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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: ksuno1stunner on April 01, 2007, 12:58:02 PM
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Agreed?
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yes football is astronomically better than bball.
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Definitely agreed. but there are still a lot more updated threads on the BB board. WTF??
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Its harder to remember all the football player's names.
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Football players are robots, and robot's names don't matter.
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Agreed, stunner.
KSU secondary = :love:.
Moore, Baldwin, Garvin, Watts, Chandler :fatty: McKinney :blank:
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Baseball and basketball are both better. :chirp:
Still :love: football, though.
Too bad we're gonna suck.
Die in a fire.
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Baseball and basketball are both better. :chirp:
Still :love: football, though.
Too bad we're gonna suck.
Die in a fire.
We'll be better than ku.
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1)college football
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2)college basketball
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3)Mens Tenis
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Baseball and basketball are both better. :chirp:
Still :love: football, though.
Too bad we're gonna suck.
Die in a fire.
We'll be better than ku.
We'll see.
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Snyder has skewed all of your minds
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I need some more :koolaid: Ahhhh.....
So anyway, yeah, uh, oh football is much better than basketball. Whether it's reading about, talking about, watching, or writing about, it's better. I ask you, when was the last time you saw a point guard get hit so hard snot bubbles came out of his nose? Which is more intense: a drive into the lane for a 5 foot floater or a 105 yard kickoff return for a touchdown?
It's not even debatable, football >>>>>>>> basketball. Unless you wear arg(a)yle, then all you have is basketball. But that's coming to an end too.
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I need some more :koolaid: Ahhhh.....
So anyway, yeah, uh, oh football is much better than basketball. Whether it's reading about, talking about, watching, or writing about, it's better. I ask you, when was the last time you saw a point guard get hit so hard snot bubbles came out of his nose? Which is more intense: a drive into the lane for a 5 foot floater or a 105 yard kickoff return for a touchdown?
It's not even debatable, football >>>>>>>> basketball. Unless you wear arg(a)yle, then all you have is basketball. But that's coming to an end too.
Anyone remember this?
In the 1999 NCAA Championship, Michigan State was a 1 seed playing 13 seed Oklahoma. Oklahoma's star player, Eduardo Najera, set a routine pick in the backcourt as Mateen Cleaves was pressing. Cleaves had his head down, and because of that he smashed into Najera, delivering a vicious head-butt to Najera’s chin. Najera slumped to the ground and lay unresponsive for 90 seconds while blood gurgled out of his chin and lip. He was diagnosed with a concussion, and his coach sent him to the locker room with 9:30 to play. At the 4:25 mark, Najera emerged from the locker room with six stitches in his lip, a head full of cotton candy, and a bruised sternum.
(badass)
(http://duggmirror.com/other_sports/The_Manliest_Moments_in_Sports/bd44803b4036eca84c4b1356ef552c49_eduardo_najera.jpg)
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I need some more :koolaid: Ahhhh.....
So anyway, yeah, uh, oh football is much better than basketball. Whether it's reading about, talking about, watching, or writing about, it's better. I ask you, when was the last time you saw a point guard get hit so hard snot bubbles came out of his nose? Which is more intense: a drive into the lane for a 5 foot floater or a 105 yard kickoff return for a touchdown?
It's not even debatable, football >>>>>>>> basketball. Unless you wear arg(a)yle, then all you have is basketball. But that's coming to an end too.
Anyone remember this?
In the 1999 NCAA Championship, Michigan State was a 1 seed playing 13 seed Oklahoma. Oklahoma's star player, Eduardo Najera, set a routine pick in the backcourt as Mateen Cleaves was pressing. Cleaves had his head down, and because of that he smashed into Najera, delivering a vicious head-butt to Najera’s chin. Najera slumped to the ground and lay unresponsive for 90 seconds while blood gurgled out of his chin and lip. He was diagnosed with a concussion, and his coach sent him to the locker room with 9:30 to play. At the 4:25 mark, Najera emerged from the locker room with six stitches in his lip, a head full of cotton candy, and a bruised sternum.
(badass)
http://duggmirror.com/other_sports/The_Manliest_Moments_in_Sports/bd44803b4036eca84c4b1356ef552c49_eduardo_najera.jpg
So that was the last timeyou remember a situation like that in basketball, eight years ago?!?! While I'm sure it was a helluva sight to see, hits like that would happen every 30 seconds in FB if it weren't for the equipment that's worn.
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Football >>>>>>>> Basketball. No question. It's so much better when basically every game holds the entire season in the balance...meanwhile for basketball, i find it a lot tougher to get pumped up for a conference game on a weeknight against some mediocre team that ultimately means little of anything other than another tack in the win column. Dominating in hoops will definitely make the winter more fun though :thumbsup:
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I need some more :koolaid: Ahhhh.....
So anyway, yeah, uh, oh football is much better than basketball. Whether it's reading about, talking about, watching, or writing about, it's better. I ask you, when was the last time you saw a point guard get hit so hard snot bubbles came out of his nose? Which is more intense: a drive into the lane for a 5 foot floater or a 105 yard kickoff return for a touchdown?
It's not even debatable, football >>>>>>>> basketball. Unless you wear arg(a)yle, then all you have is basketball. But that's coming to an end too.
Anyone remember this?
