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On Wednesday, Bruce Weber said the Wildcats are close to finalizing their 2013-14 schedule. And their first trip to Sprint Center won’t come until the Big 12 Tournament.

“Part of the problem with Kansas City is, if you are going to go there you want a good game,” Weber said by phone. “What happens the year after? You have to go on the road and play a quality opponent. Next year (2014-15) we have the Maui Invitational and the Big12/SEC challenge on the road. We already have some road games and a tough tournament.

“That was part of our dilemma. We looked for maybe the possibility of some teams playing us in Kansas City without a return, but we just couldn’t find a good enough opponent. I don’t think that is going to happen.”

 :facepalm:

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From McShay. What in the world...

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Questionable pick: WR Chris Harper (No. 123 overall) -- When it comes to players with character issues on the Seahawks, Harper could be one too many. We gave him a late-sixth-round, fringe-seventh-round grade. The Seahawks liked his speed, size and potential but there are enough character issues to cause concerns. Michael was worth it. Harper may not be.

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Don't know why this jerk doesn't just decommit already...

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Although committed to Kansas State, offensive tackle Robert Castaneda (Round Rock, Texas/Round Rock) ultimately will have a big decision to make.

After taking in the Texas Tech spring game -- an experience he gave the highest marks -- Castaneda said the Red Raiders are high on his recruiting list. Castaneda was one of the estimated 16,000-plus in attendance in Lubbock, Texas, for Saturday’s game, and he, his father and his younger brother all enjoyed the atmosphere and being around coaches and past, present and future Red Raiders.

“It was a 10 ... an easy 10, no question,” Castaneda said of the trip. “It was my second time up there; it was pretty satisfying. The spring game was really phenomenal. I had so much fun hanging out and meeting players.

“I loved the coaches. Their energy, man ... they’re young, hyper and ready to work. They’re just super full of energy.”

Castaneda, a 6-foot-5, 310-pound tackle, is being recruited to Texas Tech by receivers coach Eric Morris, someone Castaneda called “the best recruiter I’ve talked to so far.” While he enjoyed his trip, Castaneda confirmed he’s still committed to Kansas State.

That commitment will be monitored for the time being.

“The trip did make me take a step back and look at things,” Castaneda said. “I talked to my dad, and we had a 1-on-1 conversation at dinner [Saturday] night. It made it a big, broader view on how I feel about Texas Tech. If it keeps going like this, maybe my mind will change.

“Now that spring ball is coming to an end, I’m just going to let things play out and do my thing in high school. I’m just going to let them come to me now.”

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Part of his previous contract was a guaranteed extension to be negotiated by May 2014 if he won Big 12 Coach of the Year.

All things considered, extending only one season is about as much as we could have hoped for...

And at least Angel is staying?

We're doomed.

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http://www.kstatesports.com/allaccess/?media=384710

#28 looks pretty nice.  :dunno:

Also, did not show where a single one of Waters' passes wound up.  :sdeek:

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Here's the audio. The amount of self-validation that Bruce casually spouts is pretty obnoxious.

Will say though, highly enjoyed his best Rick Flair impression at 40 seconds in.  :lol:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/audio/1724-the-doug-gottlieb-show/the-doug-gottlieb-show-04-04-13-bruce-webber-kansas-state-head-basketball-coach/

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Why did Irving seem to get far too little PT in the second half?

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He is trying to impress NBA scouts IMO.

THE definition of talking out of ones ass.

Agree with you here, MIR, but just curious - have seen multiple posts in which you refer to your thoughts on JO. For those of us with short attention spans, can you summarize your thoughts on him?

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I don't think anyone (or much of anyone) is saying Spradling isn't a well below average Big 12 starting guard. He absolutely is and it'd be pretty much impossible to argue otherwise. But expectations or not, the reality is we don't have better options.

Tay's numbers extended to equivalent minutes as Will come to:

6.7 points
3 rebounds
4.18 assists
1 steal
1.5 TOs

Obviously they don't play the same position with the same four players alongside them often, which no doubt has an effect. But it's not like Tay has shown indications he'd be a major improvement. His FG% is the same, his FT% is worse, and he has a 2% higher 3 pt. The assists rate is better, which further suggests Tay should be getting all of the backup PG minutes instead of Will. And since Will isn't doing much of value, I have no problem with a more even share of minutes until one actually proves to be better. But the reason Will plays so much, and has now for three seasons, is as big an indictment on Tay as anybody. Love the guy, but just not a particularly good basketball player and even with more minutes don't expect him to suddenly turn the corner and be a step above Spradling. I still don't get why Bruce ran The Jet. Almost as bad as Orris over Gray. Would have been a valuable asset for this shooting challenged guard unit.

