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Title: Rob Jackson
Post by: acceleration_man on May 14, 2007, 02:34:42 PM
Is it just me, or does this boy need some bigger pants??

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Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: pissclams on May 14, 2007, 02:47:38 PM
He needs to take those bracelets off.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: The Manhatter on May 14, 2007, 02:51:56 PM
QB pressure =

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Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: acceleration_man on May 14, 2007, 02:54:38 PM
He needs to take those bracelets off.
That too. Who knows... maybe he's wearing them for a good cause? At any rate, cinch up your baggage!
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 14, 2007, 03:03:04 PM
QB pressure =

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 :lick: :love: :ksu:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: catzacker on May 14, 2007, 03:19:00 PM
Against our o-line, Manhattan High's JV team could get QB pressure. 
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 14, 2007, 03:25:46 PM
Against our o-line, Manhattan High's JV team could get QB pressure. 
:lol:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: coitus on May 14, 2007, 03:32:10 PM
Against our o-line, Manhattan High's JV team could get QB pressure. 

our defense was sixth in the nation last year in sacks per game.  best in the b12.

our offense was 69th in sacks allowed (nu was 68th, allowing 2 more sacks in 1 more game).  8th in the big 12.


Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on May 14, 2007, 03:39:09 PM
Against our o-line, Manhattan High's JV team could get QB pressure. 

our defense was sixth in the nation last year in sacks per game.  best in the b12.

our offense was 69th in sacks allowed (nu was 68th, allowing 2 more sacks in 1 more game).  8th in the big 12.
So basically the tampa 2 allowed us to get more sacks, at the expense of giving up a bazillion more yards against the running game?

I didn't like our defense last year.  I was full of hope after playing Marshall and Louisville.  Our offense wasn't great, but at least we had a defense!  And basically the defense started getting worse, and worse, and worse as the season went on.  It was good against the pass - unless going against the spread offense.  Couldn't stop the run game for ANYTHING.

Luckily our offense came around a little once Freeman took over.  His numbers aren't pretty, but the offense was so noticably better with him at quarterback rather than Meier.

Our O-line has never been able to protect the QB.  I just automatically expect them to suck every year, and have for the last three.  When we start getting through downs that don't end with Josh on his back every passing play, I'll change my attitude about them.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: coitus on May 14, 2007, 03:58:38 PM
Our O-line has never been able to protect the QB.  I just automatically expect them to suck every year, and have for the last three.  When we start getting through downs that don't end with Josh on his back every passing play, I'll change my attitude about them.

depends on your perspective.  our ol allowed fewer sacks in more pass attempts than the nu ol.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: catzacker on May 14, 2007, 04:12:04 PM
There's no perspective needed.  The o-line sucked.  When you can't run the ball, the o-line sucks.  And just because NU's o-line was terrible at pass blocking doesn't mean that it's okay for KSU's to suck as well. 
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: coitus on May 14, 2007, 04:47:20 PM
well, if you think nu sucks at pass blocking, i can introduce you to a nation of inbred ass clowns that disagree.

and we did run for over 4 yards a carry as a team.  it's pretty amazing, but we did as good rushing the ball as we did defending the rush in terms of ypc and rushing tds, other teams just ran the ball more against us while we passed more.

so in the end, if our rushing defense was so horrible, our rushing offense must have been pretty good, because it did as efficieint as our opponents.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Poopley on May 14, 2007, 05:20:19 PM
If you want to see the Raheem Morris D at its finest, watch the second half of the CU game. They were just ripping off 12-15 yard running plays up the middle. If Bernard Jackson could consistently throw an accurate pass or his receivers catch, that second half could've been even more interesting. When they pulled within 6, it was a little nerve-wracking.  Thankfully, Jordy made his wonderful YAC play and all was well.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: coitus on May 14, 2007, 05:27:51 PM
jackson's passing in the second half was pretty good, the defense collapsed completely after halftime.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: kstate16 on May 14, 2007, 06:02:19 PM
If you want to see the Raheem Morris D at its finest, watch the second half of the CU game. They were just ripping off 12-15 yard running plays up the middle. If Bernard Jackson could consistently throw an accurate pass or his receivers catch, that second half could've been even more interesting. When they pulled within 6, it was a little nerve-wracking.  Thankfully, Jordy made his wonderful YAC play and all was well.
:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: all hail jordy nelson for saving our ass
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 14, 2007, 08:00:02 PM
Nebraska also led the nation in the number of offensive plays from scrimmage and ranked 14th in the country in total offense at the end of the bowl season.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: ds43fan on May 14, 2007, 08:04:06 PM
If you want to see the Raheem Morris D at its finest, watch the second half of the CU game. They were just ripping off 12-15 yard running plays up the middle. If Bernard Jackson could consistently throw an accurate pass or his receivers catch, that second half could've been even more interesting. When they pulled within 6, it was a little nerve-wracking.  Thankfully, Jordy made his wonderful YAC play and all was well.
:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: all hail jordy nelson for saving our ass
jordy is the main reason why we went to a bowl
saved our ass in the Texas and Colorado game
Watts healthy we win more games last year because he saved our ass vs OKST
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: coitus on May 15, 2007, 07:25:07 AM
Nebraska also led the nation in the number of offensive plays from scrimmage and ranked 14th in the country in total offense at the end of the bowl season.

and gave up more sacks in fewer pass attempts.  seeing how sacks was the topic, i'm not sure what your point is.

are you just displaying the traditional thin-skinned 'sker insecurity?

i didn't even have to tease the bait...
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 15, 2007, 09:50:22 AM
If there's any reason why NU gave up sacks last year its because of Taylor's limited mobility in the pocket-that won't be the case with Keller. There's not even a comparison between the Nebraska OL and what you have down at K State. You ranked near the bottom of the country in total offense last year. Nebraska ranked 14th. All five starters on this year's Husker line will probably play on Sunday. Guess you can't say the same. Its a whole different deal here.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: NorthChamps07 on May 15, 2007, 11:16:22 AM
Sure all five starters will play on Sunday.  I dotoo, but I can't get ESPN to come film it!   :bs:  You had a solid rushing game and still couldn't protect your QB much better than we did.  Sure that's just what the NFL is looking for. It will be fun watching you respond after the loss to us this year in Lincoln!  Believe it!!!!! :ksu:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 15, 2007, 12:08:26 PM
 :lol:

The only way Kansas State wins in Lincoln is if Nebraska plays their JV squad. Its a terrible matchup on both sides of the ball for the Purples.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on May 15, 2007, 12:29:13 PM
:lol:

The only way Kansas State wins in Lincoln is if Nebraska plays their JV squad. Its a terrible matchup on both sides of the ball for the Purples.
You realize you return like the fewest starters in the north, right?  Tied with Iowa State?

Of course, I'm going off an OU fans information because I'm too lazy to collect my own, but it's interesting you're that confident with only like 5 starters returning on each side of the ball.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 15, 2007, 12:46:28 PM
Huh? Nebraska returns 17 players with starting experience and has 31 seniors on the roster. We have been stockpiling talent for the past 3 years and this is the most athletic and experienced Nebraska team since 1999. Better check your sources.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2007, 12:52:09 PM
Huh? Nebraska returns 17 players with starting experience and has 31 seniors on the roster. We have been stockpiling talent for the past 3 years and this is the most athletic and experienced Nebraska team since 1999. Better check your sources.

LOL @ stockpiling of talent

You guys blow monkeynuts and the sooner you accept it, the less it's going to hurt this fall when you get rolt by both us and MU.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: cireksu on May 15, 2007, 01:01:20 PM
Our Defense had no depth at any position last year by the texas game.  They just played out of their minds against texas forcing some big fumbles and making 2 huge special teams plays.  Texas tore through us at the end of the game but too little too late.  That team was absolutely gassed by the end of the year last year.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 15, 2007, 01:04:46 PM
I thought you were going to "rolt" us last year in Mancrappin? Remember, because Nebraska hadn't won there since 1996 and you had all those players returning from 2005?
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2007, 01:06:55 PM
I thought you were going to "rolt" us last year in Mancrappin? Remember, because Nebraska hadn't won there since 1996 and you had all those players returning from 2005?

