There ya go WillieWatanabe :kstatriot:
There ya go WillieWatanabe :kstatriot:
Anyone know how Jake's hand is?
I'mNOTgiving up
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
I'mNOTgiving up
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQywmNxCd8E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARpzavb7PQk&feature=related
:love:
I think we are a firm 5 seed right now. Currently #17 in RPI, #6 in RPI SOS, Won 7 of 8 and 5 in a row, two huge quality wins, no bad losses. Kenpom still has us at 32 which is a bit low. Also, the committee seems to weigh the end of the season a bit more heavily than the whole body of work. They won't completely look the other way but I think the recent play will erase some of the early season negatives.
The Cats have a Golden opportunity to play their way into a 4 or even a 3 seed. It would take beating KU again for a 4, and probably winning the Phillips66 for the 3 (UT or no UT)
I think we are a firm 5 seed right now. Currently #17 in RPI, #6 in RPI SOS, Won 7 of 8 and 5 in a row, two huge quality wins, no bad losses. Kenpom still has us at 32 which is a bit low. Also, the committee seems to weigh the end of the season a bit more heavily than the whole body of work. They won't completely look the other way but I think the recent play will erase some of the early season negatives.
The Cats have a Golden opportunity to play their way into a 4 or even a 3 seed. It would take beating KU again for a 4, and probably winning the Phillips66 for the 3 (UT or no UT)
I guess the circumstances mitigate OSU being a bad loss and if Colorado finishes at .500 or better maybe that won't be a bad loss but I think you are painting too rosy a picture here.
I'd say we're a firm 6 right now. 5 might be a bit much yet.
New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
For some reason a pop-up type thing is blocking part of our region on my phone. Who is the two in our region?
New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
For some reason a pop-up type thing is blocking part of our region on my phone. Who is the two in our region?
New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
For some reason a pop-up type thing is blocking part of our region on my phone. Who is the two in our region?
Purdue :ohno:
New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
Great venue to showcase the team to D.C Assault kids :dubious:New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
not taking an running
Great venue to showcase the team to D.C Assault kids :dubious:New CBS one today
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
not taking an running
Do NOT want. Buuut, :ck: could exact his pound of flesh from UCONN... that would be fun.
Lunardi hasn't updated his Bracketology yet, but on his blog he just posted his S-curve/Bracket math post. He has us as the worst 6 seed right now, just ahead of aTm, G Mason, and Temple. Just behind Nova, WVU, and Xavier.
LAST UPDATED: 02/28/11 1:00 AM ET | Automatic bids are in CAPS.
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Dayton
Knoxville, Tenn.
1TENNESSEE
16SOUTHERN
8HOUSTON
9St. John's
Salt Lake City
5GREEN BAY
12BYU
4Florida State
13NORTHERN IOWA
Charlottesville
6North Carolina
11LSU
3Notre Dame
14LIBERTY
Albuquerque
7Temple
10Syracuse
2Texas A&M
15MCNEESE STATE
Spokane
Stanford, Calif
1STANFORD
16CAL POLY
8Texas Tech
9MARIST
Columbus, Ohio
5Ohio State
12Middle Tennessee
4Georgetown
13TOLEDO
University Park
6Penn State
11Duquesne
3DePaul
14ST. FRANCIS (PA.)
Shreveport, La.
7Iowa State
10LOUISIANA TECH
2Miami
15TENNESSEE TECH
Philadelphia
Storrs, Conn.
1CONNECTICUT
16UMBC
8Michigan
9Arizona State
Auburn, Ala.
5Oklahoma
12UALR
4Kentucky
13APPALACHIAN STATE
Wichita, Kan.
6Marquette
11Texas
3MICHIGAN STATE
14EAST TENNESSEE ST.
Durham, N.C.
7Louisville
10Vanderbilt
2DUKE
15HAMPTON
Dallas
Waco, Texas
1BAYLOR
16NORTHERN COLORADO
8Georgia
9West Virginia
College Park
5Iowa
12JAMES MADISON
4Maryland
13PRINCETON
Spokane, Wash.
