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Kansas State Football / Re: WAKE UP! IT'S A NEW DAY!
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Kansas State Football / Re: KstateHD.TV
« on: August 23, 2017, 01:39:28 PM »I would not be surprised if they actually equalled the money in advertising sales for a broader audience not blocked by a pay wall.
this would be my take too but i'll defer to mir since he called the decision titanically dumb. i'll have to assume he has more information than you or i
ESPN3 pays rights fees to K-State for FB game (+ other sports). Those fees will be equal or greater than money K-State used to get from kstatehdtv subscriptions. Plus greater distribution / easier access /more exposure.
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Kansas State Football / Re: KU football is hurting
« on: September 19, 2016, 10:24:30 AM »They love to talk about all the money their donors have, but it's never there for football. Not sure why they always assume someone is there to write a huge check to cure whatever it is that ails them.
Maybe they should have a bake sale. Ours have done really well over the last few years.
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Kansas State Football / Re: BSFS Expansion Thread
« on: April 12, 2016, 11:44:00 AM »you guys are going to love how different this new section looks from the outside compared to new vanier. new vanier limestone white and expensive looking. new section outside yellowish and cheap looking. go cats.
It is the same precast material that is used on the outside of the northwest corner. It isn't limestone.
why did they do that? I mean on a scale of 1-10 it's bothersome level is at a 3. but there's no denying that it looks kind of stupid. like, vanier looks super nice and the sides look kind of dumb because they look cheap and butt up right against vanier. why not just do them all the same?
It looks fine. Same material is used on the inside above the entrance tunnels. Saves some $ to use on inside awesomeness.
I don't think its meant to look like limestone, more like fancy cinder blocks or concrete.
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Kansas State Football / Re: BSFS Expansion Thread
« on: April 12, 2016, 11:25:59 AM »you guys are going to love how different this new section looks from the outside compared to new vanier. new vanier limestone white and expensive looking. new section outside yellowish and cheap looking. go cats.
It is the same precast material that is used on the outside of the northwest corner. It isn't limestone.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 08:06:02 PM »you can spin it however you want, cc, but this was a terrible hire of a "nice", but incompetent coach.
Believe me, I have not and will not spin or defend BW.
you were just doing it by implying we all need to just be happy with good ol' fighting purple cats ksu clawing their way to the tourney every 3/5 years. as others have already said tho, thx for posting. you're mentality provides great insight into the current admin.
I personally don't think missing postseason completely is ok, much less twice in a row, so I am certainly not telling/implying you to be ok with it.
I don't speak for anyone in the admin, and I may not be representative of their views. But I can guarantee you the Fitz article will be / has been read. I would remind you all again that Currie does not like losing.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 02:47:23 PM »the whole discussion is pointless, btw. no one gives a crap if we've been bad enough that it'd be fair to poor webersie if we run his ass. the issue is that the overwhelmingly majority of kstate fans would prefer for underwood to be the kstate mbball coach. it's about underwood, not weber.
I agree, if Weber was fired tomorrow, I don't think there would be much explanation needed from Currie, and the national perception would be that it was justified -- the reaction to Stanford's coach firing proves that.
Hypothetically, what if Currie preferred someone like Buzz Williams to Underwood? Or some other coach that has won at P5 level?
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« on: March 20, 2016, 02:39:51 PM »It's confusing to me that you can look at the scope of his tenure as an AD and say the main focus has been winning. I think he is trying to achieve those aforementioned goals and then ride out when/if the winning comes.
Like I said, you will see what you want to see. There has been a good deal of success with John here. We won big 12 conf titles in two sports that had never won them before. FB was in top 10 not even 15 months ago and has six straight bowls. Track has produced two of the greatest athletes ever to attend KState, and national champions. You can also say FB was down last year and MBB has been down even further the last two years. I think Frank leaving, oscar replacing him, and the last two seasons is a significant trend. I do not agree with you that it demonstrates a lack of focus on winning.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 02:29:30 PM »are we using each other's real names now, captain? i wouldn't wish to be rude.
Yeah, was poor form by me. Apologies.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 02:27:41 PM »So you're saying you think Weber should have been fired after last season?I think NCAA's 3 out of 5 years is acceptable at KSU.
Would need to be NIT other two years tho, I think. I personally don't think K-State should ever miss postseason.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 02:17:58 PM »I think NCAA's 3 out of 5 years is acceptable at KSU.
Would need to be NIT other two years tho, I think. I personally don't think K-State should ever miss postseason.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« on: March 20, 2016, 02:16:22 PM »Currie's goal is to always maximize profits.
There are many people on here who believe Currie's main goal is make himself look good. Others say it's having no NCAA infractions. Others say its to get another job. You say its to maximize profits. Others say its something else.
Whatever you think it is, you will find evidence to support it.
It's all four of those things. They aren't that different. They all link together to get a very complete picture of his priorities. He cares about finances and not having infractions, to make himself look good, in order to get another job. It's not that hard.
The very best thing to make an AD look good is to win. That's it. Everything else, from profits to image to career advancement, will follow.
It is very confusing to me that people think Currie would rather be financially stable in basketball than win.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 02:05:03 PM »
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« on: March 20, 2016, 02:02:55 PM »Currie's goal is to always maximize profits.
There are many people on here who believe Currie's main goal is make himself look good. Others say it's having no NCAA infractions. Others say its to get another job. You say its to maximize profits. Others say its something else.
Whatever you think it is, you will find evidence to support it.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 01:59:40 PM »OMFG, Captain. Frank's worst rough ridin' season was the NIT in 5years and Currie was more than happy to let him walk. This after the program had gone to one rough ridin' post season in like 15yrs. Yet I'm supposed to see oscar's consecutive years of no post season as some sort of success. OMG. eff you, dude. eff you and everyone in the administration that thinks like you. Seriously.
