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Title: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on April 23, 2007, 11:17:17 AM
Yep, another pointless thread that has no relevance to anything in reality.  But welcome to the offseason!

If you could have one former wildcat on this years team, who would it be and why?

It's a tough decision.  I want to say Sproles, but 04 showed that not even he could produce much with a crappy O-line.  Bishop somewhat flaked out after leaving K-state and we never saw if he would be able to be as good as he was without an amazing line in front of him.  Roberson?  Possibility, but he also had a pretty good O-line in front of him and we don't know how he would have done without it.  I want to say an offensive lineman, but really how much of a difference could one great lineman make when the rest are mediocre at best?  And what about a good fullback?  I don't think we have a real fullback even on our roster this year.

Maybe on the defensive side?  One of the things that made our defenses so good a few years back was because we could trust our corners to take on the receivers one on one and then allow the safeties and linebackers to concentrate on stopping the run.  That's something we've obviously been bad at since Prince took over, just see the Rutgers and ku game.

And yet if we had a better defensive line then we wouldn't need to leave our corners on an island.


All that being said, I'd probably narrow it down to two choices:
If an offensive player: Beasley.  Why Beasley?  I think he was the smartest of all our good quarterbacks.  Maybe if you dug way back to Lynn Dickey, but I wasn't alive to see him play(even professionally) so I can't really make that decision.  I think Beasley, while not necessarily being the most talented QB I've seen wearing a k-state uniform, made the best decisions.  And with a crappy line, I think he'd be the best choice, especially when taking into consideration that James Johnson and Leon Patton are pretty good backs IMO and don't really have anything to do with our offensive troubles.

If a defensive player: Newman.  Why?  If we have good corners to lock down the receivers, we can use the safeties and linebackers to concentrate more on the run, which would make our defense insanely better than it was last year.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: michigancat on April 23, 2007, 11:18:19 AM
Bob Huggins
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on April 23, 2007, 11:19:30 AM
Bob Huggins
Offensive lineman?
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: michigancat on April 23, 2007, 11:20:02 AM
basketball coach.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on April 23, 2007, 11:29:08 AM
basketball coach.
You fail at this thread.

Phreak:"Hey guys, let's get excited about football and get more traffic on the football board!"

Rusty:"God I miss Huggins.  He's such a great coach.  I wish he didn't leave us."

 :flush:
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: michigancat on April 23, 2007, 11:38:13 AM
Football = :sleep: until August.

Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: ksu_FAN on April 23, 2007, 11:40:22 AM
I'm basing mine on the system that Prince wants to run.  This is going to be what we sink or swim with, so might as well base it on reality.  

Offense: Todd Weiner or Damion McIntosh.  Its clear this is going to be a zone team and progression passing team, so an NFL caliber tackle to protect his backside is probably the best possible player right now.  Also help seal the edge for the outside zone scheme to free up Johnson and Patton.  My 2nd choice would be a playmaker at WR, perhaps Quincy Morgan or Kevin Lockett as a possession guy.

Defense: I'm back and forth on this one.  I would tend to lean toward the great DTs we've had, but its tough to say who would translate best to NT.  Then you could look at S, b/c it looks like the safeties will be playmakers in the run game like in the past this year.  Someone like Rashad Washington, Lamar Chapman, or Jon McGraw.  But I'd probably settle on a playmaker at ILB, and likely Mark Simoneau or Terry Pierce would be guys that could do well in the middle of the 3-4.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: michigancat on April 23, 2007, 11:41:47 AM
Oh, my football answer would probably be Bob Stoops.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: chum1 on April 23, 2007, 11:42:56 AM
Position that would have biggest impact is QB.  That's why I'm going with Roberson.  Have you seen his completion percentage from his senior year?
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: The42Yardstick on April 23, 2007, 11:43:42 AM
Put Mangino on the O-line.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 23, 2007, 11:48:01 AM
Football = :sleep: until August.



:rolleyes:

Quincy.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 23, 2007, 11:54:54 AM
Gary Spani.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: FBWillie on April 23, 2007, 11:59:06 AM
How about a guy that addresses several positions?  T-New?  Lockdown Cover Corner; Return specialist; and helps out at receiver on occasion?
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: ksuno1stunner on April 23, 2007, 12:14:11 PM
Football = :sleep: until August.



:rolleyes:

Quincy.

LaMark.

I'm basing mine on the system that Prince wants to run.  This is going to be what we sink or swim with, so might as well base it on reality. 

Offense: Todd Weiner or Damion McIntosh.  Its clear this is going to be a zone team and progression passing team, so an NFL caliber tackle to protect his backside is probably the best possible player right now.  Also help seal the edge for the outside zone scheme to free up Johnson and Patton.  My 2nd choice would be a playmaker at WR, perhaps Quincy Morgan or Kevin Lockett as a possession guy.

Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: bigdeal on April 23, 2007, 12:28:52 PM
I'm in the camp with _Fan on offense  I choose a stud OT like MacIntosh.  On defense, I have to go with a stud DT to put at the noseguard position.  Unfortunately, I can't come up with names of these since its been a few years since we had one.  But, if someone can throw out a few names, I'll be able to pick my choice.  Terry Pierce would be my second choice.  I think our skill positions are OK...other than a gamebreaking WR.  Our corners may be OK, we just played too much of that soft zone/cover 2 that gave up all those yds.  Hopefully, we'll attack more on defense and then we can really see if our corners are good. 
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: ksu_FAN on April 23, 2007, 12:34:31 PM
I'm in the camp with _Fan on offense  I choose a stud OT like MacIntosh.  On defense, I have to go with a stud DT to put at the noseguard position.  Unfortunately, I can't come up with names of these since its been a few years since we had one.  But, if someone can throw out a few names, I'll be able to pick my choice.  Terry Pierce would be my second choice.  I think our skill positions are OK...other than a gamebreaking WR.  Our corners may be OK, we just played too much of that soft zone/cover 2 that gave up all those yds.  Hopefully, we'll attack more on defense and then we can really see if our corners are good. 

Tim Colston or Mario Fatefehi.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: bigdeal on April 23, 2007, 12:51:05 PM
Those are the ones...thanks Fan.  I think Colston is probably the one but I am going off memory and, honestly, they kind of blend together in my mind.  I would guess as a noseguard, we probably need the largest of the two to take up a double team, but they were both aggressive playmakers from the DT position. 
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: plaincat killed himself on April 23, 2007, 12:52:43 PM
Matt Wallerstedt
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: PurpleReign on April 23, 2007, 12:58:44 PM
Mario Fatafehi or John McGraw... and some OL
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: plaincat killed himself on April 23, 2007, 01:05:06 PM
Don't forget that Jeff Simoneau played nose guard.  Or maybe Ekwensi Griffith would be a good choice.  Every team needs a medic.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: Racquetball_Ninja on April 23, 2007, 02:07:37 PM
Position that would have biggest impact is QB.  That's why I'm going with Roberson.  Have you seen his completion percentage from his senior year?

He still would have had an average year with that offensive line we're throwing out there this year.

Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: pufizzle on April 23, 2007, 02:12:19 PM
Bill Snyder   :blush:
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: rundown87 on April 23, 2007, 02:32:14 PM
either roberson or bishop...everyone else can get the hell out
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: ChicagoCat on April 23, 2007, 02:38:52 PM
Bob Huggins
Oh, my football answer would probably be Bob Stoops.

And the award for the most depressing downer goes to Rusty

I :love: Rusty
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: KSt8er on April 23, 2007, 02:39:14 PM
Bill Snyder   :blush:

 :crybaby: I miss him so much  :crybaby:
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: michigancat on April 23, 2007, 02:41:53 PM
Bob Huggins
Oh, my football answer would probably be Bob Stoops.

