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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« on: August 13, 2014, 04:20:47 PM »
Would you say that no riots have been caused by angry people, only opportunists?

You've substituted "riot" for "looting" - I'm not sure if there's a reason for that or if you mean the same thing, but I'll take it to mean looting. In answer to your question, I have no idea. Never say never, I suppose.

Actually, it looks like you responded to my post about rioting with talk about looting.  Why should we exclude things like vandalism or assault?

Do you think that every time there is a disruptive event, there is also a riot?

Of course not. What's your point?

I was wondering about your theory that disruptive events cause people to riot.  Do you think that every riot is caused by a disruptive event?  At what frequency do you think disruptive events cause riots?  What sorts of things account for the difference between situations in which there are both disruptive events and riots and situations in which there are disruptive events but no riots?

Why do you care about correctly classifying the intentions of the rioters?

I think it's important to correctly identify the intentions of the looters because attributing the looting to the Brown shooting (1) is making excuses for lawless behaviour, and (2) unfairly tarnishes the lawful protests.

Why not just say that there is no excuse for lawless behavior?

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The Buffalo Wild Wings Friday Snack-Off Board / Re: SdK
« on: August 13, 2014, 03:43:45 PM »
Be yourself, SDK.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« on: August 13, 2014, 02:20:04 PM »
I've never heard of a riot that isn't started out of anger. Or of one that was purely the result of a single incident.

Sports Riots

Well, that's interesting!  I guess what I was trying to get at is that plenty of riots happen when lots of people are super angry about something.  That is to say that they wouldn't have happened otherwise.  Why do the thoughts, intentions, or lack thereof of the rioters matter in these cases?  They seem to me to be more side effects than causes.

People don't just decide "Man, I'm really pissed about this and you know what will make me feel better? Stealing a new pair of Air Jordans." Looters take advantage of disruptive events - for example, a hurricane or protest crowds assembling in response to a racially-charged issues - and the diversion of law enforcement resources to manage those events, to start looting. They then hide behind the guise of "I'm just so hurt and angry about police oppression that I gotta steal some stuff!" as an excuse for their lawless thuggery. To be fair to the looters, though, most of them aren't actually saying this - the media paints the narrative for them.

Would you say that no riots have been caused by angry people, only opportunists?  Do you think that every time there is a disruptive event, there is also a riot?  Why do you care about correctly classifying the intentions of the rioters?

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« on: August 13, 2014, 01:30:14 PM »
I've never heard of a riot that isn't started out of anger. Or of one that was purely the result of a single incident.

Sports Riots

Well, that's interesting!  I guess what I was trying to get at is that plenty of riots happen when lots of people are super angry about something.  That is to say that they wouldn't have happened otherwise.  Why do the thoughts, intentions, or lack thereof of the rioters matter in these cases?  They seem to me to be more side effects than causes.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« on: August 13, 2014, 11:25:14 AM »
I've never heard of a riot that isn't started out of anger. Or of one that was purely the result of a single incident.

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The Buffalo Wild Wings Friday Snack-Off Board / Re: Wine Thread
« on: August 12, 2014, 11:54:28 PM »
Oz Winery. My mom got me three different reds.  :Yuck:

On one hand, it seems unfair to compare them against people who have been at it for a long time with far superior resources.  On the other, they charge $20-25 per bottle.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« on: August 12, 2014, 11:17:17 PM »
If you want the police to change, rioting seems to me like the way to go. It forces the city to get involved.

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The Buffalo Wild Wings Friday Snack-Off Board / Re: Robin Williams
« on: August 12, 2014, 10:03:58 PM »
Metal is not a joking matter. Understood.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: StL County Cops Shoot Teen
« on: August 12, 2014, 09:32:13 PM »
Go Reds!


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I can't even tell you guys how much of a Cincinnati thing this is.

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2014/08/11/german-clothing-store-to-open-at-moerlein-brewery.html

Chum are you from Caney? Just curious. I know of an EMAW that moved to Cincy.

Nope. Manhattan townie!  :Lolrun:

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The Buffalo Wild Wings Friday Snack-Off Board / Re: travel thread
« on: August 12, 2014, 06:24:24 PM »
Emo was enjoying his ass off in that place. The entire time he was at LEGO, he was daydreaming about his return trip to Square Café & Kiosk.

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The Buffalo Wild Wings Friday Snack-Off Board / Re: travel thread
« on: August 12, 2014, 06:02:17 PM »
The Square Café and Kiosk is the center of life and excitement. It is at this restaurant where you meet with family and friends, but also here where you say farewell before your journey begins.

The Square Café and Kiosk opens at the first morning departure. During the day you will be served exciting hot dishes, that are made quickly while you wait.


