Anyone else here been the victim of a major scam?

[michigancat]

And no, I don't think the guy was a "scam artist". it gives him too much credit. I mean his "scam" was going to farmers and saying "give me some milo hay" and three farmers saying, "sure, sounds great!"

[chum1]

Not a major scam, but I bought a car from a place that was raided the very next day by the Warren County Drug Task Force. Agents from the Internal Revenue Service, Drug Enforcement Administration, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.  Getting the title was a major PIA.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100630/NEWS010701/7010316/Cars-200K-seized-raids

I just now looked it up and found out what was going on.

http://searchjustice.usdoj.gov/search?q=cache:reBQMGzqHDoJ:www.justice.gov/usao/ohs/news/07-05-12.html+cincy+imports+inurl%3A%2Fusao%2Fohs&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=iso-8859-1&client=default_frontend&proxystylesheet=default_frontend&site=default_collection&access=p&oe=UTF-8

[Deez Nutz]

Everyone quit kicking this guy while he's down.

I don't mind being insulted when it is well warranted, kc.  If I did, then I would not have started this thread to begin with. 

Another time I got scammed was when I let a stripper talk me into going in the "Champagne Room" with her.  Big mistake.  It was nothing more than an ordinary lap dance, and a hell of a lot more expensive.   

[8manpick]

This thread title is such a cry for attention.

If you are stealing hay or any other farm/ranch product, you are not conducting a "major scam" you are just some hayseed taking advantage of other hayseeds.

But yeah sucks deez nuts, sorry bro.

Yeah but I don't think that I would fall under the actual definition of "hayseed".  Phog people would claim that you too are a hayseed just for being a KSU fan.

Do you or do you not sell hay? Did you or did you not get scammed by a fellow hayseed? I think this one is obvious. T's and P's though

Hayseed - a person who is not very intelligent or interested in culture
            - an unsophisticated country person
            - A bumpkin; a yokel.
            - A slow witted or unstylish person from the rural midwest.

Nowhere does it define a hayseed as being anyone involved in farming or agriculture in general.  In fact, most farmers I know (and every successful farmer I know) are very intelligent, skilled, and business-savvy.  Only a small minority of farmers could you legitimately call a hayseed.  Just because I was a dumbass and made this one mistake doesn't make me a hayseed. 

FWIW, farming had nothing to do with me insinuating you were a hayseed. It had more to do with the unsophisticated-slow-witted-country-yokel-iness as evidenced by calling this a "major scam".

So then you wouldn't refer to the loser douchebag as being a "scam artist" even though he has screwed over at least three people for multiple thousands of dollars each? 

I suppose "hayseed' is a fair insult if the only context to which it applies is that I was dumb enough to fall for this guy's bullshit in that instance.  But I would call it a simple mistake, or a failure to use the intelligence that I have.  A real hayseed would be somebody who completely lacks intelligence to begin with.  But before you start to tell me how unintelligent I actually am, you should know that I went to K-State and earned both a bachelor's degree and a master's degree, and graduated with a cumulative 3.7 GPA.  So then you would have to admit that anyone reading this board who has a cumulative GPA less than 3.7 must be dumber than a damned hayseed.

Nah, GPA factors effort in too much. I had a bachelors and masters with a cumulative GPA of just under 3.6, with an average BAC of about .16 and didn't get scammed on a hay trade. 8manpick=not a hayseed

[Mikeyis4dcats]

1099c him for the value if you decide it's uncollectible.   The IRS likes to get their cut of that unclaimed "income".

[Deez Nutz]

This thread title is such a cry for attention.

If you are stealing hay or any other farm/ranch product, you are not conducting a "major scam" you are just some hayseed taking advantage of other hayseeds.

But yeah sucks deez nuts, sorry bro.

Yeah but I don't think that I would fall under the actual definition of "hayseed".  Phog people would claim that you too are a hayseed just for being a KSU fan.

Do you or do you not sell hay? Did you or did you not get scammed by a fellow hayseed? I think this one is obvious. T's and P's though

Hayseed - a person who is not very intelligent or interested in culture
            - an unsophisticated country person
            - A bumpkin; a yokel.
            - A slow witted or unstylish person from the rural midwest.

Nowhere does it define a hayseed as being anyone involved in farming or agriculture in general.  In fact, most farmers I know (and every successful farmer I know) are very intelligent, skilled, and business-savvy.  Only a small minority of farmers could you legitimately call a hayseed.  Just because I was a dumbass and made this one mistake doesn't make me a hayseed. 

FWIW, farming had nothing to do with me insinuating you were a hayseed. It had more to do with the unsophisticated-slow-witted-country-yokel-iness as evidenced by calling this a "major scam".

