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I'm two episodes in and all of these animal people seem to be pieces of crap.Big Cat people. Am I right?
i don't think it is the case that lots of people (in the us) are going to die no matter what. depending on your definition of lots of people, of course.
there's no reason we can't do what east asian countries have done, and keep it up until a vaccine is available.
Even some of the benefit is better than none. Outside of maybe three healthcare systems in the country, no one even knows the extent of the problem in the US right now. Once that is determined it can be handled mostly at the state and local level IF testing capacity is dramatically improved.https://www.politico.eu/article/locked-down-europe-how-long-can-afford-this/Quote"It is impossible to live — even in self-isolation — and to cure people, if we do not continue the economic activity that, quite simply, permits us to live in this country,” he said while chairing an "economy task force" dealing with the outbreak.
Macron is also the most prominent voice to warn people that a vaccine is not imminent, and probably won't arrive until the end of 2021. The message is clear: It won't be possible for people to stay at home until then.
"It’s a very difficult balancing act," said Mujtaba Rahman, Europe director at EurasiaGroup, a political risk consultancy firm. "It’s not clear that any government has a credible exit strategy."
The Imperial College London study offers another approach: A phase of alternating lockdowns and relaxations over a total period of two years, during which governments relax social distancing measures for about a month, every three months or so.
Sébastien Maillard, director of the Jacques Delors Institute in Paris, said he expects “a moment more of strict confinement, gradually back to a functional economy, and perhaps unfortunately later in the year we’d have to go back to social confinement until we get that vaccine.”
Researchers warned that any periods of respite would be short. “Social distancing — plus school and university closure, if used — need to be in force for the majority of the two years of the simulation,” the study's authors wrote.
This leaves governments with the same dilemma: They will need to prepare their populations for either a year or more under lockdown, or for massive deaths in the coming months. Neither is an easy sell.
Not one person has said we are locking people up in their homes until a vaccine. The whole goal right now is to give us time. Time to handle more sick people, time to build up testing, time to develop a strategy for getting people back out, time to figure this virus details out, time to find therapeutic options.
How much time? What is the exit strategy?
The point also is that to get all of the benefit of social distancing, you need to do it for 12-24 months, as stated in the Imperial College report. Otherwise, you're still going to potentially have high death tolls.
Yeah I don’t think it’s offensive, but agree with sys that he doesn’t have a shot regardless of what happens to Biden.there is such obvious evidence of mental decay in Biden that Bernie staying in the race is a decent hedge.
And this would be offensively opportunistic.
And look how you came out of that recession bud. Things are gonna be ok and we don’t have to let millions die to get there.I’ve learned the difference between me and MAGAs is that MAGAs are willing to die to keep the economy humming along and I’m willing to take a few years of recession in order to avoid death.You also probably aren’t paying a second mortgage in student loan debt from the last recession too.
I have models for how many are expected to die if we don’t take extreme measures now. I’m happy to review any estimates you have of how many will die due to recession to compare.I’ve learned the difference between me and MAGAs is that MAGAs are willing to die to keep the economy humming along and I’m willing to take a few years of recession in order to avoid death.
I think you might want to consider how many people will die because of an economic depression. Even in the last recession suicides and overdoses spiked, not to mention healthcare is deferred, etc. The birthrate also falls which, despite what the pro baby murder lobby around here thinks, is not a good thing.
The flu deaths are still astonishing imo, like what if we didn't have a vaccine.Yeah this whole deal provides a great opportunity for educating folks about the importance of getting the flu shot. Like, 20 yo Cat could have killed someone just cause he wasn’t worried about getting sick with the flu.
