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Title: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 14, 2016, 03:19:34 PM
Who are the top ten coaches (at this time)?  Might not necessarily line up exactly with the top programs (but I bet it will have strong similarities).

I think we can all agree that the top two (by a wide margin are):
1. Nick Saban
2. Urban Meyer 
They are both excellent in preparation, fundamentals, and recruiting.  Additionally they generally make great in-game decisions and adjustments. They can win at a small school with 5 hearts or at a big school with 5 stars.


But from here it's a bit more murky.  We have coaches who have nattys:

Les Miles
Jimbo Fisher
Bob Stoops

and coached who have been in the "title" game:

Dabo Sweeny
Mark Helfrich
Gus Malzhan
Brian Kelly

and coaches with multiple conference champs (3+):
David Shaw
Mark Dantonio
Bert Bielema

and finally coaches with a couple of conference champs and turned a program around
Art Briles
LHC Bill Snyder


How you order your top ten?  Which coaches am I missing who should be in consideration (and why)?


Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: manpow5 on January 14, 2016, 03:29:22 PM
1. Saban
2. Meyer
3. Miles
4. Bryles
5. Patterson
6. Sweeny
7. Stoops
8. Jimbo
9. Kelly
10. Dantonio
11. Snyder
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 14, 2016, 03:32:42 PM
Jim Harbaugh
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: manpow5 on January 14, 2016, 03:34:44 PM
1. Saban
2. Meyer
3. Miles
3.5. Harbaugh
4. Bryles
5. Patterson
6. Sweeny
7. Stoops
8. Jimbo
9. Kelly
10. Dantonio
11. Snyder
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 14, 2016, 03:38:40 PM
At what point does the "he turned around a program" theme get lifted?

Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 14, 2016, 03:43:37 PM
Jim Harbaugh
I guess I can see that, but he hasn't won crap in college
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 14, 2016, 03:44:28 PM
At what point does the "he turned around a program" theme get lifted?

Probably never, I mean even if a rocket crashes back to earth it still lifted off and reached the stars for a little while.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 14, 2016, 03:45:41 PM
Patterson doesn't really belong there yet either IMO, and certainly not at the expense of a coach like Shaw.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 14, 2016, 03:54:09 PM
At what point does the "he turned around a program" theme get lifted?
Until another coach succeeds at that program or said coach begins to tank badly
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: kso_FAN on January 14, 2016, 03:56:08 PM

At what point does the "he turned around a program" theme get lifted?
Until another coach succeeds at that program or said coach begins to tank badly

Also (fair or not) a lot of people give him credit for doing it twice.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: ChiComCat on January 14, 2016, 04:14:20 PM
Malzahn and Helfrich deserve some skepticism - they've both been a bit inconsistent on too small of a sample

Saban
Meyer
Stoops
Miles
Harbaugh
Dantonio
Patterson
Briles
Kelly
Jimbo

Others considered in no order:
Sweeney
Shaw
Snyder
Petrino
Helfrich
Malzahn
Gundy
Herman
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: 'taterblast on January 14, 2016, 04:17:49 PM
1. Saban
2. Meyer
3. Miles
4. Stoops
5. Patterson
6. Swinney
7. Fisher
8. Harbaugh
9. Briles
10. Gundy
11. Kelly (ND)
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: TownieCat on January 14, 2016, 04:17:58 PM
1a. Meyer
1b. Saban
3. Swinney: 56-12 the past 5 years  :surprised:
4. Patterson: 9 11-win seasons; I also think it took a couple of years for him to adjust his program to the rigors of a P5 conference.  :emawkid:
5. Dantonio: 3 big 10 and 5 11-win seasons in past 6 years  :gocho:
6. Harbaugh: Small sample size, but he really resurrected Stanford before leaving for the NFL.  :dunno:
7. Briles: What's his best win? Serious question. :confused:
8. Jimbo: Admittedly, he probably should be higher than this but last season seemed like smoke and mirrors to me.  :Ugh:
9. David Shaw: September 2 will not be fun. :frown:
10. Stoops: He does less with more a lot of the time, but he does have more.  :blindfold:
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 14, 2016, 04:30:43 PM
Huh, I think Harbaugh is getting too much love and Shaw not enough (0 titles vs 3), but hey this is America right?
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 14, 2016, 04:33:00 PM
more info (if needed)
Top 25 P5+Notre Dame coaches by winning % (at school at least 3 years).
NameSchoolAgeWin%
Urban Meyer Ohio State 510.925
Nick Saban Alabama 640.85
Jimbo Fisher Florida State 500.84
Mark Helfrich Oregon 420.825
Bob Stoops Oklahoma 550.799
David Shaw Stanford 430.788
Les Miles LSU 620.776
Gary Patterson TCU 550.751
Mark Richt Georgia 550.74
Dabo Swinney Clemson 460.737
Mark Dantonio Michigan State 590.729
Brian Kelly Notre Dame 540.714
Kevin Sumlin Texas A&M 510.706
Mike Gundy Oklahoma State 480.671
Kyle Whittingham Utah 560.671
Guz Malzahn Auburn 500.667
LHC Bill Snyder Kansas State 760.657
Todd Graham Arizona State 510.654
Hugh Freeze Mississippi 460.647
Larry Fedora North Carolina 530.64
Art Briles Baylor 600.64
Rich Rodriguez Arizona 520.634
Dan Mullen Mississippi State 430.607
Kirk Ferentz Iowa 600.599
Paul Johnson Georgia Tech 5 80.581

Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: cfbandyman on January 14, 2016, 04:34:16 PM
1a. Meyer
1b. Saban
3. Swinney: 56-12 the past 5 years  :surprised:
4. Patterson: 9 11-win seasons; I also think it took a couple of years for him to adjust his program to the rigors of a P5 conference.  :emawkid:
5. Dantonio: 3 big 10 and 5 11-win seasons in past 6 years  :gocho:
6. Harbaugh: Small sample size, but he really resurrected Stanford before leaving for the NFL.  :dunno:
7. Briles: What's his best win? Serious question. KSU in 2012 :frown:
8. Jimbo: Admittedly, he probably should be higher than this but last season seemed like smoke and mirrors to me.  :Ugh:
9. David Shaw: September 2 will not be fun. :frown:
10. Stoops: He does less with more a lot of the time, but he does have more.  :blindfold:
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 14, 2016, 04:34:26 PM
Pinkel and Beamer retired Chings
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: That_Guy on January 14, 2016, 04:39:27 PM
Idk why Les Miles is so high on some peoples list. He under achieves every year it seems.


