Weis is a Bill Belichick washout.
Literally hasn't been successful ANYWHERE since. ANYWHERE.
Charlie Weis has more BCS Bowls in five years of head coaching experience than Old Balls does in nearly two decades. LOL.
effing RC Slocum, Frank solich, Bob Toledo, Rick Neuheisel, and many, many more have BCS bowls as well. And, like Weis, they have also been fired. Great college head coaches don't get fired. We have one headed to the hall of fame btw.
I should have mentioned that the coaches named above and many, many more actually built programs up and had more consistency than Weis he basically took a Notre Dame ship that was sailing well w/ seasoned veterans and then wrecked it into the dock.
BTW, I noticed you didn't respond to my latest post. I'll accept that as your tap out. It is very difficult to explain why your new head coach was fired from his head gig (that had every resource to be successful) and why he tanked (15-21) when he started getting his own players. Did you ever care to notice that he wants players that he recruited to Notre Dame and FAILED there? It sounds to me like not learning from your first experience.
BTW, Leach wasn't interested. (comical)
Old Balls was essentially fired from K-State after stinking up the joint in '04 and '05. Then he came back once K-State realized that they couldn't win without him.
As for your other post, we've been over the Charlie Weis hire ad nauseum. Notre Dame fans were on the KU boards after he was hired and essentially said that the reason he failed at Notre Dame was because he didn't have the right coaches on the defensive side of the ball, and also because Tyrone Willingham left some huge gaps on the depth chart that took a while to refill. It was also Weis' first (college) head coaching job. Bottom line... the guy has won at every single level he's been at, and he's considered one of the best offensive minds in the game. You don't have that much success at the pro level if you can't coach. I'm pretty confident that Weis learned from his mistakes at Notre Dame, and will be able to at least succeed at a similar level as Mangino. They are essentially the same type of coach, except Weis was offensive coordinator for the Patriots, not Oklahoma.
So you're one of these idiots who proclaims that Snyder was fired? Yeah, sure. The guy is a legend and a hall of fame coach. The only guy to ever win in Manhattan and "he really didn't retire...he was pushed out". Yep, two years after winning the conference he was "fired"...got it.
A piss poor excuse to say Charlie Weiss would have been successful if he had the right coaches. It's a structural and cultural issue with Weiss just as it is with most unsuccessful coaches. I don't think anybody here will disagree that Weiss possesses a very good mind for the offensive side of the ball...nobody. But being a head coach is a CEO where your stamp is on every bit of the program. Snyder has won with numerous assistants and coordinators...some good and some not so good. He went 10-3 last year w/ what nobody would consider a great coaching staff.
Basically what you're saying about Weiss is that...
1) he had more talent than what he knew what to do with (your words, not mine)
2) he had every and any resource imaginable to be successful (Notre Dame speaks for itself in this regard)
3) he had a national name coming off two super bowl wins
4) he was handed a team with veteran players who had developed skills
and he failed. Again, Snyder went 10-3 with a roster lacking "more talent than he knew what to do with", meager resources with which to be successful, and an average coaching staff.
These are the facts and they are indisputable.