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hey joda.  I think I may have forgot what you said by the time I finished writing my post.

I think so, absolutely nothing wrong with anything Oakland has done in the last month. I think that The Royals very easily could have acquired Milone and could have made a better deal than Sam Fuld. The Gordon+Almonte thing was pointing out that Dayton is a moron who Beane has fleeced in the past and probably will again.

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 31, 2014, 11:47:26 PM »

Know what trade today really annoys me? Tommy Milone for Sam Fuld. Definitely wouldn't mind having Milone and you'd think Aoki has a pretty comparable value to Fuld.

I heard Danny or someone on 810 say this day and they were wrong too.

Fuld>>>Aoki

Lol, Aoki sucks but you're severely overrating Fuld if you think his value is that much higher. He was DFA'd by Oakland earlier this season. Throw in a low level prospect and the value is equal.

Though Beane would probably convince Moore Milone was worth Gordon+Almonte

Look.  You don't know baseball, but you seem like you may enjoy it.  So I will help you out here:

1) Yoenis Cespedes is valuable, but nearly as valuable as many others think, I would rather have Alex Gordon.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/sam-fuld-and-completing-the-as/

2) Fuld/Vogt/Gomes is a pretty great platoon advantage.

Vogt vs R: .365/.919 OPS
Gomes vs L:  .302/.831 OPS

so they don't have Cespedes and his .303 OBP and .764 OPS out there, yes they are worse defensively but the offense is likely very close to Cespedes

but they also got back an elite defensive replacement in Sam Fuld to field in late innings for either guy or to add another lefty in the lineup if Vogt is DH'ing/RF or Catching.

3)  Milone is ok and yes it looks bad to trade a useful player for a guy you DFA'd earlier, but Milone asked for a trade after essentially losing his rotation spot.

Don't forgetthe overall picture is this:

OAK Loses
Prospects:
Addison Russell/SS/AA/2014 #7 BA Prospect
Billy McKinney/LHP/A+/2013 1st Rd Pick (HS)
Draft Pick

Major Leaguers:
Tommy Milone LHP (2018 FA)
Dan Straily RHP (2019 FA)

OAK Gets
Jeff Samardzija RHP (2016 FA)
Jason Hammel RHP (2015 FA)
Jon Lester LHP (2015 FA)
Jonny Gomes LF (2015 FA)
Sam Fuld (2015 FA)

So yeah, it was absolutely a "win now" trade.  But Tommy Milone is your objection?  Gmafb.  They got something of value back that helps them now.  He is absolutely more valuable than Almonte, especially to the A's given the context.

  :facepalm:

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 31, 2014, 10:09:13 PM »
This series with Oakland is going to hurt. I wish I could be positive about it.

No Cespedes to ass rape Guthrie  :dunno:

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 31, 2014, 09:35:18 PM »

Know what trade today really annoys me? Tommy Milone for Sam Fuld. Definitely wouldn't mind having Milone and you'd think Aoki has a pretty comparable value to Fuld.

I heard Danny or someone on 810 say this day and they were wrong too.

Fuld>>>Aoki

Lol, Aoki sucks but you're severely overrating Fuld if you think his value is that much higher. He was DFA'd by Oakland earlier this season. Throw in a low level prospect and the value is equal.

Though Beane would probably convince Moore Milone was worth Gordon+Almonte

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 31, 2014, 08:57:15 PM »
Know what trade today really annoys me? Tommy Milone for Sam Fuld. Definitely wouldn't mind having Milone and you'd think Aoki has a pretty comparable value to Fuld.

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 30, 2014, 08:07:44 PM »
I hear Kottaras is available. I bet he'd make a pretty good backup catcher.

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 30, 2014, 08:03:35 PM »
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Teams closing in on Bonifacio are Kansas City San Francisco , Baltimore and Seattle .

 :facepalm:

last ten years of the royals in this one sentence right here folks

Hard to point fingers at KC for a move that three other playoff contenders are also looking at.
i hope to Christ you are ge'ing right now

He doesn't walk, and is poor with the bat, but he can play multiple positions, and be a decent utility man. He'd be sixth on the Royals in WAR. Definitely not exciting, but nothing to lose sleep over.

 :ROFL:

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 30, 2014, 02:52:28 PM »
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Teams closing in on Bonifacio are Kansas City San Francisco , Baltimore and Seattle .

 :facepalm:

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 30, 2014, 02:49:32 PM »
why doesn't dyson start? we all know the cain, dyson, gordon outfield is the best set up.

the royals are 0.582 in games he has appeared in (on D, best stats I could find) and 0.505 overall or 0.368 without him...

and yes i have an obsession with dyson.  :love: :love:

'Cause Ned

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 30, 2014, 02:02:15 PM »
Bartolo Colon, Aj Burnett, John Lackey and Andrew Miller?  Does this mean Vargas isn't recovering well?

