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Title: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 24, 2007, 08:49:12 PM
7 elite 8's
4 ff's
2 title game appy's

6(!!) times they've been a 1 seed!
3 times they've been a 2 seed!

Unreal. That has to burn them.  :lol:
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 24, 2007, 08:51:18 PM
Like I said, the ku Schottenheimers.

Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: catzacker on March 24, 2007, 08:53:41 PM
Imagine having to go through '98 football (but in basketball) nearly every year.  Amazing. 
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: Super PurpleCat on March 24, 2007, 09:17:51 PM
Maybe if they got crafty with it and played just badly enough to make a #2 seed they could make it.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: Andy on March 24, 2007, 09:31:52 PM
couldn't happen to a better and more deserving school.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: Leyton on March 24, 2007, 09:36:24 PM
I'm beginning to understand why their basketball fanbase is so bitter and hateful.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: doom on March 24, 2007, 10:45:29 PM
I'm beginning to understand why their basketball fanbase is so bitter and hateful.

I grew up in Lawrence.  It pisses most of the town off how often ku drops the ball in tourney play to teams they could or should beat.  Most of them accept defeat before the campionship game and just guess which team will knock ku out so it doesn't hurt as bad when it happens.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: QuinnMac on March 24, 2007, 10:48:54 PM
Like I said, the ku Schottenheimers.



Bad coaching doesn't win championships
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: S. Parker on March 24, 2007, 10:54:27 PM
I tend to think Kansas will get one under Self. But I guess that is just the gut feeling of a stray husker fan who accidently wandered onto the basketball board.

My question is, do you think Huggins will be able to sustain the amazing recruiting he has been doing? If he does, Kansas State could find itself contending for one too.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: waks on March 25, 2007, 12:06:12 AM
He's after some top prospects.. I don't think we will ever have the number one class again but a top ten class could pop up a few more times...
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: Squeak on March 25, 2007, 01:20:48 AM
Maybe this is karma catching up for how fortunate they were to win in '88.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: ksuno1stunner on March 25, 2007, 01:25:46 AM
He's after some top prospects.. I don't think we will ever have the number one class again but a top ten class could pop up a few more times...

DeMarcus Cousins.

If we can pull off Gates and Gibson, we might even be top 5.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: S. Parker on March 25, 2007, 01:54:24 AM
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Maybe this is karma catching up for how fortunate they were to win in '88.

Yeah, wasn't the 1988 team called Danny Manning and the Miracles (or something like that)?

I always think of ku as this dominant force in basketball, but I forget how big of a surprise they were back then.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: Diamond Dave on March 25, 2007, 02:11:28 AM
Living in Lawrence for 4+ years, I hear how every year is THE year and how Roy royally screwed them. Quality entertainment.  :chirp:
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on March 25, 2007, 02:21:43 AM
7 elite 8's
4 ff's
2 title game appy's

6(!!) times they've been a 1 seed!
3 times they've been a 2 seed!

Unreal. That has to burn them.  :lol:

That doesn't burn.

Thats what makes Kansas an elite basketball school.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: swish1 on March 25, 2007, 02:23:03 AM
7 elite 8's
4 ff's
2 title game appy's

6(!!) times they've been a 1 seed!
3 times they've been a 2 seed!

Unreal. That has to burn them.  :lol:

That doesn't burn.

Thats what makes Kansas an elite basketball school.

and thats what cracks me up.  what other "elite" basketball school hasnt won a nationl title in nearly 20 years?
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on March 25, 2007, 02:25:06 AM
7 elite 8's
4 ff's
2 title game appy's

6(!!) times they've been a 1 seed!
3 times they've been a 2 seed!

Unreal. That has to burn them.  :lol:

That doesn't burn.

Thats what makes Kansas an elite basketball school.

and thats what cracks me up.  what other "elite" basketball school hasnt won a nationl title in nearly 20 years?

If national titles were all that mattered than what would that say about Kstate's entire athletic existence?

I'm not saying that the 1988 championship was just yesterday, but ku has been consistently among the best in the country every single year. How many programs can say that?
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 25, 2007, 05:47:26 AM
ku folks banter about the word "Elite" a little to easily.  ku is a power, but ku is not "elite".
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: chum1 on March 25, 2007, 08:42:14 AM
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Maybe this is karma catching up for how fortunate they were to win in '88.

Yeah, wasn't the 1988 team called Danny Manning and the Miracles (or something like that)?

I always think of ku as this dominant force in basketball, but I forget how big of a surprise they were back then.

KSU clearly had the better team that year.  And OU was clearly better than KSU.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: sonofchadmay on March 25, 2007, 09:26:24 AM
7 elite 8's
4 ff's
2 title game appy's

6(!!) times they've been a 1 seed!
3 times they've been a 2 seed!

Unreal. That has to burn them.  :lol:

That doesn't burn.

Thats what makes Kansas an elite basketball school.

ku being elite is a myth.  They have been the king of the crapheads for years being the only school that emphasizes basketball in a football conference.  They rack up glitzy records playing against horid teams which leads to high seeds which allows them to play mediocre teams in round 1 and 2 of the tourney most years.  Losing year after year after year to teams outside of conference in the tourney is not just a fluke.  If ku were in the ACC they would be a slightly above average program.  2 total championships, 1 19 years ago, the other in the 50's before anyone cared about ncaa basketball does not equate to "elite". 
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: Meatbag on March 25, 2007, 10:24:05 AM
Butler, Bradley and now the BRUINS
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: ksuno1stunner on March 25, 2007, 10:42:38 AM
ku is not on the top ten most popular cbb team list.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: jmlynch1 on March 25, 2007, 11:48:59 AM
ku got out elited
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on March 25, 2007, 02:01:18 PM
ku folks banter about the word "Elite" a little to easily.  ku is a power, but ku is not "elite".


ku is elite. The only people who even deny this are bitter rival fans. Even the media talking heads say ku is elite and they always back it up with facts such as tournament appearances, wins in the tournament, conference championships, elite eights, final fours, championship game appearances.

Sorry Dax, but burying your head in the sand and ignoring ku's achievements just won't work.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: ksuno1stunner on March 25, 2007, 02:08:01 PM
ku folks banter about the word "Elite" a little to easily.  ku is a power, but ku is not "elite".


ku is elite. The only people who even deny this are bitter rival fans. Even the media talking heads say ku is elite and they always back it up with facts such as tournament appearances, wins in the tournament, conference championships, elite eights, final fours, championship game appearances.

Sorry Dax, but burying your head in the sand and ignoring ku's achievements just won't work.


Elite would mean ku would be one of America's favorite basketball teams.

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=741

All of the traditional powers are on here.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: cireksu on March 25, 2007, 02:08:34 PM
What year did ku go undefeated before losing in the tourney?  97?  That team should have won it all.  it is pretty unexplainable how they have not won a ccg in 20 years.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on March 25, 2007, 02:10:42 PM
ku folks banter about the word "Elite" a little to easily.  ku is a power, but ku is not "elite".


ku is elite. The only people who even deny this are bitter rival fans. Even the media talking heads say ku is elite and they always back it up with facts such as tournament appearances, wins in the tournament, conference championships, elite eights, final fours, championship game appearances.

Sorry Dax, but burying your head in the sand and ignoring ku's achievements just won't work.


Elite would mean ku would be one of America's favorite basketball teams.

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=741

All of the traditional powers are on here.

From your own link:

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Rounding out the top-five favorite teams

'Favorite' has jackcrap to do with elite.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: ksuno1stunner on March 25, 2007, 02:19:06 PM
ku folks banter about the word "Elite" a little to easily.  ku is a power, but ku is not "elite".


ku is elite. The only people who even deny this are bitter rival fans. Even the media talking heads say ku is elite and they always back it up with facts such as tournament appearances, wins in the tournament, conference championships, elite eights, final fours, championship game appearances.

Sorry Dax, but burying your head in the sand and ignoring ku's achievements just won't work.


Elite would mean ku would be one of America's favorite basketball teams.

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=741

All of the traditional powers are on here.

From your own link:

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Rounding out the top-five favorite teams

'Favorite' has jack@#%$ to do with elite.

Quote
All of the traditional powers are on here.

I guess you guys just aren't as well recognized.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on March 25, 2007, 02:28:11 PM
ku folks banter about the word "Elite" a little to easily.  ku is a power, but ku is not "elite".


ku is elite. The only people who even deny this are bitter rival fans. Even the media talking heads say ku is elite and they always back it up with facts such as tournament appearances, wins in the tournament, conference championships, elite eights, final fours, championship game appearances.

Sorry Dax, but burying your head in the sand and ignoring ku's achievements just won't work.