So then you wouldn't refer to the loser douchebag as being a "scam artist" even though he has screwed over at least three people for multiple thousands of dollars each? 

I suppose "hayseed' is a fair insult if the only context to which it applies is that I was dumb enough to fall for this guy's bullshit in that instance.  But I would call it a simple mistake, or a failure to use the intelligence that I have.  A real hayseed would be somebody who completely lacks intelligence to begin with.  But before you start to tell me how unintelligent I actually am, you should know that I went to K-State and earned both a bachelor's degree and a master's degree, and graduated with a cumulative 3.7 GPA.  So then you would have to admit that anyone reading this board who has a cumulative GPA less than 3.7 must be dumber than a damned hayseed.

Nah, GPA factors effort in too much. I had a bachelors and masters with a cumulative GPA of just under 3.6, with an average BAC of about .16 and didn't get scammed on a hay trade. 8manpick=not a hayseed

Under 3.6???  Looks to me like 8manpick has just admitted to being dumber than a hayseed.  That really sucks for you.  Thoughts and Prayers, man.

[8manpick]

This thread title is such a cry for attention.

If you are stealing hay or any other farm/ranch product, you are not conducting a "major scam" you are just some hayseed taking advantage of other hayseeds.

But yeah sucks deez nuts, sorry bro.

Yeah but I don't think that I would fall under the actual definition of "hayseed".  Phog people would claim that you too are a hayseed just for being a KSU fan.

Do you or do you not sell hay? Did you or did you not get scammed by a fellow hayseed? I think this one is obvious. T's and P's though

Hayseed - a person who is not very intelligent or interested in culture
            - an unsophisticated country person
            - A bumpkin; a yokel.
            - A slow witted or unstylish person from the rural midwest.

Nowhere does it define a hayseed as being anyone involved in farming or agriculture in general.  In fact, most farmers I know (and every successful farmer I know) are very intelligent, skilled, and business-savvy.  Only a small minority of farmers could you legitimately call a hayseed.  Just because I was a dumbass and made this one mistake doesn't make me a hayseed. 

FWIW, farming had nothing to do with me insinuating you were a hayseed. It had more to do with the unsophisticated-slow-witted-country-yokel-iness as evidenced by calling this a "major scam".

So then you wouldn't refer to the loser douchebag as being a "scam artist" even though he has screwed over at least three people for multiple thousands of dollars each? 

I suppose "hayseed' is a fair insult if the only context to which it applies is that I was dumb enough to fall for this guy's bullshit in that instance.  But I would call it a simple mistake, or a failure to use the intelligence that I have.  A real hayseed would be somebody who completely lacks intelligence to begin with.  But before you start to tell me how unintelligent I actually am, you should know that I went to K-State and earned both a bachelor's degree and a master's degree, and graduated with a cumulative 3.7 GPA.  So then you would have to admit that anyone reading this board who has a cumulative GPA less than 3.7 must be dumber than a damned hayseed.

Nah, GPA factors effort in too much. I had a bachelors and masters with a cumulative GPA of just under 3.6, with an average BAC of about .16 and didn't get scammed on a hay trade. 8manpick=not a hayseed

Under 3.6???  Looks to me like 8manpick has just admitted to being dumber than a hayseed.  That really sucks for you.  Thoughts and Prayers, man.

Pfft. Reading comprehension much? Want to compare other meaningless stats from academia?

[Deez Nutz]

Pfft. Reading comprehension much? Want to compare other meaningless stats from academia?

What would you consider a more meaningful measure of intelligence, then?  Success at one's profession?  Annual income?  Accumulated net worth?  I'm no hayseed yokel by any of those measures. 

[8manpick]

Nah, GPA factors effort in too much.

Plenty of hardworking hayseeds. Kind of what they are known for. That and getting scammed by other hayseeds.

[pissclams]

Milo For Meth, the tragic story of an unsuspecting farmer and his kindergarten confidant

Tuesday night, 8pm on the Lifetime Channel

[_33]

8manpick, knock it off. Jeez.

[8manpick]

8manpick, knock it off. Jeez.

I was just messing with my friend Deez Nutz, the hay farmer who takes offense at being called a hayseed. It was at least 90% sarcastic.

[Brock Landers]

[dontfeedthebear]

That is good advice and I will be filing suit tomorrow since I have been out of town the past few days.  Also, I am supposed to meet with the sheriff tomorrow to provide the weight tickets, etc., and he said he will personally go over there and charge the guy.  Hopefully he does not go on the run before that, but at least I got the guy's tag number in case they need it.  I will keep you all posted on how it ends up playing out.