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Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 14, 2016, 04:40:02 PM
Pinkel and Beamer retired Chings
I know, I forgot to remove them let me do that now!
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: TownieCat on January 14, 2016, 04:40:34 PM
1a. Meyer
1b. Saban
3. Swinney: 56-12 the past 5 years  :surprised:
4. Patterson: 9 11-win seasons; I also think it took a couple of years for him to adjust his program to the rigors of a P5 conference.  :emawkid:
5. Dantonio: 3 big 10 and 5 11-win seasons in past 6 years  :gocho:
6. Harbaugh: Small sample size, but he really resurrected Stanford before leaving for the NFL.  :dunno:
7. Briles: What's his best win? Serious question. KSU in 2012 :frown:
8. Jimbo: Admittedly, he probably should be higher than this but last season seemed like smoke and mirrors to me.  :Ugh:
9. David Shaw: September 2 will not be fun. :frown:
10. Stoops: He does less with more a lot of the time, but he does have more.  :blindfold:

 :'bye cruel world:
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: TownieCat on January 14, 2016, 04:42:07 PM
Idk why Les Miles is so high on some peoples list. He under achieves every year it seems.


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Agreed. He was one game away from being fired less than 2 months ago.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 14, 2016, 04:43:13 PM
Idk why Les Miles is so high on some peoples list. He under achieves every year it seems.


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He's won 1 natty and been to another, not too many current coaches have done that (Bob has).
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: That_Guy on January 14, 2016, 04:46:24 PM

Idk why Les Miles is so high on some peoples list. He under achieves every year it seems.


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He's won 1 natty and been to another, not too many current coaches have done that (Bob has).

Miles is the Stoops of the SEC. Get hyped up year-after-year and then fall short.


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Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 14, 2016, 04:51:27 PM
also put Brian Kelly in there Chings

edit: nevermind he already did
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Katpappy on January 15, 2016, 01:27:41 PM
1a. Meyer
1b. Saban
3. Swinney: 56-12 the past 5 years  :surprised:
4. Patterson: 9 11-win seasons; I also think it took a couple of years for him to adjust his program to the rigors of a P5 conference.  :emawkid:
5. Dantonio: 3 big 10 and 5 11-win seasons in past 6 years  :gocho:
6. Harbaugh: Small sample size, but he really resurrected Stanford before leaving for the NFL.  :dunno:
7. Briles: What's his best win? Serious question. :confused:  That's easy; KSU in '12.  "It don't get better that beating the number 1 ranked team in the nation!"
8. Jimbo: Admittedly, he probably should be higher than this but last season seemed like smoke and mirrors to me.  :Ugh:
9. David Shaw: September 2 will not be fun. :frown:
10. Stoops: He does less with more a lot of the time, but he does have more.  :blindfold:
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Katpappy on January 15, 2016, 01:32:03 PM
more info (if needed)
Top 25 P5+Notre Dame coaches by winning % (at school at least 3 years).
NameSchoolAgeWin%
Urban Meyer Ohio State 510.925
Nick Saban Alabama 640.85
Jimbo Fisher Florida State 500.84
Mark Helfrich Oregon 420.825
Bob Stoops Oklahoma 550.799
David Shaw Stanford 430.788
Les Miles LSU 620.776
Gary Patterson TCU 550.751
[b]Mostly in the lowly MWC[/b] Mark Richt Georgia 550.74
Dabo Swinney Clemson 460.737
Mark Dantonio Michigan State 590.729
Brian Kelly Notre Dame 540.714
Kevin Sumlin Texas A&M 510.706
Mike Gundy Oklahoma State 480.671
Kyle Whittingham Utah 560.671
Guz Malzahn Auburn 500.667
LHC Bill Snyder Kansas State 760.657
Todd Graham Arizona State 510.654
Hugh Freeze Mississippi 460.647
Larry Fedora North Carolina 530.64
Art Briles Baylor 600.64
Rich Rodriguez Arizona 520.634
Dan Mullen Mississippi State 430.607
Kirk Ferentz Iowa 600.599
Paul Johnson Georgia Tech 5 80.581
You should also look at who, where and what they coached for a true look at coaching ability.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: MadCat on January 15, 2016, 03:31:53 PM
 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 15, 2016, 03:45:47 PM
How in the world is Gene Chizik a DC at North Carolina?   :sdeek:
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Katpappy on January 16, 2016, 07:36:29 PM
How in the world is Gene Chizik a DC at North Carolina?   :sdeek:
I would be more amazed if he was an HC for a P5 team.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 16, 2016, 07:40:22 PM
How in the world is Gene Chizik a DC at North Carolina?   :sdeek:
He's a great DC. Better than any we've had in over a decade.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: michigancat on January 16, 2016, 07:47:48 PM
David Shaw is probably the most underrated. 3 Rose Bowls and a Fiesta in 5 seasons at Stanford is pretty crazy.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 16, 2016, 07:51:08 PM
David Shaw is probably the most underrated. 3 Rose Bowls and a Fiesta in 5 seasons at Stanford is pretty crazy.
It's amazing how much so.  He's won the Pac 12 3 times!
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: michigancat on January 16, 2016, 07:54:54 PM
I'm guessing race has something to do with it
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2016, 08:17:41 PM
Race? Or being the Pac 12? Both? If he had a similar run in the SEC I think he would get a lot more publicity. I can't think of a comparable white coach though.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 16, 2016, 08:26:26 PM
How in the world is Gene Chizik a DC at North Carolina?   :sdeek:
He's a great DC. Better than any we've had in over a decade.