In the 1999 NCAA Championship, Michigan State was a 1 seed playing 13 seed Oklahoma. Oklahoma's star player, Eduardo Najera, set a routine pick in the backcourt as Mateen Cleaves was pressing. Cleaves had his head down, and because of that he smashed into Najera, delivering a vicious head-butt to Najera’s chin. Najera slumped to the ground and lay unresponsive for 90 seconds while blood gurgled out of his chin and lip. He was diagnosed with a concussion, and his coach sent him to the locker room with 9:30 to play. At the 4:25 mark, Najera emerged from the locker room with six stitches in his lip, a head full of cotton candy, and a bruised sternum.
(badass)
(http://duggmirror.com/other_sports/The_Manliest_Moments_in_Sports/bd44803b4036eca84c4b1356ef552c49_eduardo_najera.jpg)
I don't see any blood in that picture, you &@#%ing liar!
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You mean you can't see it gurgling from his chin and lip? (I'm not really sure how anything can gurgle from a chin.) :loly:
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jmlynch1.... :ustupid:
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jmlynch1.... :ustupid:
Agreed
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Good for a wildcat...FIRST DOWN! >.......................> Cartier Martin...for 3!
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I need some more :koolaid: Ahhhh.....
So anyway, yeah, uh, oh football is much better than basketball. Whether it's reading about, talking about, watching, or writing about, it's better. I ask you, when was the last time you saw a point guard get hit so hard snot bubbles came out of his nose? Which is more intense: a drive into the lane for a 5 foot floater or a 105 yard kickoff return for a touchdown?
It's not even debatable, football >>>>>>>> basketball. Unless you wear arg(a)yle, then all you have is basketball. But that's coming to an end too.
Anyone remember this?
In the 1999 NCAA Championship, Michigan State was a 1 seed playing 13 seed Oklahoma. Oklahoma's star player, Eduardo Najera, set a routine pick in the backcourt as Mateen Cleaves was pressing. Cleaves had his head down, and because of that he smashed into Najera, delivering a vicious head-butt to Najera’s chin. Najera slumped to the ground and lay unresponsive for 90 seconds while blood gurgled out of his chin and lip. He was diagnosed with a concussion, and his coach sent him to the locker room with 9:30 to play. At the 4:25 mark, Najera emerged from the locker room with six stitches in his lip, a head full of cotton candy, and a bruised sternum.
(badass)
(http://duggmirror.com/other_sports/The_Manliest_Moments_in_Sports/bd44803b4036eca84c4b1356ef552c49_eduardo_najera.jpg)
Yeah, I looked again...still don't see any blood.
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I need some more :koolaid: Ahhhh.....
So anyway, yeah, uh, oh football is much better than basketball. Whether it's reading about, talking about, watching, or writing about, it's better. I ask you, when was the last time you saw a point guard get hit so hard snot bubbles came out of his nose? Which is more intense: a drive into the lane for a 5 foot floater or a 105 yard kickoff return for a touchdown?
It's not even debatable, football >>>>>>>> basketball. Unless you wear arg(a)yle, then all you have is basketball. But that's coming to an end too.
Anyone remember this?
In the 1999 NCAA Championship, Michigan State was a 1 seed playing 13 seed Oklahoma. Oklahoma's star player, Eduardo Najera, set a routine pick in the backcourt as Mateen Cleaves was pressing. Cleaves had his head down, and because of that he smashed into Najera, delivering a vicious head-butt to Najera’s chin. Najera slumped to the ground and lay unresponsive for 90 seconds while blood gurgled out of his chin and lip. He was diagnosed with a concussion, and his coach sent him to the locker room with 9:30 to play. At the 4:25 mark, Najera emerged from the locker room with six stitches in his lip, a head full of cotton candy, and a bruised sternum.
(badass)
(http://duggmirror.com/other_sports/The_Manliest_Moments_in_Sports/bd44803b4036eca84c4b1356ef552c49_eduardo_najera.jpg)
Yeah, I looked again...still don't see any blood.
Nope, me either.
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I do believe football won this debate.
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50000 people doing K-S-U chant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3000 people doing it (why don't people do it at bball games?)
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Snyder has skewed all of your minds
I have no problem with someone who prefers football to basketball. I do. Nearly all KSU fans, however, have this preference for entirely the wrong reason. They like football more because KSU has recently been much better at it. You people are idiots. You will be punished accordingly in the years to come by your own idiocy while you are cling onto some idiotic idea that KSU's mediocre football team is actually really good. I will have no sympathy for you.
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Good for a wildcat...FIRST DOWN! >.......................> Cartier Martin...for 3!
LOL
Snyder has skewed all of your minds
I have no problem with someone who prefers football to basketball. I do. Nearly all KSU fans, however, have this preference for entirely the wrong reason. They like football more because KSU has recently been much better at it. You people are idiots. You will be punished accordingly in the years to come by your own idiocy while you are cling onto some idiotic idea that KSU's mediocre football team is actually really good. I will have no sympathy for you.
LOL
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Snyder has skewed all of your minds
I have no problem with someone who prefers football to basketball. I do. Nearly all KSU fans, however, have this preference for entirely the wrong reason. They like football more because KSU has recently been much better at it. You people are idiots. You will be punished accordingly in the years to come by your own idiocy while you are cling onto some idiotic idea that KSU's mediocre football team is actually really good. I will have no sympathy for you.
The basketball team made the NIT. The football team made a bowl game.
Bowl>>>>NIT.
Wake us up when the basketball team does something.
