Author Topic: 2014-15 college basketball (Read 134266 times)

catzacker · « **Reply #1400 on:** March 29, 2015, 11:23:26 AM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on March 29, 2015, 10:56:42 AM

Quote from: catzacker on March 29, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2015, 11:55:39 PM
ND should have shot earlier on the possession before. college coaches can't comprehend a 2 for 1.

I don't understand why they don't see the value in this. The "quick" shot is usually a decent look at a 3.

"Usually" has no value in this case where they're playing the best defense in college basketball. I'm stunned that no one is speaking up for Brey's decision here. Points are certainly more important than getting two shots there. It's not like getting a second possession is guaranteed, I'd assume that Kentucky is also a good oboarding team. Doing whatever the best thing is to get points is the right play in a tie game with under a minute left, sheesh. They got to that point by valuing possessions it would be amazingly stupid to just chuck it up at that point, ultimate panic move.

I guess if they are the greatest defense of all time, it doesn't matter when you shoot the ball in the shot clock, however i'd rather have 2 chances than one.

michigancat · « **Reply #1401 on:** March 29, 2015, 11:36:25 AM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on March 29, 2015, 10:56:42 AM

Quote from: catzacker on March 29, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: michigancat on March 28, 2015, 11:55:39 PM
ND should have shot earlier on the possession before. college coaches can't comprehend a 2 for 1.

I don't understand why they don't see the value in this. The "quick" shot is usually a decent look at a 3.

"Usually" has no value in this case where they're playing the best defense in college basketball. I'm stunned that no one is speaking up for Brey's decision here. Points are certainly more important than getting two shots there. It's not like getting a second possession is guaranteed, I'd assume that Kentucky is also a good oboarding team. Doing whatever the best thing is to get points is the right play in a tie game with under a minute left, sheesh. They got to that point by valuing possessions it would be amazingly stupid to just chuck it up at that point, ultimate panic move.

They weren't trying to get the best shot, they were trying to get a shot as late as possible. They couldn't limit Kentucky's possessions at that point (unless they got a offensive rebound. And they absolutely chucked up a desperation shot on that possession, while starting to try for a shot 15-20 seconds earlier could have gotten them at least as good a look, but also given them time for another 15 second possession.

michigancat · « **Reply #1402 on:** March 29, 2015, 11:42:18 AM »

Another disadvantage to holding it till the end of the shot clock is that Kentucky KNOWS you have to shoot or turn it over. They don't have that luxury if you are trying to get your shot with 15-20 on the shot clock.

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #1403 on:** March 29, 2015, 02:06:15 PM »

They just said that Wisc vs. UK will be the third Final 4 rematch in history. They have to mean in consecutive years, right?

SdK · « **Reply #1404 on:** March 29, 2015, 02:06:43 PM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 29, 2015, 02:06:15 PM

They just said that Wisc vs. UK will be the third Final 4 rematch in history. They have to mean in consecutive years, right?

Have to.

pissclams · « **Reply #1405 on:** March 29, 2015, 03:13:50 PM »

UK fans make KU fans seem like CU fans

MakeItRain · « **Reply #1406 on:** March 29, 2015, 03:33:43 PM »

What just happened I'm this Michigan State/Louisville game is lesson 1 in the "you can't call that this late in the game" bullshit, and why it's dumb. Louisville committee a clear flagrant 1 and the officials didn't have the courage to call it appropriately and Michigan State got screwed because of it.

pissclams · « **Reply #1407 on:** March 29, 2015, 04:14:56 PM »

imo, okafor is the best college player in a really long time.

i love his game. best since who?

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #1408 on:** March 29, 2015, 04:24:36 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 29, 2015, 04:14:56 PM

imo, okafor is the best college player in a really long time.

i love his game. best since who?

Beaz

pissclams · « **Reply #1409 on:** March 29, 2015, 04:51:53 PM »

pretty good answer

wetwillie · « **Reply #1410 on:** March 29, 2015, 04:55:24 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 29, 2015, 04:14:56 PM

imo, okafor is the best college player in a really long time.

i love his game. best since who?

Tim Duncan at Wake

pissclams · « **Reply #1411 on:** March 29, 2015, 05:12:25 PM »

both had soft hands, great feet. good comparo.

Mr Bread · « **Reply #1412 on:** March 29, 2015, 05:22:25 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 29, 2015, 04:14:56 PM

imo, okafor is the best college player in a really long time.

i love his game. best since who?

Anthony Davis. He led that UK team in scoring, rebounds, blocks and steals. Okafor has him on offensive post moves and that's about it.

pissclams · « **Reply #1413 on:** March 29, 2015, 05:44:34 PM »

comparo denied
the question is who is as good as or better than okafor. my God, try to keep up "bread"

Mr Bread · « **Reply #1414 on:** March 29, 2015, 05:51:21 PM »

I would take Davis on my team over Okafor and my team would cram its balls down the throat of any Okafor teams that were assembled. Davis is better at basketball and was as a freshman. 0kafor is a nice fat-assed, slow-footed post player for people who swing that way. Not to my taste.

Skipper44 · « **Reply #1415 on:** March 29, 2015, 06:39:05 PM »

i would rather have Justise than Okafor and he will have a better pro career too.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #1416 on:** March 29, 2015, 08:20:56 PM »

Quote from: Stevesie60 on March 29, 2015, 02:06:15 PM

They just said that Wisc vs. UK will be the third Final 4 rematch in history. They have to mean in consecutive years, right?

Yes.

pissclams · « **Reply #1417 on:** March 29, 2015, 08:27:53 PM »

Quote from: Mr Bread on March 29, 2015, 05:51:21 PM

I would take Davis on my team over Okafor and my team would cram its balls down the throat of any Okafor teams that were assembled. Davis is better at basketball and was as a freshman. 0kafor is a nice fat-assed, slow-footed post player for people who swing that way. Not to my taste.

davis was a good college player. that's about it.
okafor is a different level type of player that obviously beat the living crap out of you at least twice a week when you were in high school, because that's obvious.
anyway, buy some band aids and heal the eff up. maybe some Neosporin. wtf.

skipper, what the hell is wrong with you? i'm guessing there was a lot of lead paint in the house you grew up in.

wetwillie · « **Reply #1418 on:** March 29, 2015, 08:32:51 PM »

Who will check okafor for kentucky? Towns has problems with fouling and I don't think Cauley can go one on one with him. Probably just rotate their 6 bigs on him to wear him down.

SdK · « **Reply #1419 on:** March 29, 2015, 08:33:34 PM »

Okafor will score maybe 12 points.

pissclams · « **Reply #1420 on:** March 29, 2015, 08:40:37 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 29, 2015, 08:32:51 PM

Who will check okafor for kentucky? Towns has problems with fouling and I don't think Cauley can go one on one with him. Probably just rotate their 6 bigs on him to wear him down.

ya Duke is going to suffer the same fate as ND did, and as most teams have, against UK and that's struggle with depth. duke does have plumlee that they can put on towns but K rarely plays he and JO together.
i'm interested to see what K does with jefferson and winslow. my guess is that duke will play a close game but just get worn down in the end. hope i am wrong though!

kso_FAN · « **Reply #1421 on:** March 29, 2015, 10:28:56 PM »

kenpom on the 2 for 1 debate. http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/how_much_are_two_for_ones_worth

michigancat · « **Reply #1422 on:** March 30, 2015, 10:00:51 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on March 30, 2015, 09:53:46 AM

http://www.thepasadenapost.com/post/112768850743/former-william-wesley-acquaintance-calipari

LOL

kso_FAN · « **Reply #1423 on:** March 30, 2015, 02:48:32 PM »

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/tom-izzo-is-the-best-coach-in-modern-ncaa-tournament-history-by-far/

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/tom-izzo-michigan-state-coaching-final-four/

Skipper44 · « **Reply #1424 on:** March 30, 2015, 03:01:32 PM »

wow, right in the face of the of "UT would be dumb to fire Rick Barnes" folks (although I am not sure what to do with Lute right next to him)