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Auntie Mae's ComboFan Board / Re: travel thread

« on: May 19, 2013, 11:32:31 AM »

Nothing worse than old people relating with each other in an airport lounge by bitching about the entitlement of the younger generations.

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BOOZECATS (and other sports we don't care about unless we are winning) / Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!

« on: May 19, 2013, 11:05:18 AM »

Guys, can we promise right fucking here that we won't let this thread tear us apart?

promise*.

*(ednksu is already my least fav poster on this blog, so don't let my responses to him worry you emo..although i am trying to be nice to him fwiw..that previous dumbass comment notwithstanding.)

you'd make a hell of a KU fan 

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BOOZECATS (and other sports we don't care about unless we are winning) / Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!

« on: May 17, 2013, 01:40:30 AM »

lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.

Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

the race card? really? that's what you're playing? you're only reinforcing J-Dub's Elway boner when you go about it in such a dumbass way.

LOL at anyone who doesn't recognize that black running backs aren't seen as replaceable and not worthy of the same commemoration as white QBs by the NFL, especially in these types of situations.

So just to be clear, the reason some view Elway as a better QB than Marino or Montana is because Terrell Davis is black. Great point numb nuts.

So....do you ever breath with your mouth closed....or are you just looking at 100% mouth breathing all the time.....?

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Kstate cat football: There is Nothing Better on the Earth / Re: MHgronK Master Thread: Now With More GRONK

« on: May 16, 2013, 10:11:48 PM »

someone tell honorary emaw hero cat's arm to quite being such a FP, TC

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Chance that President Obama resigns Master Thread

« on: May 16, 2013, 07:24:35 PM »

They're going to have to drag him out of there kicking and screaming.  No way he'd ever resign.  He's an bad person of unprecedented proportions.

Yeah that bad person....with his muslim, fascist, socialist, gayist, blackness agenda.

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BOOZECATS (and other sports we don't care about unless we are winning) / Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!

« on: May 16, 2013, 07:16:06 PM »

lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.

Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

the race card? really? that's what you're playing? you're only reinforcing J-Dub's Elway boner when you go about it in such a dumbass way.

LOL at anyone who doesn't recognize that black running backs aren't seen as replaceable and not worthy of the same commemoration as white QBs by the NFL, especially in these types of situations.

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BOOZECATS (and other sports we don't care about unless we are winning) / Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!

« on: May 16, 2013, 07:13:26 PM »

lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.

Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

TD made his superbowl dreams come true, not his career's legacy.

Disagree.  His legacy is entirely defined by his super bowls.  His legacy if he didn't win the super bowls would cement him as a good/great QB, hot a top 5.  No one sits backs and thinks about how John Elway was the prototype QB in pro football like they do with Marino for example.  Look at his first 3 super bowl trips, utter embarrassments for a QB.  Against the Pack he was around 50% with no TDs.
I'm sorry that isn't good enough for people to put him above a host of others players.

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Kstate cat football: There is Nothing Better on the Earth / Re: BSFS Expansion Thread

« on: May 16, 2013, 07:05:18 PM »

Drove by again today, they are up on man lifts installing the brackets for the lights on the east side. They will be pretty far outboard on the upper deck. More so than I thought.

tease

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BOOZECATS (and other sports we don't care about unless we are winning) / Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!

« on: May 16, 2013, 05:23:08 PM »

lulz at puds who put Elway near the top.

would say dumbass outed, but that's already been well established..

so - dumbass confirmed.

Talk to TD who made his career.

But hey, I wouldn't expect much from most people here to acknowledge the black guy.

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BOOZECATS (and other sports we don't care about unless we are winning) / Re: RANK THE GREATEST NFL QB'S OF ALL TIME!!!

« on: May 16, 2013, 01:56:11 PM »

lulz at puds who put Elway near the top. 

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BOOZECATS (and other sports we don't care about unless we are winning) / Re: KSU Bat Cats 2013:

« on: May 16, 2013, 01:24:49 PM »

Is anyone else kinda hoping they lose on Friday so they can be there for the clinch on Saturday?