6Georgia Tech
11GONZAGA
3UCLA
14ORAL ROBERTS
Cincinnati, Ohio
7Purdue
10Rutgers
2XAVIER
15NAVY
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Dayton
Knoxville, Tenn.
1TENNESSEE
16SOUTHERN
8HOUSTON
9St. John's
Salt Lake City
5GREEN BAY
12BYU
4Florida State
13NORTHERN IOWA
Charlottesville
6North Carolina
11LSU
3Notre Dame
14LIBERTY
Albuquerque
7Temple
10Syracuse
2Texas A&M
15MCNEESE STATE
Spokane
Stanford, Calif
1STANFORD
16CAL POLY
8Texas Tech
9MARIST
Columbus, Ohio
5Ohio State
12Middle Tennessee
4Georgetown
13TOLEDO
University Park
6Penn State
11Duquesne
3DePaul
14ST. FRANCIS (PA.)
Shreveport, La.
7Iowa State
10LOUISIANA TECH
2Miami
15TENNESSEE TECH
Philadelphia
Storrs, Conn.
1CONNECTICUT
16UMBC
8Michigan
9Arizona State
Auburn, Ala.
5Oklahoma
12UALR
4Kentucky
13APPALACHIAN STATE
Wichita, Kan.
6Marquette
11Texas
3MICHIGAN STATE
14EAST TENNESSEE ST.
Durham, N.C.
7Louisville
10Vanderbilt
2DUKE
15HAMPTON
Dallas
Waco, Texas
1BAYLOR
16NORTHERN COLORADO
8Georgia
9West Virginia
College Park
5Iowa
12JAMES MADISON
4Maryland
13PRINCETON
Spokane, Wash.
6Georgia Tech
11GONZAGA
3UCLA
14ORAL ROBERTS
Cincinnati, Ohio
7Purdue
10Rutgers
2XAVIER
15NAVY
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/kansas-state-among-most-dangerous-ncaa-tournament-teams-030111 (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/kansas-state-among-most-dangerous-ncaa-tournament-teams-030111)
The photo and the caption, love it :doom:
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/kansas-state-among-most-dangerous-ncaa-tournament-teams-030111 (http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/kansas-state-among-most-dangerous-ncaa-tournament-teams-030111)
The photo and the caption, love it :doom:
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While this doesn't give us brackets, it does well to track seeding from a boatload of websites.
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm
While this doesn't give us brackets, it does well to track seeding from a boatload of websites.
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm
This website is cac, anyone predicting brackets who isn't named Lunardi is wasting everyone's time.
While this doesn't give us brackets, it does well to track seeding from a boatload of websites.
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm
This website is cac, anyone predicting brackets who isn't named Lunardi is wasting everyone's time.
While this doesn't give us brackets, it does well to track seeding from a boatload of websites.
http://bracketproject.50webs.com/matrix.htm
This website is cac, anyone predicting brackets who isn't named Lunardi is wasting everyone's time.
Lunardi is decent. http://bracketproject.50webs.com/rankings.html
NIT Bracket from the Bracket Predictor:
1. Clemson
8. Rhode Island
4. Northwestern
5. Miami (FL)
2. Boston College
7. USC
3. Maryland
6. Wichita State
1. California
8. UTEP
4. VCU
5. Dayton
2. Butler
7. South Carolina
3. Harvard
6. Mississippi
1. Washington State
8. Rutgers
4. Drexel
5. Baylor
2. Marshall
7. Colorado State
3. James Madison
6. Valparasio
1. Southern Miss
8. Hofstra
4. Nebraska
5. Richmond
2. UCF
7. N.C. State
3. Oklahoma State
6. Arkansas
Read more: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-college-basketball/2011/03/nit-bracketology---return-of-the-bracket-predictor.html#ixzz1FTBoKkcD
NIT Bracket from the Bracket Predictor:
1. Clemson
8. Rhode Island
4. Northwestern
5. Miami (FL)
2. Boston College
7. USC
3. Maryland
6. Wichita State
1. California
8. UTEP
4. VCU
5. Dayton
2. Butler
7. South Carolina
3. Harvard
6. Mississippi
1. Washington State
8. Rutgers
4. Drexel
5. Baylor
2. Marshall
7. Colorado State
3. James Madison
6. Valparasio
1. Southern Miss
8. Hofstra
4. Nebraska
5. Richmond
2. UCF
7. N.C. State
3. Oklahoma State
6. Arkansas
Read more: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-college-basketball/2011/03/nit-bracketology---return-of-the-bracket-predictor.html#ixzz1FTBoKkcD
Paying attention to this is probably not a good way to score a high quality of life index but these seeds are whack. Baylor and Richmond have been living on the last four in/last four out line in the NCAA for the last two months and they are five seeds in the NIT? Meanwhile California who has not even appeared in a next four out part of anyone's bracket all year is a one seed?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
If we play in Seattle, I'm going. Not joking.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
6 seed/west -Georgia-Syracuse-BYU-Duke
It doesn't get more amazing than that fellas
:bracketmouse:
Careful, Bucknell is in that region... :ohno:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Oh man, absolutely :excited: over the Joe Lunardi bracket. Dook rematch, Jimmer and Pinstripe Bowl Pt2. Yes please.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
I don't feel like he's confident enough.http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a effing seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
If I were going to predict beating KU in the semifinals, I think I would just go ahead and predict winning the whole damn thing.
