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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: renocat on November 01, 2017, 05:41:04 PM
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Coach Wacky, fan, and other elite minds.
We shot around 58% against the tiguurs. A lot of 3 pointers.
Question, can we do this against real teams? Will % go down with Stokes playing?
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I think we're going to be really good, Reno. I think we'll have some decent depth this year. We're definitely a guard oriented team. Should be fun to watch us liight it up from downtown. :thumbs:
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We might know something about this team in late November, early December.
I'm anxious to see if Sneed, Wade, Brown, Stokes are better (at least 2 must be All Big 12 level players), if Diarra is the real deal, and if any of these transfer bigs are any good.
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Who will benefit most from the depth mentioned? How will they benefit? I have my screwy thoughts, but what our brain-meisters?
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I don't see the depth. I have concerns.
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Our big men. Oh my goodness, so bad.
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Our big men. Oh my goodness, so bad.
We have had two games and another one tonight. What have you seen about the big men that is so bad?
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Our big men. Oh my goodness, so bad.
We have had two games and another one tonight. What have you seen about the big men that is so bad?
Everything. I see no indication that they will do much of anything besides take up space.
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are you guys cheering for us to win for short term ok'ness or hoping we lose for long term actually being decent should our shitty AD make a hail mary hire that's worth a crap?
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are you guys cheering for us to win for short term ok'ness or hoping we lose for long term actually being decent should our shitty AD make a hail mary hire that's worth a crap?
Waiting on sys.
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imo, the basketball hires Old balls AD made were pretty good considering the BFE school he made them for.
At this point I see no way we are ever anything more than a bubble team with oscar here and expect recruiting to get worse with Cuonzo now at Mizzou.
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This team is going to make the tourney. Buckle in, fellas.
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YES wacky!
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Should we be able to shoot threes this year? Why is this so dang important?
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Is American U better than the teams we have exhibited with so far this year? Did the preseason games have any value?
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Is American U better than the teams we have exhibited with so far this year? Did the preseason games have any value?
Better than Hays or ESU. Ameican is 275 Ken Pom preseason and Missouri State is 99.
Will be more about seeing what our guys do.
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We might know something about this team in late November, early December.
I'm anxious to see if Sneed, Wade, Brown, Stokes are better (at least 2 must be All Big 12 level players), if Diarra is the real deal, and if any of these transfer bigs are any good.
oscar is going to play with so much balance. Those four guys are probably going to have possessions rates between roughly 20-23. The key will if Sneed and Wade can have higher shot percentages and Brown and Stokes imporving their efficiency. Is anybody going to be impactful enough to be all big 12? The one thing that probably could push them in the top half of the big 12 would be defense. oscar has proven that he an have really good defenses at times.
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Any thoughts on the player rotation at the start of year?
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Any thoughts on the player rotation at the start of year?
Brown, Stokes & Sneed to start in the back court. Diarra, Wainright & Patrick rotate in. McGuirl may get a shot here too.
Wade & Sallah in the front court. Mawein rotates in. Shadd and Stockard battle to be the 4th guy in the rotation.
Someone is upset and gets run off by semester since we signed a guy with no current open scholarship available.
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Someone is upset and gets run off by semester since we signed a guy with no current open scholarship available.
Also because someone needs to be eliminated in order for the reno roster to fit nicely and symmetrically on one page.
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Any thoughts on the player rotation at the start of year?
Brown, Stokes & Sneed to start in the back court. Diarra, Wainright & Patrick rotate in. McGuirl may get a shot here too.
Wade & Sallah in the front court. Mawein rotates in. Shadd and Stockard battle to be the 4th guy in the rotation.
Someone is upset and gets run off by semester since we signed a guy with no current open scholarship available.
You are right except hard to say if Mawien or Sallah start at the five and Shadd may push both of them later in the year.
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Guys, the extra scholly is coming from Stokes. He is going pro, remember? Duh
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Ken Corbitt in TCJ said, "Playing a bit shorthanded last season due to injuries, Weber is banking on that depth to help the Wildcats exceed their predicted eighth-place finish in the Big 12 and earn a second straight trip to the NCAA Tournament."
Will depth be a plus for us this year? Will we fade at the end of.games or at the middle of the year?
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I told you this team was deep. Happy other ppl are seeing this as well. Just need to overcome our bigs.
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I told you this team was deep. Happy other ppl are seeing this as well. Just need to overcome our bigs.
I would do regrettable things in order to get Maurice & his blunts back on the team
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I know :frown:
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I recently read Oscar wants to use a pro style motion offense like the NBA Warriors. Coach, could you please explain what this means. Do we have players that can execute it? We have very very smart players, is that helpful? Does having depth help? Is this style of offense too hard for newbies? Do you make players fit into your scheme as a coach, or do you find and use a scheme that befit the talent of your players?