Nah no one said that we were going to rolt you in Manhattan again last year.  Try to follow along bugeater.  You guys are not good in a not good north division.  Do you want congratulatory internet posts on the topic you f'n retard?
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 15, 2007, 01:22:55 PM
Really? I can recall quite a few of your delusional ilk that said since we needed a last second win in 2005 and hadn't won in Mancrappin in 10 years that a K State victory was in hand last year. Short memories I guess. Y'all had a nice little run!
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2007, 01:32:12 PM
Are you really convinced Callahan is going to accomplish anything at Nebraska? Talk about delusional.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: catzacker on May 15, 2007, 01:34:14 PM
Wasn't NU supposed to win the national championship last year?
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 15, 2007, 01:34:49 PM
Really? I can recall quite a few of your delusional ilk that said since we needed a last second win in 2005 and hadn't won in Mancrappin in 10 years that a K State victory was in hand last year. Short memories I guess. Y'all had a nice little run!

QFT - you are going to get it if you don't stop  :D
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 15, 2007, 01:35:45 PM
Wasn't NU supposed to win the national championship last year?

don't they say that every year :confused:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 15, 2007, 01:40:49 PM
No. Any hopes for a national title were dashed when Zac Bowman went down with a season ending knee injury in an August practice.

Are you really convinced Ron Prince can build a program with midgets and no talent hacks from Missouri and Kansas and you guys will be in a BCS bowl every year?
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: cireksu on May 15, 2007, 01:45:26 PM
Nu really was not good last year.  Not hard.  Did you guys beat a south team?
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 15, 2007, 01:47:58 PM
No. Any hopes for a national title were dashed when Zac Bowman went down with a season ending knee injury in an August practice.

Are you really convinced Ron Prince can build a program with midgets and no talent hacks from Missouri and Kansas and you guys will be in a BCS bowl every year?

So your NC season was ended by one guy (who was not your QB)?

I like what RP is doing and I guess if you see JF, IC, RJ and co as midgets - you will not enjoy the game this year when our midgets beat you :D
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: catzacker on May 15, 2007, 01:59:13 PM
No. Any hopes for a national title were dashed when Zac Bowman went down with a season ending knee injury in an August practice.

 :lol: :lol:


Are you really convinced Ron Prince can build a program with midgets and no talent hacks from Missouri and Kansas and you guys will be in a BCS bowl every year?

LOL.  Our head coach lead a team that had gone 4-7, 5-6 to a .500 record in conference, a win over a top 5 team, and a bowl game, what did your head coach do in his first year...took a 10-3 team and turned it into a 5-6 team.  Brilliant.  Congrats on your first Big 12 Championship appearance in the last 6 years. 
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 15, 2007, 02:04:02 PM
Yep. Bowman was irreplaceable. The common denominator in every NU loss was a big wide receiver who dominated our thin (and injured) secondary. Its not a stretch at all to think Bowman would have drastically changed the outlook against Jarrett, Adarius Bowman, Sweed, Kelly and the kid from Auburn.

Prince won games last year because Iowa State and Colorado were far worse than they were projected. Lets see what Bald Bull does with his own players instead of leaching off the leftovers (and yes experienced leftovers) from Bill Snyder. Its likely that Snyder would have made KSU a 9-10 win team last year.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: catzacker on May 15, 2007, 02:11:55 PM
Yep. Bowman was irreplaceable. The common denominator in every NU loss was a big wide receiver who dominated our thin (and injured) secondary. Its not a stretch at all to think Bowman would have drastically changed the outlook against Jarrett, Adarius Bowman, Sweed, Kelly and the kid from Auburn.

Prince won games last year because Iowa State and Colorado were far worse than they were projected. Lets see what Bald Bull does with his own players instead of leaching off the leftovers (and yes experienced leftovers) from Bill Snyder. Its likely that Snyder would have made KSU a 9-10 win team last year.

We had no problem covering Bowman or Sweed with our experienced midgets. 
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 15, 2007, 02:15:41 PM
Well, our Bald Bull Leader didn't use all of the previous players.....we have more true freshmen and red shirt freshmen playing last year than previous starters.

He did an awesome job in his first year....
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: 970Cat on May 15, 2007, 02:17:49 PM
Its likely that Snyder would have made KSU a 9-10 win team last year.

I agree with this statement, and one of those victories would have come vs. Callahans' group of frauds in a convincing fashion.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 15, 2007, 02:35:21 PM
Who was Texas' QB in that game? How many yards did Billy Pittman have receiving? Thanks.

Losing to Baylor is not awesome. Being punked by Kansas and Missouri is not awesome. Rushing for 22 yards against Nebraska is not awesome. Your little win over Texas is a fraud and nobody will respect it because you did it when their QB went down and they were forced to play a QB that have taken a grand total of 5 snaps in his college career. But keep thinking you're going to win in Lincoln. I've got Nebraska by 30. Whatcha gonna do when Suh gets a hold of you??   :tongue:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: catzacker on May 15, 2007, 02:42:34 PM
Will Callahan be playing to win games this year?  Or will he sit on the ball like he did against USC so they woudn't Texas Tech you or try for a field goal so NU wouldn't get blanked like he did against OU?  GBR.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: coitus on May 15, 2007, 02:44:51 PM
Yep. Bowman was irreplaceable.

stockpiling talent, or lack of depth?

i can introduce you to a nation of inbred ass clowns

and i present to you maxell.

they truly do lurk on this board, just waiting for the tiniest speck of bait to pounce upon.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 15, 2007, 02:56:02 PM
. Whatcha gonna do when Suh gets a hold of you??   :tongue:


 :kugayfight:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 15, 2007, 03:06:49 PM
I'd also like to add that a Callahan led cornhole squad hasn't defeated a Big 12 School by more than 30 points since Callahan's first year and that was a really bad Baylor team.

In addition, the cornholes are 3-4 in their last seven games, and are a Texas A&M brain fart away from being 2-5 in their last seven games. 

Ol Slash is 2 games above .500 against Big 12 teams. 

This is what makes any cornhole fan predicting a 30 point win by the cornholes over any Big 12 team so laughable.

Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on May 15, 2007, 03:27:31 PM
No. Any hopes for a national title were dashed when Zac Bowman went down with a season ending knee injury in an August practice.
One person being injured(unless it's the QB or RB) would not put a dent in a team that's actually going to compete for the national championship.

Besides, do you really think that these stats:
Callahans averages/season at Nebraska
Wins - 7.33
Losses - 5
Division Championships - .33
Conference Championships - 0
National Championship Appearances - 0
National Championships - 0
Bowl Game Appearances - .66
Bowl Game Victories - .33
Top Ranked Finish - 0
Top Five Finish - 0
Top Ten Finish - 0
Top Twenty Finish - 0
Top Twenty Five Finish - .33
Victories over teams that finished ranked in the top 25 - .33 (One team in three years :blindfold:)
Victories over teams that finished ranked in the top 20 - 0
Victories over teams that finished ranked in the top 10 - 0
Victories over teams that finished ranked in the top 5 - 0
Doing something unprofessional and emberassing - .66 ("f*cking hillbillies!", throatslash)
Score of conference games - 25.2-24.6
Division opponents finishing in the top 25 - 0

These statistics look like that of a coach capable of taking a team in Nebraska to the national championship?

Delusions.

He has weak statistics, ESPECIALLY considering the talent he has(Nebraska is easily the most talented team in the division, and has been ALL THREE YEARS) in a division that has had ZERO TEAMS finish in the top 20 during Callahan's entire tenure.

So basically, someone who has a lot of talent, who's doing very little, in an absolutely horrible division.

If you compared every one of those statistics to Frank Solich's, you'd find they'd be at least equal, if not far superior.  (Except maybe the chances of doing something unprofessional/emberassing.)  I still love listening to the excuses of why he was fired (In a season where Nebraska won 10 games, something Callahan STILL hasn't done..) "Oh sure we didn't lose often, but in the losses we DID have, we were getting beat badly."  Basically in reference to K-state's pounding of Nebraska in Lincoln when there was noone left in Memorial Stadium to clap.  And I guess that 70-10 doesn't count as "getting beat badly?" 

It was all worth replacing Solich with Callahan.

That bowl streak Callahan broke meant nothing.  Unimportant. 
Losing to Southern Miss on ABC at home meant nothing.  Unimportant.
Losing a multiple decade spanning win streak over Kansas(in emberassing style) meant nothing.  Unimportant.
An average of five losses per year mean nothing.  Unimportant.   (Did Solich EVER have five losses in a year?)
An average of 7.3 wins per year mean nothing.  Unimportant.  (Didn't Solich average like 9 or 10 wins per year, in a time when there were fewer games?)

At least you got rid of Solich!


The reality of the situation is this: Nebraska fans were spoiled by Tom Osborne, and to a degree even Solich.  They not only wanted to win the division almost every year, but the conference at least every other year, and be in the national championship once every couple years.  In a division they thought was their's for the taking in 2003, they were demolished by a superior K-state team.  Being restless, they fired Solich in hopes of hiring someone that would produce a team that could win conference championships regularly and compete for national championships often.  Instead they hired someone who had just been FIRED from the NFL, relies heavily on JUCOs, and had to completely overhaul everything about the Nebraska schemes that had won them those championships.

While all of this was going on, the rest of the Big XII north declined, rapidly.  The other two teams that regularly won the division, K-state and Colorado, both hit rock bottom.  K-state with a 4 and then 5 win season.  Colorado with a combined score of 6-70 in the Big XII championship games, and then 2 wins.  NONE of the teams have finished in the top 20.

Combining the decline of rest of the north with the talent advantage Nebraska had, Callahan won a division title.  Delusional husker fans call this 'progress' over Solich's years.  Realists realize that Callahan has yet to finish even as highly ranked as Solich's AVERAGE end of the year ranking.  Realists realize that Solich would have won the north the year following his firing, as both Colorado and K-state tanked majorly.  Realists realize that Solich would continue to win 10 games a year, something Callahan hasn't done even with the addition of an extra game.  The cornhuskers would still have the Nebraska option run game of old, and an additional division title(definitely 04 and 06, if not 05 as well.)

They refuse to acknowledge this because they don't want to look back and think they made a mistake in firing Solich.  They want to think they made a great decision in hiring Callahan.  They want to think that they have improved, when in reality their BEST record is inferior to Solich's AVERAGE (despite the addition of a game) and their division opponents have been even worse(Not a single one finished ranked in Callahan's entire tenure, usually at least three finished ranked at all times under Solich.)

Nebraska's dismay with getting crushed by K-state at home and not being in the national championship for *gasp* three years caused them to prematurely fire a coach who was at least capable of reaching the national championship.  Now they're stuck with the coach for all the bad media, bad statistics, and bad records that are posted above.

Nebraska will never have another Tom Osborne.  But the closest thing to him was Solich.  And he was succesful, as he proved by consistantly winning 10+ games per year and even reaching the national championship in 01.  Nebraska's greed is ultimately leading to their own demise.