I'm still waiting on seeding because like it's been said...this league is B-A-N-A-N-A-S!!!! :pbj: (this is called pbj and I've never understood why)
I'm still waiting on seeding because like it's been said...this league is B-A-N-A-N-A-S!!!! :pbj: (this is called pbj and I've never understood why)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ZAGBL6UBA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ZAGBL6UBA)
I think he meant KSU, thanks for the kiss on the cheek followed by the slap on the face Digger!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
Depend upon how the seeding pans out. I haven't seen any reason to doubt our ability to make it there. Isn't that what we base our beliefs upon? That and purple tinted glasses with beards attached.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
Depend upon how the seeding pans out. I haven't seen any reason to doubt our ability to make it there. Isn't that what we base our beliefs upon? That and purple tinted glasses with beards attached.
You still think we'll make it that far? We'll play KU in the quarterfinals if we win.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
Depend upon how the seeding pans out. I haven't seen any reason to doubt our ability to make it there. Isn't that what we base our beliefs upon? That and purple tinted glasses with beards attached.
You still think we'll make it that far? We'll play KU in the quarterfinals if we win.
semi
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Barring a total collapse, I be pissed with a rough ridin' seven seed. I think we win at least 3 more games and grab a 5.
You sound pretty confident about reaching the championship of the Phillips 66.
Depend upon how the seeding pans out. I haven't seen any reason to doubt our ability to make it there. Isn't that what we base our beliefs upon? That and purple tinted glasses with beards attached.
You still think we'll make it that far? We'll play KU in the quarterfinals if we win.
I think he meant KSU, thanks for the kiss on the cheek followed by the slap on the face Digger!
no, he meant KU. He was referring to something else. But you correct about the 6 seed part.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
updated, 6 v. play in winner (Marquette/Clemson/MI State/VT) to then face Purdue.....do not take/stand with arms crossed :dubious:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
updated, 6 v. play in winner (Marquette/Clemson/MI State/VT) to then face Purdue.....do not take/stand with arms crossed :dubious:
why would a play in winner have an 11 seed? that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
my god, give it to me now.
http://everydayismarch.wordpress.com/
You guys are nuts. Florida has been playing really well lately, they are probably hotter than us. I want no part of them in the first weekend.
my god, give it to me now.
http://everydayismarch.wordpress.com/
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
Would love this one.
Also, MU wouldn't make it out of the first round. Even if they did, OSU(the real one) would kill them.
also MU out :surprised:
also MU out :surprised:
I imagine the First Four out is Missouri St.
we should trade places with UConn.
Nice sig _FAN. You got that in a high enough rez to use as wallpaper?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
Thanks bro, you're the best.Nice sig _FAN. You got that in a high enough rez to use as wallpaper?
http://bit.ly/eF42sm
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Really like this one if we could get by 'Cuse
Is it pretty "for sure" that we'll be in the western region? Most brackets I see have us there, but I thought for a 6 seed the region was more arbitrary (after giving locales to 1 seeds and such). Looking at plane tickets.