:sleep:
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I like basketball season better. More games + more intimate venue = more fun. Single FB games are more fun if you don't have to listen to the jr. coaches circuit bitch about every play (happens in BB, too, but not as much and there's less to bitch about now that BB is better than FB)
FB = :sleep:
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Liking a team because they are good, as most KSU football fans do, is simply lame. Liking a particular sport the most for the same reason is just plain idiotic. These people wouldn't really care about college football if KSU didn't have a good team. Yet they're the ones saying that it is the best sport?
Making the NIT means that you are probably in the top third of all basketball programs. Making the Texas Bowl means that you might be in the top half of all football programs. FWIW.
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That's cool that it's your personal preference, but there is no denying that football is king.
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Making the NIT means that you are probably in the top third of all basketball programs. Making the Texas Bowl means that you might be in the top half of all football programs. FWIW.
True, but 5/8ths of D-1 college basketball teams shouldn't be d-1.
And that doesn't change the fact that it's alot easier to get excited for a bowl game over the NIT.
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Dear FFF, you will be a smarter and an overall better person if you acknowledge that the reason you think football is the superior sport is due only to your emotional attachment to the KSU football team. (e.g. "I get more excited for bowl games.") I also possess these two qualities, but do not make the same causal correlation between the two.
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That's cool that it's your personal preference, but there is no denying that football is king.
FF ratings vs. BCSCG ratings?
I don't know.
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Bowl games get a lot more media coverage than the NIT. There is no comparison.
I realize our basketball team is better, will be better...yet I am consistent in saying football is king and I'd rather have a "DOD*" in football than basketball.
*Decade of Dominance
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Bowl games get a lot more media coverage than the NIT. There is no comparison.
NFL network vs. ESPN?
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Bowl games get a lot more media coverage than the NIT. There is no comparison.
NFL network vs. ESPN?
That's really dumb logic, and the kind of posting that got you banned at phog.net, sir.
Local media coverage, national, etc... It's not even close.
Would you see a 30 minute pregame show for an NIT game on one of the local stations?***
***thank you nick griffith
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Dear FFF, you will be a smarter and an overall better person if you acknowledge that the reason you think football is the superior sport is due only to your emotional attachment to the KSU football team. (e.g. "I get more excited for bowl games.") I also possess these two qualities, but do not make the same causal correlation between the two.
You sound like you're recruiting for a don't pay attention to football cult. And in the Big XII, football will always be king.
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That's really dumb logic, and the kind of posting that got you banned at phog.net, sir.
Local media coverage, national, etc... It's not even close.
Would you see a 30 minute pregame show for an NIT game on one of the local stations?***
***thank you nick griffith
Oh, well. Thank god we won't have to worry about NIT's any more.
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Dear FFF, you will be a smarter and an overall better person if you acknowledge that the reason you think football is the superior sport is due only to your emotional attachment to the KSU football team. (e.g. "I get more excited for bowl games.") I also possess these two qualities, but do not make the same causal correlation between the two.
You sound like you're recruiting for a don't pay attention to football cult. And in the Big XII, football will always be king.
I'm not recruiting. I fully understand that nothing I say will have any affect on our idoitic fans. Most of them probably wouldn't grasp the point I was making anyway.
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Snyder has skewed all of your minds
I have no problem with someone who prefers football to basketball. I do. Nearly all KSU fans, however, have this preference for entirely the wrong reason. They like football more because KSU has recently been much better at it. You people are idiots. You will be punished accordingly in the years to come by your own idiocy while you are cling onto some idiotic idea that KSU's mediocre football team is actually really good. I will have no sympathy for you.
keep getting excited for bball, until we have an elite 8 run or FF run(doubt it) then Huggs will be off and we'll be irrelevant once again and only have our mediocre fb team to cheer for.
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Snyder has skewed all of your minds
I have no problem with someone who prefers football to basketball. I do. Nearly all KSU fans, however, have this preference for entirely the wrong reason. They like football more because KSU has recently been much better at it. You people are idiots. You will be punished accordingly in the years to come by your own idiocy while you are cling onto some idiotic idea that KSU's mediocre football team is actually really good. I will have no sympathy for you.
keep getting excited for bball, until we have an elite 8 run or FF run(doubt it) then Huggs will be off and we'll be irrelevant once again and only have our mediocre fb team to cheer for.
Yeah, coaches that lead their teams to Final Fours jump ship all the time. (There's one obvious, LOL exception.)
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I realize what what you're saying chum1, and a lot of people won't understand what you were trying to say and blindly follow our FB team because of the years of national prominance. Check out my remarks earlier on this thread, my argument took a broad aspect not a narrow KSU aspect. When I say FB > BB I mean the sport, not the program. FWIW My parents went to KSU's first ever bowl game, not the Copper bowl, the 1982 Inependance Bowl. I would've gone but I was a little young. Point is, my family's been KSU football fans since before being a KSU football fan was cool.
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I like both. They really only "compete" in november for maybe a week or two, so I don't see what the issue is. And as far as if you had to choose which to go to if both were playing at the same time, it would probably be based on the opponent. For example if FB was vs UT and BB was vs Chicago State, I'd go to FB. If FB was vs Iowa State and BB was vs Oregon, I'd go to BB.
FWIW, after watching us beat OU for the Big 12 title in 98, I soon listened to our multi-OT loss to Oregon State in basketball.
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Basketball would never ever ever draw 109000 people to a game. EVER.
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Basketball would never ever ever draw 109000 people to a game. EVER.
Only because it would be unwatchable in a 109000 seat stadium.
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Yeah, they're just different. The comparison of a 10-15K arena for basketball vs a 50-100K stadium for football is really apples and oranges and maybe even more like apples and ball bearings.
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Why aren't there more 20,000 seat arena's?
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Why aren't there more 20,000 seat arena's?
For the same reason there aren't more 80,000 seat stadiums.
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It's because basketball is not as fun to watch as football to the majority of sports fans.
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It's because basketball is not as fun to watch as football to the majority of sports fans.
Football is much more popular. You're making a horrible case for it, though, and this has little to do with the overall merit of the sport.
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The vast majority of sports followers regardless of the team they're watching would rather see a bone-crushing hit from a middle linebacker than a steal finished off by a showy dunk. ie. FB>>>>>>>>>BB
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Whichever sport we're better at is my favorite.
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The vast majority of sports followers regardless of the team they're watching would rather see a bone-crushing hit from a middle linebacker than a steal finished off by a showy dunk. ie. FB>>>>>>>>>BB
^You can't argue with statistics, folks.
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Whichever sport we're better at is my favorite.
Point of clarification: fans that are honest about this aren't idiots. I have no problem with that statement at all.
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You can't argue with statistics, folks.
Hugginistas: 65929 Posts, 5925 Topics
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You can't argue with statistics, folks.
Hugginistas: 65929 Posts, 5925 Topics
Bold and Daring Football Emporium: 34118 Posts, 3054 Topics
NOT SURE WHAT TO DO WHEN STATISTICS ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER!!!
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You can't argue with statistics, folks.
Hugginistas: 65929 Posts, 5925 Topics
Bold and Daring Football Emporium: 34118 Posts, 3054 Topics
NOT SURE WHAT TO DO WHEN STATISTICS ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER!!!
To be fair, the board has only been around for one full FB season and originated after Prince was hired. For basketball it was about 1 full season and 1/3 of another, plus the Huggins hiring and process. So those stats might need an *.
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You can't argue with statistics, folks.
Hugginistas: 65929 Posts, 5925 Topics
Bold and Daring Football Emporium: 34118 Posts, 3054 Topics
And ksufans.com is a miniscule piece of the pie in regards to fan base for sports.
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when we are better at bball than football I will long for football to be good again. If football is better than bball, meh, nothing else matters.
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Mostly in big 12 country. It's much more satisfying to beat teams like OU/NU/UT in football. Their world falls apart. It's hilarious.
Beat them in basketball, and no one cares.
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Also, you'll never see teams that are perennial top 15 in football (like OU/UT were in basketball before sampson left) not sell-out or come close.
OU/UT have been a small step below elite in basketball for 10/15 years now. They still don't care.
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Personally beating texas last year was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than beating texas in basketball last year or in 04 when they were top ten. Same goes for beating NU in 00, that was better than anything the bball team has done including beating ku last year. For me.
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Personally beating texas last year was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than beating texas in basketball last year or in 04 when they were top ten. Same goes for beating NU in 00, that was better than anything the bball team has done including beating ku last year. For me.
Beating ku in AFH was pretty much fun for that day only. No one really remembers that.
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Personally beating texas last year was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than beating texas in basketball last year or in 04 when they were top ten. Same goes for beating NU in 00, that was better than anything the bball team has done including beating ku last year. For me.
Beating ku in AFH was pretty much fun for that day only. No one really remembers that.
...because that team sucked and was going nowhere. Not much different from the FB win over UT, I guess.... :-[
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During the texas game I felt sick to my stomach after we went up 21 and I saw that it wasn't the fourth quarter yet. I don't think I said a word to anyone during the whole 4th.
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Personally beating texas last year was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than beating texas in basketball last year or in 04 when they were top ten. Same goes for beating NU in 00, that was better than anything the bball team has done including beating ku last year. For me.
Beating ku in AFH was pretty much fun for that day only. No one really remembers that.
Not much different from the FB win over UT, I guess.... :-[
Yeah....a first year coach beating the defending national champs, a top 5 team, a team that had won 20 straight big 12 games, 17 straight big 12 road games, nationally televised on ABC.
vs.
a 6th year lame duck head coach, beating an unranked team (though a small rival) on a espn+ game show in a 180 mile radius in the state of kansas.
There is pretty much no comparison here.
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Seems like most of the folks that are definate FB>BB folks are those not old enough to have any memory of KSU being good at basketball. I didn't get to see much, but I was at least in Jr High when we went to the Elite 8. I very much enjoyed the glory years of FB and to be honest I enjoy coaching FB more, but there is still something significant to me about basketball. Again, I just think they are hard to compare overall and they really don't compete much IMO. In any case, definately #1A and #1B (with nothing else even close) in my rooting interest, K-State or otherwise.
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When I think of significant occasions in all of sports, many more football events come to mind. The immaculate reception, Vince Young's scoring run vs. USC for the NC, 2003 Big XII Championship, numerous missed or made fieldgoals that decided the game. I could keep going. There's plenty for BB too, but many many more for FB.
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When I think of significant occasions in all of sports, many more football events come to mind. The immaculate reception, Vince Young's scoring run vs. USC for the NC, 2003 Big XII Championship, numerous missed or made fieldgoals that decided the game. I could keep going. There's plenty for BB too, but many many more for FB.
DAMN YOU WITH YOUR STATISTICS!
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For those that are definate FB>BB folks, how many of you were alive or remember a NCAA Tourney win?
