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Title: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: michigancat on April 07, 2007, 10:15:26 AM
Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on April 07, 2007, 10:17:17 AM
Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.

I thought it was in their contract that they had to
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: snart on April 07, 2007, 10:34:59 AM
Since they did all Huggins recruiting it only makes sense that they can do their own too...
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: yosh on April 07, 2007, 10:37:01 AM
Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.

I agree, but having Beasley and Walker on the court kicking butt next season, will add loads to their credibility.  (credibility they previously had by being attached to Huggins)
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: michigancat on April 07, 2007, 10:40:50 AM
Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.

I agree, but having Beasley and Walker on the court kicking butt next season, will add loads to their credibility.  (credibility they previously had by being attached to Huggins)

Saying, "Did you watch the first 5 minutes of that NBA Draft thingy last night?  Yeah, I coached that guy", goes a long way.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2007, 10:58:48 AM
Saying, "Did you watch the first 5 minutes of that NBA Draft thingy last night?  Yeah, I coached that guy", goes a long way.

^^^^
Winner!
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: Kat Kid on April 07, 2007, 11:09:32 AM
Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.

I agree, but let's not forget that they lose Huggins the "Che" factor as I'm calling it.  He is the symbol/mystique/figurehead they recruit to.  He's gone.  We'll see.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: Jayhox on April 07, 2007, 12:14:03 PM
Saying, "Did you watch the first 5 minutes of that NBA Draft thingy last night?  Yeah, I coached that guy", goes a long way.

They are certainly unique in that sense.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: rundown87 on April 07, 2007, 12:19:48 PM
Saying, "Did you watch the first 5 minutes of that NBA Draft thingy last night?  Yeah, I coached both of those guys", goes a long way.


you're welcome


Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: kougar24 on April 07, 2007, 12:57:31 PM
"This is not about one player."

Of course it is.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: opcat on April 07, 2007, 01:08:50 PM
wrong koug.

It's about keeping a class intact.

The breakout is next season.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: ksuno1stunner on April 07, 2007, 01:13:22 PM
Our assistants were the reason they came, not because of Huggins (minus Walker and Benneck).
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: kougar24 on April 07, 2007, 01:18:55 PM
wrong koug.

It's about keeping a class intact.

The breakout is next season.

I agree that next season should be pretty good, but what then?
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: konofo on April 07, 2007, 01:24:46 PM
I agree that next season should be pretty good, but what then?

Success begets success.  Newton's first law, and all that.

kono
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: AzCat on April 07, 2007, 01:30:00 PM
Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.

I agree, but let's not forget that they lose Huggins the "Che" factor as I'm calling it.  He is the symbol/mystique/figurehead they recruit to.  He's gone.  We'll see.

That's why next season is so critical.  They'll develop their own "Che" factor if they kick ass in '07-'08 and cap the season by serving up a couple of lottery picks. 
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: WildWillie21 on April 07, 2007, 01:33:23 PM
wrong koug.

It's about keeping a class intact.

The breakout is next season.

I agree that next season should be pretty good, but what then?

Then we still have Dominique Sutton, Jacob Pullen, Fred Brown, and possibly Bill for one more year. I think the better question is what if we didn't get those first 3 guys? Then we'd be in real trouble.  They're the real future of the program.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2007, 02:50:13 PM
Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.

Stay up until 2 tonight and read J-Mart's article when it's posted.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: snart on April 07, 2007, 02:53:57 PM
Quote
but what then?

Martin and Hill recruited this class, not Huggins!  They have great rapport with the kids and the kids trust them.  With a bit of success next year to show the continuity of the program and I don’t see any reason that these guys can’t continue to get the ear of top talent...
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: The Minister on April 07, 2007, 03:04:34 PM
Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.

Stay up until 2 tonight and read J-Mart's article when it's posted.