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
Really... REALLY... want to see the Catz in Denver. :pray:
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
:bracketmouse:
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
:bracketmouse::bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse:
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke (http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2011/3/7/2032959/bracketology-2011-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-notre-dame-duke)
:dunno:
:bracketmouse::bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse:
it's like their moonwalking.....
we should trade places with UConn.
This.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Take off little mouse! :bracketmouse:
Lunardi now has us as a 5 seed: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology Not sure how I feel about playing St John's, they seem to show up to big games.
Lunardi now has us as a 5 seed: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology Not sure how I feel about playing St John's, they seem to show up to big games.
Lunardi now has us as a 5 seed: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology Not sure how I feel about playing St John's, they seem to show up to big games.
the ones ive seen lately have all matched us up with a Big East team 2nd rd. Pick your poison.
Looking better and better to get on the 4 line... :bracketmouse:
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Looking better and better to get on the 4 line... :bracketmouse:
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Best yet. Would blow up Kentucky and ND, imo.
So what do you guys think? 6 or 7 seed? :dunno:
6th seed would ensure we wouldn't have to play a 1 seed until the Elite 8. If we made the Elite 8 I would be all smiles and wouldn't care who the eff we played.
I can partially forget todays game if I see us on a 6 line sunday evening. Partially.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
TAKE! RUN! :bracketmouse:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
TAKE! RUN! :bracketmouse:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
TAKE! RUN! :bracketmouse:
I would much rather have WVU's spot in that bracket. Pitt, BYU, and UF as the 1,2,3 would be great.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
TAKE! RUN! :bracketmouse:
I would much rather have WVU's spot in that bracket. Pitt, BYU, and UF as the 1,2,3 would be great.
Is this talking about the most current one or the one from earlier today (its updated twice today) I like the first March 11 bracket MUCH more than the second.
don't want usc, if they make it in. go azcats.
Source told FOXSports.com USC has suspended Kevin O'neill for PAC-10 tourney. Bob Cantu will take over.
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/NCAA-tournament-bracket-projections-2011
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/NCAA-tournament-bracket-projections-2011:bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse: :bracketmouse:
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/NCAA-tournament-bracket-projections-2011
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Kemba in the second round :runaway:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Kemba in the second round :runaway:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Kemba in the second round :runaway:
could care less who the 3 seed is. all 3s are very good, but vulnerable. just want a soft 11 seed. and not a play in team.
10 Marquette
10 Illinois
10 Gonzaga
10 Michigan
11 Butler
11 Michigan State
11 Richmond
11 Georgia
12 Colorado
12 Memphis
12 St. Mary's
12 Clemson
12 Virginia Tech
12 Alabama
Quote10 Marquette
10 Illinois
10 Gonzaga
10 Michigan
11 Butler
11 Michigan State
11 Richmond
11 Georgia
12 Colorado
12 Memphis
12 St. Mary's
12 Clemson
12 Virginia Tech
12 Alabama
from fan's list of possibles, i like: richmond, georgia, st mary's & va tech.. haven't seen memphis enough to opine, but i think that'd be decent too. especially would not like: marquette, michigan state & clemson.
I don't want to play any really hard teams. Any way we can play just easy teams until at least the Final 4?
I don't want to play any really hard teams. Any way we can play just easy teams until at least the Final 4?
like kansas '08 in bill self's only final 4?
:dunno:
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The Newest Jerry Palm Bracket...DO NOT WANT!
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Let's go Cats! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzBAqzGWM3A&feature=related):bball:
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KU had better hope they don't have to play Utah State in the second round.
The Newest Jerry Palm Bracket...DO NOT WANT!
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SDSU as a 1 seed is just one example.
all these bracket people seem to want to shove someone else other than duke into the last 1 seed. it has to be duke, imo. gmafb with this notre dame crap.
KU had better hope they don't have to play Utah State in the second round.
i'd be happy with usu as kstate's 11. i can't imagine how happy ku should be to get them as an 8/9.
Lunardi clown has us as a 6 vs the Izzos. BYU and Duke in our bracket too :horrorsurprise:.
Lunardi clown has us as a 6 vs the Izzos. BYU and Duke in our bracket too :horrorsurprise:.