He's been the DC for an undefeated Auburn team and an undefeated Texas team (that won a National Championship).  We would be so lucky to get a defensive coach of that caliber at KSU.

We're about to wet our pants in joy over hiring the DC of Colorado.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: bucket on January 16, 2016, 08:26:43 PM
Idk why Les Miles is so high on some peoples list. He under achieves every year it seems.


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He's won 1 natty and been to another, not too many current coaches have done that (Bob has).

Anyone dumb enough to eat grass off the turf before every game should be disqualified from a "Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now," thread.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: michigancat on January 16, 2016, 08:30:58 PM
Race? Or being the Pac 12? Both? If he had a similar run in the SEC I think he would get a lot more publicity. I can't think of a comparable white coach though.
Dantonio is similar
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 16, 2016, 08:34:29 PM
Race? Or being the Pac 12? Both? If he had a similar run in the SEC I think he would get a lot more publicity. I can't think of a comparable white coach though.
I mean a lot people want Harbaugh in the top 10 for not even winning the Pac 12 once.  At the same school. With Shaw as his offense coordinator.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: michigancat on January 16, 2016, 08:34:51 PM
Race? Or being the Pac 12? Both? If he had a similar run in the SEC I think he would get a lot more publicity. I can't think of a comparable white coach though.
Dantonio is similar
Actually, no. he has three conference titles in several more seasons.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2016, 08:35:59 PM
Race? Or being the Pac 12? Both? If he had a similar run in the SEC I think he would get a lot more publicity. I can't think of a comparable white coach though.
Dantoni is similar
And he think he gets a lot more pub because of his skin tone and not his being in the Big 10?

Maybe I don't pay enough attention or watch or read enough about coachs, but I can't think of a single Pac 12 coach getting more or equal praise to that of SEC or Big 10 coaches. Seems to be guys winning natties that get the most love and the Pac 12 sn't doing a lot of that.

When I think of Stanford all I think of is white running backs and Andrew luck. I'm sure his race would play a role in his overall ranking. But I don't think it is nearly close to being a major factor.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2016, 08:36:44 PM
Race? Or being the Pac 12? Both? If he had a similar run in the SEC I think he would get a lot more publicity. I can't think of a comparable white coach though.
I mean a lot people want Harbaugh in the top 10 for not even winning the Pac 12 once.  At the same school. With Shaw as his offense coordinator.
Here? Nationally? Again, I may just not be as up on the news/talk as you guys.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Tobias on January 16, 2016, 08:38:44 PM
50% of the first four posts had harbaugh
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 16, 2016, 08:39:17 PM
50% of the first four posts had harbaugh
and at the expense of leaving our Shaw
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: star seed 7 on January 16, 2016, 08:40:36 PM
no one cared about bert either when winning a crap b10 3 times

(i love shaw ftr)
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: SdK on January 16, 2016, 08:55:39 PM
Oh. On here? Pfffft. I could have told you we had idiots posting on here. Fwiw I see Harbaugh as a famous name that's rise is due mostly to that and not much else. What has he done? Nothing thar a crap ton of other coaches haven't done.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: eastcat on January 17, 2016, 06:09:14 PM
Chip Kelly
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 19, 2016, 03:58:30 PM
Had spurrier not hung it up mid season would he be on this list?
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 19, 2016, 04:08:31 PM
Had spurrier not hung it up mid season would he be on this list?
I would think so.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: TownieCat on January 19, 2016, 04:23:54 PM
Had spurrier not hung it up mid season would he be on this list?
I would think so.

Not a chance. He won the SEC East one time in 10+ seasons at South Carolina.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 19, 2016, 04:31:52 PM
Had spurrier not hung it up mid season would he be on this list?
I would think so.

Not a chance. He won the SEC East one time in 10+ seasons at South Carolina.
I can be swayed by that I think.  His Florida accomplishments were a school and decades ago.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: TownieCat on January 19, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
I think his Florida accomplishments put him in the discussion of top 10 all time, but he has only been an above average head coach for much of the past decade.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 19, 2016, 05:47:09 PM
Yeah, this list is about right now.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: pissclams on January 19, 2016, 06:35:31 PM
I think his Florida accomplishments put him in the discussion of top 10 all time, but he has only been an above average head coach for much of the past decade.
thoughts on bear bryant?
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: pissclams on January 19, 2016, 06:52:14 PM
i'm a bit surprised that eddie robinson isn't getting more love in this thread
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: ChiComCat on January 20, 2016, 09:15:45 AM
Harbaugh competed against Carroll and Kelly whereas Shaw competes against Helfrich and [insert USC coach here].  Given the title of the thread, I also think you can give Harbaugh credit for 3 NFC title games and a super bowl appearance.  I give Harbaugh credit for building Stanford and, although they weren't full builds, instantly turning San Fran and Michigan into very competitive teams.  I probably underrated Shaw a bit but I would still take Harbaugh.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Pendergast on January 20, 2016, 03:55:43 PM
Oh. On here? Pfffft. I could have told you we had idiots posting on here. Fwiw I see Harbaugh as a famous name that's rise is due mostly to that and not much else. What has he done? Nothing thar a crap ton of other coaches haven't done.

USD 2003 : 8 - 2
USD 2004 : 7 - 4

Stanford 2006 : 1 - 11
Stanford 2007 : 4 - 8

49ers 2010 : 6 - 10
49ers 2011 : 13 - 3 (Lost in NFC championship game, Coach of the Year)

Michigan 2014 : 5 - 7
Michigan 2015 : 10 - 3 (Defeated #19 Florida 41-7)

I don't think a lot of coaches can turn things around like he did at Stanford, San Francisco, and Michigan. People view Harbaugh as a great coach for the same reason Snyder is viewed as a great coach, they turned program(s) or team(s) around, and sustained success.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 20, 2016, 03:58:25 PM
I think he's more famous now as a coach than he ever was as a player.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: michigancat on January 20, 2016, 06:21:26 PM
Harbaugh competed against Carroll and Kelly whereas Shaw competes against Helfrich and [insert USC coach here].  Given the title of the thread, I also think you can give Harbaugh credit for 3 NFC title games and a super bowl appearance.  I give Harbaugh credit for building Stanford and, although they weren't full builds, instantly turning San Fran and Michigan into very competitive teams.  I probably underrated Shaw a bit but I would still take Harbaugh.