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For those that are definate FB>BB folks, how many of you were alive or remember a NCAA Tourney win?
We live in big 12 country. Outside of ku (isu/mu?) no one gives a rip about basketball.
Again, there is nothing more fun than beating OU/NU/UT.
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Big 12 country or not, I think its a relevant question for K-State fans.
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Big 12 country or not, I think its a relevant question for K-State fans.
Okay. We went 10-6 this year in basketball and 4-4 in football.
I enjoyed football season much much more.
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It's obvious that the reason nearly all KSU fans prefer football to basketball is accidental. It doesn't need to be proven. It's what makes them idiots.
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When I think of significant occasions in all of sports, many more football events come to mind. The immaculate reception, Vince Young's scoring run vs. USC for the NC, 2003 Big XII Championship, numerous missed or made fieldgoals that decided the game. I could keep going. There's plenty for BB too, but many many more for FB.
DAMN YOU WITH YOUR STATISTICS!
They're pretty clear and exact aren't they. :) Just handing out my biased opinion. FWIW If Huggie takes us to the FF next year, I'll still like FB better.
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It's obvious that the reason nearly all KSU fans prefer football to basketball is accidental. It doesn't need to be proven. It's what makes them idiots.
Honestly, you tried to argue that the NIT>>Bowl.
L,LOL.
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Also OT: NCAA tournament >>> BCS (to someone without an idiotic emotional investment)
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Fiesta Bowl >>> Final Four
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KSU fans "prefer" FB because we've been better at it (by a wide margin) over the last 15-20 years. We should just admit that and move on. College Football is extremely popular, but it's not like CBS only paid $100 for the NCAA tourney.
Beating ku in basketball isn't the equivalent as beating UT in football because there are less games in football, just like losing to Baylor in basketball isn't as big of a deal as losing to them in football...Baylor is equally terrible in both sports, but it's more difficult to "make up" that loss. If we played only 12 games in basketball a year (essentially just the conference) then beating ku in basketball would carry the same weight as beating UT in football.
I've grown up liking football entirely more than basketball, but my excitement for next year's bball season is much more than this year's football.
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Fiesta Bowl >>> Final Four
No. LOL, no. Not even close. LOL
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I've grown up liking football entirely more than basketball, but my excitement for next year's bball season is much more than this year's football.
As will everyone. Doesn't change the fact the majority of us would rather have a dominant football program over basketball.
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Fiesta Bowl >>> Final Four
No. LOL, no. Not even close. LOL
Alamo Bowl>>>>Elite 8
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Fiesta Bowl >>> Final Four
No. LOL, no. Not even close. LOL
Alamo Bowl>>>>Elite 8
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Rusty has now been cut off from the inside circle.
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I've grown up liking football entirely more than basketball, but my excitement for next year's bball season is much more than this year's football.
As will everyone. Doesn't change the fact the majority of us would rather have a dominant football program over basketball.
In 5 years, if we've muddled around 7-6 or 8-4 and haven't gone to a Big 12 Championship game or even legitimately competed for the title, while at the same time we've competed (maybe even won) a Big 12 title in basketball and gone to the Tourney every year (maybe made one run to the Elite 8 and FF) then a majority of us will magically rather have a dominant basketball program over football. We prefer football because for most of us, that's the only successful program we've known.
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Fiesta Bowl >>> Final Four
No. LOL, no. Not even close. LOL
Alamo Bowl>>>>Elite 8
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Honestly, I was just hoping "chum1" would call me an idiot.
:)
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I've grown up liking football entirely more than basketball, but my excitement for next year's bball season is much more than this year's football.
As will everyone. Doesn't change the fact the majority of us would rather have a dominant football program over basketball.
In 5 years, if we've muddled around 7-6 or 8-4 and haven't gone to a Big 12 Championship game or even legitimately competed for the title, while at the same time we've competed (maybe even won) a Big 12 title in basketball and gone to the Tourney every year (maybe made one run to the Elite 8 and FF) then a majority of us will magically rather have a dominant basketball program over football. We prefer football because for most of us, that's the only successful program we've known.
Well, it's been three straight years of pretty much garbage football. Doesn't change the fact that we'd rather be gooder in football.
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I've grown up liking football entirely more than basketball, but my excitement for next year's bball season is much more than this year's football.
As will everyone. Doesn't change the fact the majority of us would rather have a dominant football program over basketball.
In 5 years, if we've muddled around 7-6 or 8-4 and haven't gone to a Big 12 Championship game or even legitimately competed for the title, while at the same time we've competed (maybe even won) a Big 12 title in basketball and gone to the Tourney every year (maybe made one run to the Elite 8 and FF) then a majority of us will magically rather have a dominant basketball program over football. We prefer football because for most of us, that's the only successful program we've known.
Well, it's been three straight years of pretty much garbage football. Doesn't change the fact that we'd rather be gooder in football.
How do you explain KSU becoming a football school? It sucked at football and was above average at basketball.....then all of a sudden we starting winning and basketball starts losing...and now we're a football school. The reverse can happen.
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But when we were good at BB twenty years ago or so, how many K-state loyals longed to have a decent football team?
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For the majority of the nation (Pac-10, Big 12, SEC, Big 10, and the ACC even now looks like a football conference), football > basketball.
For the north-east part of the nation (Big East with their dozen or so mid major programs), basketball > football.
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Well, it's been three straight years of pretty much garbage football. Doesn't change the fact that we'd rather be gooder in football.