Gottlieb: "KSU is a team I would not want as a 6 seed in my bracket"
Just seeing the final brackets coming in I'd say its about 55% 6 seed, 45% 7 seed for the Cats. Don't be surprise if we don't get a 7 seed.
I don't want Mich St. Izzo is you know...pretty good in the tournament.
Also, CU not making it is a joke. they got screwed
KUTheShiver Matt Scott
K-State is the 19th ranked team in the AP poll - Utah State is 23 - Coaches poll - Utah State is 17 & KSU is 23 - it's the 12 vs 5 game
dumbstick obsessing over as as usual but makes a great point about how mumped we areQuoteKUTheShiver Matt Scott
K-State is the 19th ranked team in the AP poll - Utah State is 23 - Coaches poll - Utah State is 17 & KSU is 23 - it's the 12 vs 5 game
How can UConn and Cincy play in the 2nd round? I thought teams from the same conference couldn't play until the Sweet 16.
11 teams, waddaya gonna do
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#7 seed.
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#7 seed.
do.not.want
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I feel like Frank mentally destroyed our fanbase over here at goEMAW. We're all hanging on to his teet. Acting like he's the only one who can be successful here. Guy's, be mentally free. Brucer's got this. Relax, it's August. :dance: <----------- (Us in March)
I feel like Frank mentally destroyed our fanbase over here at goEMAW. We're all hanging on to his teet. Acting like he's the only one who can be successful here. Guy's, be mentally free. Brucer's got this. Relax, it's August. :dance: <----------- (Us in March)
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update may 15, 2013
9th seed in MidWest!! :D
Does this mean we lose the first round again?
:excited: :drool: :driving: :love: :)
Wow this is exciting!!!!
:dance:
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update may 15, 2013
9th seed in MidWest!! :D
:lol: what am idiot. Joey Brackets not ksu101
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update may 15, 2013
9th seed in MidWest!! :D
:lol: what am idiot. Joey Brackets not ksu101
And KU at a 2. :facepalm:
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Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
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Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
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Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
11 is a slap in the face. :shakesfist:
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Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
11 is a slap in the face. :shakesfist:
KU as a 4 is also ridic
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Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
11 is a slap in the face. :shakesfist:
KU as a 4 is also ridic
Not really.
Would take 11 as long as Wisconsin isn't the 3
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Back in it! Would take! :ksu:
11 is a slap in the face. :shakesfist:
KU as a 4 is also ridic
If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
They did that last year
If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
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would rough ridin' take.If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
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If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
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we would make it to the E8 in that bracket.
If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
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we would make it to the E8 in that bracket.
Here's my obligatory post reminding you all that we have no size and no shooters. Wichita State and those athletic guards who play defense is an absolute matchup nightmare for us. We've played 2 teams this season who are interested in playing defense and they both completely embarrassed us.
Here's my obligatory post reminding you all that we have no size and no shooters. Wichita State and those athletic guards who play defense is an absolute matchup nightmare for us. We've played 2 teams this season who are interested in playing defense and they both completely embarrassed us.
mid major thoHere's my obligatory post reminding you all that we have no size and no shooters. Wichita State and those athletic guards who play defense is an absolute matchup nightmare for us. We've played 2 teams this season who are interested in playing defense and they both completely embarrassed us.If the committee has any sense of humor they'll match up either K-State or KU with Wichita State, even it isn't until the S16.
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we would make it to the E8 in that bracket.
Up to a 9... Would rather be a 10.
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10 seed is where I would have us right now.
The top 4 teams in the Big 12 should be in the 2-4 seed range like CBS has it.
6 seed may be a little high for OU. Good win vs Clonies but they don't have a signature win in the non con
Baylor's lack of fundamental basketball neutralizes any advantage of length. Hard to mark plays when you are never in the right spot.Here's my obligatory post reminding you all that we have no size and no shooters. Wichita State and those athletic guards who play defense is an absolute matchup nightmare for us. We've played 2 teams this season who are interested in playing defense and they both completely embarrassed us.
I think if we played Georgetown again we could compete, I think this team is much better than we played that day.