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Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

Dnr the rest of this thread, but its clear that berries n cream is the biggest dumbass probably ever

I appreciate your dedication to the cause.

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Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

Dear Shannon, I've noticed he's better that Will the TO machine. He tried to turn it over on our 2nd to lst possession. :facepalm:

LOL, I can't stand Will. Have said that many times.

I agree with _Fan. Will should never ever play PG. And Tay is a better on-ball defender. But Tay is a terrible 2. Don't see much of a difference between the two there and in fact Will's consistent non-contributions can sometimes be better than Tay's negatives at that position.

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Not sure if you've noticed, but Tay isn't very good.

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Yeah, still hate him, but he had a great game.

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Umm...

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Melvinson Hartfield's single father, 39-year-old Melvinson Tyrone Hartfield, was away at work at a Dallas school district warehouse while his five children stayed home. With three other siblings in a different part of the house, Melvinson and Martina found their way to a back room where a rifle sat mounted on the wall.

Full details as to what happened next remain somewhat a mystery to the public, but the end result was a fatal shot to Martina's head, later deemed an accident at the hands of her older brother.

 :frown:

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Ryan Wallace ?@call_me_WALLACE
All in all, I think his final Tweet from last night was a positive sign for K-State, but I'll work to find out more. Just have to wait & see

Welp, congrats Arkansas.

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I would love to know from Mr. Bread if Bruce settles into a go-to excuse at any point. Because he seems to have a pretty impressive arsenal.

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Not too long ago in Calvin I heard what I thought was a 12 year old girl discussing video games.. Favorites included FIFA, NCAA Football, etc. well it wasn't a 12 y/o girl it was Will Spradling hey Will how about a little less brick breaker and a little less brick shooting k thx bai

3 shots in 29 minutes.  :facepalm:

I have just come to terms with the fact Spradling is one of those people in life who get a ton of good things in life without ever having to earn them. In five years I fully expect him to be a VP at some financial institution without having done anything but play office politics well. Or have his dad call and complain.

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Everything considered, knowing what we know, this was a good night for the reclamation of K-State basketball.

There should be no more #teamburnitdown vs #teamhopeforthebest.

Bruce Weber is an awful coach. Stubborn, uncreative, irrational, unmotivating. Kougs nailed it. This exact team made us believe it could make a second weekend run last year. This season I would be shocked to make the NIT.

Every K-State fan should be hoping to finish this season with 7 wins and be done with this idiot. I'd say that's unfair to the players, but really the only two guys this year who don't deserve that based on their play and effort are Angel and DJ. Maybe Spradling. For god's sake, Will Spradling has played with more courage and focus than all but two guys on the team. What an embarrassment.

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Before pre-season NIT and GW games, I always assumed Mr. Bread and co were just being amusing and a bit jerkish in exaggerating what Bruce is like out there during a game.

REBOUND!!!!!!
MOVE!!!!!
NINO YOU'VE GOTTA (trail off without instruction)
Arms crossed the entire game, broken only to frantically run halfway onto the court arms waving for seemingly no reason.
Half-hearted attempt to stick up for player who has received bad foul call, ref ignores.

This is how I imagine fathers who know nothing about basketball but have been guilted into coaching their daughters middle school team would operate. Just awful.

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Why is Bruce so adamant about playing nine guys?

Diaz and Omari have no business playing.

I thought maybe it was an attempt to build confidence against bad competition, but those guys were getting real minutes today. Is this a normal Bruce thing?

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J.C. Washington (Houston/Yates)
2014, PF, 6-6, 190
Offers: Lamar
Strong Interest: LSU, Kansas, Wichita State, Texas A&M and Kansas State

Washington is a good glue guy -- make that a super glue guy. He has a great motor and competes with toughness on both ends of the floor. Washington scores by sprinting the floor on the break, on the receiving end of drop-off passes and short shots in and around the lane. He turns broken plays and loose balls into baskets with his hustle and nose for the basket. Washington rebounds in a crowd, in and out of his area and is a threat to ignite the break with a bust-out dribble. He is a stellar defender both as a communicator and a shot blocker. Washington was a treat to watch compete in route to his 28 points, 13 rebounds, 5 blocks and 2 assist.

