Author Topic: The DACA masterpiece (Read 37139 times)

sys · « **Reply #450 on:** April 02, 2018, 04:47:55 PM »

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Twenty-five years ago, the United States gave Mexico an enormous gift: the North American Free Trade Agreement. The deal enriched Mexico, but impoverished the United States. Even worse, Mexico is repaying that generosity by sending massive flows of both drugs and people—and not their best people, mind you—over the border into the United States. Mexico could control the border with the U.S., but it refuses to do so. Now is the time for the U.S. to use the leverage it gained with NAFTA and stop that, by forcing Mexico to pay for a wall along the border.

Inextricably tied into this is Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. That policy is good, in that it allows good people brought to the U.S. as children to stay, but also bad, because it encourages large flows of people to the United States seeking to take advantage of it. On the one hand, Democrats are to blame for blocking the law, and the Senate needs to invoke the nuclear option and lower the threshold for all bills to 50 votes, but on the other hand, it’s too late now and DACA is over.

bucket · « **Reply #451 on:** April 02, 2018, 07:23:01 PM »

Quote from: sys on April 02, 2018, 04:47:55 PM

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Twenty-five years ago, the United States gave Mexico an enormous gift: the North American Free Trade Agreement. The deal enriched Mexico, but impoverished the United States. Even worse, Mexico is repaying that generosity by sending massive flows of both drugs and people—and not their best people, mind you—over the border into the United States. Mexico could control the border with the U.S., but it refuses to do so. Now is the time for the U.S. to use the leverage it gained with NAFTA and stop that, by forcing Mexico to pay for a wall along the border.

Inextricably tied into this is Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. That policy is good, in that it allows good people brought to the U.S. as children to stay, but also bad, because it encourages large flows of people to the United States seeking to take advantage of it. On the one hand, Democrats are to blame for blocking the law, and the Senate needs to invoke the nuclear option and lower the threshold for all bills to 50 votes, but on the other hand, it’s too late now and DACA is over.

Are you on the Trump campaign mailing list, Sys?

renocat · « **Reply #452 on:** April 02, 2018, 10:29:06 PM »

Democrats are to blame for this mess

Institutional Control · « **Reply #453 on:** April 03, 2018, 07:31:16 AM »

Quote from: renocat on April 02, 2018, 10:29:06 PM

Democrats are to blame for this mess

lol

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #454 on:** April 03, 2018, 12:38:10 PM »

The democrats would sooner put all the dreamers in ocean containers and shove them off a ship into the pacific, than let Don take credit for DACA.

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #455 on:** April 17, 2018, 10:02:59 PM »

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/986436664963813376?s=19

sys · « **Reply #456 on:** June 14, 2018, 08:56:57 AM »

https://twitter.com/petersuderman/status/1006898539882926082

this seems to me to have become a moral imperative.

sys · « **Reply #457 on:** June 14, 2018, 10:00:20 AM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/scanning-immigrants-old-fingerprints-us-threatens-to-strip-thousands-of-citizenship/2018/06/13/2230d8a2-6f2e-11e8-afd5-778aca903bbe_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.631b582ae161

insane.

sys · « **Reply #458 on:** June 17, 2018, 04:09:10 AM »

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Economists have estimated that a world of open borders would double world GDP.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/10/get-rid-borders-completely/409501/

sys · « **Reply #459 on:** June 20, 2018, 11:13:46 AM »

https://twitter.com/m_clem/status/1009076585230749696

catastrophe · « **Reply #460 on:** June 20, 2018, 11:44:43 AM »

Link? That sounds crazy and maybe not legal.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #461 on:** June 20, 2018, 11:50:12 AM »

The biggest winner from open borders is the surveillance state economy.

That said, we need real immigration reform and an easier pathway to citizenship, but open borders is national suicide in a Post 911 world.

Even the EU is starting to realize this.

sys · « **Reply #462 on:** June 20, 2018, 11:52:23 AM »

Quote from: catastrophe on June 20, 2018, 11:44:43 AM

Link? That sounds crazy and maybe not legal.

link to what? there is a link to the nyt story in the tweet.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #463 on:** June 20, 2018, 11:52:34 AM »

Quote from: sys on June 20, 2018, 11:13:46 AM

https://twitter.com/m_clem/status/1009076585230749696

Estimates? We're relying on government estimates?

Yep, no peril in that.

Say, how are those "estimates" working out on that train project in California?

catastrophe · « **Reply #464 on:** June 20, 2018, 11:53:43 AM »

Quote from: sys on June 20, 2018, 11:52:23 AM

Quote from: catastrophe on June 20, 2018, 11:44:43 AM
Link? That sounds crazy and maybe not legal.

link to what? there is a link to the nyt story in the tweet.

Didn’t see it on my phone.

catastrophe · « **Reply #465 on:** June 20, 2018, 11:56:55 AM »

Sheesh, cross-post POS Republicans thread.

sys · « **Reply #466 on:** June 29, 2018, 09:26:31 AM »

good reporting here.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/27/this-is-bull-inside-the-gops-immigration-meltdown-680106

sys · « **Reply #467 on:** June 29, 2018, 11:23:43 AM »

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/28/624207450/former-ice-chief-counsel-facing-prison-time-for-stealing-immigrants-identities?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=politics&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180628

ChiComCat · « **Reply #468 on:** June 29, 2018, 02:42:47 PM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on June 20, 2018, 11:52:34 AM

Quote from: sys on June 20, 2018, 11:13:46 AM
https://twitter.com/m_clem/status/1009076585230749696

Estimates? We're relying on government estimates?

Yep, no peril in that.

Say, how are those "estimates" working out on that train project in California?

If one estimate is wrong, clearly they all are :rollseyes:

A much better way is to operate on gut feelings and fear mongering

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #469 on:** June 29, 2018, 04:38:58 PM »

Oh gawd please please please Dems make #abolishICE your rallying cry headed into the midterms!

http://thehill.com/latino/394782-protests-against-trump-immigration-policy-expected-nationwide

sys · « **Reply #470 on:** June 29, 2018, 07:02:31 PM »

https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1012741406757130240

star seed 7 · « **Reply #471 on:** June 29, 2018, 07:06:27 PM »

seems like your average simi valley juror

sys · « **Reply #472 on:** June 30, 2018, 09:00:53 PM »

https://twitter.com/moira/status/1012882770207571968

sys · « **Reply #473 on:** July 01, 2018, 12:28:53 PM »

people should read this article.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2018/06/30/feature/are-you-alone-now-after-raid-immigrant-families-are-separated-in-the-american-heartland/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.20c1b040db28

sys · « **Reply #474 on:** July 03, 2018, 05:04:49 PM »

https://twitter.com/bpolitics/status/1013765455616663552