I want no part of a team like KU though. KU, BU, and UT are the worst match-ups for us in this league because they have so much length. If we can win 2 games from those 6 games I'll be pretty pleased.
I haven't watched enough WSU to know, they aren't a huge team though. Their defense would be tough.
Up to a 9... Would rather be a 10.
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That would be the region of death.
is there a team in that west bracket that we won't have played at least once this year?
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http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/ (http://dailybracket.wordpress.com/)Would take, but we'd still lose second round to Oregon
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February 21st Bracket
Maybe it's the future :crossfingers: :dunno:
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6 seed. Still an 8 seed in CBS' bracket.
Our seed is totally dependent on Wisconsin. If they get the 1 seed, we get the 8-9, but if they fall to a 2 then we're a lock for a 7 seed.
Neither are you.Our seed is totally dependent on Wisconsin. If they get the 1 seed, we get the 8-9, but if they fall to a 2 then we're a lock for a 7 seed.
I think by the time everything is over with Wisconsin will be a 3-4 seed. They aren't as good as everyone thinks.
Neither are you.Our seed is totally dependent on Wisconsin. If they get the 1 seed, we get the 8-9, but if they fall to a 2 then we're a lock for a 7 seed.
I think by the time everything is over with Wisconsin will be a 3-4 seed. They aren't as good as everyone thinks.
Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
I was in kindergarten or something when that happened :lol:Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
We've done it, thanks. And not a shared one either...
Big 12 > any other conference. Pretty much all of our teams minus TTech and TCU are good enough to beat anyone in the league. Tech even beat Baylor, but now again who hasn't this year?
I was in kindergarten or something when that happened :lol:Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
We've done it, thanks. And not a shared one either...
Yep, really sucks that the 'cats have a conference title in the past year. You got me, again.I was in kindergarten or something when that happened :lol:Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
We've done it, thanks. And not a shared one either...
And it's only happened once for you :ROFL:
Yep, really sucks that the 'cats have a conference title in the past year. You got me, again.I was in kindergarten or something when that happened :lol:Try a conference championship and then get back to me.Is that your measuring stick? I mean, seriously?
No that should be easy :driving:
We've done it, thanks. And not a shared one either...
And it's only happened once for you :ROFL:
How many ships has Hoiball gotten you? Cause Bruceketball is 1 for 1 so far.
Timclone just timming the crap out of this thread. Only a true tim would show up and talk crap with his program on a three game losing streak and rumors swirling that his coach hates the school and wants to leave immediately and is ashamed to have played there. Sad that he probably can't leave now that they're terrible. Gotta strike while that iron is luke warm. The bloom is off the hoi.
Timclone just timming the crap out of this thread. Only a true tim would show up and talk crap with his program on a three game losing streak and rumors swirling that his coach hates the school and wants to leave immediately and is ashamed to have played there. Sad that he probably can't leave now that they're terrible. Gotta strike while that iron is luke warm. The bloom is off the hoi.I bet this guy has never even attended ISU. The similarities are endless :surprised:
They're both up to 6 figures......On the penny slots.Timclone just timming the crap out of this thread. Only a true tim would show up and talk crap with his program on a three game losing streak and rumors swirling that his coach hates the school and wants to leave immediately and is ashamed to have played there. Sad that he probably can't leave now that they're terrible. Gotta strike while that iron is luke warm. The bloom is off the hoi.I bet this guy has never even attended ISU. The similarities are endless :surprised:
Graduated a while ago actually. :whistle1:Timclone just timming the crap out of this thread. Only a true tim would show up and talk crap with his program on a three game losing streak and rumors swirling that his coach hates the school and wants to leave immediately and is ashamed to have played there. Sad that he probably can't leave now that they're terrible. Gotta strike while that iron is luke warm. The bloom is off the hoi.I bet this guy has never even attended ISU. The similarities are endless :surprised:
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Do not want.
Man ku got up to that 1 line in a friggin' hurryThe new Johnny Manziel is Joel Embiid. Of course they did!
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Do not want.
nope, don't want
Syracuse would be a terrible match-up. I'm glad this is just some dumb January bracket.