Game set pwnt.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: pissclams on May 15, 2007, 03:40:45 PM
 :eek:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 15, 2007, 03:45:23 PM
well done Phreak..   :notworthy:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: kstate16 on May 15, 2007, 05:10:22 PM
phreak pwns..... :blindfold:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: goCATSgo on May 15, 2007, 05:38:36 PM
Huh? Nebraska returns 17 players with starting experience and has 31 seniors on the roster. We have been stockpiling talent for the past 3 years and this is the most athletic and experienced Nebraska team since 1999. Better check your sources.
in this case we are returning 22 starters
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: catdude33 on May 15, 2007, 08:14:44 PM
(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o305/NU_steak18/KellerDesktop.jpg)

 :ohno:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: ds43fan on May 15, 2007, 09:13:10 PM
freeman is bigger...
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Bullfn33 on May 15, 2007, 09:53:32 PM
No. Any hopes for a national title were dashed when Zac Bowman went down with a season ending knee injury in an August practice.
One person being injured(unless it's the QB or RB) would not put a dent in a team that's actually going to compete for the national championship.

Besides, do you really think that these stats:
Callahans averages/season at Nebraska
Wins - 7.33
Losses - 5
Division Championships - .33
Conference Championships - 0
National Championship Appearances - 0
National Championships - 0
Bowl Game Appearances - .66
Bowl Game Victories - .33
Top Ranked Finish - 0
Top Five Finish - 0
Top Ten Finish - 0
Top Twenty Finish - 0
Top Twenty Five Finish - .33
Victories over teams that finished ranked in the top 25 - .33 (One team in three years :blindfold:)
Victories over teams that finished ranked in the top 20 - 0
Victories over teams that finished ranked in the top 10 - 0
Victories over teams that finished ranked in the top 5 - 0
Doing something unprofessional and emberassing - .66 ("f*cking hillbillies!", throatslash)
Score of conference games - 25.2-24.6
Division opponents finishing in the top 25 - 0

These statistics look like that of a coach capable of taking a team in Nebraska to the national championship?

Delusions.

He has weak statistics, ESPECIALLY considering the talent he has(Nebraska is easily the most talented team in the division, and has been ALL THREE YEARS) in a division that has had ZERO TEAMS finish in the top 20 during Callahan's entire tenure.

So basically, someone who has a lot of talent, who's doing very little, in an absolutely horrible division.

If you compared every one of those statistics to Frank Solich's, you'd find they'd be at least equal, if not far superior.  (Except maybe the chances of doing something unprofessional/emberassing.)  I still love listening to the excuses of why he was fired (In a season where Nebraska won 10 games, something Callahan STILL hasn't done..) "Oh sure we didn't lose often, but in the losses we DID have, we were getting beat badly."  Basically in reference to K-state's pounding of Nebraska in Lincoln when there was noone left in Memorial Stadium to clap.  And I guess that 70-10 doesn't count as "getting beat badly?" 

It was all worth replacing Solich with Callahan.

That bowl streak Callahan broke meant nothing.  Unimportant. 
Losing to Southern Miss on ABC at home meant nothing.  Unimportant.
Losing a multiple decade spanning win streak over Kansas(in emberassing style) meant nothing.  Unimportant.
An average of five losses per year mean nothing.  Unimportant.   (Did Solich EVER have five losses in a year?)
An average of 7.3 wins per year mean nothing.  Unimportant.  (Didn't Solich average like 9 or 10 wins per year, in a time when there were fewer games?)

At least you got rid of Solich!


The reality of the situation is this: Nebraska fans were spoiled by Tom Osborne, and to a degree even Solich.  They not only wanted to win the division almost every year, but the conference at least every other year, and be in the national championship once every couple years.  In a division they thought was their's for the taking in 2003, they were demolished by a superior K-state team.  Being restless, they fired Solich in hopes of hiring someone that would produce a team that could win conference championships regularly and compete for national championships often.  Instead they hired someone who had just been FIRED from the NFL, relies heavily on JUCOs, and had to completely overhaul everything about the Nebraska schemes that had won them those championships.

While all of this was going on, the rest of the Big XII north declined, rapidly.  The other two teams that regularly won the division, K-state and Colorado, both hit rock bottom.  K-state with a 4 and then 5 win season.  Colorado with a combined score of 6-70 in the Big XII championship games, and then 2 wins.  NONE of the teams have finished in the top 20.

Combining the decline of rest of the north with the talent advantage Nebraska had, Callahan won a division title.  Delusional husker fans call this 'progress' over Solich's years.  Realists realize that Callahan has yet to finish even as highly ranked as Solich's AVERAGE end of the year ranking.  Realists realize that Solich would have won the north the year following his firing, as both Colorado and K-state tanked majorly.  Realists realize that Solich would continue to win 10 games a year, something Callahan hasn't done even with the addition of an extra game.  The cornhuskers would still have the Nebraska option run game of old, and an additional division title(definitely 04 and 06, if not 05 as well.)

They refuse to acknowledge this because they don't want to look back and think they made a mistake in firing Solich.  They want to think they made a great decision in hiring Callahan.  They want to think that they have improved, when in reality their BEST record is inferior to Solich's AVERAGE (despite the addition of a game) and their division opponents have been even worse(Not a single one finished ranked in Callahan's entire tenure, usually at least three finished ranked at all times under Solich.)

Nebraska's dismay with getting crushed by K-state at home and not being in the national championship for *gasp* three years caused them to prematurely fire a coach who was at least capable of reaching the national championship.  Now they're stuck with the coach for all the bad media, bad statistics, and bad records that are posted above.

Nebraska will never have another Tom Osborne.  But the closest thing to him was Solich.  And he was succesful, as he proved by consistantly winning 10+ games per year and even reaching the national championship in 01.  Nebraska's greed is ultimately leading to their own demise.

Game set pwnt.

 :katpak: :dive: :katpak: :dive: :katpak:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 15, 2007, 10:54:48 PM
Arthur Brown come on down and be part of the best recruiting class in the country at Nebraska. With Blaine Gabbert and the best OL class in the country on board, you can be a part of something real special in Lincoln  :love:

Welcome to Nebraska Blaine Gabbert!!
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: waks on May 15, 2007, 11:00:28 PM
Arthur Brown come on down and be part of the best recruiting class in the country at Nebraska. With Blaine Gabbert and the best OL class in the country on board, you can be a part of something real special in Lincoln  :love:

Welcome to Nebraska Blaine Gabbert!!
You guys have no shot with Arthur Brown. Seriously.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 15, 2007, 11:18:48 PM
That's not what he said. And now with two other five star players in the class, he might just have been swayed a little more than he was on his five previous visits to Nebraska.  :love:

If I were Ron Prince, I'd start collecting an underground fund from boosters to start paying elite players to come to KSU. Because the guys you're getting now aren't going to cut it against Gabbert, Steinkuhler, Robinson, Givens and Hoch.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 15, 2007, 11:19:31 PM
Your OL are way overhyped. Not impressed with them.

While Prince stockpiles speed, callahan recruits slow fat white iowa/nebraska boys.

should be fun.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 15, 2007, 11:49:14 PM
 :lol:

Gabbert throwing behind this OL-you'll never touch the kid. Ever.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: waks on May 15, 2007, 11:56:30 PM
That's not what he said. And now with two other five star players in the class, he might just have been swayed a little more than he was on his five previous visits to Nebraska.  :love:

If I were Ron Prince, I'd start collecting an underground fund from boosters to start paying elite players to come to KSU. Because the guys you're getting now aren't going to cut it against Gabbert, Steinkuhler, Robinson, Givens and Hoch.
First off, Gabbert shouldn't be a five star and if he is then it would be like Cole Aldrich being in the McDonald's All American game (a joke). Secondly your O-Line IS overrated. And finally, Arthur Brown has visited KSU over ten times. And the update you are talking about came from HI, not exactly quality journalism. And how does a QB committing have any effect on a LB? Do you even know who Arthur Brown is?
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 16, 2007, 12:21:58 AM
Gabbert shouldn't be a five star? Based on what Mr Talent Evaluator? ESPN has him as the #1 rated QB in the country. Crabtree has nominated him for five stars. You must have it all figured out!