Shaw was 1-1 against Kelly
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: jtksu on January 21, 2016, 04:15:04 AM
Oh. On here? Pfffft. I could have told you we had idiots posting on here. Fwiw I see Harbaugh as a famous name that's rise is due mostly to that and not much else. What has he done? Nothing thar a crap ton of other coaches haven't done.

USD 2003 : 8 - 2
USD 2004 : 7 - 4

Stanford 2006 : 1 - 11
Stanford 2007 : 4 - 8

49ers 2010 : 6 - 10
49ers 2011 : 13 - 3 (Lost in NFC championship game, Coach of the Year)

Michigan 2014 : 5 - 7
Michigan 2015 : 10 - 3 (Defeated #19 Florida 41-7)

I don't think a lot of coaches can turn things around like he did at Stanford, San Francisco, and Michigan. People view Harbaugh as a great coach for the same reason Snyder is viewed as a great coach, they turned program(s) or team(s) around, and sustained success.

Did he get fired from San Francisco?   And winning with other people's players isn't that impressive.   I sure as he don't see oscar Webber on any top ten coaches lists.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Pendergast on January 21, 2016, 08:50:36 AM
Don't be obtuse, he won with his own players.  He improved upon an already great program at USD, turned Stanford into a top tier PAC team, and there's obviously not enough data for Michigan, and your statement doesn't apply to the NFL, where he simply kicked ass and took names.  Comparing him to oscar Weber would be like comparing you to someone with above average intelligence.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 21, 2016, 08:54:18 AM
Oh. On here? Pfffft. I could have told you we had idiots posting on here. Fwiw I see Harbaugh as a famous name that's rise is due mostly to that and not much else. What has he done? Nothing thar a crap ton of other coaches haven't done.

USD 2003 : 8 - 2
USD 2004 : 7 - 4

Stanford 2006 : 1 - 11
Stanford 2007 : 4 - 8

49ers 2010 : 6 - 10
49ers 2011 : 13 - 3 (Lost in NFC championship game, Coach of the Year)

Michigan 2014 : 5 - 7
Michigan 2015 : 10 - 3 (Defeated #19 Florida 41-7)

I don't think a lot of coaches can turn things around like he did at Stanford, San Francisco, and Michigan. People view Harbaugh as a great coach for the same reason Snyder is viewed as a great coach, they turned program(s) or team(s) around, and sustained success.

Did he get fired from San Francisco?   And winning with other people's players isn't that impressive.   I sure as he don't see oscar Webber on any top ten coaches lists.
:flush:
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: ChiComCat on January 21, 2016, 11:30:16 AM
Harbaugh competed against Carroll and Kelly whereas Shaw competes against Helfrich and [insert USC coach here].  Given the title of the thread, I also think you can give Harbaugh credit for 3 NFC title games and a super bowl appearance.  I give Harbaugh credit for building Stanford and, although they weren't full builds, instantly turning San Fran and Michigan into very competitive teams.  I probably underrated Shaw a bit but I would still take Harbaugh.

Shaw was 1-1 against Kelly

I meant it as getting a Pac 12 championship was a lot tougher with more consistently strong programs.  I would put Shaw ahead of Kelly for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on November 12, 2017, 10:04:57 AM
I need to update this list.  Obviously, Dabo needs to move up a tier and with Stoop and Miles out of the game (for now) others can move into their spots.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: kso_FAN on November 12, 2017, 10:34:21 AM
The list is tough right now.

I think these 4 are definitely the upper echelon.

Saban
Dabo
Meyer
Fisher

Then these:
Richt
Shaw
Patterson
Peterson
Shaw
Harbaugh

Others to consider:
Dantonio
Gundy
Petrino
Franklin
Malzahn
Mullen
Kelly

Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: kslim on November 12, 2017, 10:52:19 AM
FSU fans want jimbo fired, same with aggies not sure if it’s coaching injuries expectations or a combo of all three. I try to look at in season progress as well as overall what Campbell and Fitzgerald have done is impressive, same for both Arizona schools. I’d tier them as

Saban
Dabo
Meyer

Mahlzan
Riley
Patterson
Richt
Smart
Wiskys coach


Peterson
Shaw
Campbell
Fleck
Fisher
Harbaugh
Rich rod (can’t believe I? typed that
Leach


The rest
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: kso_FAN on November 12, 2017, 10:56:47 AM
Good points.

I thought about dropping Fisher the next tier because of this season, but he still has an impressive run. Its hard to know if this is just an isolated season or not.

I was a bit cautious including coaches that haven't been there more than 3 or 4 years, ie. Fleck, Smart, Campbell.

I can see including Chryst (Wiscy coach) at least in the consider category.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2017, 11:01:52 AM
I need to update this list.  Obviously, Dabo needs to move up a tier and with Stoop and Miles out of the game (for now) others can move into their spots.

fun fact: Dabo was never an offensive or defensive coordinator in his career
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: kso_FAN on November 12, 2017, 11:04:09 AM
I need to update this list.  Obviously, Dabo needs to move up a tier and with Stoop and Miles out of the game (for now) others can move into their spots.

fun fact: Dabo was never an offensive or defensive coordinator in his career

 :Chirp:
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: kslim on November 12, 2017, 11:32:52 AM
Good points.

I thought about dropping Fisher the next tier because of this season, but he still has an impressive run. Its hard to know if this is just an isolated season or not.

I was a bit cautious including coaches that haven't been there more than 3 or 4 years, ie. Fleck, Smart, Campbell.

I can see including Chryst (Wiscy coach) at least in the consider category.
I understand but its not the same as it was in hell even the late 2000's look at frost for example, he took a team that was winless just a couple of years ago and is undefeated and headed to florida now. he will get 2-3 years and if he isn't successful he will be fired. there really isn't a lot of longevity in coaching with all these young guys. that why id love a hire like stoops/kelly/venables guys like that will put together a good staff and when they move on or actually retire hopefully you can promote from within (could be posted in this thread or the terrible ksu coaches thread but the point still stands)
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on November 12, 2017, 12:42:21 PM
Good points.

I thought about dropping Fisher the next tier because of this season, but he still has an impressive run. Its hard to know if this is just an isolated season or not.

I was a bit cautious including coaches that haven't been there more than 3 or 4 years, ie. Fleck, Smart, Campbell.

I can see including Chryst (Wiscy coach) at least in the consider category.
I understand but its not the same as it was in hell even the late 2000's look at frost for example, he took a team that was winless just a couple of years ago and is undefeated and headed to florida now. he will get 2-3 years and if he isn't successful he will be fired. there really isn't a lot of longevity in coaching with all these young guys. that why id love a hire like stoops/kelly/venables guys like that will put together a good staff and when they move on or actually retire hopefully you can promote from within (could be posted in this thread or the terrible ksu coaches thread but the point still stands)

I can't tell if you are trolling here....are you suggesting KSU can hire Stoops and/or Kelly...guys who will "put together a good staff" for when they move on?  I'm no sure why you would rule out hiring Saban or Meyer.  They would be at the top of my list if i were in your shoes.  Seems like you are settling for a Stoops or Kelly.

I think my earlier posts about expectations were pretty spot on.  You are going to be soooo disappointed with whoever we hire.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: kslim on November 12, 2017, 12:54:28 PM
Good points.

I thought about dropping Fisher the next tier because of this season, but he still has an impressive run. Its hard to know if this is just an isolated season or not.

I was a bit cautious including coaches that haven't been there more than 3 or 4 years, ie. Fleck, Smart, Campbell.

I can see including Chryst (Wiscy coach) at least in the consider category.
I understand but its not the same as it was in hell even the late 2000's look at frost for example, he took a team that was winless just a couple of years ago and is undefeated and headed to florida now. he will get 2-3 years and if he isn't successful he will be fired. there really isn't a lot of longevity in coaching with all these young guys. that why id love a hire like stoops/kelly/venables guys like that will put together a good staff and when they move on or actually retire hopefully you can promote from within (could be posted in this thread or the terrible ksu coaches thread but the point still stands)

I can't tell if you are trolling here....are you suggesting KSU can hire Stoops and/or Kelly...guys who will "put together a good staff" for when they move on?  I'm no sure why you would rule out hiring Saban or Meyer.  They would be at the top of my list if i were in your shoes.  Seems like you are settling for a Stoops or Kelly.

I think my earlier posts about expectations were pretty spot on.  You are going to be soooo disappointed with whoever we hire.
youre right my expectations shouldn't be high, I mean hell we shouldn't even make the phone call.  lets just hire another prince and see what happens. get the kleenex ready mommas gonna need them
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: catastrophe on November 12, 2017, 01:03:20 PM
FSU fans calling for Fisher to be fired after one bad year are idiots.

Really it is amazing how Saban is able to keep Alabama at the top year after year.  Almost no program is safe from the occasional WTF year.  Among active coaches, I would probably put Saban (mayyyybe Meyer) in his own tier.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on November 12, 2017, 01:03:44 PM
Good points.

I thought about dropping Fisher the next tier because of this season, but he still has an impressive run. Its hard to know if this is just an isolated season or not.

I was a bit cautious including coaches that haven't been there more than 3 or 4 years, ie. Fleck, Smart, Campbell.

I can see including Chryst (Wiscy coach) at least in the consider category.
I understand but its not the same as it was in hell even the late 2000's look at frost for example, he took a team that was winless just a couple of years ago and is undefeated and headed to florida now. he will get 2-3 years and if he isn't successful he will be fired. there really isn't a lot of longevity in coaching with all these young guys. that why id love a hire like stoops/kelly/venables guys like that will put together a good staff and when they move on or actually retire hopefully you can promote from within (could be posted in this thread or the terrible ksu coaches thread but the point still stands)

I can't tell if you are trolling here....are you suggesting KSU can hire Stoops and/or Kelly...guys who will "put together a good staff" for when they move on?  I'm no sure why you would rule out hiring Saban or Meyer.  They would be at the top of my list if i were in your shoes.  Seems like you are settling for a Stoops or Kelly.

I think my earlier posts about expectations were pretty spot on.  You are going to be soooo disappointed with whoever we hire.
youre right my expectations shouldn't be high, I mean hell we shouldn't even make the phone call.  lets just hire another prince and see what happens. get the kleenex ready mommas gonna need them

You can set your expectations as high as you want....that's your choice and you are the one that looks/sounds ridiculous.  You're probably the first person to bitch that we don't have a slew of 5 star recruits every class.  I love laughing at the tards on the phog thinking they could/can hire Harbaugh but the reality is we have the same types of fans....every fan base does I guess.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: kslim on November 12, 2017, 01:12:49 PM
Good points.

I thought about dropping Fisher the next tier because of this season, but he still has an impressive run. Its hard to know if this is just an isolated season or not.

I was a bit cautious including coaches that haven't been there more than 3 or 4 years, ie. Fleck, Smart, Campbell.