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The Buffalo Wild Wings Friday Snack-Off Board / Re: Robin Williams
« on: August 12, 2014, 05:03:19 PM »
http://salinapost.com/2014/08/12/sheriffs-statement-on-death-of-actor-robin-williams/

 :surprised:

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Mr. Williams was cool to the touch with rigor mortis present in all of his extremities and livor mortis positioned appropriately for the position he was located in. The inside of Mr. Williams’ left wrist had several acute superficial transverse cuts. A pocket knife with a closed blade was located in close proximity to Mr. Williams. The pocket knife was examined and dry red material was located on the blade which appeared consistent to dried blood. It is unknown at this time if the dried red material is in fact blood or if it is Mr. Williams’ blood, but scientific testing will be conducted to evaluate its investigative value.

man, clinical analysis is just so. . . clinical.

also, livor mortis is new to me.

It's a fancy term for blood settling or pooling after death. I believe it is more common to see it referred to as postmortem lividity.

I don't know how you can understand a word of those barking/growling/whatever vocals.

what are you referring to?

We all know where you learned about that stuff.

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The Buffalo Wild Wings Friday Snack-Off Board / Re: Robin Williams
« on: August 12, 2014, 04:32:03 PM »
http://salinapost.com/2014/08/12/sheriffs-statement-on-death-of-actor-robin-williams/

 :surprised:

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Mr. Williams was cool to the touch with rigor mortis present in all of his extremities and livor mortis positioned appropriately for the position he was located in. The inside of Mr. Williams’ left wrist had several acute superficial transverse cuts. A pocket knife with a closed blade was located in close proximity to Mr. Williams. The pocket knife was examined and dry red material was located on the blade which appeared consistent to dried blood. It is unknown at this time if the dried red material is in fact blood or if it is Mr. Williams’ blood, but scientific testing will be conducted to evaluate its investigative value.

man, clinical analysis is just so. . . clinical.

also, livor mortis is new to me.

It's a fancy term for blood settling or pooling after death. I believe it is more common to see it referred to as postmortem lividity.

I don't know how you can understand a word of those barking/growling/whatever vocals.

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Does Cincy have a rival? Louisville? Columbus? Indy? Cleveland?

Not really.  Lots of people in the metro area don't like the Steelers.  And the St. Louis Cardinals.  But I think it's pretty limited to the sports teams.  Some people in Cleveland don't like Cincinnati, but that's largely a one-sided thing. 

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cincy seems really easy going. what makes a cincy townie's blood boil?

Right now, there is a segment of city people who are SUPER sensitive about the amount of bike lane construction going on.  REAL cities have an abundance of bike lanes, you know?  Let me show you pictures of the wonderful, beautiful bike lanes in cities like Paris and Amsterdam.  Let me tell you about the virtues of bicylcle transportation!

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Interesting background on "The Nati" - the first I heard it used was on the Jim Rome show in the 90s


too bad this one didn't stick
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Cincinnati for many years was known as "Porkopolis", a name perhaps not much coveted by the citizens of the Queen City but justified possibly by the large pork interests centered here for several decades

Everyone knows that one and is fine with it.

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Can you ask for less than 4lbs of cheese on your spaghetti or is that frowned upon?

Not possible. No one could ever conceive of such a thing.

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what is there abbreviation for it if it isn't cincy? please don't tell me they say the whole four syllable word every single time.

If they're talking to other locals, they would say the name of their neighborhood or suburb. Otherwise, they're not saying "Cincinnati" enough to be tedious.

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chum, local thoughts on the use of "cincy"?

Not commonly used by locals, but they would be indifferent and not miss a beat if they heard it used.  I can't think of any names that would bother them.

the Nat?

Is "The Natti" frequently used by suburban bros? that would surely bother some hipsters.

Is the tennis tourney like a huge deal there?

People in the suburbs would say "downtown" or "the city" and might do so while saying they don't go there because it's too dangerous.

"The Nati" had urban roots, I'm pretty sure, and primarily used, though not all that much, by longtime black residents.

Hipsters in Over the Rhine might take offense if you say that they live in some poor, adjacent neighborhood like Avondale rather than "OTR." They have lots of OTR pride.

I can't imagine that as many as 1 out of 10 people are aware when the tennis tournament is happening. The pics on news sites and such talking about the upcoming tournament all featured Nadal, last year's champ. No one has a clue that he is not playing this year.

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chum, local thoughts on the use of "cincy"?

Not commonly used by locals, but they would be indifferent and not miss a beat if they heard it used.  I can't think of any names that would bother them.

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But, yes, this thread can be about any town that no one gives a crap about, including Cleveland.

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