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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #50 on: November 16, 2012, 02:38:35 PM »
And again, midmajor upsets are a dime a dozen in NCAA tournament (see KU).  Not so in football.  Teams like Butler and VCU play are routinely in the Final 4 - Butler being in back-to-back championships). 

In football, there are no Cindarellas.  You've got to be good and you've got to be good 13 weeks in-a-row.     

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #51 on: November 16, 2012, 02:38:58 PM »
football is much more difficult than bball b/c you've got to go undefeated (sans SEC schools). 

Cindarellas don't make it to Championship game in football.  Final 4 is full is cindarellas.


Disagree.  Basketball is much more difficult because you have to win six games in a row in a single elimination format, and you have to do it all on the biggest stage in sports.

Surely you don't believe this, right? All you have to do is be one of the top 68 teams in the country and get hot at the right time of year and you can play for a NCAA championship. You can literally have 10-12 losses and win a national title in basketball.

This. You can lose 1/3 or your games and still get a chance. In college football if you lose 1/12 you're basically out

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2012, 02:41:43 PM »
And again, midmajor upsets are a dime a dozen in NCAA tournament (see KU).  Not so in football.  Teams like Butler and VCU play are routinely in the Final 4 - Butler being in back-to-back championships). 

In football, there are no Cindarellas.  You've got to be good and you've got to be good 13 weeks in-a-row.     


TCU, Boise State, Cincinnati, etc, etc.  College football has cinderellas, they just don't have a system that allows cinderellas to compete for a national title.  It's this exclusivity that makes it even easier to win a title in football.  K-State doesn't have to play Texas A&M or Alabama to win a national title in football.  All you have to do is win a conference game at Oklahoma, and you're in.  It's a joke.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #53 on: November 16, 2012, 02:43:38 PM »

Disagree.  Basketball is much more difficult because you have to win six games in a row in a single elimination format, and you have to do it all on the biggest stage in sports.


In Football, you have to win 12 games in a row in a single elimination format (sans SEC schools), and you have to do it all on THE biggest stage in sports.  And when I say biggest stage in sports, I mean highest TV viewership.

This year is a pretty perfect example.  Bama is the best team in America and because of a poor 1st quarter against A&M in week 10, their path to the MNC is now beyond their control.


LSU won a national title with 2 losses.  This myth that you have to go undefeated is cute, but it's simply not true.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2012, 02:44:32 PM »
Dang that guy handwriting worst then mine and i have a reason for mine being bad because of my cerebral palsy. His handwriting looked like a drunk midget wrote it.

Drunk midget is worse than cerebral palsy?  Fanning's relatively tall.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #55 on: November 16, 2012, 02:44:43 PM »
And again, midmajor upsets are a dime a dozen in NCAA tournament (see KU).  Not so in football.  Teams like Butler and VCU play are routinely in the Final 4 - Butler being in back-to-back championships). 

In football, there are no Cindarellas.  You've got to be good and you've got to be good 13 weeks in-a-row.     


TCU, Boise State, Cincinnati, etc, etc.  College football has cinderellas, they just don't have a system that allows cinderellas to compete for a national title.  It's this exclusivity that makes it even easier to win a title in football.  K-State doesn't have to play Texas A&M or Alabama to win a national title in football.  All you have to do is win a conference game at Oklahoma, and you're in.  It's a joke.

You serious Clark?? Why the hell have we been playing games all season then!?!  :dunno:

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #56 on: November 16, 2012, 02:46:14 PM »
I'd even argue that winning a Big 12 title is harder than winning a Natty in basketball, especially for Nortards

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2012, 02:48:05 PM »

Disagree.  Basketball is much more difficult because you have to win six games in a row in a single elimination format, and you have to do it all on the biggest stage in sports.


In Football, you have to win 12 games in a row in a single elimination format (sans SEC schools), and you have to do it all on THE biggest stage in sports.  And when I say biggest stage in sports, I mean highest TV viewership.

This year is a pretty perfect example.  Bama is the best team in America and because of a poor 1st quarter against A&M in week 10, their path to the MNC is now beyond their control.


LSU won a national title with 2 losses.  This myth that you have to go undefeated is cute, but it's simply not true.

Holy crap you are pants on head Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).


Multiple teams outside of the SEC have won national titles without going undefeated.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2012, 02:49:40 PM »
The last time KU won at Oklahoma and also beat Kansas State in the same year was 1975. The Jayhawks finished 7-5 that year.