I can see including Chryst (Wiscy coach) at least in the consider category.
I understand but its not the same as it was in hell even the late 2000's look at frost for example, he took a team that was winless just a couple of years ago and is undefeated and headed to florida now. he will get 2-3 years and if he isn't successful he will be fired. there really isn't a lot of longevity in coaching with all these young guys. that why id love a hire like stoops/kelly/venables guys like that will put together a good staff and when they move on or actually retire hopefully you can promote from within (could be posted in this thread or the terrible ksu coaches thread but the point still stands)

I can't tell if you are trolling here....are you suggesting KSU can hire Stoops and/or Kelly...guys who will "put together a good staff" for when they move on?  I'm no sure why you would rule out hiring Saban or Meyer.  They would be at the top of my list if i were in your shoes.  Seems like you are settling for a Stoops or Kelly.

I think my earlier posts about expectations were pretty spot on.  You are going to be soooo disappointed with whoever we hire.
youre right my expectations shouldn't be high, I mean hell we shouldn't even make the phone call.  lets just hire another prince and see what happens. get the kleenex ready mommas gonna need them

You can set your expectations as high as you want....that's your choice and you are the one that looks/sounds ridiculous.  You're probably the first person to bitch that we don't have a slew of 5 star recruits every class.  I love laughing at the tards on the phog thinking they could/can hire Harbaugh but the reality is we have the same types of fans....every fan base does I guess.
so everyone that wants venzy is unrealistic? I'm sure you are a sean supporter and thats fine but to act and to continue to act like we are still in 1989 is ridiculous we have a solid following with great facilities and direct flights right into town, I know what our limitations are but that doesn't mean we can't exceed them or at least rough ridin' try to
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on November 12, 2017, 01:17:37 PM
Good points.

I thought about dropping Fisher the next tier because of this season, but he still has an impressive run. Its hard to know if this is just an isolated season or not.

I was a bit cautious including coaches that haven't been there more than 3 or 4 years, ie. Fleck, Smart, Campbell.

I can see including Chryst (Wiscy coach) at least in the consider category.
I understand but its not the same as it was in hell even the late 2000's look at frost for example, he took a team that was winless just a couple of years ago and is undefeated and headed to florida now. he will get 2-3 years and if he isn't successful he will be fired. there really isn't a lot of longevity in coaching with all these young guys. that why id love a hire like stoops/kelly/venables guys like that will put together a good staff and when they move on or actually retire hopefully you can promote from within (could be posted in this thread or the terrible ksu coaches thread but the point still stands)

I can't tell if you are trolling here....are you suggesting KSU can hire Stoops and/or Kelly...guys who will "put together a good staff" for when they move on?  I'm no sure why you would rule out hiring Saban or Meyer.  They would be at the top of my list if i were in your shoes.  Seems like you are settling for a Stoops or Kelly.

I think my earlier posts about expectations were pretty spot on.  You are going to be soooo disappointed with whoever we hire.
youre right my expectations shouldn't be high, I mean hell we shouldn't even make the phone call.  lets just hire another prince and see what happens. get the kleenex ready mommas gonna need them

You can set your expectations as high as you want....that's your choice and you are the one that looks/sounds ridiculous.  You're probably the first person to bitch that we don't have a slew of 5 star recruits every class.  I love laughing at the tards on the phog thinking they could/can hire Harbaugh but the reality is we have the same types of fans....every fan base does I guess.
so everyone that wants venzy is unrealistic? I'm sure you are a sean supporter and thats fine but to act and to continue to act like we are still in 1989 is ridiculous we have a solid following with great facilities and direct flights right into town, I know what our limitations are but that doesn't mean we can't exceed them or at least rough ridin' try to

You gave 3 names...Venzy is the only one that is even a possibility.  Don't change your stance now slim....the phog needs posts to laugh at too.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: kslim on November 12, 2017, 01:22:14 PM
Good points.

I thought about dropping Fisher the next tier because of this season, but he still has an impressive run. Its hard to know if this is just an isolated season or not.

I was a bit cautious including coaches that haven't been there more than 3 or 4 years, ie. Fleck, Smart, Campbell.

I can see including Chryst (Wiscy coach) at least in the consider category.
I understand but its not the same as it was in hell even the late 2000's look at frost for example, he took a team that was winless just a couple of years ago and is undefeated and headed to florida now. he will get 2-3 years and if he isn't successful he will be fired. there really isn't a lot of longevity in coaching with all these young guys. that why id love a hire like stoops/kelly/venables guys like that will put together a good staff and when they move on or actually retire hopefully you can promote from within (could be posted in this thread or the terrible ksu coaches thread but the point still stands)

I can't tell if you are trolling here....are you suggesting KSU can hire Stoops and/or Kelly...guys who will "put together a good staff" for when they move on?  I'm no sure why you would rule out hiring Saban or Meyer.  They would be at the top of my list if i were in your shoes.  Seems like you are settling for a Stoops or Kelly.

I think my earlier posts about expectations were pretty spot on.  You are going to be soooo disappointed with whoever we hire.
youre right my expectations shouldn't be high, I mean hell we shouldn't even make the phone call.  lets just hire another prince and see what happens. get the kleenex ready mommas gonna need them

You can set your expectations as high as you want....that's your choice and you are the one that looks/sounds ridiculous.  You're probably the first person to bitch that we don't have a slew of 5 star recruits every class.  I love laughing at the tards on the phog thinking they could/can hire Harbaugh but the reality is we have the same types of fans....every fan base does I guess.
so everyone that wants venzy is unrealistic? I'm sure you are a sean supporter and thats fine but to act and to continue to act like we are still in 1989 is ridiculous we have a solid following with great facilities and direct flights right into town, I know what our limitations are but that doesn't mean we can't exceed them or at least rough ridin' try to

You gave 3 names...Venzy is the only one that is even a possibility.  Don't change your stance now slim....the phog needs posts to laugh at too.
im not changing my stance what so ever, if you don't think a phone call needs to be placed to at least stoops then you are crazy. will he say no? most likely but you still make the phone call. I am having a hard time figuring out why you can't grasp this concept
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: OK_Cat on November 12, 2017, 01:26:47 PM
This guy said something about ksu football in his wedding vows. Lol what a nerd


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Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on November 12, 2017, 01:28:11 PM
This guy said something about ksu football in his wedding vows. Lol what a nerd


