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Title: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: Pike on April 14, 2007, 11:31:15 AM
Fox sports said the "Sources" say so. I don't think we have much to worry about, I'm sure they'll be good coaches, but I feel like we're Mangino paying these guys!

HIRE PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY ARE QUESTIONING MOST: The decision of Kansas State to hire Huggins' assistant Frank Martin and also promote Delonte Hill to the associate head coach. Martin and Hill will make sure that everyone stays in Manhattan and that incoming freshman Michael Beasley arrives on campus. According to various sources, Hill got a multi-year deal worth in excess of $1 million — which is unreal for an assistant coach.


http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/6674896
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: mcmwcat on April 14, 2007, 11:35:25 AM
His multi year deal probably sums to over $1M.  Not over $1M/year.
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: doom on April 14, 2007, 11:37:49 AM
It's 350K.  It will take 3 years to top 1M.
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: Leyton on April 14, 2007, 01:59:56 PM
Still...that's a fat wad of cash.  But it's to ensure that we get Michael Beasley.  No time to skimp.
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: Racquetball_Ninja on April 14, 2007, 03:36:30 PM
Still...that's a fat wad of cash.  But it's to ensure that we get Michael Beasley.  No time to skimp.

Don't fool yourself, its not all about MB.  Dalonte is going to be a hot commodity in the coaching ranks in the next few years, his payday just came a little early.
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: doom on April 14, 2007, 07:10:45 PM
Still...that's a fat wad of cash.  But it's to ensure that we get Michael Beasley.  No time to skimp.

Don't fool yourself, its not all about MB.  Dalonte is going to be a hot commodity in the coaching ranks in the next few years, his payday just came a little early.

And hopefully in turn so will ours.  That guy is a &@#%ing sharp recruiter.
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: Dan Rydell on April 15, 2007, 06:44:10 PM
Well, I was close:

Weiser and Wefald said today that they told Huggs that money was no issue.  Presumably, they would have paid him more than a million dollars to stay at KSU.

So here's what you do tomorrow:  you offer Frank Martin at least $700,000 to take the head coaching job, and you offer Dalonte at least $400,000 to stay as the top assistant.  Huge raise from their salaries this year, head coaching offer should get Frank, and huge raise for Dalonte and top assistants' post should get him to stay.  Should keep the recruiting class pretty intact...and this recruiting class is worth a lot more than $1,000,000 to KSU.

Frank isn't a bad hire, people.  If you listened to Huggs' post game shows, a lot of time he gave credit to Frank for the crucial coaching decisions.  For example, the full court pressure that won the first NIT game was due to Frank's suggestions in practice.
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: chum1 on April 15, 2007, 09:20:47 PM
Well, I was close:

Weiser and Wefald said today that they told Huggs that money was no issue.  Presumably, they would have paid him more than a million dollars to stay at KSU.

So here's what you do tomorrow:  you offer Frank Martin at least $700,000 to take the head coaching job, and you offer Dalonte at least $400,000 to stay as the top assistant.  Huge raise from their salaries this year, head coaching offer should get Frank, and huge raise for Dalonte and top assistants' post should get him to stay.  Should keep the recruiting class pretty intact...and this recruiting class is worth a lot more than $1,000,000 to KSU.

Frank isn't a bad hire, people.  If you listened to Huggs' post game shows, a lot of time he gave credit to Frank for the crucial coaching decisions.  For example, the full court pressure that won the first NIT game was due to Frank's suggestions in practice.

So does this mean that you are smart or that they are dumb or is there another option I am unaware of?
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on April 15, 2007, 10:50:36 PM
Word is they told Huggs to give them an offer. They would have done $2 million for him to stay. For the record, there are about six or seven coaches in the country who make $2 million or more...
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 15, 2007, 10:51:33 PM
Word is they told Huggs to give them an offer. They would have done $2 million for him to stay. For the record, there are about six or seven coaches in the country who make $2 million or more...

Gosh, he must have REALLY REALLY wanted to leave.

This makes sonofdaxjones look even dumber.
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: Jeffrey_Martin on April 15, 2007, 11:11:50 PM
Actually, the way it was explained to me was, it was the realization that if West Virginia went with someone else as Beilein's replacement, the dude might be a lifer and Huggins would never get a chance to coach at his alma mater. So, in Bob's mind, he had to act now.

No judgment. Just relaying what I was told...
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 15, 2007, 11:45:05 PM
Word is they told Huggs to give them an offer. They would have done $2 million for him to stay. For the record, there are about six or seven coaches in the country who make $2 million or more...

Gosh, he must have REALLY REALLY wanted to leave.

This makes sonofdaxjones look even dumber.

Fatty, in about 8 or 9 years when you get out into the real world . . . you'll begin to understand the difference between proactive and reactive.

What K-State was doing was called a reactive response.   On the proactive side of things, Weiser and Wefald failed miserably.

No charge.

Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2007, 11:56:23 PM
Actually, the way it was explained to me was, it was the realization that if West Virginia went with someone else as Beilein's replacement, the dude might be a lifer and Huggins would never get a chance to coach at his alma mater. So, in Bob's mind, he had to act now.

No judgment. Just relaying what I was told...

That's just so weird.  It didn't make competitive sense to leave behind Beasley, Walker and Hoskins.  I would just expect him to be more competitive than that.  Plus the whole $2 million thing.
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: chum1 on April 16, 2007, 07:11:42 AM
1.  In the long term, it's much easier to stock WVU with the talent it takes to win. 

2.  Winning is a much lower priority for Huggins than drinking with his buddies.

3.  Huggins intended to take Delonte.
Title: Re: Jesus, Hill makes $1 million?????
Post by: KSUTOMMY on April 16, 2007, 07:44:07 AM
1.  In the long term, it's much easier to stock WVU with the talent it takes to win.

Regardless of what happens with the players at WVU, they have Old Huggie by the stones... he will be completely unable to go anywhere else no matter what happens.

Pay Dalonte what he wants, make it incentive-laden, and see what happens. If these guys are as good as the "sources" also say they are, we should be fine. I look at it this way, Nike is paying the salary regardless.