Do you happen to know what the topic is going to be?
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: Trim on April 07, 2007, 03:08:40 PM
Yes.  The topic iwill be:

Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.

but with specific examples.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on April 07, 2007, 04:27:26 PM
Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.

They lose their selling point. What are you gonna tell a recruit? Come play for Frank Martin? Who the hell is Frank Martin?

They had Huggins name to throw around before.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: Arthur Carlson on April 07, 2007, 04:36:20 PM
Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.

They lose their selling point. What are you gonna tell a recruit? Come play for Frank Martin? Who the hell is Frank Martin?

They had Huggins name to throw around before.

You're right.  Playing for Bobby Lutz @ UNC-Charlotte was an awesome selling point for Delonte Hill's recruitment of Beasley.  Good thing he was able to trot that out there.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on April 07, 2007, 04:39:33 PM
Martin and Hill won't lose their recruiting connections and abilities after being promoted.

They lose their selling point. What are you gonna tell a recruit? Come play for Frank Martin? Who the hell is Frank Martin?

They had Huggins name to throw around before.

You're right.  Playing for Bobby Lutz @ UNC-Charlotte was an awesome selling point for Delonte Hill's recruitment of Beasley.  Good thing he was able to trot that out there.

And Beasley appears, despite his love of Hill, to have sudden doubts about being in Manhattan for a year without huggins as coach.

The fact that Ksu has to recruit to Manhattan is the hardest point to sell.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: Arthur Carlson on April 07, 2007, 04:56:38 PM
Mother knows best, Goldy.

http://www.kansascity.com/165/story/62736.html (http://www.kansascity.com/165/story/62736.html)

Back to the original point, Hill was able to sell Beasley on the glitz and glamour of the A-10 and their tremendous TV deal to play for this guy, who just oozes street cred....

(http://espn.go.com/media/ncb/2005/0721/photo/g_lutz_195.jpg)
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on April 07, 2007, 04:58:56 PM
Mother knows best, Goldy.

http://www.kansascity.com/165/story/62736.html (http://www.kansascity.com/165/story/62736.html)

Back to the original point, Hill was able to sell Beasley on the glitz and glamour of the A-10 and their tremendous TV deal to play for this guy, who just oozes street cred....

(http://espn.go.com/media/ncb/2005/0721/photo/g_lutz_195.jpg)

Beasley just expressed his doubt on FSN. Article is meaningless.

And I'm pretty sure they expressed his intent to play at charlotte once before.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: doom on April 07, 2007, 05:00:49 PM
He mumbled some incomprehensible not very well thought out nonsense in an interview, nothing new.  MomBeasley know.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on April 07, 2007, 05:03:57 PM
He mumbled some incomprehensible not very well thought out nonsense in an interview, nothing new.  MomBeasley know.

He mumbled the same thing he's been saying: Signed the LOI but I'm just not sure anymore.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: Arthur Carlson on April 07, 2007, 05:17:47 PM
Beasley just expressed his doubt on FSN.  Article is meaningless.

Keep hoping, Goldy.  Keep hoping.  

Nothing she says is ever meaningless.  Mothers hold sway too.  See Hannah, Stephon.  
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on April 07, 2007, 05:24:11 PM
Beasley just expressed his doubt on FSN.  Article is meaningless.

Keep hoping, Goldy.  Keep hoping. 

Nothing she says is ever meaningless.  Mothers hold sway too.  See Hannah, Stephon. 

No offense to Mombeasy, but she was on the Charlotte board saying the same stuff before Beasley changed his commitment.

And Beasley coming to Ksu doesn't affect ku. ku will continue its Big 12 dominance and its elite national presence. :blush:
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: BarryMcCockner on April 07, 2007, 05:25:53 PM
...and you will continue being the board crab clinging to our sack.
Title: Re: Note to everyone: This is not about one player.
Post by: doom on April 07, 2007, 05:44:23 PM


No offense to Mombeasy, but she was on the Charlotte board saying the same stuff before Beasley changed his commitment.


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