 

[Tobias]

good luck, deez nuts.  this guy sounds sucky and i hope something bad happens to him.

[star seed 7]

If you deal hay, then you're probably a hayseed.   Intelligence has nothing to do with it.  JMO.

[420seriouscat69]

SteveDave scammed me. He told me several times that we were real life friends, but today he told me to stop message boarding.  Feels bad man.

[DQ12]

Milo For Meth, the tragic story of an unsuspecting farmer and his kindergarten confidant

Tuesday night, 8pm on the Lifetime Channel

[kim carnes]

SteveDave scammed me. He told me several times that we were real life friends, but today he told me to stop message boarding.  Feels bad man.

That doesn't mean you aren't friends.

[420seriouscat69]

SteveDave scammed me. He told me several times that we were real life friends, but today he told me to stop message boarding.  Feels bad man.

That doesn't mean you aren't friends.

[Deez Nutz]

That is good advice and I will be filing suit tomorrow since I have been out of town the past few days.  Also, I am supposed to meet with the sheriff tomorrow to provide the weight tickets, etc., and he said he will personally go over there and charge the guy.  Hopefully he does not go on the run before that, but at least I got the guy's tag number in case they need it.  I will keep you all posted on how it ends up playing out.

 

I filed my complaint with the sheriff's office on Thursday last week and provided all information I had.  They wrote up a report on it to send to the county attorney and included all the complaints together to bring the charges against him in one criminal case of theft by deception.  Turns out there are at least 5 victims so far, and his modus operandi  included writing bad checks as well.  That would explain the $25,000 case as it involved a bad check and not just a promise to pay.  So I'm sure that if I had demanded payment in advance, he would have just given me a bad check.  And since he immediately sells the hay that he takes from people, he has washed his hands of it and gotten his money before the original seller can reclaim the property.

I called yesterday morning, and they had submitted the report to the county attorney, and he definitely wants to prosecute it, so I think an arrest will be forthcoming very soon.  I just hope he doesn't get tipped off in advance and leave the state before they can arrest him.  The sheriff said that the loser douchebag is already on probation, and that is probably what has kept him around the area this long in the first place.  I also found out that with the larger case pending, I would not want to file a separate complaint in small claims court because if and when he is found guilty in the theft case, the judge will order him to pay restitution, and that would take precedence over any small claims judgement. 

[CNS]

do something on the civil side.  get in front of everyone else for when they start divvying up his assets.  You may get a nice meth trailer out of it. 


If Restitution takes precedence, great.  If there is no restitution, a small claims judgement would be there to give you a vehicle to get back some.  I would get a judgement against him and let restitution take over if it happens. That way, you are covered either way.

[dontfeedthebear]

That is good advice and I will be filing suit tomorrow since I have been out of town the past few days.  Also, I am supposed to meet with the sheriff tomorrow to provide the weight tickets, etc., and he said he will personally go over there and charge the guy.  Hopefully he does not go on the run before that, but at least I got the guy's tag number in case they need it.  I will keep you all posted on how it ends up playing out.

 

I filed my complaint with the sheriff's office on Thursday last week and provided all information I had.  They wrote up a report on it to send to the county attorney and included all the complaints together to bring the charges against him in one criminal case of theft by deception.  Turns out there are at least 5 victims so far, and his modus operandi  included writing bad checks as well.  That would explain the $25,000 case as it involved a bad check and not just a promise to pay.  So I'm sure that if I had demanded payment in advance, he would have just given me a bad check.  And since he immediately sells the hay that he takes from people, he has washed his hands of it and gotten his money before the original seller can reclaim the property.

I called yesterday morning, and they had submitted the report to the county attorney, and he definitely wants to prosecute it, so I think an arrest will be forthcoming very soon.  I just hope he doesn't get tipped off in advance and leave the state before they can arrest him.  The sheriff said that the loser douchebag is already on probation, and that is probably what has kept him around the area this long in the first place.  I also found out that with the larger case pending, I would not want to file a separate complaint in small claims court because if and when he is found guilty in the theft case, the judge will order him to pay restitution, and that would take precedence over any small claims judgement.

Sounds like a major headache.  Good luck and hope you get yours out of all this

[WillieWatanabe]

if anything, you learned a lesson. 

[ben ji]

Had about $500 worth of fishing gear stolen last night 

Went fishing along the KS river(by 435 bridge) yesterday afternoon with the dog. Was in a rush to get everything loaded before the cats game and ended up leaving 4 poles and my fishing bag along the side of the road.

Did not realize I had left everything there until I got home and by that time there was only an hr before the cats game. My gear was on the side of a gravel road that I had never seen any cars on before so I figured it would be fine until after the game.

Went to get it after the game and it was all gone