Forgive me and my lack of big12BBtiebreakerIQ but I thought we first could get a share and than outright with 2 wins?

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Benghazi Hearing

« on: May 16, 2013, 12:49:14 PM »

So basically, you're against the CIArab Spring.

fify

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Benghazi Hearing

« on: May 16, 2013, 12:10:53 PM »

So in essence the U.S. engaged in regime change in Libya because Gaddafi was a bad guy and wasn't for all inclusive freedom for the various sects of people in Libya?

Golly, I thought regime change based on those ideals was wholly unacceptable.

"Local Insurgents" is oxymoron of n'th degree in this day and age and in that region of the world, and when F-15E's and Cruise Missiles are flying overhead in order to support the "insurgency" than it's really state sponsored regime change.

Once again, just because our interest align doesn't mean its a conspiracy like you want it to be. 

Also your colonialist views betray your points once again when you confine these people's identity to the western constructed states imposed on them.

I'd actually buy into what you're saying, but when the British Special Forces are rolling in, the "rebels" are pictured using some very high tech gear only found in Western military usage, and the F-15's are dropping guided munitions overhead . . . it all rings a little hollow.

They're using motorola talkabouts from Sam's club! That doesn't prove that its a western operation either, all it shows is that they had material support, something we already knew and that the US and other western countries have admitted to.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Chance that President Obama resigns Master Thread

« on: May 16, 2013, 12:01:04 PM »

The AP issue is a much larger indictment of the Obama administration that anything as yet.  That flies directly at the foundation of the 1st amendment.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Benghazi Hearing

« on: May 16, 2013, 11:58:05 AM »

So in essence the U.S. engaged in regime change in Libya because Gaddafi was a bad guy and wasn't for all inclusive freedom for the various sects of people in Libya?

Golly, I thought regime change based on those ideals was wholly unacceptable.

"Local Insurgents" is oxymoron of n'th degree in this day and age and in that region of the world, and when F-15E's and Cruise Missiles are flying overhead in order to support the "insurgency" than it's really state sponsored regime change.

Once again, just because our interest align doesn't mean its a conspiracy like you want it to be. 

Also your colonialist views betray your points once again when you confine these people's identity to the western constructed states imposed on them.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Benghazi Hearing

« on: May 16, 2013, 11:38:53 AM »

Oh please EDN, I doubt Fox News puts the lack of response by the military in Benghazi in the context of a $1 Trillion Dollar Plus annual military/industrial/complex.   Those types love that stuff.

The only person who sounds like a Fox News Guy is your conservative hard on inducing comment about "Overwhelming Force" in 24 hours.

yeah these two statements kinda conflict.  But more to the point, I sound like someone who has read a book and not talking points.
The entire point of the Airborne is to provide quick reaction force upto the Division level.  Its not about getting a hard on about our forces, its the reality of the structure of the American military. 

 

I think you're just lashing out because things like your "indigenous populations" rising up thoughts are being excoriated again and again as a myriad of news sources from the NYT on down are outlining the heavy CIA/Western Intelligence involvement in all of this upheaval.   Libya was obviously a NATO/Western Intelligence operation and lots of people are asking why?   Not saying Gaddafi was a good guy (but hey, the U.S. is more than willing to arm their favorite thug regimes and Theocratic States to the teeth), but he had renounced terrorism, had renounced WMD desires etc. etc.   But wait, didn't he aspire for a North African Union that would be less dependent on Western economic mechanisms and influence . . . hmmm??    Have the Chinese been exerting more influence in North Africa in regards to things like energy production?  Funny how AQ seems to pop up in places the Chinese are poking around in, obviously forcing the U.S. to send in JSOC/Military resources and other "aid".

So once again, a right and proper series questions to be asking is . . . .why was Benghazi teaming with CIA spooks?   Were they there to weed out AQ, or get the usual AQ suspects ready to ship off to Syria, or was it some sort of CIA rendition destination?

Here is the inherent problem with your position which removes all Arab/ME/North Africa agency in their OWN affairs.  The US has been trying to get rid of Gaddafi for DECADES.  CIA, MI6 (especially) have been putting a large amount of assets behind his removal since Pan Am with NO success.  Just because the US is being opportunistic with its foreign policy or security objectives doesn't mean that the local insurgents didn't do the majority of the heavy lifting.   

Aside from your alex jones, gold standard, african union talking point, which is much more radical than i gave you credit for, Gaddafi was a hated man, his tribe were a hated people by large segments of the country. 

One school of thought is that the CIA was buying weapons that Libyan militias had captured from the Libyan military for export to the "freedom fighters" in Libya.

Multiple reports of arms that the former Yugoslavia sold Gaddafi's military being found in the hands of Syrian "rebels".

Actual Libyan "Freedom Fighters" showing up on the battlegrounds of Syria is extremely well documented.   

In the vast majority of these cases, these types of operations need state sanctioned intelligence agencies in order to be effective. 

Its been proven, as I've already mentioned, more of these resources went south to Mali and was once again the cause for direct (colonial) western intervention.  Now I'm sure there were a number of fighters and resources that went to Syria, but the timelines, logic, and common sense don't back that those movements occurred on a large scale like you're supposing.

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BOOZECATS (and other sports we don't care about unless we are winning) / Re: NBA Playoffs Thread

« on: May 16, 2013, 12:52:48 AM »

know your role

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Benghazi Hearing

« on: May 15, 2013, 10:56:11 PM »

I'm a little confused about how someone who doesn't watch fox news know so much about fox news.

Are all of your grievances based on fox news hearsay?  The facts of the Benghazi spectacle and your strange conspiracy theory of a conspiracy theory make you look like a delusional imbecile.

Where did I say I didn't watch their programming?  I watch their info-tainment trash to know what others are thinking and where they are getting their talking points from.  Also, Mygyn Kylly  , but not for her mind.

Somebody royally fucked up in either gravely underestimating the situation or just simply failing to put ourselves in a position to execute, but that happens fairly often. The fact that they tried to feed us this bullshit about some youtube video that makes amatuer porn look like Oscar winning cinematography being the reason they attacked our consolate is just mind-boggling.

Yeah. I really don't understand the people who don't think the government blew it here.

i don't think anyone is against the argument that the government could have done better, but rather, people on the right seem to think obama intentionally had these people killed.

which is even more stupid.

This.  The Benghazi issue is a terrible example of government gone wrong, compartmentalizing, and in fighting. 

Now if you really wanna get sand in your vagina, lets discuss the AP records seizure, which is turning into another example of republican hypocrisy, lookin at you Issa.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Benghazi Hearing

« on: May 15, 2013, 07:45:23 PM »

The whole military could or couldn't have done something debate is an enormous rabbit hole in this discussion.

The government lied to you and then told lies to cover up their lies and people are dead and its supposedly nobody's responsibility to make sure this crap doesn't happen again. 

Edna, I'm certain you would benefit most from fox news as you clearly have no idea what the eff is really going on ever.

oh man you totally burned me, brah



And no, its been pretty well proven, that if you really want to know what is actually going on, foxnews is the last source for news. 

And the military capabilities talking point was a critical point of discussion for months until legitimate journalist proved all the talking points wrong on what resources were in the region and how long it would have taken to get support in theater.  Remember the Obama left them behind talking point?  Yeah its still a big deal, even when proven wrong.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Benghazi Hearing

« on: May 15, 2013, 07:22:02 PM »

edn most things seem to be a personal afront to you . . . it was just a general comment, and I don't read Fox News. 

The vast majority of countries in this world of ours don't spend a Trillion plus dollars a year on a military/industrial/intelligence complex, so "projecting overwhelming" force in a world full of countries who spend less than 1% annually on mechanisms and methods to kill people isn't really that impressive.  Then again, I suspect most of those countries could line up enough forces to keep our military/industrial/intelligence complex bogged down for months.

