29.27
I think I'll go ahead and wrap this up, since Dr. Stunner has apparently proven us all wrong already and gone home, I guess. As for me, I had fun trying to justify some awful bets, and found that I should probably stick to basketball. I managed to miss seven straight picks last weekend, which, under his system, would have had me needing around 1200 to break even on the eighth bet. It'll take a couple more Cavs wins before I have that kind of cushion to play with. ;)
kono