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Yes this makes me a MUCH bigger loser than my expectations for KSU football.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: OK_Cat on November 12, 2017, 01:29:54 PM
It really does


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Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: MakeItRain on November 12, 2017, 01:39:58 PM
I need to update this list.  Obviously, Dabo needs to move up a tier and with Stoop and Miles out of the game (for now) others can move into their spots.

fun fact: Dabo was never an offensive or defensive coordinator in his career

I said this on KSO last week and they wanted to fight me.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: kso_FAN on November 12, 2017, 01:44:03 PM
Frank Solich was never a coordinator before he took over for Tom either.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Cire on November 12, 2017, 02:13:58 PM
Saban is LHC Bill Snyder if LHC Bill Snyder would have landed at a blue blood rather than kstate


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Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on November 12, 2017, 02:31:47 PM
Actually, Bill is a slightly less successfiul Frank Beamer.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: MakeItRain on November 12, 2017, 02:53:42 PM
Actually, Bill is a slightly less successfiul Frank Beamer.

Switch their jobs.

My biggest Bill critique is how lazy he's ALWAYS been with recruiting. I don't think recruiting here is an impossibility but you have to be willing to work at it. He's always thought his program culture could overcome getting outworked in recruiting. Beamer didn't have to do much to get Vick, that made getting Tyrod Taylor easier. Beamer built that program off of kids from eastern Virginia.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: DOD Take 2 on November 12, 2017, 02:55:20 PM
The idea that K-State couldn’t get Stoops or Kelly because we’re K-State is absurd. We are a Power 5 team with a lot of good qualities. Stoops would most likely say no but it’s not because of us, he just simply seems like he’s happy not coaching again. And I’m sure Kelly might say no too, but only because he could get offered a job a tier above us. If he wants to coach again and we were the only ones offering he would 100% come here. Every AD makes a list and works from the top down. You put names like Stoops and Kelly on there. Dont compare what kslim said to offering Saban or Meyer. Take a rough ridin' lap WB
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: DOD Take 2 on November 12, 2017, 02:57:04 PM
Actually, Bill is a slightly less successfiul Frank Beamer.

Switch their jobs.

My biggest Bill critique is how lazy he's ALWAYS been with recruiting. I don't think recruiting here is an impossibility but you have to be willing to work at it. He's always thought his program culture could overcome getting outworked in recruiting. Beamer didn't have to do much to get Vick, that made getting Tyrod Taylor easier. Beamer built that program off of kids from eastern Virginia.

The offense than ran with Vick was dumb as hell btw. Should’ve been adopting those early spread concepts for his talents.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on November 12, 2017, 04:02:03 PM
The idea that K-State couldn’t get Stoops or Kelly because we’re K-State is absurd. We are a Power 5 team with a lot of good qualities. Stoops would most likely say no but it’s not because of us, he just simply seems like he’s happy not coaching again. And I’m sure Kelly might say no too, but only because he could get offered a job a tier above us. If he wants to coach again and we were the only ones offering he would 100% come here. Every AD makes a list and works from the top down. You put names like Stoops and Kelly on there. Dont compare what kslim said to offering Saban or Meyer. Take a rough ridin' lap WB

This is fantastic.  Very nice work DOD.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: Pete on November 12, 2017, 06:54:22 PM
The idea that K-State couldn’t get Stoops or Kelly because we’re K-State is absurd. We are a Power 5 team with a lot of good qualities. Stoops would most likely say no but it’s not because of us, he just simply seems like he’s happy not coaching again. And I’m sure Kelly might say no too, but only because he could get offered a job a tier above us. If he wants to coach again and we were the only ones offering he would 100% come here. Every AD makes a list and works from the top down. You put names like Stoops and Kelly on there. Dont compare what kslim said to offering Saban or Meyer. Take a rough ridin' lap WB

You think OUR AD put names like that on the list?!?
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: bones129 on November 12, 2017, 07:16:22 PM
The idea that K-State couldn’t get Stoops or Kelly because we’re K-State is absurd. We are a Power 5 team with a lot of good qualities. Stoops would most likely say no but it’s not because of us, he just simply seems like he’s happy not coaching again. And I’m sure Kelly might say no too, but only because he could get offered a job a tier above us. If he wants to coach again and we were the only ones offering he would 100% come here. Every AD makes a list and works from the top down. You put names like Stoops and Kelly on there. Dont compare what kslim said to offering Saban or Meyer. Take a rough ridin' lap WB

You think OUR AD put names like that on the list?!?

I think Taylor has only one name on his list. The one he's been told to put there.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: DOD Take 2 on November 12, 2017, 08:05:43 PM
The idea that K-State couldn’t get Stoops or Kelly because we’re K-State is absurd. We are a Power 5 team with a lot of good qualities. Stoops would most likely say no but it’s not because of us, he just simply seems like he’s happy not coaching again. And I’m sure Kelly might say no too, but only because he could get offered a job a tier above us. If he wants to coach again and we were the only ones offering he would 100% come here. Every AD makes a list and works from the top down. You put names like Stoops and Kelly on there. Dont compare what kslim said to offering Saban or Meyer. Take a rough ridin' lap WB

You think OUR AD put names like that on the list?!?

I think Taylor has only one name on his list. The one he's been told to put there.

I’m not saying he did but he should
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: MakeItRain on November 12, 2017, 08:45:20 PM
The idea that K-State couldn’t get Stoops or Kelly because we’re K-State is absurd. We are a Power 5 team with a lot of good qualities. Stoops would most likely say no but it’s not because of us, he just simply seems like he’s happy not coaching again. And I’m sure Kelly might say no too, but only because he could get offered a job a tier above us. If he wants to coach again and we were the only ones offering he would 100% come here. Every AD makes a list and works from the top down. You put names like Stoops and Kelly on there. Dont compare what kslim said to offering Saban or Meyer. Take a rough ridin' lap WB

You think OUR AD put names like that on the list?!?

