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hemmy:
I am a Michael Jordan fan, I was just saying the whole actual vs portrayed image can be misleading.

asava:
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--- Quote from: felix rex on July 02, 2012, 05:04:18 PM ---See, Lebron's great miscalculation ("the decision") failed because it never considered how much Americans loved Cleveland and wished that they themselves could spend their lives their working tirelessly toward the promise of never quite succeeding and then being blamed for everything.

What an bad person.

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It's not about a love for Cleveland. It's about people believing that if Lebron were really as good as advertised, he would have been able to win his championships anywhere.

Also, the Lebron hate existed before he left Cleveland, but it was nothing like it is now. Lebron wasn't being blamed for anything. He was being praised for taking a bunch of nobodies to the NBA finals.

"The Decision" wasn't the problem. If Lebron had created the hoopla to announce he was staying in Cleveland, I don't think he would have nearly as many haters. People don't hate him for "The Decision". They hate him because he left to go play with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh. Most people just point to "The Decision" because they don't want to admit the truth.

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People believing ANY single person can will a team to win in a 5 man game set themselves up for disappointment. No team that Cleveland put or was going to put on the floor would have won against any of the current bulls, celtics, spurs, or thunder squads that have at least 2 legitimate all star candidates.

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The Thunder were the worst team in the NBA when they drafted Durant and OKC is a smaller market than Cleveland. So, KD>Lebron?

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What has KD accomplished that Lebron didn't at Cleveland?

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Nothing, but he will win a championship for OKC very soon.

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If Lebron would have been surrounded by Westbrook, Perkins, Ibaka and Harden, he would have won a championship. The Thunder without Lebron would easily be better than Cleveland without Lebron.

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How could they possibly have gotten all of that talent to OKC (smaller market than Cleveland)? Everyone keeps saying that Cleveland never would have gotten any talent and that Lebron would have never won a championship there. I think he would have, fwiw, but apparently Lebron did not.

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Because OKC made some of the best draft picks of past decade? How is this even comparable?

mcmwcat:
only an idiot would have stayed in the shithole that is Cleveland.  those sewer rats should feel blessed that James didn't bolt earlier.

Nuts Kicked:

--- Quote from: mcmwcat on July 03, 2012, 07:40:56 AM ---only an idiot would have stayed in the shithole that is Cleveland.  those sewer rats should feel blessed that James didn't bolt earlier.

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That may be, but if Lebron really cared about what people think about him (and he does, very much), he should have stayed. I will agree that he never should have gone there in the first place, though. He could have just held out and forced a trade before he ever played and people would not still care about that.

chum1:
yeah, lebron's pr has been a total disaster.  it can't be easy to both be regarded as the best and also disliked.  it was funny when he was majorly irked because people weren't readily lapping up whatever crap he served them.

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