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Trump owns Russia
« on: January 11, 2017, 05:27:52 PM »


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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2017, 05:31:02 PM »
Thus far, Trump is perfectly fine with allowing this to create a major rift between himself and the Republican party. Why???

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/11/marco-rubio-is-not-playing-nice-with-donald-trumps-secretary-of-state-pick

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2017, 06:29:24 PM »
Because his party is Russia, duh
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2017, 07:14:39 PM »
Biggest military buildup on the Russian border since the Cold War.   

War mongers chomping on the bit.

US Brigade moving into Poland. 

Sad

But according to the resident lib War Hawks, war with Russia would be fantastic! 

Sad

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2017, 07:27:15 PM »
Biggest military buildup on the Russian border since the Cold War.   

War mongers chomping on the bit.

US Brigade moving into Poland. 

Sad

But according to the resident lib War Hawks, war with Russia would be fantastic! 

Sad

Is Dax taking posting cues from Donald?

SAD!

Or is Dax actually the Donald?

Intriguing!

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2017, 07:28:02 PM »
Biggest military buildup on the Russian border since the Cold War.   

War mongers chomping on the bit.

US Brigade moving into Poland. 

Sad

But according to the resident lib War Hawks, war with Russia would be fantastic! 

Sad

So the world should let them have Ukraine too?  :dunno:

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2017, 07:51:46 PM »
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

I mean liberal British Media bias and all but...

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2017, 10:30:55 PM »
The New War Hawks.   

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2017, 10:39:26 PM »
i am not sure i have suggested or advocated war

very confused by this weird agenda you are pushing

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2017, 12:01:49 AM »
The 35 page document that supposedly came from Russia rhat fake things about Trump was spread by Senator War N. Kill McClain.  He passed this dirt to the press and.FBI.  He wanted to destroy Trump I guess.  This was wierd stuff.  Such things as Trump hiring prostitutes to whizz on a bed Obama slept on.  Claims that Trump guys were overseas making shady deals when really they were in US.  Maybe McCain wants a war.  He needs.to be stripped of his Arm Services committee chairthingship.
http://nypost.com/2017/01/11/john-mccain-i-gave-russia-blackmail-dossier-on-trump-to-fbi/

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2017, 02:01:11 AM »
Turns out the piss thing wasn't that big a deal, relatively.


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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2017, 09:53:13 AM »
I think trump is basically adopting Obama's soft on Russia stance.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2017, 10:00:56 AM »
It seems the War Hawks in Congress are pretty pissed about the "get along" nature of recent testimony.   Rubio and MaCain are about to lose their mind over this. 

Sad, so sad.

There's just some things not worth fighting for, but apparently those douchebags want to anyway.


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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2017, 10:06:31 AM »
John McCain is such a weirdo, hard to believe he was a nominee for President
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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2017, 10:29:45 AM »
did Obama handle the Ukraine situation properly?  Looks like he sure did

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2017, 10:44:09 AM »
did Obama handle the Ukraine situation properly?  Looks like he sure did

Respective to Ukraine, he probably did a decent job, I mean, unless the New (Old) War Hawks want to go to war over Crimea (which it sounds like some do).

Respective to Russia in general, did a pretty crappy job. 


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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2017, 10:49:29 AM »
did Obama handle the Ukraine situation properly?  Looks like he sure did

Respective to Ukraine, he probably did a decent job, I mean, unless the New (Old) War Hawks want to go to war over Crimea (which it sounds like some do).

Respective to Russia in general, did a pretty crappy job.

What did he do that was crappy?

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2017, 11:14:08 AM »
did Obama handle the Ukraine situation properly?  Looks like he sure did

Respective to Ukraine, he probably did a decent job, I mean, unless the New (Old) War Hawks want to go to war over Crimea (which it sounds like some do).

Respective to Russia in general, did a pretty crappy job.

What did he do that was crappy?

I guess this is really my question as well.  Russia has engaged in numerous actions that have escalated tensions.  Many of these require some formal response (old war hawks always prefer aggression and posturing, especially when Russia is involved).  Our response has seemed to be rather measured which is why I don't understand the "new war hawks" angle.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2017, 11:31:13 AM »
You really live in a weird little world if you think Russian's actions are unilateral in nature and not provoked.   Let's review, since the supposed end of the Cold War:

-U.S. and partners have removed the regime of a Russian ally in Iraq

-Broken up a former Soviet client state and removed the government of a Russian ally in the Balkans, predominately via a nearly 80 day bombing campaign that violated the NATO charter on every level.   In turn NATO has brought all of the "Balkanized" countries in that area under the NATO umbrella, and likely emboldened radicalized Islamic entities in the region causing a security threat for Russia

-U.S. and partners have removed a Russian aligned regime in Libya, for basically no good reason outside of the fact that they were one of the "Axis of Evil" countries (that had given up on WMD pursuit and were actually fighting against AQ)

-The U.S. has placed ABM systems around the periphery of Russia limiting the effectiveness of their only real deterrent (which has caused them to escalate their nuclear technology and increase spending on conventional forces) 

-The U.S. and proxies have decimated the country of another Russian client state, again, for essentially no good reason in Syria

-The U.S. has been antagonistic towards Iran, a Russian client state

The list goes on and on.   But it's all part of the "Grand Chess Game" mentality which has taken a hold of U.S. geo-strategic thinking.

Yet, somehow, we thought there would be no backlash. 






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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2017, 11:32:13 AM »
You really live in a weird little world if you think Russian's actions are unilateral in nature and not provoked.   Let's review, since the supposed end of the Cold War:

-U.S. and partners have removed the regime of a Russian ally in Iraq

-Broken up a former Soviet client state and removed the government of a Russian ally in the Balkans, predominately via a nearly 80 day bombing campaign that violated the NATO charter on every level.   In turn NATO has brought all of the "Balkanized" countries in that area under the NATO umbrella, and likely emboldened radicalized Islamic entities in the region causing a security threat for Russia

-U.S. and partners have removed a Russian aligned regime in Libya, for basically no good reason outside of the fact that they were one of the "Axis of Evil" countries (that had given up on WMD pursuit and were actually fighting against AQ)

-The U.S. has placed ABM systems around the periphery of Russia limiting the effectiveness of their only real deterrent (which has caused them to escalate their nuclear technology and increase spending on conventional forces) 

-The U.S. and proxies have decimated the country of another Russian client state, again, for essentially no good reason in Syria

-The U.S. has been antagonistic towards Iran, a Russian client state

The list goes on and on.   But it's all part of the "Grand Chess Game" mentality which has taken a hold of U.S. geo-strategic thinking.

Yet, somehow, we thought there would be no backlash.

Man, we have absolutely owned those wimps.  Good on us

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2017, 11:44:28 AM »
Trump is going to be a lot more wary of Putin now that he knows Vlad was filming his piss parties.

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2017, 11:14:57 AM »
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According to a senior U.S. government official, Flynn phoned Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak several times on Dec. 29, the day the Obama administration announced the expulsion of 35 Russian officials as well as other measures in retaliation for the hacking.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-did-obama-dawdle-on-russias-hacking/2017/01/12/75f878a0-d90c-11e6-9a36-1d296534b31e_story.html

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2017, 11:48:47 AM »
Anger over diplomacy?  Keep The New War Hawks away from the nuclear football. 

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Re: Trump and Russia
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2017, 11:53:03 AM »
War Hawks would be a pretty great college or high school sports mascot, you guys!

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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2017, 12:37:44 PM »