Elite would mean ku would be one of America's favorite basketball teams.

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=741

All of the traditional powers are on here.

From your own link:

Quote
Rounding out the top-five favorite teams

'Favorite' has jack@#%$ to do with elite.

Quote
All of the traditional powers are on here.

I guess you guys just aren't as well recognized.

Yeah, samples from people that don't follow college basketball are always accurate. ku should move to the east coast I guess.

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among a nationwide sample of 2,223 U.S. adults, 565 of whom follow college basketball.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: ksuno1stunner on March 25, 2007, 02:32:12 PM
ku folks banter about the word "Elite" a little to easily.  ku is a power, but ku is not "elite".


ku is elite. The only people who even deny this are bitter rival fans. Even the media talking heads say ku is elite and they always back it up with facts such as tournament appearances, wins in the tournament, conference championships, elite eights, final fours, championship game appearances.

Sorry Dax, but burying your head in the sand and ignoring ku's achievements just won't work.


Elite would mean ku would be one of America's favorite basketball teams.

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=741

All of the traditional powers are on here.

From your own link:

Quote
Rounding out the top-five favorite teams

'Favorite' has jack@#%$ to do with elite.

Quote
All of the traditional powers are on here.

I guess you guys just aren't as well recognized.

Yeah, samples from people that don't follow college basketball are always accurate. ku should move to the east coast I guess.

Quote
among a nationwide sample of 2,223 U.S. adults, 565 of whom follow college basketball.

Not a household name.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: Super PurpleCat on March 25, 2007, 02:32:26 PM
ku is an elite school if you live in Lawrence and all you talk to are other people in Lawrence and going out drinking at Overland Park bars with ku flags hanging everywhere.  The Texas fans tend to do this too.  You live around Austin, all you read is the Austin-American Statesman and watch the local TV stations, after a while you start believing your team truly is the best in the nation and everyone else is substandard and all you are basing this on is you and your friends talking yourselves up.

But then the tournament comes along and your team gets beat and you spend the next few weeks talking about how you "choked" or "gave the game away" and other such nonsense.  Then during the offseason you still compare yourselves to schools who have won many more titles than you have.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on March 25, 2007, 02:38:27 PM
ku is an elite school if you live in Lawrence and all you talk to are other people in Lawrence and going out drinking at Overland Park bars with ku flags hanging everywhere.  The Texas fans tend to do this too.  You live around Austin, all you read the Austin-American Statesman and watch the local TV stations, after a while you start believing your team truly is the best in the nation and everyone else is substandard and all you are basing this on is you and your friends talking yourselves up.

But then the tournament comes along and your team gets beat and you spend the next few weeks talking about how you "choked" or "gave the game away" and other such nonsense.

I didn't say ku was the best in the nation. I said they are elite because of this:

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tournament appearances, wins in the tournament, conference championships, elite eights, final fours, championship game appearances.

Getting to the elite eight would be an achievement for lesser programs. Losing there is a 'choke' for ku(elite). How can Ksu fans say ku isn't elite and then turnaround and say an elite eight loss is a choke?

 :confused:<------I just don't understand you silly bastards.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: jmlynch1 on March 25, 2007, 02:45:15 PM
They weren't even in the top 1/4th of eliteness in their own region.
Title: Re: It's an absolute miracle ku has not won a national title since 1988
Post by: Super PurpleCat on March 25, 2007, 03:21:41 PM
ku is an elite school if you live in Lawrence and all you talk to are other people in Lawrence and going out drinking at Overland Park bars with ku flags hanging everywhere.  The Texas fans tend to do this too.  You live around Austin, all you read the Austin-American Statesman and watch the local TV stations, after a while you start believing your team truly is the best in the nation and everyone else is substandard and all you are basing this on is you and your friends talking yourselves up.

But then the tournament comes along and your team gets beat and you spend the next few weeks talking about how you "choked" or "gave the game away" and other such nonsense.

I didn't say ku was the best in the nation. I said they are elite because of this:

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tournament appearances, wins in the tournament, conference championships, elite eights, final fours, championship game appearances.

Getting to the elite eight would be an achievement for lesser programs. Losing there is a 'choke' for ku(elite). How can Ksu fans say ku isn't elite and then turnaround and say an elite eight loss is a choke?

 :confused:<------I just don't understand you silly bastards.

I have low BBIQ and low elitiness.   :-X