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Title: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: The Manhatter on May 18, 2007, 10:41:28 AM
do any of you think it's possible we want this kid as a 2?  I was watching the new highlights that came out fairly recent and he appears to have some range on his shot and I was amazed at how well he dribble drives.  The kid has great acceleration w/ the ball driving to the hoop for such a tall, slender dude.

thoughts?

Maybe he's just a 3 who could possibly be developing into a player who could play the 2?

I apologize in advance for me low BBIQ.

Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: ECN on May 18, 2007, 10:45:35 AM
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As you came through the door, No one glared.

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All hands look out below, there's a change in the status quo.
Gonna need all the help that we can get.

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We just might live the good life yet.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2007, 10:45:57 AM
I'm all for having 3's (and 4's, and 5's for that matter) with range and ball handling ability.  The question is who he can defend.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: chum1 on May 18, 2007, 10:50:14 AM
We're probably taking about anyone we can get at this point.  It's really no different than football.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: yosh on May 18, 2007, 10:54:38 AM
I've actually considered the possibility that they want him for a 1.  There is a chance that they see him as a Penny Hardaway type of player.  His AAU team is stacked with frontcourt talent and Witherspoon occasionally runs the point.  Here's a excerpt from a rivals article:

Wesley Witherspoon might be the second best long term prospect on the Stars roster. The 6-foot-8 point forward is very skilled for his position. His ball-handling skills are point guard like as are some of his passes both in the half court and in transition.

There were times when Witherspoon manned the point to go along with the towering front line. He looked comfortable at the position and could very well man that spot this spring. The Berkmar High School product has a number of schools on him already and is holding a good amount of offers to date. He spoke highly of the opportunity of playing with his brother Wynton at George Washington.


http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=889&CID=654078

It might be a somewhat of a longshot, but it's interesting to think about.  Don't be so hard on your BBIQ.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2007, 10:57:09 AM
I should add that if we think there's any chance we would use him at the 2 and think it might help if WW thinks we will, we need to sell it like crazy.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 18, 2007, 11:00:55 AM
So basically he's the next Ju-Ju.   :peek:
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: sys on May 18, 2007, 11:04:37 AM
there is basically nothing better than a 2 that can handle the ball well enough to be called a 1 and is long enough to be called a 3.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2007, 11:07:08 AM
there is basically nothing better than a 2 that can handle the ball well enough to be called a 1 and is long enough to be called a 3.

One w/ the strength/skill to play the 4?
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: The Manhatter on May 18, 2007, 11:07:33 AM
thanks yosh.  That seems to make sense as far as the point forward tag.  He looked so comfortable and natural driving to the basket in a few of those videos..much moreso than most of the classified 3's appear in the vids.

The Penny Hardaway idea is intriguing and let's hope Frank Martin adds a Neon Bodeaux too.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: sys on May 18, 2007, 11:08:58 AM
One w/ the strength/skill to play the 4?

be easy?
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2007, 11:10:54 AM
One w/ the strength/skill to play the 4?

be easy?

He's more of a 2-5.

:hope:
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: chum1 on May 18, 2007, 11:13:06 AM
ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS WOULD BE SOLVED IF WE JUST WENT OUT AND RECRUITED FIVE MICHAEL JORDANS.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2007, 11:14:12 AM
ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS WOULD BE SOLVED IF WE JUST WENT OUT AND RECRUITED FIVE MICHAEL JORDANS.

I don't know.  Will all of his shots be layups?
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: pissclams on May 18, 2007, 11:16:39 AM
ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS WOULD BE SOLVED IF WE JUST WENT OUT AND RECRUITED FIVE MICHAEL JORDANS.

way too many 2's
we need a 1
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: sys on May 18, 2007, 11:18:19 AM
way too many 2's
we need a 1

i'm guessing 9 of 10 powertards would prefer a roster made entirely of 1s and 5s.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 18, 2007, 11:20:05 AM
way too many 2's
we need a 1

i'm guessing 9 of 10 powertards would prefer a roster made entirely of 1s and 5s.

WE NEED A TRUE CENTER!  SOMEONE WHO CAN GET IT DONE IN THE PIVOT!
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: pissclams on May 18, 2007, 11:20:28 AM
way too many 2's
we need a 1

i'm guessing 9 of 10 powertards would prefer a roster made entirely of 1s and 5s.

whatever, they got lucky thinking that way
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: yosh on May 18, 2007, 11:20:46 AM
thanks yosh.  That seems to make sense as far as the point forward tag.  He looked so comfortable and natural driving to the basket in a few of those videos..much moreso than most of the classified 3's appear in the vids.

The Penny Hardaway idea is intriguing and let's hope Frank Martin adds a Neon Bodeaux too.

The other thing that adds to my theory is that we don't seem to be going after any PGs even though we lose 2.  My current fantasy line-up for 08-09 is:

1. Witherspoon-Pullen
2. Sutton-Shipman
3. Walker-Dubovitzsky
4. Beasley-Samuels
5. Kadji-Colon

A guy can dream can't he?... :love:
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: WildWillie21 on May 18, 2007, 11:23:24 AM
ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS WOULD BE SOLVED IF WE JUST WENT OUT AND RECRUITED FIVE MICHAEL JORDANS.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=56772#ticker (http://kansasstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=56772#ticker)
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: The Manhatter on May 18, 2007, 11:23:46 AM
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WE NEED A TRUE CENTER!  SOMEONE WHO CAN GET IT DONE IN THE PIVOT!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/History_mikan.jpg)
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 18, 2007, 11:25:16 AM
Both Beasley and Walker back in 08-09 = not good things for 07-08 IMO*.  

*See ku 05-06.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: chum1 on May 18, 2007, 11:26:51 AM
i'm guessing 9 of 10 powertards would prefer a roster made entirely of 1s and 5s.

This is in contrast to GPC West's notion of an ideal team consisting only of 3s.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: The Manhatter on May 18, 2007, 11:27:01 AM
Quote
1. Witherspoon-Pullen
2. Sutton-Shipman
3. Walker-Dubovitzsky (wtf?)
4. Beasley-Samuels
5. Kadji-Colon

hmm..Samuels doesn't strike me as a 4.  More like a 3.25 or possibly even 3.33

Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2007, 11:27:52 AM
No video exists for Brown, but the coaches might consider him a 1.  Or, they might subscribe to Rusty's "bigs" and "smalls" positions theory.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 18, 2007, 11:29:20 AM
No video exists for Brown, but the coaches might consider him a 1.  Or, they might subscribe to Rusty's "bigs" and "smalls" positions theory.

His coach said he played PG most of the time this year.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: yosh on May 18, 2007, 11:44:18 AM
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1. Witherspoon-Pullen
2. Sutton-Shipman
3. Walker-Dubovitzsky (wtf?)
4. Beasley-Samuels
5. Kadji-Colon

hmm..Samuels doesn't strike me as a 4.  More like a 3.25 or possibly even 3.33



Dubo is still a possibility per the Star and Eagle.  Slim possibility I'm sure, but I put him in there anyway.  Samuels, according to everything I have read, is an undersized 4.  He's a monster rebounder...he'll need some time in the weight room, but he's definitely a lot more comfortable in the paint than out on the perimeter.
Title: Re: me BBIQ is crap so help me out on Witherspoon..
Post by: yosh on May 18, 2007, 11:46:17 AM
Both Beasley and Walker back in 08-09 = not good things for 07-08 IMO*.  

*See ku 05-06.

meh...all the Florida players came back for this year.  You never know.