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I told you this team was deep. Happy other ppl are seeing this as well. Just need to overcome our bigs.
Having lots of bad bigs doesn't make us deep there. Legitimately deep in the backcourt, but I wouldn't say we are deep as a whole.
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Not sure what bad things others have seen from our bigs. Mawien only plays 4 minutes last night due to foul trouble and Sallah came in and went for 11 points and 9 rebounds in 20 minutes. Showed a nice mid range jump shot. Stockard with 4 points and 4 rebounds in 10 minutes. Can't judge them good or bad til we see them against high level competition but we already know Sallah had 13 rebounds against ISU last year.
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Not sure what bad things others have seen from our bigs. Mawien only plays 4 minutes last night due to foul trouble and Sallah came in and went for 11 points and 9 rebounds in 20 minutes. Showed a nice mid range jump shot. Stockard with 4 points and 4 rebounds in 10 minutes. Can't judge them good or bad til we see them against high level competition but we already know Sallah had 13 rebounds against ISU last year.
I need to see the bigs show something against legitimate competition. We'll know more after the Thanksgiving tournament with 2 decent games.
It looks like Wade and Sneed are poised to take a big step this year, but I'm not sure Brown and Stokes are going to make a big jump. Diarra and Wainright look like guys that can help on the perimeter, but we probably need one to be really good. We can live without a really dominant big if everyone else really steps up, but that's yet to be seen. Mawein and Sallah are going to have some growing pains at this level.
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Not sure what bad things others have seen from our bigs. Mawien only plays 4 minutes last night due to foul trouble and Sallah came in and went for 11 points and 9 rebounds in 20 minutes. Showed a nice mid range jump shot. Stockard with 4 points and 4 rebounds in 10 minutes. Can't judge them good or bad til we see them against high level competition but we already know Sallah had 13 rebounds against ISU last year.
I need to see the bigs show something against legitimate competition. We'll know more after the Thanksgiving tournament with 2 decent games.
It looks like Wade and Sneed are poised to take a big step this year, but I'm not sure Brown and Stokes are going to make a big jump. Diarra and Wainright look like guys that can help on the perimeter, but we probably need one to be really good. We can live without a really dominant big if everyone else really steps up, but that's yet to be seen. Mawein and Sallah are going to have some growing pains at this level.
Playing next to Dean at the 5 is really easy when he is attacking. I don't think the competition is a big factor for Sallah or Mawien, it isn't like they are taking their guys. Question will be what happens when Dean becomes the focal point of the defense.
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Playing next to Dean at the 5 is really easy when he is attacking. I don't think the competition is a big factor for Sallah or Mawien, it isn't like they are taking their guys. Question will be what happens when Dean becomes the focal point of the defense.
That's fair for the bigs. My biggest concern is their ability to rebound against physical bigs. They don't have to be feature players, but they have to give us something.
IMO if/when Wade becomes the focal point, that's where Kam and Brown must step up and why a 1-8 night against a poor defensive team from Kam concerns me. Also, Sneed can help with that; Wade and Sneed can be a pretty solid 1-2 scoring punch for the Cats. The problem with that is that neither Barry or Kam are shy about shooting the ball.
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I told you this team was deep. Happy other ppl are seeing this as well. Just need to overcome our bigs.
Having lots of bad bigs doesn't make us deep there. Legitimately deep in the backcourt, but I wouldn't say we are deep as a whole.
We can role out a Villanova lite team this year and make the tourney. I think Wade and Sneed can get us by.
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Not sure what bad things others have seen from our bigs. Mawien only plays 4 minutes last night due to foul trouble and Sallah came in and went for 11 points and 9 rebounds in 20 minutes. Showed a nice mid range jump shot. Stockard with 4 points and 4 rebounds in 10 minutes. Can't judge them good or bad til we see them against high level competition but we already know Sallah had 13 rebounds against ISU last year.
I need to see the bigs show something against legitimate competition. We'll know more after the Thanksgiving tournament with 2 decent games.
It looks like Wade and Sneed are poised to take a big step this year, but I'm not sure Brown and Stokes are going to make a big jump. Diarra and Wainright look like guys that can help on the perimeter, but we probably need one to be really good. We can live without a really dominant big if everyone else really steps up, but that's yet to be seen. Mawein and Sallah are going to have some growing pains at this level.
Playing next to Dean at the 5 is really easy when he is attacking. I don't think the competition is a big factor for Sallah or Mawien, it isn't like they are taking their guys. Question will be what happens when Dean becomes the focal point of the defense.