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Irrelevant update: Jordan Bell to Oregon.

Relevant update: Iwundu named by Rankin a standout player at the RCS Sports Season Opener:

Wesley Iwundu (Westfield, Texas/Westfield)
2013, SF, 6-7, 180
Committed to Kansas State

Iwundu is a long and athletic wing who is a coast-to-coast threat on the break after he pulls down a defensive rebound. He is an unselfish player as well. Iwundu is a good ballhandler and excellent passer in drive, draw-and-kick situations. In the halfcourt, Iwundu uses his quick first step to slash to the basket where he drew fouls and finished pretty well. Iwundu can hit the open midrange jumper off the catch when his feet are set. He is a good rebounder and showed the ability to defend both wing positions.

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LOL, Frank.

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- South Carolina freshman center Laimonas Chatkevicius will miss six games after the NCAA determined he received impermissible benefits before enrolling at the school.

Gamecocks coach Frank Martin announced the suspension Sunday a few hours before the team began its season against Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

The NCAA ruled the 6-foot-11 Chatkevicius got benefits from his host family that weren't allowed before joining the Gamecocks. Chatkevicius is from Lithuania and played prep basketball at South Kent School in Connecticut.

Chatkevicius is among five freshmen on Martin's first team at South Carolina and is the team's tallest player. The penalty means he will not be eligible to play until Nov. 29 at St. John's.

The school also said that walk-on freshman Brian Steele was suspended because of athletic department policy.

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Sequele reportedly down to just K-State and Depaul. Does this mean that Atewe isn't happening?

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This seems useful to know... sorry if Luked.

With four undefeated teams on top and Oregon moving into the No. 3 spot in this week's BCS standings, the race for the BCS National Championship Game is hitting the home stretch.

The No. 1 Alabama Crimson Tide showed vulnerability Saturday at LSU, so nobody should be putting the Tide in the national title game just yet. But if Bama stays undefeated, the battle for the No. 2 spot could be compelling over the next four weeks.

Notre Dame is a long shot because of its position in the polls and remaining schedule. Looking at the point totals in the Harris and coaches' polls, simple math says the Irish are sitting at No. 4 on almost every ballot (worse than fourth by a few coaches), and their potential to move up is limited by having the weakest remaining schedule of the four contenders. But the Irish can still have a big impact on the race for No. 2 by affecting the computer rankings of Kansas State and Oregon.

Game results of past opponents and records of future opponents can have an influence on computers and voters. With that in mind, here are 12 games not involving the Wildcats and Ducks that could play a part in deciding which team ultimately gains the edge in the BCS standings:

12. Louisville Cardinals at Syracuse Orange (Nov. 10)
The impact would be minor, but little things can add up in the computers. Because USC beat Syracuse earlier in the season, a win by the Orange over undefeated Louisville would improve USC's schedule strength. And because Oregon and Notre Dame both play USC (the Ducks have already beaten the Trojans), this upset would give them a slight boost as well. Kansas State fans should be rooting for Louisville.

11. Michigan Wolverines at Ohio State Buckeyes (Nov. 24)
With Michigan being one of the better wins this season for Notre Dame and Alabama, those teams would both gain strength in the computers if the Wolverines go on the road and knock off what will be either an 11-0 or 10-1 Ohio State. Alabama will probably finish No. 1 in most of the computers if it wins out, so this isn't as big of a deal for the Tide as it is for the Irish. The truth of the matter is that it's hard to say whether Notre Dame being strengthened in the computers is good or bad for Kansas State. On one hand, it will make it more difficult for Oregon to jump Notre Dame. On the other hand, it might cause the Irish to finish ahead of the Wildcats in some ratings. Either way, it's sure to have an impact.

10. ACC Championship Game (Dec. 1)
If Miami can beat Virginia and Duke, it will win the ACC Coastal Division and could play an 11-1 Florida State in the conference title game. If that scenario plays out, an upset win by Miami over the highly ranked Seminoles would strengthen the computer profile of Kansas State and Notre Dame, since both beat the Hurricanes this season. Having a victory over another major-conference champion could help KSU with some voters in the résumé test against Oregon.

