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Re: CHIEFS KINGDOM, REID DAWN RISING
« Reply #14425 on: March 12, 2018, 01:13:08 PM »
It's been a pleasure watching you play Tamba  :cheers:
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Re: CHIEFS KINGDOM, REID DAWN RISING
« Reply #14426 on: March 13, 2018, 07:09:30 AM »
Sammy Watkins?!?!  If we can somehow get him to live up to the potential...

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« Reply #14427 on: March 13, 2018, 07:20:15 AM »
Also Anthony Hitchens
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« Reply #14428 on: March 13, 2018, 07:53:25 AM »
Sammy Watkins?!?!  If we can somehow get him to live up to the potential...
I have a hard time getting excited for this. He never really got going with the Bills. When he was in a legit offense, he was mediocre for the Rams while a number of other WRs surpassed him. I’m sure he wasn’t cheap.

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Re: CHIEFS KINGDOM, REID DAWN RISING
« Reply #14429 on: March 13, 2018, 08:19:57 AM »
Sammy Watkins?!?!  If we can somehow get him to live up to the potential...
I have a hard time getting excited for this. He never really got going with the Bills. When he was in a legit offense, he was mediocre for the Rams while a number of other WRs surpassed him. I’m sure he wasn’t cheap.
3/$48 but I'm guessing not much guaranteed beyond year 1
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« Reply #14430 on: March 13, 2018, 08:25:09 AM »
I heard $30M guaranteed.

I think Hitchens is a good signing.

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« Reply #14431 on: March 13, 2018, 08:25:14 AM »
Sammy Watkins?!?!  If we can somehow get him to live up to the potential...
I have a hard time getting excited for this. He never really got going with the Bills. When he was in a legit offense, he was mediocre for the Rams while a number of other WRs surpassed him. I’m sure he wasn’t cheap.
3/$48 but I'm guessing not much guaranteed beyond year 1

$30M guaranteed

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« Reply #14432 on: March 13, 2018, 08:25:48 AM »
Sammy Watkins?!?!  If we can somehow get him to live up to the potential...
I have a hard time getting excited for this. He never really got going with the Bills. When he was in a legit offense, he was mediocre for the Rams while a number of other WRs surpassed him. I’m sure he wasn’t cheap.
3/$48 but I'm guessing not much guaranteed beyond year 1

$30M guaranteed
Oh wow, hadn't seen that
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Re: CHIEFS KINGDOM, REID DAWN RISING
« Reply #14433 on: March 13, 2018, 08:38:31 AM »
JFC, how many goddamn WR do we need????

The OL is a disaster, our entire defense is in shambles, and walrus is going to blow half our cap space on skill position players.
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« Reply #14434 on: March 13, 2018, 08:39:05 AM »
Do we even have a DB on the roster anymore?
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« Reply #14435 on: March 13, 2018, 08:48:19 AM »
JFC, how many goddamn WR do we need????

The OL is a disaster, our entire defense is in shambles, and walrus is going to blow half our cap space on skill position players.
Our OL ranked in the middle of the league and had the top rusher last year.

Do we even have a DB on the roster anymore?
They've made two moves for DB's this off season, so yes.

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« Reply #14436 on: March 13, 2018, 09:04:34 AM »
JFC, how many goddamn WR do we need????

The OL is a disaster, our entire defense is in shambles, and walrus is going to blow half our cap space on skill position players.

Albert Wilson is going to the Dolphins and Chris Conley is coming back from a major injury. Watkins and Hill stretching the field open things up for Kelce and the run game.

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Re: CHIEFS KINGDOM, REID DAWN RISING
« Reply #14437 on: March 13, 2018, 09:09:33 AM »
Great move.  Watkins + Hill + Conley + Kelce + Hunt for Mahomes  :love:

Guys...the defense was in shambles.  It can get worse, but not by much.  Mahomes will be throwing so many TD's we just need a middle of the pack D. 
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Re: CHIEFS KINGDOM, REID DAWN RISING
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« Reply #14439 on: March 13, 2018, 10:29:07 AM »
So here is a quick explanation on how Salary cap works and where KC is.

1) in the offseason, the top 51 contracts (by Dollar amount) count against the Cap.  Dead money from past contracts also counts (so Maclin has 4.8M and Smith 3.6M and a few others) KC has 16.5M in dead money for this year

2) You also have a rollover cap from the previous year. This is money you did not use or go over the previous year cap.  The 2018 Salary Cap is 177.2M and KC has 2.6M in rollover (so 179.8M)

3) our current top 51 contracts was at 152.7M.  So you want to be a little under the 179.8 max, so KC probably has roughly 24M they are under

4) The signings of Watkins, Hitchens and Anthony Sherman will go on the books shortly.  These 3 contracts will knock current contract #49-51 off the Top 51.  49 50 and 51 are counting about 1.5M right now against the cap

5) we don't know right now what these 3 new signings will count against the 2018 Cap. Should know sometime soon.    Of course if the Chiefs made any more cuts, they could even have more money off the Cap (as long as that player is among the Top 51 contracts)

6) Lastly, the draft picks for the upcoming 2018 draft.  The Chiefs top 4 picks (2nd 3rd 3rd 4th) will cost about 2.9M against the cap.  Those 4 will knock off the "then current #48-51 contracts off the Top 51". So basically when they draft and sign those 4 draftees, it will cost us about $700,000 against the cap.

The Chiefs 6th and 7th round picks will not be among the Top 51, so they won't count against the Cap here in the offseason


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Re: CHIEFS KINGDOM, REID DAWN RISING
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« Reply #14441 on: March 13, 2018, 12:07:00 PM »
I like getting another playmaker on offense, but 3 for 48 is pretty steep.  He had a solid rookie year (982 yds) and a very productive 2nd year (1047 & 9 TD in 13 games). Last 2 years, injuries and not that productive. 

From reading up on Hitchens, he definitely can be a 3 down LB as he is pretty good in pass coverage.

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Re: CHIEFS KINGDOM, REID DAWN RISING
« Reply #14442 on: March 13, 2018, 12:52:58 PM »
Our defense will be atrocious and Mahomes is never going to have time to make his second read, so it doesn't matter that we're paying for seven "playmakers". This is how it ended in Philadelphia.

Nevermind that WR is like the most disposable position on the field besides RB.
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« Reply #14443 on: March 13, 2018, 01:06:26 PM »
The Oline is not that bad. They're only losing Fulton.

Outside of Peters, who you hate, they're not really losing any impact players from last season. And getting Berry back.

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« Reply #14444 on: March 13, 2018, 01:09:10 PM »
lol at FSD's meltdown.

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« Reply #14445 on: March 13, 2018, 01:45:22 PM »
Defense really does need to improve.  Improving OL, which wasn't awful, would also seem more valuable to a young QB. 

Not a fan of the Watkins signing.  Seems like he's showing everyone that he isn't that good and nobody believes him.

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« Reply #14446 on: March 13, 2018, 01:54:29 PM »
the only thing watkins could bring is running double 9 routes w tyreek about 16 times per game and forcing teams to have 2 deep safeties all the time. should help open up things for kelce & hunt.

also mahomes can actually throw that route a couple times per game and it will be awesome.

but as FSD said our pass protection is a bit concerning

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« Reply #14447 on: March 13, 2018, 01:58:14 PM »
They're going to make more moves, whether it be through FA or the draft. The fact "they're going for it" with a 1st year starting QB is very promising. It's fun.

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« Reply #14448 on: March 13, 2018, 02:16:32 PM »
I'm not sure how much help they can bring in through FA once the Watkins deal is finalized.

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Re: CHIEFS KINGDOM, REID DAWN RISING
« Reply #14449 on: March 13, 2018, 03:46:55 PM »
Jordy is a free agent. I would love to see him as a Chief.


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