It seemed like in the American game, Wade had better chemistry with Mawein than with Sallah. When they converged on Claws he made good passes to Mawein for dinkers. Mawein is very mobile. I was at a meeting last night so I missed the game. I read Claws was not aggressive. Was this due to not being comfortable with Sallah who played most of the minutes? Just think about what happened last year when DJamer got into foul trouble. Think what kind of team we would have without Mawein and Sallah.
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This time of year, our bigs should be absolutely dominating smaller and less skilled players. As FAN said, we won't know anything until the Vegas tournament. I have a hard time believing this team will replace Wes and DJamer's production for what was the bubbliest of tournament bids.
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Dean and Sneed have been making up for that. Our rebounding has been fine. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/kansas-state/2018.html
87 vs 51 seems like domination to me so far. :dunno:
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Dean and Sneed have been making up for that. Our rebounding has been fine. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/kansas-state/2018.html
87 vs 51 seems like domination to me so far. :dunno:
They're doing fine. I'm just saying that it doesn't mean much yet. The biggest gap between P5 teams and others is usually skill and size of the post players. Bennett and Colon had plenty of good games against this level of competition so I'm not terribly excited yet.
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To be fair, I do constantly have to remind myself that teams with dominant bigs are far and few between anymore in college basketball. KU looks to have their usual studs, but I'm not sure anyone else in the league does.
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To be fair, I do constantly have to remind myself that teams with dominant bigs are far and few between anymore in college basketball. KU looks to have their usual studs, but I'm not sure anyone else in the league does.
Agreed. I just always feel like there are big gaps in between talent levels of bigs. Like when HenRob dominated LaSalle, you could see the differences but against Big 12 competition, he was very average. Occasionally you get an Oden or Cousins but a lot of times the NBA drafts anybody with size and potential young enough that they haven't developed early enough to effect college much (i.e. Deandre Jordan). KU does well getting four year guys that aren't quite good enough to get the lottery spot and leave early.
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Not sure what bad things others have seen from our bigs. Mawien only plays 4 minutes last night due to foul trouble and Sallah came in and went for 11 points and 9 rebounds in 20 minutes. Showed a nice mid range jump shot. Stockard with 4 points and 4 rebounds in 10 minutes. Can't judge them good or bad til we see them against high level competition but we already know Sallah had 13 rebounds against ISU last year.
I need to see the bigs show something against legitimate competition. We'll know more after the Thanksgiving tournament with 2 decent games.
It looks like Wade and Sneed are poised to take a big step this year, but I'm not sure Brown and Stokes are going to make a big jump. Diarra and Wainright look like guys that can help on the perimeter, but we probably need one to be really good. We can live without a really dominant big if everyone else really steps up, but that's yet to be seen. Mawein and Sallah are going to have some growing pains at this level.
Playing next to Dean at the 5 is really easy when he is attacking. I don't think the competition is a big factor for Sallah or Mawien, it isn't like they are taking their guys. Question will be what happens when Dean becomes the focal point of the defense.
It seemed like in the American game, Wade had better chemistry with Mawein than with Sallah. When they converged on Claws he made good passes to Mawein for dinkers. Mawein is very mobile. I was at a meeting last night so I missed the game. I read Claws was not aggressive. Was this due to not being comfortable with Sallah who played most of the minutes? Just think about what happened last year when DJamer got into foul trouble. Think what kind of team we would have without Mawein and Sallah.
No, the issue was Wade got quick double teams early in the game and turned it over a couple of times. Took him a little time to find the best way to attack them. Sallah got his points mostly with follows off of missed lay ups by the guards. He also showed the ability to hit a jump shot from the free throw line off a feed from Wade. Going to be fun and interesting during the non con to see which of these guys has the most game and fits in best with the other players on the floow.
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In the upcoming game with the N AZ Lumberjacks, a poor team, what should we try to accomplish and what do we do to prepare for the Vegas tournament?
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In the upcoming game with the N AZ Lumberjacks, a poor team, what should we try to accomplish and what do we do to prepare for the Vegas tournament?
Feed Mawien and Sallah to get them comfortable in the paint, we know that X can turn it on when needed and we need to worry about shot selection from our guards. Also free throws will be the difference maker when it comes to hopefully close games in vegas.
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:love:
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For awhile Oscar had Mawien playing power forward and Sallah as post. What do you think of starting these 2, and bringing Wade off the bench?
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For awhile Oscar had Mawien playing power forward and Sallah as post. What do you think of starting these 2, and bringing Wade off the bench?
Why would you bench one of your top 3 players?
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We have 4 players averaging double digit points per game. Is this good? If so why? How many times has a player scored 20+ in a game?