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Title: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: WildWillie21 on May 15, 2007, 05:12:38 PM
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Prospect who is late blooming but coming on. Good looking kid who battled Patrick Patterson better than anyone in the country during the AAU Nationals, according to Patterson's AAU coach. Long, shot blocker and achieving his potential.

Works for me.  :hope:
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: doom on May 15, 2007, 05:22:35 PM
Not a chance.

Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: WildWillie21 on May 15, 2007, 09:38:01 PM
I think there's a good chance, but I'd rather see a 6'5"/6'6" shooter.

Probably won't need him though if LuCo can step up and we can land KenKad.
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: doom on May 15, 2007, 09:59:22 PM
I think there's a good chance, but I'd rather see a 6'5"/6'6" shooter.

Probably won't need him though if LuCo can step up and we can land KenKad.

Not happening.  We can't recruit anone with an LOI and so how could we have convinced him to get a release and sign with us on the last week to sign if we can't even talk to him? 
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: WildWillie21 on May 15, 2007, 10:11:37 PM
I think there's a good chance, but I'd rather see a 6'5"/6'6" shooter.

Probably won't need him though if LuCo can step up and we can land KenKad.

Not happening.  We can't recruit anone with an LOI and so how could we have convinced him to get a release and sign with us on the last week to sign if we can't even talk to him? 

He's already asked for his release because of the shootings. And we have three of his former AAU teamates signed with us who could do a lot of talking.
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: doom on May 16, 2007, 07:07:21 AM
I think there's a good chance, but I'd rather see a 6'5"/6'6" shooter.

Probably won't need him though if LuCo can step up and we can land KenKad.

Not happening.  We can't recruit anone with an LOI and so how could we have convinced him to get a release and sign with us on the last week to sign if we can't even talk to him? 

He's already asked for his release because of the shootings. And we have three of his former AAU teamates signed with us who could do a lot of talking.

As of Monday he hadn't asked for a release,

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/news/story?id=2869739

And who said they'll give him one?
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: waks on May 16, 2007, 07:44:46 AM
It's pretty f'd up if they don't. If he seriously had a big enough problem with the shootings that he wanted out of his LOI then he should be released. And if VaTech refuses to release him then he will just appeal to the NCAA and they will grant him his release because of the shootings.
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on May 16, 2007, 07:51:59 AM
I don't think he'll get his release. I spoke with Curtis Malone yesterday, and he said he felt Gus should honor his letter. His logic was that something like this won't happen again at VaTech, and the incident has brought the community closer and tighter. Malone thought Gus wouldn't be released and that he'd have to go to prep school.
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: yosh on May 16, 2007, 08:02:03 AM
I don't think he'll get his release. I spoke with Curtis Malone yesterday, and he said he felt Gus should honor his letter. His logic was that something like this won't happen again at VaTech, and the incident has brought the community closer and tighter. Malone thought Gus wouldn't be released and that he'd have to go to prep school.

Thanks...I didn't figure they would give him a release.  Perhaps he'll be a possibility for '08.
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: michigancat on May 16, 2007, 08:05:13 AM
I think he should get a release if he asks for it, and I wouldn't really have a problem with him asking, but it sounds like Malone is trying to get him to do the right thing.
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on May 16, 2007, 08:12:48 AM
I agree. Malone said he felt bad for Seth Greenburg, who worked his ass off to get Gilchrist, and then something like this happens that is out of his control. Malone said it wouldn't be right, which I thought was admirable.
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: yosh on May 16, 2007, 08:54:13 AM
I would lean toward not giving him a release if I were the Va Tech AD.  If the guy is in mortal fear and won't be able to sleep at night maybe I'd give it to him after a psyschiatric evaluation and recomendation.  However, he is just saying he doesn't want to go because the campus will be in mourning.  That is a lame, and I suspect untrue, reason.  I wouldn't hold the AD at fault for not releasing.   
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: StocktonCat on May 16, 2007, 08:59:17 AM
If Gilchrist feels he made the wrong decision and doesn't want to be there then it's not a good situation for either the player or school. 
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: michigancat on May 16, 2007, 09:01:37 AM
That is a lame, and I suspect untrue, reason.  I wouldn't hold the AD at fault for not releasing.   

I think that's a very valid reason.  The campus will be completely different from the one he committed to, and you don't know what's going on in his head or what's happened in his life.  Every student that was planning on going to VT should be allowed to reconsider, athletes included. 

Personally, I think honoring his commitment would be the right thing to do and could be very rewarding for him, but I don't blame him one bit for reconsidering.
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: yosh on May 16, 2007, 09:23:01 AM
That is a lame, and I suspect untrue, reason.  I wouldn't hold the AD at fault for not releasing.   

I think that's a very valid reason.  The campus will be completely different from the one he committed to, and you don't know what's going on in his head or what's happened in his life.  Every student that was planning on going to VT should be allowed to reconsider, athletes included. 

Personally, I think honoring his commitment would be the right thing to do and could be very rewarding for him, but I don't blame him one bit for reconsidering.

He's still free to reconsider no matter what.   
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: michigancat on May 16, 2007, 09:34:18 AM
That is a lame, and I suspect untrue, reason.  I wouldn't hold the AD at fault for not releasing.   

I think that's a very valid reason.  The campus will be completely different from the one he committed to, and you don't know what's going on in his head or what's happened in his life.  Every student that was planning on going to VT should be allowed to reconsider, athletes included. 

Personally, I think honoring his commitment would be the right thing to do and could be very rewarding for him, but I don't blame him one bit for reconsidering.

He's still free to reconsider no matter what.   

Not releasing him is basically not letting him reconsider.
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: Poopley on May 16, 2007, 09:38:34 AM
Doesn't the new prep school rule pretty much foobar the whole prep school route for a kid in good academic shape? I guess he could always go to a juco for a year and then to the school of his choice.
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: doom on May 16, 2007, 09:54:52 AM
So can Beasley get out of his letter because he's scared of tornadoes?
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: yosh on May 16, 2007, 09:56:38 AM
That is a lame, and I suspect untrue, reason.  I wouldn't hold the AD at fault for not releasing.   

I think that's a very valid reason.  The campus will be completely different from the one he committed to, and you don't know what's going on in his head or what's happened in his life.  Every student that was planning on going to VT should be allowed to reconsider, athletes included. 

Personally, I think honoring his commitment would be the right thing to do and could be very rewarding for him, but I don't blame him one bit for reconsidering.

He's still free to reconsider no matter what.   

Not releasing him is basically not letting him reconsider.

How so?  He's still free to not attend Va Tech, and he's still free to attend any other school that wants him.  He just can't play D1 basketball for a year.  Worse things have happened.  It's not like he joined the Army during peace time, then tried to back out after a war started.  He has plenty of options with reletively minimal consequences.
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: snart on May 16, 2007, 10:28:38 AM
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It's not like he joined the Army during peace time, then tried to back out after a war started.

Gee.  How could that scenario ever happen?
Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: WildWillie21 on May 16, 2007, 11:44:29 AM
fwiw Gus said he wants out of VTech not because he's scared there'll be another shooting, but because he feels since he wasn't part of it this year he doesn't want to go throught the whole mourning process next year. He doesn't want to have to put up with the attention and the media they'll have following them next year basically. Can't really blame him there.


Title: Re: Gus Gilchrist
Post by: sys on May 16, 2007, 12:00:42 PM
I agree. Malone said he felt bad for Seth Greenburg, who worked his ass off to get Gilchrist, and then something like this happens that is out of his control. Malone said it wouldn't be right, which I thought was admirable.

it may be admirable, but it doesn't help ksu.  as such, i find it hard to support crap like that.