Snyder Retirement Coaching Search Master Thread

[MakeItRain]

What about mark Hudspeth?

Nope. I'm not sure he's a program builder or a recruiter. Being the best coach in the Sun Belt shouldn't translate into a top 20 job.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Hudspeth would be fine.  He had an extremely strong program at North Alabama and went deep into the playoffs almost every year.  He's won four straight bowl games and has really kicked a lot of ass in the Sun Belt.

If the last few offseasons have taught us anything, it's that you're going to be underwhelmed by who you hire.  Look up Hudspeth and where he was before ULL.  He's been pretty excellent everywhere.  That's a more impressive resume than what I think we'll ultimately be able to pull.

To me, his only knock from coaching here is that he's never really been in the Midwest. He's almost coached exclusively in SEC territory.  But I'd be happy with him for sure.

A plus he has a pair of softball pitcher thighs for biceps. Can probably bend iron and such.

[Katpappy]

Hudspeth would be fine.  He had an extremely strong program at North Alabama and went deep into the playoffs almost every year.  He's won four straight bowl games and has really kicked a lot of ass in the Sun Belt.

If the last few offseasons have taught us anything, it's that you're going to be underwhelmed by who you hire.  Look up Hudspeth and where he was before ULL.  He's been pretty excellent everywhere.  That's a more impressive resume than what I think we'll ultimately be able to pull.

To me, his only knock from coaching here is that he's never really been in the Midwest. He's almost coached exclusively in SEC territory.  But I'd be happy with him for sure.

A plus he has a pair of softball pitcher thighs for biceps. Can probably bend iron and such.

We don't "bend iron" at K-State, we chop wood.

[steve dave]

People would call him pudspeth and we'd be humiliated. Do not want.

[Katpappy]

Sounds like a Turner Gill type coach.  Great bod, but who really knows if he can coach at our level.

[0.42]

What about mark Hudspeth?

I'm not sure he's a program builder or a recruiter.

He turned UL around from 3-9 and has them going like 9-3/10-2 every year with usually at least 1 bodybag game. Plus his roster is huge and much more talented compared to the rest of the Sun Belt. His o/d-lines look like men against boys, and usually play that way too.

Not sure he'd be the answer for EMAW, but he gets super fired up and angry about things and would probably get a lot of people fist pumping.

[MakeItRain]

What about mark Hudspeth?

I'm not sure he's a program builder or a recruiter.

He turned UL around from 3-9 and has them going like 9-3/10-2 every year with usually at least 1 bodybag game. Plus his roster is huge and much more talented compared to the rest of the Sun Belt. His o/d-lines look like men against boys, and usually play that way too.

Not sure he'd be the answer for EMAW, but he gets super fired up and angry about things and would probably get a lot of people fist pumping.

In all seriousness it's no better, actually likely worse, than the Missouri Valley.

[mocat]

sun belt is a confirmed pile of trash. the Wedge of star wars characters. its like, why is he even in this?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Malzahn came from Arkansas State, no?

[ChiComCat]

Malzahn came from Arkansas State, no?

He went Auburn OC>Ark St HC>Auburn HC in a 3 year stretch

[Mr Bread]

Hugh Freeze came from Arkansas State too.

[MakeItRain]

Hugh Freeze came from Arkansas State too.

This is a much better comparison to Pudspeth than Malzahn. Freeze and Malzahn have pretty similar career arcs, which would also be similar to to Beaty if he went to lets say Texas State instead of KU.

[ChiComCat]

Lets just take whoever is at Arkansas St.  They seem good at this hiring thing

[Stevesie60]

I think you have to make a solid, unrisky hire, after Snyder retires/dies. If our next hire flops there's no coming back. If we maintain an 8-9 win season norm, then our next hire becomes a lot easier. Sorry if that's a tucky view. But not really because I think it's true.

I think hiring either Montgomery or Herman, whoever does better at their current head coaching jobs, would be a great way to go (assuming this all goes down in 2+ years).

[michigancat]

I think you have to make a solid, unrisky hire, after Snyder retires/dies. If our next hire flops there's no coming back. If we maintain an 8-9 win season norm, then our next hire becomes a lot easier. Sorry if that's a tucky view. But not really because I think it's true.

I think hiring either Montgomery or Herman, whoever does better at their current head coaching jobs, would be a great way to go (assuming this all goes down in 2+ years).

you're wrong, we can handle a flop hire.

[Pete]

FWIW, I am not sure I can.

[Skipper44]

If the flop hire is outside the Snyder tree it will be super easy to replace him with somebody that "knows how to do it the Kstate way".  I really want that somebody to be BV.

[EMAWesome]

#TeamSean

[scottwildcat]

#TeamSean

Sean doesn't want his dad's life

[scottwildcat]

#TeamSean

Also anyone who is #TeamSean can get hit by a rough ridin' bus

[Stevesie60]

#TeamSean

Squawk outed.

[bones129]

#NotSean

[MakeItRain]

I think you have to make a solid, unrisky hire, after Snyder retires/dies. If our next hire flops there's no coming back. If we maintain an 8-9 win season norm, then our next hire becomes a lot easier. Sorry if that's a tucky view. But not really because I think it's true.

I think hiring either Montgomery or Herman, whoever does better at their current head coaching jobs, would be a great way to go (assuming this all goes down in 2+ years).

you're wrong, we can handle a flop hire.

I agree. The college football climate is very different today, anyone in a power conference is one coach away. Nearly everyone has money and facilities. You would have to really bungle your coaching search, more than once, to not have the money to hire a decent coach with a decent staff.

[EMAWesome]

Say what you will...I am realistic about what will happen if/when Curry hires a coach "from Arkansas State"...if he comes here and sucks, we will not have the option of going back to LHCBS again. If he comes here and is great he'll be at Tennessee or Georgia or x "traditional power" heading in a new direction within 4 years and we are back to square one. If he comes here and puts up 7-5, 8-4 every year, we will turn into that for a long time...good enough to go bowling, but not competing for Dr Peppers near consistent enough

[EMAWesome]

The single biggest thing Sean has in his favor is he will have LHCBS making sure he doesn't fail...that is worth something