You're overestimating the adaptability of the average idiot KSU fan.
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For the majority of the nation (Pac-10, Big 12, SEC, Big 10, and the ACC even now looks like a football conference), football > basketball.
For the north-east part of the nation (Big East with their dozen or so mid major programs), basketball > football.
What does this have to do with anything? Is "Titanic" the best movie ever made?
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For the majority of the nation (Pac-10, Big 12, SEC, Big 10, and the ACC even now looks like a football conference), football > basketball.
For the north-east part of the nation (Big East with their dozen or so mid major programs), basketball > football.
What does this have to do with anything? Is "Titanic" the best movie ever made?
It has to do with everything.
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For the majority of the nation (Pac-10, Big 12, SEC, Big 10, and the ACC even now looks like a football conference), football > basketball.
For the north-east part of the nation (Big East with their dozen or so mid major programs), basketball > football.
What does this have to do with anything? Is "Titanic" the best movie ever made?
It has to do with everything.
No, even if basketball was clearly more popular than football throughout the entire country, you would still be saying, "It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport" at the end of basketball season. You just need to go ahead and acknowledge that your only real basis for this thought stems from years of suckling at Bill Snyder's teat.
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you just have to keep throwing gas on the fire, don't you chum1?
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It has to do with everything.
Exactly. Being the best at the most popular thing.
Nice job w/cutting rusty out.
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I could give a ratt's ass about the FF, but I watched every BCS game Boise St OU was awesome.
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For the majority of the nation (Pac-10, Big 12, SEC, Big 10, and the ACC even now looks like a football conference), football > basketball.
For the north-east part of the nation (Big East with their dozen or so mid major programs), basketball > football.
What does this have to do with anything? Is "Titanic" the best movie ever made?
It has to do with everything.
No, even if basketball was clearly more popular than football throughout the entire country, you would still be saying, "It's nice that we can finally talk about a real sport" at the end of basketball season. You just need to go ahead and acknowledge that your only real basis for this thought stems from years of suckling at Bill Snyder's teat.
If basketball was clearly more popular than football, then it would be more exciting to follow. I would then obviously like basketball more, as I'd rather follow a sport where more people cared, than a sport where not-as-many-people cared.
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Exactly. Being the best at the most popular thing.
That's not the reason. You would not like WBB if it was by far the most popular sport in the US. Keep searching.
If basketball was clearly more popular than football
That is the case where you now live. Again, keep searching.
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I could give a ratt's ass about the FF, but I watched every BCS game Boise St OU was awesome.
Exactly. Final four = cool and all, but I seriously doubt I would attend. Fiesta Bowl? Yes.
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I could give a ratt's ass about the FF, but I watched every BCS game Boise St OU was awesome.
Exactly. Final four = cool and all, but I seriously doubt I would attend. Fiesta Bowl? Yes.
Well, FF tix would be harder to come by/more $$$, so I guess that makes sense.
TV ratings for FF yesterday > Fiesta Bowl ratings
Loser(s).
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I could give a ratt's ass about the FF, but I watched every BCS game Boise St OU was awesome.
Exactly. Final four = cool and all, but I seriously doubt I would attend. Fiesta Bowl? Yes.
Well, FF tix would be harder to come by/more $$$.
TV ratings for FF yesterday > Fiesta Bowl ratings
Loser(s).
Wait? So popularity matters now?
I admit, me liking the Fiesta Bowl more is simply preference. Media coverage is much higher for the final four, and I admit it's a much bigger deal.
btw: f4 tickets would be much cheaper. don't kid yourself.
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If basketball was clearly more popular than football
That is the case where you now live. Again, keep searching.
I don't consider "Lawrence" my home.
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I grew up a chiefs fan in a die hard football household. Football is better than bball regardless of where ksu is in either sport.
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Exactly. Being the best at the most popular thing.
That's not the reason. You would not like WBB if it was by far the most popular sport in the US. Keep searching.
Yes. Have any of us played football? Yet...we still love it.
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I could give a ratt's ass about the FF, but I watched every BCS game Boise St OU was awesome.
Exactly. Final four = cool and all, but I seriously doubt I would attend. Fiesta Bowl? Yes.
Well, FF tix would be harder to come by/more $$$.
TV ratings for FF yesterday > Fiesta Bowl ratings
Loser(s).
Wait? So popularity matters now?
I admit, me liking the Fiesta Bowl more is simply preference. Media coverage is much higher for the final four, and I admit it's a much bigger deal.
btw: f4 tickets would be much cheaper. don't kid yourself.
Who said popularity doesn't matter?
BTW:
FF: $204
BCSCG: $175
http://gatorzone.com/story.php?id=11900&sport=baskm&html=basketball/men/news/20070325051700.html
http://gatorzone.com/story.php?id=11335&html=football/news/20061203094100.html&sport=footb
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I could give a ratt's ass about the FF, but I watched every BCS game Boise St OU was awesome.
Exactly. Final four = cool and all, but I seriously doubt I would attend. Fiesta Bowl? Yes.
Well, FF tix would be harder to come by/more $$$, so I guess that makes sense.
TV ratings for FF yesterday > Fiesta Bowl ratings
Loser(s).
Apples and oranges.
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I could give a ratt's ass about the FF, but I watched every BCS game Boise St OU was awesome.
Exactly. Final four = cool and all, but I seriously doubt I would attend. Fiesta Bowl? Yes.
Well, FF tix would be harder to come by/more $$$.
TV ratings for FF yesterday > Fiesta Bowl ratings
Loser(s).
Wait? So popularity matters now?
I admit, me liking the Fiesta Bowl more is simply preference. Media coverage is much higher for the final four, and I admit it's a much bigger deal.
btw: f4 tickets would be much cheaper. don't kid yourself.
Who said popularity doesn't matter?
BTW:
FF: $204
BCSCG: $175
http://gatorzone.com/story.php?id=11900&sport=baskm&html=basketball/men/news/20070325051700.html
http://gatorzone.com/story.php?id=11335&html=football/news/20061203094100.html&sport=footb
3 games >>> 1 game.
damn, it must be good to be a gator.
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Football game = Music festival
Basketball game = Concert
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LOL. Great thread. Basketball fans didn't bring up any legitimate points. Zero (0)
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You know what's really sad? Huggins has already generated more publicity than Snyder did in any single season of his. Yes, including 1998.
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You know what's really sad? Huggins has already generated more publicity than Snyder did in any single season of his. Yes, including 1998.
LOL. Don't you live in Canada or something? How would you know?
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No one really gave a crap about Snyder. At least quite a few hate Huggins.
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Snyder= feel good Miracle worker SI article
Huggins= Horrible Reilly(sp?) SI article black eye to the university.
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LOL. Great thread. Basketball fans didn't bring up any legitimate points. Zero (0)
"Basketball fans".
General Statistics - fatty fat fat
Hugginistas 4947*
Bold and Daring Football Emporium 2378
*Someone put a gun to your head?
:D
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No one really gave a @#%$ about Snyder. At least quite a few hate Huggins.
Everyone hated Snyder. No one (outside of ku fans) hates Huggins because they don't care. About. Basketball.
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LOL. Haven't you lived in Manhattan your entire life?
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Whoa didn't realize the National Championship was on tonight.
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Whoa didn't realize the National Championship was on tonight.
LOL.
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Not a big deal in Lawrence.
http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=172&FIX=1#S=172&F=2481&T=345626 (http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=172&FIX=1#S=172&F=2481&T=345626)
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Sorry I haven't been keeping up on this thread. I haven't been on the football board much recently, what with the FF going on this weekend and MLB opening day and all.
Anyway, bball and baseball >>>>>> football according to 100% of persons recently polled by myself. They still like football a lot, too, though.
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I only read half of this thread. But, LOL at all the blanket statements regarding sports fans.
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No one really gave a @#%$ about Snyder. At least quite a few hate Huggins.
Everyone hated Snyder. No one (outside of ku fans) hates Huggins because they don't care. About. Basketball.
seriously?
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I need some more :koolaid: Ahhhh.....
So anyway, yeah, uh, oh football is much better than basketball. Whether it's reading about, talking about, watching, or writing about, it's better. I ask you, when was the last time you saw a point guard get hit so hard snot bubbles came out of his nose? Which is more intense: a drive into the lane for a 5 foot floater or a 105 yard kickoff return for a touchdown?
It's not even debatable, football >>>>>>>> basketball. Unless you wear arg(a)yle, then all you have is basketball. But that's coming to an end too.
Anyone remember this?
In the 1999 NCAA Championship, Michigan State was a 1 seed playing 13 seed Oklahoma. Oklahoma's star player, Eduardo Najera, set a routine pick in the backcourt as Mateen Cleaves was pressing. Cleaves had his head down, and because of that he smashed into Najera, delivering a vicious head-butt to Najera’s chin. Najera slumped to the ground and lay unresponsive for 90 seconds while blood gurgled out of his chin and lip. He was diagnosed with a concussion, and his coach sent him to the locker room with 9:30 to play. At the 4:25 mark, Najera emerged from the locker room with six stitches in his lip, a head full of cotton candy, and a bruised sternum.
(badass)
(http://duggmirror.com/other_sports/The_Manliest_Moments_in_Sports/bd44803b4036eca84c4b1356ef552c49_eduardo_najera.jpg)
I don't see any blood in that picture, you &*$@!ing liar!
You idiots do realize I copied and pasted that right?
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No one really gave a @#%$ about Snyder. At least quite a few hate Huggins.
Everyone hated Snyder. No one (outside of ku fans) hates Huggins because they don't care. About. Basketball.
seriously?
OMG! Cupcake schedule! Recruits thugs!
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Total Revenues Ohio State and Florida-Football (combined) FY 2006: $109 million
Total Revenues Ohio State and Florida-Basketball (combined) FY 2006: $18.8 million
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Total Revenues Ohio State and Florida-Football (combined) FY 2006: $109 million
Total Revenues Ohio State and Florida-Basketball (combined) FY 2006: $18.8 million
Most of that probably reflects on the fact that they sell about 5 times the amount of tickets to football compared to basketball because you can watch football in a 100,000 seat stadium when you cannot in basketball... Don't get me wrong, I like football much more than basketball but that example doesn't do much for me...
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It means if people gave a ratts ass about bball they would DEMAND more seating.
I didn't watch the ccg last night, I watched "Touristas"(horrible). Did Florida win?
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I had the exact numbers the other day, but not now, but I calculated the total take on football and basketball for Big 12 Schools in FY 2006, and it the ratio on dollars was around $5:1 football over basketball.
The main point here of course is that football is king. Nobody has created a BCS conference to date based on basketball.
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The Final Four has a lot of viewers because of the whole "March Madness" thing and their brackets. If people didn't fill out brackets no one would care.