9. Stanford Cardinal at UCLA Bruins (Nov. 24)
On the surface, this looks like a game that Oregon would prefer to be won by Stanford, because the Ducks play the Cardinal (Nov. 17) and don't play the Bruins. But as of now, UCLA is the best possible opponent for Oregon in the Pac-12 Championship Game, and if the Bruins can get past USC, they should be 9-2 going into the Stanford game. Playing a 10-2 UCLA in the conference title game is the best-case scenario for the Ducks in the computers. Getting to play a team they haven't already beaten would probably make it the best-case scenario with the voters as well. Since Stanford is also a Notre Dame opponent, a win by the Bruins over the Cardinal would help Oregon gain on the Irish in the computers.

8. USC Trojans at UCLA Bruins (Nov. 17)
This game is significant for the same reason as the Stanford-UCLA game, because it gives Oregon a chance to play a 10-2 opponent in the Pac-12 title game.

But it's even more important to the BCS race, because a win by USC would set up the possibility that the Trojans could capture the Pac-12 South but lose to Notre Dame the following week, leaving the Ducks with a four-loss opponent in the conference championship game -- an opponent they already scored 62 points against on the road. And a USC win over UCLA would help Notre Dame's schedule strength.

7. Iowa State Cyclones at Texas Longhorns (Nov. 10)
6. TCU Horned Frogs at Texas Longhorns (Nov. 22)
It would have been hard to imagine after Texas' 63-21 loss to Oklahoma on Oct. 13, but if the Longhorns win these two games, they will be 9-2 going into the regular-season finale at Kansas State. The Wildcats are hurt by not having a conference championship game, like Oregon does, to get one extra game against a quality opponent.

But if Texas has only two losses when it plays K-State, the Wildcats would at least have the advantage of playing a higher-ranked opponent than Oregon on the season's final weekend. The Pac-12 title game is on Friday night, so KSU has the opportunity to make the closing argument of the national championship race on Saturday, Dec. 1. That makes these two games crucial for Kansas State to maximize the computer and poll impact of a win over Texas.

5. Oregon State Beavers at Stanford Cardinal (Nov. 10)
Oregon still has to play both of these teams, so the result of this game will have minimal influence on the computer rankings for the Ducks. But there's no question that an Oregon State win would put the Beavers in great position to be 10-1 going into The Civil War on Nov. 24, with only a home game against struggling Cal in between. OSU entering the Oregon game with only one loss would almost certainly make it a top-10 matchup, which is probably Oregon's only chance to get a top-10 win in the regular season. This could be a big deal if enough voters are comparing résumés -- and, therefore, best wins -- among the contending teams. Plus, it would give Oregon the opportunity to beat a top-10 team on a day that Kansas State doesn't play, which could be valuable to the Ducks in the polls. As is the case with the Stanford-UCLA game, the result Oregon needs would also hurt Notre Dame in the computers.

4. Oklahoma Sooners at West Virginia Mountaineers (Nov. 17)
3. Oklahoma State at Oklahoma (Nov. 24)
2. Oklahoma at TCU (Dec. 1)
Apologies to Baylor for assuming the Bears will lose in Norman this weekend, but I'm not making any assumptions on these other three games. All, however, are important to the Sooners winning out and finishing with a 10-2 record and a top-10 ranking. This would ensure both Kansas State and Notre Dame of having a win of higher quality than anything Oregon will have on its résumé. Even if Oregon State finishes 10-2, it won't be ranked as high as Oklahoma. That will be of value to the Wildcats and Irish in some computers, and it will be a consideration of some voters, especially since both teams won in Norman.

1. Notre Dame Fighting Irish at USC (Nov. 24)
As mentioned earlier, if USC has already won the Pac-12 South but loses this game to Notre Dame, it weakens the potential for Oregon's closing argument on Nov. 30. But this game sits at the top of the list because of the impact a USC win would likely have on the BCS race. Assuming Kansas State doesn't get much closer to Oregon in the polls, the Wildcats need to maintain a comfortable margin over the Ducks in the computers to have any chance of holding them off for the No. 2 spot.

That would be accomplished predominantly by having Notre Dame sit as a buffer team between Kansas State and Oregon in several computer ratings. A Notre Dame loss would allow the Ducks to rise another spot in every computer and gain enough ground on KSU in that part of the formula to take over second in the BCS standings. Barring a loss by Alabama or Oregon, Notre Dame falling to USC would more than likely end any chance Kansas State has of reaching this season's national championship game.

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