Wut?

"Pitchers that the Royals have inquired about" for two hundred, Alex.

Got that, I'm just trying to figure out what that has to do with Vargas, especially since Miller is a reliever

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 30, 2014, 01:21:54 PM »
Bartolo Colon, Aj Burnett, John Lackey and Andrew Miller?  Does this mean Vargas isn't recovering well?

Wut?

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Some teams are going to be very happy when they trade for MacMath and/or Blake.

 :Wha:
Would fucking take

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When you go the route of building a great team and then acquiring a great QB to lead them, you end up with issues having to keep that great team together, then the mediocre journeyman QB you find has a 3-4 year window at best. How long is the window for the Colts to win a Super Bowl right now?

It depends on if Luck develops into a true elite QB. If he does 10-15 years, if he doesn't 3-5 until he gets an enormous contract that causes the roster around him to degrade unless they draft ridiculously well.

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 28, 2014, 11:25:38 PM »
I'm not so sure our "window" ends this year, are you guys?

It doesn't and that's exactly why they should trade Shields either way. More than likely a team would give up a serviceable young pitcher in a trade for Shields who could be plugged in and put up solid numbers with this defense and could slot in with Duffy and Ventura to make a solid pitching staff for the next few years.

Except Dayton would make the trade and probably end up messing it up, so whatever.

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fanning. you are being very small minded in this thread. you and the majority of chiefs fans/the front office have never had the guts to dare to be GREAT. you (and joda echoed something similar) want to build a team by first building a great defense, and a great coaching staff, a strong running game and then acquiring a decent qb.

it's already been done. right here. in kc. for like a decade. the marty-led chiefs were exactly that.

great defense? check.
great coaching staff? check.
decent qb? (kreig, montana, bono, grbac) check, check, check, check.

that formula produced a grand total of 2 playoff wins. 2. it produced a hall of fame lb, an all-pro defensive end. several pro bowl corners and safety's and dt's, great seasons out of running backs. and it couldn't get it done on the big stage.

stop. just stop. for the love of god, please stop.

The '90s Chiefs played in a different NFL than the one now. That NFL you absolutely needed to go out and build your franchise around a QB and the Chiefs never did that. Now a franchise QB demands so much money you're left with holes all around your roster. The Chiefs in the 90s where built much the same way SF and Seattle are built now, they just never went and got a Russell Wilson of Collin Kaepernick.

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@robneyer: I am thrilled to report that @nwanaturals are UNIFORMLY stirrupped tonight in North Little Rock.

 :love:

Hoping for pics later

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Other than the truly elite QBs, in today's NFL you can't expect to just draft a QB and have them lead you to the Super Bowl. The Chiefs could have taken any number of QBs in the last decade and some I really wish they had, but none of them would have gotten us a Super Bowl win or even an appearance.

Take the three listed earlier (Rogers, Kaepernick, and Wilson). There's a pretty common theme to all of them. They where drafted after quality teams had already been built. Are all three great QBs? Sure (I'm not sold on Kaep completely, I think he's good not great) but none of them would make the Chiefs much more than they are right now. They might win a playoff game which would be nice but if that's your real goal there's something wrong.

I agree that I hope last year wasn't the pinnacle. I also hope last year didn't unreasonably raise expectations for this year and next. There's still a ton of holes on the roster and some bad contracts. The Chiefs need a couple drafts to stockpile young, cheap talent then they need to really start looking for a QB that fits with that talent that can be plugged in and develop with them.

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this would register somewhere along with what color gatorade the team drinks for me in interest.

Gatorade color is an integral part of the game. Certain colors/flavors just don't provide the same results. A- sources saying that a 2 parts lemon-lime to 1 part orange combo is 6-1 over the last 2 years while 2 parts red to 1 part lemon-lime is 0-3

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You guys




#getthosegeckos

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CF3's KC Sports Board (oh and some other sports too) / Re: The Royals
« on: July 27, 2014, 07:53:31 PM »
Guys, your ol' buddy joda here. I've been off the grid this weekend and just finished reading up on the last few days of this thread. Quite enjoyable (though the ending sucked) and excellent moding cf3 (fix the ending though would ya :impatient:)

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i think it was implied that it must be swung around like a helicopter but i feel like i am the only one doing that

Yes, I believe our dicks are supposed to stay out until we're done swinging them. Malek signing was the call to get your dicks out and prepare, when he does stud things in a Catz uni then we swing. So basically I think we need to prepare to have our dicks out as long as Malek is here.

Also don't know how this effects our shEMAW brethren. Can't really swing their vags so the sexism of gE strikes again
That's what strap-ons are for, my friend.  :D

I should have seen this post coming

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