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Honest question to follow. Does anyone other than dax really give a crap how much money athletic departments make?
It means if people gave a ratts ass about bball they would DEMAND more seating.
That football is more popular than basketball is a revelation only to you. This, however, has little to do with the subject at hand: why you and nearly all other KSU fans are idiots. You are idiots, again, because you refuse to acknowledge that your view of football in general comes about entirely through an accidental set of circumstances. Had KSU been good in basketball rather than football in recent years, you would be claiming it to be superior. You just don't have a good reason to claim one sport to be superior to the other. What you have is, in fact, an idiotic reason.
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Honest question to follow. Does anyone other than dax really give a @#%$ how much money athletic departments make?
It means if people gave a ratts ass about bball they would DEMAND more seating.
That football is more popular than basketball is a revelation only to you. This, however, has little to do with the subject at hand: why you and nearly all other KSU fans are idiots. You are idiots, again, because you refuse to acknowledge that your view of football in general comes about entirely through an accidental set of circumstances. Had KSU been good in basketball rather than football in recent years, you would be claiming it to be superior. You just don't have a good reason to claim one sport to be superior to the other. What you have is, in fact, an idiotic reason.
Nope, 3rd gen KStater and was raised on KSU basketball, but once we became competetive in football I started to watch/follow college football, now I am a full-fledged college football fan. So no, the idiot is in the mirror. :twobirds:
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once we became competetive in football I started to watch/follow college football, now I am a full-fledged college football fan.
Are you claiming that football is superior for no reason other than it's what we've been good at recently? It doesn't seem like you are. Maybe you missed my point.
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That football is more popular than basketball is a revelation only to you. This, however, has little to do with the subject at hand: why you and nearly all other KSU fans are idiots. You are idiots, again, because you refuse to acknowledge that your view of football in general comes about entirely through an accidental set of circumstances. Had KSU been good in basketball rather than football in recent years, you would be claiming it to be superior. You just don't have a good reason to claim one sport to be superior to the other. What you have is, in fact, an idiotic reason.
Ok, wihuskerchum I mentioned earlier that I've been a Football fan my whole life growing up going to chiefs games with my folks through the 90's. My family has had Chiefs season tix going back to my grandmother at the old stadium when the Chiefs moved to KC from Dallas(their seats now are badass). I like KSU bball and that is about it, don't follow other teams, didn't follow college closely until I went to KSU, still don't follow college closley(see my bracket) Football will always be my favorite ksu sport even when they go back to crappola, I will probably be in denial about it when it happens. I will root my ass off for ksu in bball as well but it will never take the place of what football means to me. College basketball has a meaningless regular season for all but a few "Cinderella teams" that get clobbered by the elites 90% of the time. In football every game means something and holds a teams hopes on the line. The bowl games are about pride, state, region, confrence, school. No one talks about that crap in bball.
:dancin:
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Finally some legitimate reasons. You are a minority in more ways than one.
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once we became competetive in football I started to watch/follow college football, now I am a full-fledged college football fan.
Are you claiming that football is superior for no reason other than it's what we've been good at recently? It doesn't seem like you are. Maybe you missed my point.
I'll try again. Growing up I was a college basketball fan, no pro ball then, and still. I was a pro football fan (Johnny U and the Colts baby!!), never followed college ball, and yes likely because being raised a KSU fan meant you were a bball fan. That and KSU was never on tv in football I'd suppose.
Then when we did become competetive in football I had just moved back to KS (93) and started to follow the team, which led to my appreciation of the college game much more than the pro, which I now hardly ever watch.
Should KSU ever be a high quality in both sports I'll follow both but my days of being a basketball fan first are over. Not because of when I became a fan, or what sport we are better in at the time.
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FACT: Globally, most people enjoy basketball moreso than our Football.
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Chum . . . I grew up watching Lon Kruger, Mike Evans, Carl Gerlach, Ed Nealy, Ro et. al. playing basketball at KSU, and also watching Gary Spani attempt to be a one man defense.
I have always stated that I don't seen any reason why KSU can't be decent in one of those sports now, and good in the other. Why?? Because KSU fields the minimum amount of sports and today spends almost $40 million dollars on athletics, and will likely make close to $50 million dollars in gross revenues on athletics this year.
Plus all K-State fans should care about how much money KSU sports makes, and how it relates to other conference schools, because that is going to be important in keeping KSU involved in a major conference in the future. It's also important because it lets us a fan know how much money KSU can spend on its various sports budgets, to get coaches etc. etc. etc.
Lets say KSU has to give Huggins a considerable pay raise to keep him at KSU . . . well I feel a whole lot better about KSU being able to that since KSU athletics finished nearly $9 million in the black last FY.
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FACT: Globally, most people enjoy basketball moreso than our Football.
FACT: Globally, more people care about Harry Potter than our football.
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Honestly, I find the revenue stuff pretty interesting. I need to stay on top of things, anyway, because if I ever win a huge jackpot in the lottery, I will do something like donate some new courtside folding chairs for the basketball teams. They'll probably be black with a diamond and gold encrusted image of Huggins' mug on them.
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Honestly, I find the revenue stuff pretty interesting. I need to stay on top of things, anyway, because if I ever win a huge jackpot in the lottery, I will do something like donate some new courtside folding chairs for the basketball teams. They'll probably be black with a diamond and gold encrusted image of Huggins' mug on them.
How about an all black basketball court with a large Huggy headshot at mid court??