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Title: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 16, 2006, 01:15:55 AM
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/sports/colleges/kansas_state_university/14352890.htm
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 16, 2006, 09:08:24 AM
Yeah ... those Missouri All-State, All-Metro kids typically suck.

Geezus Fatty.
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: mjrod on April 16, 2006, 01:26:49 PM
fatty is trolling.  He does this all the time.  It's just best to ignore him.

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on April 16, 2006, 03:52:35 PM
fatty is trolling.  He does this all the time.  It's just best to ignore the abysmal recruiting being done by our new head coach.


fixed
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 16, 2006, 06:06:29 PM
Golddick ... I suggest you read up on D'Brickashaw Ferguson, his status as a high school recruit and where he is now.

Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: Fausto on April 16, 2006, 07:28:36 PM
Obviously Aufner is not on fatty's Missouri Top 10.  Where are those state-by-state rankings?

I'll give the kid one thing without knowing anything more about him...he has an OL name.
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 17, 2006, 06:46:58 AM
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Yeah ... those Missouri All-State, All-Metro kids typically suck.

Geezus Fatty.


Any HS athlete has some sort of honor. I'm sure all of Baylor's recruits are "5A district B All-State!!"

BFD. Give me stars. Give me other schools offering the kid, then I'll be impressed.

You don't fill a class with "hidden gems" which seems like we are doing. It's embarrassing. If ku was doing this I'd have a field day with them.
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2006, 06:54:02 AM
The Terrence Newman/Jordy Nelson arguments get f'ing old.  There's a ton of KS kids we've given schollies too that haven't done anything.  (Alsup and Anders come to mind immediately).

I'm not sure I'm agreeing with this "inside-out" recruiting, especially when tyou aren't getting the good recruits from the "inside".
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 17, 2006, 06:57:30 AM
It has nothing to do with "Kansas" kids. My beef is we have guys commiting because they have NO OTHER OPTIONS.

I'd be exstatic (sp?) if we land Reed, Lawrence, Keck, palmgreen.....but outside of Keck...those look bleak.

ku has 2 commits...BOTH were offered by KSU. Makes me sick that ku is now getting the better recruits.
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 17, 2006, 07:37:58 AM
cynics
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: mjrod on April 17, 2006, 08:46:28 AM
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Yeah ... those Missouri All-State, All-Metro kids typically suck.

Geezus Fatty.


Any HS athlete has some sort of honor. I'm sure all of Baylor's recruits are "5A district B All-State!!"

BFD. Give me stars. Give me other schools offering the kid, then I'll be impressed.

You don't fill a class with "hidden gems" which seems like we are doing. It's embarrassing. If ku was doing this I'd have a field day with them.

The "STARS = IMMEDIATE IMPACT" argument.

:jerkoff:
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 17, 2006, 08:49:56 AM
Look at the recruiting rankings for the last 10 years.

Tell me if you see some sort of correlation between success and stars.
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2006, 08:52:27 AM
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Yeah ... those Missouri All-State, All-Metro kids typically suck.

Geezus Fatty.


Any HS athlete has some sort of honor. I'm sure all of Baylor's recruits are "5A district B All-State!!"

BFD. Give me stars. Give me other schools offering the kid, then I'll be impressed.

You don't fill a class with "hidden gems" which seems like we are doing. It's embarrassing. If ku was doing this I'd have a field day with them.

The "STARS = IMMEDIATE IMPACT" argument.

:jerkoff:


It has nothing to do with "immediate impact".  It has to do with the fact that higher rated players are more likely to succeed than lower rated players.  KSU fans disputing this fact is both laughable and sad at the same time.
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: Dan Rydell on April 17, 2006, 09:08:15 AM
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KSU fans disputing this fact is both laughable and sad at the same time.

Especially when we're trumpeting it in basketball.
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 17, 2006, 09:14:08 AM
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KSU fans disputing this fact is both laughable and sad at the same time.

Especially when we're trumpeting it in basketball.

As we should.
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: Fausto on April 17, 2006, 10:42:51 AM
The real story in this article is completely overlooked.

On Seiler...

"He is lining up at defensive tackle for the duration of the spring so he can get acclimated. He'll play there and at defensive end, his original position, when September rolls around."

Seiler was starting at DE last year because of a lack of recruiting at that position in the last few years.  They just didn't have bodies.  Now they are moving Seiler in to play DT?  That spells w-e-a-k-n-e-s-s at that position too.

That is what is really hurting this program.  Not accepting commitment from all-state all-metro kids from KC. 

Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2006, 11:02:26 AM
The real story in this article is completely overlooked.

On Seiler...

"He is lining up at defensive tackle for the duration of the spring so he can get acclimated. He'll play there and at defensive end, his original position, when September rolls around."

Seiler was starting at DE last year because of a lack of recruiting at that position in the last few years. They just didn't have bodies. Now they are moving Seiler in to play DT? That spells w-e-a-k-n-e-s-s at that position too.

That is what is really hurting this program. Not accepting commitment from all-state all-metro kids from KC.



That hurts us now (and it's scary as hell).  Stealing 2007 recruits away from Kansas Weslyan hurts us in 3 or 4 years.
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: michigancat on April 17, 2006, 12:09:17 PM
Jeff Martin pretty much says Prince and his staff are "ahead of the curve".

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/sports/colleges/kansas_state_university/qa_forum.html?forumId=412
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: Dan Rydell on April 17, 2006, 12:21:04 PM
Uh, oh, fatty.  How are you going to reconcile your love of Jeffrey Martin with your hatred of Prince's recruiting?

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: Skycat on April 17, 2006, 04:00:05 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: mjrod on April 17, 2006, 04:09:13 PM
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Yeah ... those Missouri All-State, All-Metro kids typically suck.

Geezus Fatty.


Any HS athlete has some sort of honor. I'm sure all of Baylor's recruits are "5A district B All-State!!"

BFD. Give me stars. Give me other schools offering the kid, then I'll be impressed.

You don't fill a class with "hidden gems" which seems like we are doing. It's embarrassing. If ku was doing this I'd have a field day with them.

The "STARS = IMMEDIATE IMPACT" argument.

:jerkoff:


It has nothing to do with "immediate impact".  It has to do with the fact that higher rated players are more likely to succeed than lower rated players.  KSU fans disputing this fact is both laughable and sad at the same time.

Really?

Do you really want to go down that road?
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: Wildcat Jack on April 17, 2006, 04:48:19 PM
Don't know if it makes much of a difference but Seniors this year are from the '01 debacle year....that's also the year that the impacts from the coaching defections would've really taken hold.
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on April 17, 2006, 05:38:30 PM
You should load up on easy 1-stars then. Hope for some diamonds.
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: Fausto on April 17, 2006, 09:13:51 PM
"Stealing 2007 recruits away from Kansas Weslyan"

Who?
Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 17, 2006, 09:28:01 PM
Geezus ... if its not bad enough we've got GoldieTard on here.

The Ray-Pec kid is legit D1 the whole way.  I've watched his film, and I am very impressed.  He's got great footwork, already knows how to engage and lock up the defender, he gets up into hole when he's pulling from the weakside and he engages ... he doesn't try to killl the defender thus likely whiffing the whole back ... allowing his back to cut off of him.     

The kid was 1st Team 5A in Missouri as a Junior.

Title: Re: Sweet, another WTF??? recruit
Post by: ksu_FAN on April 18, 2006, 10:19:27 PM
"When it comes to recruiting, I know these guys know what they're doing."