So easy it's a joke.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2012, 02:49:55 PM »

TCU, Boise State, Cincinnati, etc, etc.  College football has cinderellas, they just don't have a system that allows cinderellas to compete for a national title.  It's this exclusivity that makes it even easier to win a title in football.  K-State doesn't have to play Texas A&M or Alabama to win a national title in football.  All you have to do is win a conference game at Oklahoma, and you're in.  It's a joke.


This is the point.  Because there is no playoff, cindarellas like TCU, Boise, Cincinatti, Louisiville, aren't allowed in.  It's not like the NCAAs, where teams like Bucknell, St. Mary's, Bradley and the likes routinely win and advance. 


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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2012, 02:52:01 PM »
Brad called fanning a drunk midget with sub-cerebral-palsy motor skills. :lol:

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2012, 02:52:25 PM »
In football, all you have to do is go undefeated in a BCS conference, and you've got a seat in the national title game.

oh is that all?

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2012, 02:52:59 PM »
And again, midmajor upsets are a dime a dozen in NCAA tournament (see KU).  Not so in football.  Teams like Butler and VCU play are routinely in the Final 4 - Butler being in back-to-back championships). 

In football, there are no Cindarellas.  You've got to be good and you've got to be good 13 weeks in-a-row.     


TCU, Boise State, Cincinnati, etc, etc.  College football has cinderellas, they just don't have a system that allows cinderellas to compete for a national title.  It's this exclusivity that makes it even easier to win a title in football.  K-State doesn't have to play Texas A&M or Alabama to win a national title in football.  All you have to do is win a conference game at Oklahoma, and you're in.  It's a joke.

You serious Clark?? Why the hell have we been playing games all season then!?!  :dunno:



Yeah, I'm serious.  What other games have had national implications outside of Oklahoma?  K-State's non-con schedule sucked.  The Big 12 is looking more and more mediocre as the season goes along.  I just don't see how you can argue that going undefeated in this year's Big 12 is really that much of a challenge.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2012, 02:55:10 PM »
And again, midmajor upsets are a dime a dozen in NCAA tournament (see KU).  Not so in football.  Teams like Butler and VCU play are routinely in the Final 4 - Butler being in back-to-back championships). 

In football, there are no Cindarellas.  You've got to be good and you've got to be good 13 weeks in-a-row.     


TCU, Boise State, Cincinnati, etc, etc.  College football has cinderellas, they just don't have a system that allows cinderellas to compete for a national title.  It's this exclusivity that makes it even easier to win a title in football.  K-State doesn't have to play Texas A&M or Alabama to win a national title in football.  All you have to do is win a conference game at Oklahoma, and you're in.  It's a joke.

You serious Clark?? Why the hell have we been playing games all season then!?!  :dunno:



Yeah, I'm serious.  What other games have had national implications outside of Oklahoma?  K-State's non-con schedule sucked.  The Big 12 is looking more and more mediocre as the season goes along.  I just don't see how you can argue that going undefeated in this year's Big 12 is really that much of a challenge.

Going winless in a mediocre conference is just as challenging then

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2012, 02:55:18 PM »
The Big 12 is looking more and more mediocre as the season goes along.  I just don't see how you can argue that going undefeated in this year's Big 12 is really that much of a challenge.