O-line is overrated. Sure. That's why Baker Steinkuhler is going to be a five star and one of the top 3 OL in the country this year according to Rivals. That's why Robinson turned down offers from Michigan and Notre Dame to attend Nebraska. That's why USC is still coming after Hoch. That's why Givens had early offers from Michigan and UCLA. Overrated. Yep. Of course they're overrated when you line them up besides the pipeline Prince has going down in Manhattan. I mean, these guys couldn't hold a candle to Kaleb Drinkgern and Colten Freeze.

And if Brown wants to be a part of a surefire top 5 recruiting class, he'll come to Nebraska. Ask Hatter where he's heard Nebraska stands with Brown right now. The kid wants to win football games and he knows he will start at Nebraska next year.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: waks on May 16, 2007, 12:29:48 AM
Gabbert shouldn't be a five star? Based on what Mr Talent Evaluator? ESPN has him as the #1 rated QB in the country. Crabtree has nominated him for five stars. You must have it all figured out!

O-line is overrated. Sure. That's why Baker Steinkuhler is going to be a five star and one of the top 3 OL in the country this year according to Rivals. That's why Robinson turned down offers from Michigan and Notre Dame to attend Nebraska. That's why USC is still coming after Hoch. That's why Givens had early offers from Michigan and UCLA. Overrated. Yep. Of course they're overrated when you line them up besides the pipeline Prince has going down in Manhattan. I mean, these guys couldn't hold a candle to Kaleb Drinkgern and Colten Freeze.

And if Brown wants to be a part of a surefire top 5 recruiting class, he'll come to Nebraska. Ask Hatter where he's heard Nebraska stands with Brown right now. The kid wants to win football games and he knows he will start at Nebraska next year.
This post completely illustrates the fact that you are fully obsessed with all things KSU. We own you.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: ksuno1stunner on May 16, 2007, 01:02:51 AM
Order is finally restored in the north, with how both of our teams are recruiting.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: catzacker on May 16, 2007, 07:40:01 AM
NU better hope Ron doesn't start recruiting Gabbert.  It didn't work out well for NU the last time Cally went up against Ron for a QB.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 16, 2007, 09:11:23 AM
NU better hope Ron doesn't start recruiting Gabbert.  It didn't work out well for NU the last time Cally went up against Ron for a QB.

someone better take Gabbert's phone away from him then..Cally wouldn't want to receive another text message from a future wildcat... :loly:
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: Maxell on May 16, 2007, 09:21:37 AM
Prince can't pull the Malcolm X tactics on Gabbert. You do realize Gabbert is white, right?

Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: waks on May 16, 2007, 09:23:44 AM
Prince can't pull the Malcolm X tactics on Gabbert. You do realize Gabbert is white, right?


So it's true...?
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: geesiskryst on May 16, 2007, 09:59:05 AM
Who was Texas' QB in that game? How many yards did Billy Pittman have receiving? Thanks.

Losing to Baylor is not awesome. Being punked by Kansas and Missouri is not awesome. Rushing for 22 yards against Nebraska is not awesome. Your little win over Texas is a fraud and nobody will respect it because you did it when their QB went down and they were forced to play a QB that have taken a grand total of 5 snaps in his college career. But keep thinking you're going to win in Lincoln. I've got Nebraska by 30. Whatcha gonna do when Suh gets a hold of you??   :tongue:

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/000_stats/06/plyr0062.htm

What were you saying about checking your sources? Looks like a lot more than 5 snaps. And by the way injuries are part of the game, sport. It's not like Colt McCoy got injured making his breakfast that morning. A team like Texas should have no problem replacing a 3-star quarterback with a 4-Star.
 :ustupid: :twobirds:


Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on May 16, 2007, 10:01:52 AM
He was basically the equivelant of Freeman, a true frosh fresh out of the elite 11 camp.  Except Snead was surrounded with more talent.  I don't understand how people can keep bitching about that.
Title: Re: Rob Jackson
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 16, 2007, 02:51:11 PM
Prince can't pull the Malcolm X tactics on Gabbert. You do realize Gabbert is white, right?


WTF is that suppose to mean?  Racist