And the award for the most depressing downer goes to Rusty

I :love: Rusty

Click for optimism. (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=11815.0;topicseen)
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: mjrod on April 23, 2007, 02:43:42 PM
Football = :sleep: until August.

You should probably not post on this board anymore until August.

I can help you with that, if need be.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: ksu_FAN on April 23, 2007, 02:43:52 PM
Bob Huggins
Oh, my football answer would probably be Bob Stoops.

And the award for the most depressing downer goes to Rusty

I :love: Rusty

Click for optimism. (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=11815.0;topicseen)

Silly basketball fans.   :D
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: catdude33 on April 23, 2007, 03:01:57 PM
Sean Snyder.  Good Lord we're going to punt a lot this year.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: tmramrod91 on April 23, 2007, 03:59:52 PM
Fatefehi, guy was a stud and would do wonders for the D with the DE's ability. Although LB will be a real issue this year IMO, so maybe kelly or simoneau.
Offense, give me morgan. Heck, if the o-line can't block, then run some wr screens to him, that'd probably be good for at least a td every game.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: PurplePowerhouse on April 23, 2007, 05:22:59 PM
Brian Goolsby, Lazetich...Oops, I forgot we don't use fullbacks anymore  :banghead:

GAWD I miss the option / ground attack.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: Dan Rydell on April 23, 2007, 06:20:02 PM
Ron Hudson.

I'm sorry for all the bad things I said about you, Ron.  I never thought I'd see the day I'd consider you an offensive genius, yet here we are.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: doom on April 23, 2007, 06:33:45 PM
Gramatica!
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: jeffy on April 23, 2007, 07:34:56 PM
Darren Howard.  He can play inside or out on the Dline.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: prplcat on April 23, 2007, 09:07:57 PM
This is a hard question.  I'm tempted to say Sproles, he was my favorite player of all time.  But basing it on the strengths and weaknesses of our current team, I would have to say Todd Weiner, Thomas Barnett, or Damion McIntosh.  I think we need the most help on the oline.  If I got a second one I would pick TNew.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: PurplePowerhouse on April 23, 2007, 09:34:31 PM
Ok seriously--Jeff Kelly.  Hell of a nice guy and a f'n BEAST on the field.  I got him to autograph my pic of the ku QB sandwich  :D
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: tmramrod91 on April 23, 2007, 10:17:28 PM
Ron Hudson.

I'm sorry for all the bad things I said about you, Ron.  I never thought I'd see the day I'd consider you an offensive genius, yet here we are.

When he was OC, i thought he was a complete retard. Yet, like you, here i am wishing for the days of mr hudson.
His offenses were boring, predictable, but they scored a lot of points.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: waks on April 24, 2007, 08:38:57 AM
Oh, my football answer would probably be Bob Stoops.
That is the one that I initially thought of.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: coitus on April 24, 2007, 09:00:10 AM
Darren Howard.  He can play inside or out on the Dline.

qft.  biggest area of need for our defense is a down lineman, and howard could play any of the three positions, though i would prefer not to see him at nt.  after howard, maybe jeff kelly, a ilb that could be a real playmaker, and not just a clean up player.

on offense i would say kevin lockett.  an ol would be nice, but i have a hard time projecting how any of our past blockers would fit in the rpo (ron prince offense).  kevin would be the security blanket that josh needs, and a guy that could/would bail him out non-stop.

if i had to pick a lineman, i would say barrett brooks for a great pass blocking tackle.
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: Racquetball_Ninja on April 24, 2007, 11:22:54 PM
Stanbot at quarterback just so I can watch him get knocked the f*ck out week after week.  What would be even better is if they equipped his helmet with a broadcast mic and he was forced to do color while playing.  We would be on ESPN every single day of the college football season!!!   :D
Title: Re: If you could have ONE former wildcat on this years team..
Post by: Tulsa Cat on April 25, 2007, 11:47:18 AM
Me!