  1  BIG 12              (A) =  81.92      81.92  (  1)     10      81.96  (  1)
   2  SOUTHEASTERN        (A) =  80.94      80.90  (  2)     14      80.98  (  2)
   3  PAC-12              (A) =  79.90      78.72  (  3)     12      79.29  (  3)
   4  BIG TEN             (A) =  75.39      74.70  (  4)     12      74.88  (  4)
   5  I-A INDEPENDENTS    (A) =  73.67      73.69  (  5)      4      73.67  (  5)
   6  BIG EAST            (A) =  70.06      69.53  (  7)      8      69.59  (  7)
   7  ATLANTIC COAST      (A) =  69.68      70.05  (  6)     12      69.92  (  6)
   8  SUN BELT            (A) =  64.94      64.52  (  9)     10      64.58  (  8)
   9  MOUNTAIN WEST       (A) =  63.82      64.61  (  8)     10      64.46  (  9)
  10  WESTERN ATHLETIC    (A) =  63.46      63.86  ( 10)      7      63.73  ( 10)
  11  MISSOURI VALLEY     (AA)=  60.99      59.98  ( 13)     10      60.32  ( 13)
  12  MID-AMERICAN        (A) =  60.80      60.63  ( 12)     13      60.68  ( 12)
  13  CONFERENCE USA      (A) =  60.63      61.10  ( 11)     12      61.00  ( 11)
  14  BIG SKY             (AA)=  55.41      54.90  ( 14)     13      55.21  ( 14)
  15  OHIO VALLEY         (AA)=  54.20      53.09  ( 16)      9      53.35  ( 15)
  16  SOUTHERN            (AA)=  53.89      53.19  ( 15)      9      53.31  ( 16)
  17  COLONIAL            (AA)=  53.54      51.37  ( 17)     11      52.18  ( 17)
  18  SOUTHLAND           (AA)=  50.23      50.78  ( 18)      8      50.52  ( 18)
  19  IVY LEAGUE          (AA)=  43.20      43.43  ( 19)      8      43.34  ( 19)
  20  PATRIOT LEAGUE      (AA)=  42.03      42.09  ( 20)      7      42.08  ( 20)
  21  MID-EASTERN         (AA)=  40.11      39.78  ( 21)     11      39.83  ( 21)
  22  NORTHEAST           (AA)=  38.99      39.43  ( 22)      9      39.35  ( 22)
  23  BIG SOUTH           (AA)=  37.67      38.74  ( 23)      7      38.23  ( 23)
  24  SOUTHWESTERN        (AA)=  34.85      35.14  ( 24)     10      35.08  ( 24)
  25  PIONEER             (AA)=  32.76      31.45  ( 25)     10      32.15  ( 25)
  26  ***UNRATED***       (**)= -90.00     -90.00  ( 26)      1     -90.00  ( 26)

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2012, 02:55:49 PM »
How often do people go undefeated in BCS conferences? Seems pretty hard

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2012, 02:55:49 PM »
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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #68 on: November 16, 2012, 02:57:30 PM »
And again, midmajor upsets are a dime a dozen in NCAA tournament (see KU).  Not so in football.  Teams like Butler and VCU play are routinely in the Final 4 - Butler being in back-to-back championships). 

In football, there are no Cindarellas.  You've got to be good and you've got to be good 13 weeks in-a-row.     


TCU, Boise State, Cincinnati, etc, etc.  College football has cinderellas, they just don't have a system that allows cinderellas to compete for a national title.  It's this exclusivity that makes it even easier to win a title in football.  K-State doesn't have to play Texas A&M or Alabama to win a national title in football.  All you have to do is win a conference game at Oklahoma, and you're in.  It's a joke.

You serious Clark?? Why the hell have we been playing games all season then!?!  :dunno:



Yeah, I'm serious.  What other games have had national implications outside of Oklahoma?  K-State's non-con schedule sucked.  The Big 12 is looking more and more mediocre as the season goes along.  I just don't see how you can argue that going undefeated in this year's Big 12 is really that much of a challenge.

Going winless in a mediocre conference is just as challenging then


That winless team has almost beaten Texas, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech.  Three teams that are supposed to be "challenging." 

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #69 on: November 16, 2012, 02:58:05 PM »
football is much more difficult than bball b/c you've got to go undefeated (sans SEC schools). 

Cindarellas don't make it to Championship game in football.  Final 4 is full is cindarellas.


Disagree.  Basketball is much more difficult because you have to win six games in a row in a single elimination format, and you have to do it all on the biggest stage in sports.

oscar Weber did it.


No he didn't.

Yeah, he did. 
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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #70 on: November 16, 2012, 02:58:47 PM »
Brad called fanning a drunk midget with sub-cerebral-palsy motor skills. :lol:
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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #71 on: November 16, 2012, 02:58:57 PM »
Big 12 Moral Victory Champions 2012!  :party:

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #72 on: November 16, 2012, 03:00:15 PM »
football is much more difficult than bball b/c you've got to go undefeated (sans SEC schools). 

Cindarellas don't make it to Championship game in football.  Final 4 is full is cindarellas.


Disagree.  Basketball is much more difficult because you have to win six games in a row in a single elimination format, and you have to do it all on the biggest stage in sports.

oscar Weber did it.


No he didn't.

Yeah, he did.


Again, no he didn't.  He didn't make it to the championship game in football, either.

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Re: Danny Clinkscale: Truth serum
« Reply #73 on: November 16, 2012, 03:00:27 PM »
Guys, I'm pretty sure basketball is harder.  They play more games and have to score more points to win.  It's basic math.

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« Reply #74 on: November 16, 2012, 03:02:11 PM »
So much fun.  :billdance: