Author Topic: Another school shooting (Read 491586 times)

mocat · « **Reply #4575 on:** February 17, 2018, 01:08:14 PM »

The Left needs to stop politicizing

https://twitter.com/BobWeiss91362/status/964534393464283137

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #4576 on:** February 17, 2018, 01:11:51 PM »

That Vegas shooter must have found some old machine guns

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #4577 on:** February 17, 2018, 03:55:53 PM »

Quote from: Joker on February 17, 2018, 12:14:55 PM

Quote from: WackyCat08 on February 17, 2018, 10:52:05 AM
The easiest answer to this is to take away automatic weapons. The diseased will still find a way to get them, but at least it will slow down the process.

I assume you mean semi-auto? Automatic weapons are already banned.

Banning semi-automatic weapons would eliminate the majority of modern handguns sold/used today.

Great. I bet you'd also see a reduction in school children getting their heads blown off.

8manpick · « **Reply #4578 on:** February 17, 2018, 06:55:17 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 08:14:57 AM

Quote from: 8manpick on February 17, 2018, 07:59:16 AM
Quote from: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 07:55:23 AM
Quote from: 8manpick on February 17, 2018, 07:29:25 AM
Getting the insurance industry involved in more parts of life rather than fewer is a pretty WTF idea.
why
The insurance industry has had a toxic effect on our healthcare system, and I would expect it to act similarly here.
Still pretty vague and not a great comparison.

Yeah, it is vague and probably doesn't apply very well, but it's not like you laid out a 3 page proposal to break down. It was a one line comment to a tweet, and my immediate thoughts on it.

I don't understand what insurance is supposed to accomplish. When we get car insurance, it is so we aren't personally liable for all of the damages we cause with our car. It shifts the burden off of the person and to the insurance company (paid for by the pool of policy holders).

Why would we want to reduce the responsibility of the gun owner?

The only somewhat positive thing it would appear to accomplish is a registry of sorts.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #4579 on:** February 17, 2018, 06:58:44 PM »

High risk people wouldn't be able to get gun insurance, which wouldn't let them legally own a gun.

I agree that it's not a good idea, but that's idea behind it.

michigancat · « **Reply #4580 on:** February 17, 2018, 07:21:58 PM »

Quote from: 8manpick on February 17, 2018, 06:55:17 PM

Quote from: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 08:14:57 AM
Quote from: 8manpick on February 17, 2018, 07:59:16 AM
Quote from: michigancat on February 17, 2018, 07:55:23 AM
Quote from: 8manpick on February 17, 2018, 07:29:25 AM
Getting the insurance industry involved in more parts of life rather than fewer is a pretty WTF idea.
why
The insurance industry has had a toxic effect on our healthcare system, and I would expect it to act similarly here.
Still pretty vague and not a great comparison.
Yeah, it is vague and probably doesn't apply very well, but it's not like you laid out a 3 page proposal to break down. It was a one line comment to a tweet, and my immediate thoughts on it.

I don't understand what insurance is supposed to accomplish. When we get car insurance, it is so we aren't personally liable for all of the damages we cause with our car. It shifts the burden off of the person and to the insurance company (paid for by the pool of policy holders).

Why would we want to reduce the responsibility of the gun owner?

The only somewhat positive thing it would appear to accomplish is a registry of sorts.

That's fair

8manpick · « **Reply #4581 on:** February 17, 2018, 07:26:28 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on February 17, 2018, 06:58:44 PM

High risk people wouldn't be able to get gun insurance, which wouldn't let them legally own a gun.

I agree that it's not a good idea, but that's idea behind it.

That is simply a license, not insurance.

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #4582 on:** February 17, 2018, 07:50:06 PM »

I suggest a 100% tax to pay for all the stuff SD said.

steve dave · « **Reply #4583 on:** February 17, 2018, 07:55:08 PM »

Quote from: Mrs. Gooch on February 17, 2018, 07:50:06 PM

I suggest a 100% tax to pay for all the stuff SD said.

Whatever makes sense.

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Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #4584 on:** February 18, 2018, 11:34:37 AM »

I think requiring liability insurance of $1 million per murder victim would be a good thing to do for those we currently aren't really doing anything for. It would make guns unaffordable for most perpetrators of violent crimes and the mentally ill, too.

Joker · « **Reply #4585 on:** February 18, 2018, 12:22:31 PM »

Quote from: Dugout DickStone on February 17, 2018, 01:11:51 PM

That Vegas shooter must have found some old machine guns

The coward in Vegas used semi-automatic weapons that he modified to function similar to automatic weapons.

bucket · « **Reply #4586 on:** February 18, 2018, 12:27:47 PM »

Quote from: Joker on February 18, 2018, 12:22:31 PM

Quote from: Dugout DickStone on February 17, 2018, 01:11:51 PM
That Vegas shooter must have found some old machine guns

The coward in Vegas used semi-automatic weapons that he modified to function similar to automatic weapons.

It's a shame we can't do anything about that.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #4587 on:** February 18, 2018, 12:28:48 PM »

Quote from: Joker on February 18, 2018, 12:22:31 PM

Quote from: Dugout DickStone on February 17, 2018, 01:11:51 PM
That Vegas shooter must have found some old machine guns

The coward in Vegas used semi-automatic weapons that he modified to function similar to automatic weapons.

So machine guns are essentially available

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #4588 on:** February 18, 2018, 12:49:17 PM »

Should probably make mass homicide illegal too. Maybe require all people to carry homicide liability insurance just in case.

Joker · « **Reply #4589 on:** February 18, 2018, 12:52:23 PM »

Quote from: Dugout DickStone on February 18, 2018, 12:28:48 PM

Quote from: Joker on February 18, 2018, 12:22:31 PM
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on February 17, 2018, 01:11:51 PM
That Vegas shooter must have found some old machine guns

The coward in Vegas used semi-automatic weapons that he modified to function similar to automatic weapons.

So machine guns are essentially available

Sure. Much in the same way that bombs are essentially available for those who wish to assemble them. You can't purchase a machine gun from a gun store.

That being said, I'm not lobbying for the use of modified AR-15s. I really don't have any problem with banning their sale going forward. I was simply correcting the terminology used in Wacky's post. There is a big difference between auto and semi-auto.

gatoveintisiete · « **Reply #4590 on:** February 18, 2018, 01:08:48 PM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 18, 2018, 12:49:17 PM

Should probably make mass homicide illegal too. Maybe require all people to carry homicide liability insurance just in case.

Yes this, and as a deterrent put them in prison for life or off them, we need to get tough on this crap

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #4591 on:** February 18, 2018, 04:02:08 PM »

Are we banning all guns that fire .223/5.56 rounds, or just the AR-15?

#Gunphobes

wetwillie · « **Reply #4592 on:** February 18, 2018, 04:38:53 PM »

No ban just a fat tax that goes to fortify schools and treat mentally ill. It’s easy to do we all agree to it and it’s that simple.

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #4593 on:** February 18, 2018, 04:42:41 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on February 18, 2018, 04:38:53 PM

No ban just a fat tax that goes to fortify schools and treat mentally ill. It’s easy to do we all agree to it and it’s that simple.

This. At least a 100% tax.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #4594 on:** February 18, 2018, 04:48:04 PM »

Tax on what?

wetwillie · « **Reply #4595 on:** February 20, 2018, 01:33:00 PM »

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 18, 2018, 04:48:04 PM

Tax on what?

Gun sales

steve dave · « **Reply #4596 on:** February 20, 2018, 01:57:58 PM »

Quote from: gatoveintisiete on February 18, 2018, 01:08:48 PM

Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 18, 2018, 12:49:17 PM
Should probably make mass homicide illegal too. Maybe require all people to carry homicide liability insurance just in case.

Yes this, and as a deterrent put them in prison for life or off them, we need to get tough on this crap

love this argument. it's very big in Meade, KS facebook circles. should probably make terrorism and flying planes into buildings illegal as well but do nothing to curtail it ever.

catastrophe · « **Reply #4597 on:** February 20, 2018, 03:17:33 PM »

Different argument

puniraptor · « **Reply #4598 on:** February 20, 2018, 04:52:40 PM »

Quote from: justanotherguy on February 20, 2018, 03:29:05 PM

Did see they will ban rof modifications. (bump stock, cranks, etc.)

not they, trump is directing the DOJ.

unilateral gun control act, his base will finally flip on him?

puniraptor · « **Reply #4599 on:** February 20, 2018, 05:35:59 PM »

Quote from: justanotherguy on February 20, 2018, 05:25:36 PM

Doubt many would be upset by this. Modifying weapons in this manner is pretty stupid and dangerous.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED