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Title: new scout top 100
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 10, 2007, 02:22:44 PM
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&pid=88&yr=2008

Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on May 10, 2007, 02:57:37 PM
If we can just get a couple of those guys we're in on, then I can live with that.  As much I wish we would get a top 10 guy every year, just not gonna happen.  But I like what I saw. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on May 10, 2007, 02:58:28 PM
I would be perfectly content with two top 100 players a year.

Especially if Kadji was one of those players next year.  He would be a very good center for us.
Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: ksu_FAN on May 10, 2007, 03:03:55 PM
Like I said in another post, 2-3 Top 100 guys with 1 being Top 50 would be great for next year.  Then maybe add a Top 25 JUCO player and a Pullen/Samuels type.  I think if you can aim to get a "starting 5" of Top 100 players every 2 years (5 Top 100 players, with a goal of hitting needs for all positions) then you can maintain a program pretty well.  In that mix, 1 to 2 Top 50s, then every 5 or so years if you can bring in a Top 10 (Beasley/Walker type) you are in great shape.  Supplement with some JUCO Top 25s and maybe 100-200 or so ranked players that you can develop.  That's got to be the model, and though you're going to get out of wack at times (maybe a JUCO-heavy class every now and then), you've got to stay with it.  Do that and you build a Top 25 program that competes for the top 4 in the league every year if you can coach at all.
Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: coitus on May 10, 2007, 03:10:35 PM
Like I said in another post, 2-3 Top 100 guys with 1 being Top 50 would be great for next year.  Then maybe add a Top 25 JUCO player and a Pullen/Samuels type.  I think if you can aim to get a "starting 5" of Top 100 players every 2 years (5 Top 100 players, with a goal of hitting needs for all positions) then you can maintain a program pretty well. 


that was the quinn snyder formula.

In that mix, 1 to 2 Top 50s, then every 5 or so years if you can bring in a Top 10 (Beasley/Walker type) you are in great shape.  Supplement with some JUCO Top 25s and maybe 100-200 or so ranked players that you can develop.  That's got to be the model, and though you're going to get out of wack at times (maybe a JUCO-heavy class every now and then), you've got to stay with it.  Do that and you build a Top 25 program that competes for the top 4 in the league every year if you can coach at all.

getting a top 25 guy at least every other year is going to be key.
Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: catzacker on May 10, 2007, 03:11:52 PM
Releford is #67 on Rivals, #24 on Scout. 
Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: sys on May 10, 2007, 03:37:31 PM
ohio state is amazing.

i think you are overvaluing jucos, fan.  most years there aren't 25 jucos that can make an impact at high majors.  i would restrict it to more like top 10 or so if you are looking for hs top 50-150 level talent.  maybe the new prep rules will direct more talent back to jucos.
Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: snart on May 10, 2007, 03:38:39 PM
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As much I wish we would get a top 10 guy every year

The magic formula, at least it was for Cincinnati during their 13 year NCAA run, was to get one 4 or 5 star (50 and above rank), and 2 three star recruits (about 50-125 rank) every year, and if you can do this every year you end up with a deep and experienced team in four years.  Add an occasional highly rated JUCO, and sometimes a project, to that mix and you get a solid team year in and year out!  That is what I think Martin & Co are striving for...
Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: michigancat on May 10, 2007, 03:42:27 PM
Releford actually fell a little bit.

Surprising.
Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: yosh on May 10, 2007, 04:25:53 PM
ohio state is amazing.

i think you are overvaluing jucos, fan.  most years there aren't 25 jucos that can make an impact at high majors.  i would restrict it to more like top 10 or so if you are looking for hs top 50-150 level talent.  maybe the new prep rules will direct more talent back to jucos.

I'd say top 20 to 25 is accurate.  That would be 4 per BCS conference.  I'm sure you could come up with 4 impact JUCO transfers that come in to the big 12 every year.
Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: FHSU92 on May 10, 2007, 06:51:51 PM
Of the elite programs, it appears OhSt8, MichSt8 and UCLA feel the patient silent commit system of ukan is passe'...
Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: Im not so stupid on May 14, 2007, 01:05:18 PM
First you have to have one of those top 100's  mention your name somewhere in there choice ,, I didnt see that unless  they just forgot to put the WORD State  behind  the word Kansas  that Im seeing a lot of.   FROM THE REST OF THE NATION :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Title: Re: new scout top 100
Post by: mcmwcat on May 14, 2007, 01:11:05 PM
5 guys did retard