For not reading foxnews you sure do copy all their points verbatim quite well.  Its not a personal affront, but I don't deal well with people who distort crap to fit their agendas.  The bottom line is that the Republican party through their mouthpiece foxnews, has been putting out these talking points for months even thought they admit they are baseless.

I honestly think half of your work in this thread is trolling Dax.  You know pretty well how government functions and how easily and often infighting, failures of communication, and turf wars cause governmental failure.

Other reading
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/benghazi-e-mails-show-clash-between-state-department-cia/2013/05/10/5ac8a650-b989-11e2-b94c-b684dda07add_story_1.html

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Benghazi Hearing

« on: May 15, 2013, 03:31:09 PM »

I do have to LOL a little at the "well the military just isn't suited for, you know, just doing stuff at the drop of a hat" talking point in regards to Benghazi.

I mean really, a Trillion plus dollar a year military/intelligence/industrial complex and we don't have anybody on alert for these kinds of things in a place like the Middle East and North Africa?

What happens when the Chinese fire one of the "carrier killer" anti-shipping missiles at us?  Do we have to convene meetings at every level of the Navy, conduct 2 years of research and write 15,000 pages of White Papers before we can react?

The foreign media was all over the AQ presence in Benghazi for months prior to the Embassy attack . . . but then again, we probably didn't want that out there all that much considering we used our "usual suspect" AL-CIAda types to overthrow Gaddafi to begin with.

6 hours to launch forces, 24 hrs to project nearly overwhelming force to nearly anywhere in the world, yeah I'd says thats pretty drop of the hat-ish. 

Also stop reading fox news.

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Auntie Mae's ComboFan Board / Steeplechase is serious business

« on: May 15, 2013, 12:34:00 PM »

http://outkickthecoverage.com/nashvilles-steeplechase-catfight.php

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BOOZECATS (and other sports we don't care about unless we are winning) / Re: KSU Bat Cats 2013:

« on: May 15, 2013, 12:32:50 PM »

I guess what I am trying to say is if I get my way, the crowd on Sunday (or Saturday) will be so cumulatively smashed and aggressively incoherent that if you were to take a wide angle view it would look like a non-coordinated version of "Harlem Shake" right after that guy says "con los terroristas" and everyone loses their crap...except it wouldn't be to music and it would likely be with a much faster tempo.

A crowd of townies?  You must be new to coming out to the Toint'.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Benghazi Hearing

« on: May 13, 2013, 06:29:47 PM »

I'm still trying to understand what the outrage about Benghazi is.  What is being covered up?

I understand the IRS thing. That's bullshit and some people should be fired. I don't know if that's criminal behavior or not but it should be.

Jets were within one hour away, and were told to stand down... the fighting lasted for some 7-8 hours.

out of what airbase?  Every legitimate news source has said air support would have had to come from Italy.  Fox news is the only place that pulled a bullshit talking point about and AC 130 (not really a Tactical CAS platform) and that was quickly debunked.

I think you'd be better off if you checked into foxnews now and then.  The fact that most people have no clue what a monster fuckup this is, is proof that you have to watch all news outlets to know what's going on.




Also, I don't think Hillary (Secretary of State at the time of the attack, FYI that's who runs the State Dept) has testified since the State Department has been exposed as full of crap in this matter.  She probably ought to explain that.

She testified 23 Jan and nothing substantial was proven than, just as now.  If Republicans want to stop making stuff up, creating conspiracies which they admit has no factual basis, maybe they should call her to testify again.  Your worn out rhetoric shows just how idiotic this whole circus is. 

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Benghazi Hearing

« on: May 13, 2013, 06:11:02 PM »

I'm still trying to understand what the outrage about Benghazi is.  What is being covered up?

I understand the IRS thing. That's bullshit and some people should be fired. I don't know if that's criminal behavior or not but it should be.

Jets were within one hour away, and were told to stand down... the fighting lasted for some 7-8 hours.

out of what airbase?  Every legitimate news source has said air support would have had to come from Italy.  Fox news is the only place that pulled a bullshit talking point about and AC 130 (not really a Tactical CAS platform) and that was quickly debunked.