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_FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« on: November 19, 2013, 01:31:57 PM »


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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2013, 01:55:20 PM »
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Even with numerous poor stretches of football, K-State’s offense managed to produce more points per play and yards per play than any TCU opponent this season

this tasty tasty nugget really adds some perspective on this win. I feel comfortable saying we have the league's 2nd best offense (didnt run stats on this)

premium stuff as always from the best in the biz

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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2013, 02:11:15 PM »
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Even with numerous poor stretches of football, K-State’s offense managed to produce more points per play and yards per play than any TCU opponent this season

this tasty tasty nugget really adds some perspective on this win. I feel comfortable saying we have the league's 2nd best offense (didnt run stats on this)

premium stuff as always from the best in the biz

 :lynchmob:

Off points per play:

Name   PPP
Baylor   0.76
Oklahoma State   0.54
Kansas State   0.52
Oklahoma   0.43
Texas Tech   0.42
Texas   0.41
TCU   0.35
West Virginia   0.33
Iowa State   0.28
Kansas   0.26

Off yards per play:

Name   YPP
Baylor   8.5
Kansas State   6.3
Texas Tech   5.9
Oklahoma   5.9
Oklahoma State   5.7
Texas   5.6
West Virginia   5.3
TCU   5.0
Kansas   4.5
Iowa State   4.4

Def points per play:

Name   PPP
Baylor   0.23
Oklahoma State   0.24
Oklahoma   0.30
Kansas State   0.32
TCU   0.33
Texas   0.36
Texas Tech   0.39
Kansas   0.42
West Virginia   0.42
Iowa State   0.50

Def yards per play:

Name   YPP
Baylor   4.2
Oklahoma State   4.7
TCU   4.9
Oklahoma   4.9
Kansas State   5.2
Texas Tech   5.3
Texas   5.4
Kansas   5.7
West Virginia   5.9
Iowa State   6.1


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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2013, 02:15:04 PM »
God bless Daniel Sams.

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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2013, 02:18:05 PM »
holy crap baylor

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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2013, 02:20:08 PM »
holy crap baylor

Yeah, I really hope some scenario plays out where we get to watch them play FSU.

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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2013, 02:30:02 PM »
holy crap baylor

Yeah, I really hope some scenario plays out where we get to watch them play FSU.

FSU's Off points per play is .794. Yards per play is 7.85.

FWIW, the best BCS team PPP in the last 10 years is 05 UT at .683 PPP.

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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2013, 02:35:54 PM »
holy crap baylor

Yeah, I really hope some scenario plays out where we get to watch them play FSU.

FSU's Off points per play is .794. Yards per play is 7.85.

FWIW, the best BCS team PPP in the last 10 years is 05 UT at .683 PPP.

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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2013, 06:49:39 PM »
I remember last year ChIRP using x/per play as the metric and someone (mocat maybe?) convinced me that x/per drive was a better metric.  I realized that PPP tends to reward teams that are explosive over teams that are consistent movers, and I wanted a measure of efficiency rather than explosivity.  For example taking 10 plays to score a TD was seen as less efficient then taking only 3, and I think both teams are equally efficient as scoring as long as they score a TD every drive.

For comparisons sake:

Off Eff (pts per drive)
Baylor4.24
Kansas State3.11
Oklahoma State2.93
Oklahoma2.88
Texas Tech2.83
Texas2.61
West Virginia2.02
Iowa State1.95
TCU1.88
Kansas1.73
 

Def Eff (points allowed per drive)
Baylor1.37
Oklahoma State1.5
TCU1.7
Oklahoma1.76
Kansas State1.94
Texas1.95
Kansas2.05
Texas Tech2.14
West Virginia2.15
Iowa State2.58

I think its interesting that KSU, while not necessarily as explosive as OSU, has a more efficient offense.  In fact we have the 18th most efficient offense, just between East Carolina(!) and Stanford.  Meanwhile (as likely suspected) our defense is only ranked 46 between Penn State and Syracuse.

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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2013, 07:06:49 PM »
East Carolina(!)

Ruffin! He was almost ours!

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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2013, 12:32:00 AM »
Good job, mocat maybe, on convincing our guy Chings to adopt Points per Drive. I agree, it's a good metric.

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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2013, 06:51:54 AM »
rough ridin' turnovers (and not turning the other team over) have killed us.

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Re: _FANalysis: All Jacked Up
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2013, 07:00:22 AM »
rough ridin' turnovers (and not turning the other team over) have killed us.

This has been the single biggest factor this year in our losses.

I see the logic in points per drive, but it seems both metrics end up pretty similar.
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