Your responses are, as usual, disingenuous at best. and it's insulting. however it does provide insight to how the administration thinks, which is appreciated.
I am interested to hear how you think me saying I am confused is disingenuous.
"Yet I'm supposed to see oscar's consecutive years of no post season as some sort of success. "
I have never said this or indicated this. I stated a fact and asked a question. That it triggered such an angry response indicates you have a larger issue in play.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 01:54:22 PM »eff Currie, eff oscar, eff K-State Basketball, and especially eff you captaincrap and the rest of you rough ridin' excuse making losers. You deserve this piece of crap coach, piece of crap team, and piece of crap loser excuses from a worthless, crybaby, excuse-making, loser coach
So angry. I don't believe I made any excuses. I apologize for offending you.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 01:22:27 PM »you can spin it however you want, cc, but this was a terrible hire of a "nice", but incompetent coach.
Believe me, I have not and will not spin or defend BW.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« on: March 20, 2016, 01:06:59 PM »Captain, what do you think Currie would rather have:
1. Rejuvenated basketball fan base
2. $3mm head start on East Side Club redo.
what do you mean by rejuvenated fan base
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 01:04:49 PM »OMFG, Captain. Frank's worst rough ridin' season was the NIT in 5years and Currie was more than happy to let him walk. This after the program had gone to one rough ridin' post season in like 15yrs. Yet I'm supposed to see oscar's consecutive years of no post season as some sort of success. OMG. eff you, dude. eff you and everyone in the administration that thinks like you. Seriously.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 01:00:14 PM »Our school should never miss the post season and never post a sub-.500 record. Doing either, for any reason, is failing. I don't believe anyone would find this unreasonable
I agree.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 12:59:22 PM »
Couple things...
He wasn't coldblooded about Angel -- the kid wanted to transfer, so he transferred.
He didn't get rid of Frank.
At the time oscar was hired, Brad had never been a major college head coach. At the time most of the folks on here were campaigning for Doug Gottlieb, not Brad. A bit revisionist history to say Currie should have seen Brad's potential at the time, when most K-State fans didn't either.
I'm one of your biggest supporters here, but your 2 about Frank is a bold face lie and makes people here really question you.
JC and FM were not best friends, but they don't have to be. There was no reason FM couldn't have remained as kstates head coach. He was offered a contract extension.
Frank was/is very popular, so it is very easy to blame Currie for Frank leaving (making him unhappy, not trying harder to keep him, etc). Frank was ultimately the one who decided it wasn't sustainable here and chose to leave. At minimum, they both are to blame (and to be fair, I think several people on here have said this). It isn't accurate to paint Currie alone as the reason FM is gone.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Impact of Ticket Sales on Overall Revenue
« on: March 20, 2016, 12:48:04 PM »It was a good post and gives you a good idea at what Currie cares about.
Confirmation bias does not provide any insight to what another person cares about.
I believe that Currie's main priority is the financial health of the department, and then it's the compliance. If we can win cleanly, and in a fiscally responsible manner, then he is happy.
I do not believe for one second that he doesn't do a cost analysis when making major decisions. He's too good of a money manager for that. I absolutely believe he has probably done the math on replacing oscar for Brad and has that argument in the quiver if need be.
My contention has been that it will take the big money to push for a change to make him move on oscar. And I don't believe that they've made that demand because none of them want to write a check for his buyout, and Currie doesn't want to take that money out of his budget because the cost/benefit isn't there.
People see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear.
Your belief that Currie is an accountant first and foremost influences the conclusions you are making out of basic budget numbers.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 12:42:03 PM »Re: Angel, see Leti's allegations. We will never hear Currie on the record on the matter due to FERPA. http://www.bringonthecats.com/2014/5/2/5675012/k-states-athletic-department-wont-release-leticia-romero-should-they
Leti was wrong, either accidentally or intentionally.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27475.msg1098233#msg1098233
No one else, including Angel himself, has given any indication that Angel was not able to transfer when he wanted.
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 12:25:35 PM »What is slightly better? Would having a Texas Tech type season be enough to keep him? That kinda what I am envisioning we will be next year and would be my worst nightmare. I either want him to suck or totally blow our minds and have us in the top 4 of the big 12 and get a 4 seed.
This is where I'm at. A Texas Tech type season would be the worst. Unfortunately, it seems like the most likely scenario.
A Texas Tech season would give us an 8 seed in the tourney, and would give us a five year stretch of 3 NCAAs in 5 years with a conference title.
Over any 5 year period:
1. what is your definition of "success" for K-State basketball
2. what do believe is john currie's definition of "success" for K-State basketball
3. does style matter (personality of coach, likability, having a brand etc) more than the results
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Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball / Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« on: March 20, 2016, 12:08:43 PM »Currie was pretty cold blooded about Deb. He was very cold blooded about Leti and Angel. He was certainly methodical and cold blooded on getting rid of Frank. He wants to win, he just will not tolerate NCAA issues (self-preservation? anti-Frank?) I think we all agree that the oscar hire was a disaster that we all saw coming and Currie did not. Brad would've been a much better hire in retrospect, but although he had support at the time and would've been less controversial among K-Staters, he was also more of a risk.
Couple things...
He wasn't coldblooded about Angel -- the kid wanted to transfer, so he transferred.
He didn't get rid of Frank.
At the time oscar was hired, Brad had never been a major college head coach. At the time most of the folks on here were campaigning for Doug Gottlieb, not Brad. A bit revisionist history to say Currie should have seen Brad's potential at the time, when most K-State fans didn't either.