I think Taylor has only one name on his list. The one he's been told to put there.

I’m not saying he did but he should

Don't let them beat you down, none of us have a single clue as to who or what Gene Taylor's hiring practices will be. You're a fan, it's perfectly okay, actually preferable to dream big.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2017, 09:00:55 PM
Didn't he hire Craig Bohl? Not saying it's exactly predictive, but it does provide SOME insight
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: MakeItRain on November 12, 2017, 09:18:33 PM
Didn't he hire Craig Bohl? Not saying it's exactly predictive, but it does provide SOME insight

I guess. I mean getting Nebraska's DC is as good as anyone at NDSU could hope for so we know that he's aimed high before. Little different ballgame at a P5 though.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 02, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
OK back on topic.  Here is a pool to start with:

Coaches with multiple nat'l titles:
Nick Saban (at least 5)
Urban Meyer (3)

Coaches with 1 nat'l title:
Dabo Swinney
Jimbo Fisher

Coaches who have played for the title/been in the playoffs:
Kirby Smart
Gus Malzhan
Brian Kelly
Lincoln Riley
Chip Kelly (welcome back!)
Chris Petersen

Coaches with multiple conference titles (3+):
David Shaw
Mark Dantonio

At least 1 conference title and multiple 10+ win seasons (4+):
Mark Richt
Gary Paterson
LHC Bill Snyder
Kirk Ferentz
Mike Gundy

Rising Stars (quick turnaround + conference champ within first five years of coaching):
James Franklin
Scott Frost*
 
Other possible candidates (coached who are well regarded but never won anything of relevance)
Jim Harbaugh
Paul Chryst
Kyle Whittingham
Mike Leach

I am probably missing someone obvious, but this is a pretty good pool.  If I had to rank today I would have the following order:

*impressive turnaround, but not at P5 school...

1. Nick Saban
2. Urban Meyer
3. Dabo Swinney
4. Chip Kelly
5. David Shaw
6. Jimbo Fisher
7. Mark Dantonio
8. Chris Petersen
9. James Franklin
10.  Mark Richt

Too soon for me tell on Smart and Lincoln.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: meow meow on January 02, 2018, 12:24:20 PM
i'm so jealous of Nebraska fans right now.  impossible to not like Scott Frost, and they'll have him for a long time, and he'll get them back to national relevance imo.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: manpow5 on January 02, 2018, 12:26:01 PM
i'm so jealous of Nebraska fans right now.  impossible to not like Scott Frost, and they'll have him for a long time, and he'll get them back to national relevance imo.

As much as it pains me to say it... I really like Frost and he will win Nubbs another Natty... after watching that UCF game the other day I cannot hate him...
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 02, 2018, 12:27:53 PM
He's far too inconsistent, but when he has his teams playing their best Gus is almost unbeatable and superfun to watch.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: CHONGS on January 02, 2018, 12:30:15 PM
i'm so jealous of Nebraska fans right now.  impossible to not like Scott Frost, and they'll have him for a long time, and he'll get them back to national relevance imo.

As much as it pains me to say it... I really like Frost and he will win Nubbs another Natty... after watching that UCF game the other day I cannot hate him...
I would bet against it, but you never know.  Nub has a large number of programs just in their conference they need to pass.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: meow meow on January 02, 2018, 12:47:20 PM
i'm so jealous of Nebraska fans right now.  impossible to not like Scott Frost, and they'll have him for a long time, and he'll get them back to national relevance imo.

As much as it pains me to say it... I really like Frost and he will win Nubbs another Natty... after watching that UCF game the other day I cannot hate him...
I would bet against it, but you never know.  Nub has a large number of programs just in their conference they need to pass.

maybe tbut their division is still just Wisconsin.  Fleck might get Minnesota going, Iowa is a program like K-State, that's about it.  Hard to believe UCF went from 0-12 to 13-0 in just 2 seasons, that's insane.  feel bad for steve dave, NU fans are going to be annoying af again.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: MakeItRain on January 02, 2018, 02:12:46 PM
OK back on topic.  Here is a pool to start with:

Coaches with multiple nat'l titles:
Nick Saban (at least 5)
Urban Meyer (3)

Coaches with 1 nat'l title:
Dabo Swinney
Jimbo Fisher

Coaches who have played for the title/been in the playoffs:
Kirby Smart
Gus Malzhan
Brian Kelly
Lincoln Riley
Chip Kelly (welcome back!)
Chris Petersen

Coaches with multiple conference titles (3+):
David Shaw
Mark Dantonio

At least 1 conference title and multiple 10+ win seasons (4+):
Mark Richt
Gary Paterson
LHC Bill Snyder
Kirk Ferentz
Mike Gundy

Rising Stars (quick turnaround + conference champ within first five years of coaching):
James Franklin
Scott Frost*
 
Other possible candidates (coached who are well regarded but never won anything of relevance)
Jim Harbaugh
Paul Chryst
Kyle Whittingham
Mike Leach

I am probably missing someone obvious, but this is a pretty good pool.  If I had to rank today I would have the following order:

*impressive turnaround, but not at P5 school...

1. Nick Saban
2. Urban Meyer
3. Dabo Swinney
4. Chip Kelly
5. David Shaw
6. Jimbo Fisher
7. Mark Dantonio
8. Chris Petersen
9. James Franklin
10.  Mark Richt

Too soon for me tell on Smart and Lincoln.

No way on Chip Kelly. Guy was a head coach only four years, there were players in that program longer than he was the head coach. It's also worth noting he took over a ready made winner. He clearly has an innovative football mind, and he may kill it at UCLA, (he won't come close to his success at Oregon IMO) but his grade as a head coach has to be incomplete.
Title: Re: Top Ten Head Football Coaches in College Right Now
Post by: DQ12 on January 02, 2018, 02:31:56 PM

1. Saban
2. Urban
3. Dabo
4. Jimbo
5. Malzahn
6. Chip
7. Chris Peterson
8. James Franklin
9. Shaw
10. Dantonio