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Do not want.
nope, don't want
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Do not want.
nope, don't want
Oh man, that south would get so much play in the local media. KU the 1 with Wichita St the 2. Creighton in there, Wichita St. 1st game with the team that opened up the season knocking off KState, then a possible 2nd round rematch with Gonzaga
:runaway:
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Do not want.
nope, don't want
Oh man, that south would get so much play in the local media. KU the 1 with Wichita St the 2. Creighton in there, Wichita St. 1st game with the team that opened up the season knocking off KState, then a possible 2nd round rematch with Gonzaga
:runaway:
I'd love to be a 7/10 going against Wichita in round 2 (3, whatever it is). If we beat them we'd be like "Yeah punk, you dorks are so small time" and if they beat us we'd be like "Meh, football school"
What makes any of you think we would even make it out of the first round to see one's or two's. #oscarhttp://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Do not want.
nope, don't want
Oh man, that south would get so much play in the local media. KU the 1 with Wichita St the 2. Creighton in there, Wichita St. 1st game with the team that opened up the season knocking off KState, then a possible 2nd round rematch with Gonzaga
:runaway:
I'd love to be a 7/10 going against Wichita in round 2 (3, whatever it is). If we beat them we'd be like "Yeah punk, you dorks are so small time" and if they beat us we'd be like "Meh, football school"
I want off the 8/9 line bad this year. All of the current 1's would be in us balls deep halfway through the first half, we might stand a chance against some of the 2s
wichita state (i hate them) goes undefeay, needs to be a 1 seed. otherwise just throw the whole system on trial because it will be exposed as a fraud and also as a joke to all who pay heed and enter it. the magic they use to put these "brackets" (and i use that "term" loosely) is a joke and should be investigated by the federal government at a senate judiciary hearing. one team is undefeated. one team was bent over and embarrassed on national and in some cases international (depending on your broadcast provider plan) television. who can say the right thing for the committee? no one but the committee. honestly they don't need JOE LUNARDI (http://www.sju.edu/int/academics/pls/images/Joe%20Picture.JPG) to pull these mock brackets up each week trying to sway minds in the court of public opinion. do they? if you answered yes, then explain how they could need it.
there is a lot of math and a lot of magic, which one do you believe in? sigmund freud or lance burton? the true choice is up to you but just remember that what you post stays on the internet forever. wabash cats.
Syracuse would be a terrible match-up. I'm glad this is just some dumb January bracket.
wichita state (i hate them) goes undefeay, needs to be a 1 seed. otherwise just throw the whole system on trial because it will be exposed as a fraud and also as a joke to all who pay heed and enter it. the magic they use to put these "brackets" (and i use that "term" loosely) is a joke and should be investigated by the federal government at a senate judiciary hearing. one team is undefeated. one team was bent over and embarrassed on national and in some cases international (depending on your broadcast provider plan) television. who can say the right thing for the committee? no one but the committee. honestly they don't need JOE LUNARDI (http://www.sju.edu/int/academics/pls/images/Joe%20Picture.JPG) to pull these mock brackets up each week trying to sway minds in the court of public opinion. do they? if you answered yes, then explain how they could need it.
there is a lot of math and a lot of magic, which one do you believe in? sigmund freud or lance burton? the true choice is up to you but just remember that what you post stays on the internet forever. wabash cats.
The Druids used to think that a solar eclipse was magic. Throughout history, communities cloaked in ignorance have ascribed "magic" to things that, as it turns it, they just didn't understand. Is that what's going on here?
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Atleast Milwaukee flights are cheap. :flush:
Yup. $130 round trip.http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Atleast Milwaukee flights are cheap. :flush:
Southwest out of Kansas City is easy.
Yup. $130 round trip.http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Atleast Milwaukee flights are cheap. :flush:
Southwest out of Kansas City is easy.
Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
That bracket looked so great at first, and then I realized they have Iowa St. at the 2 seed so I lost any and all hope of it being close to accurate.
Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Am I right in thinking that a school cannot play an NCAA tourney game in their own gym? (which could be completely wrong). This is in reference to SDSU being slated in Spokane as a 2 seed while San Diego is a round of 64 and 32 site.
Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Am I right in thinking that a school cannot play an NCAA tourney game in their own gym? (which could be completely wrong). This is in reference to SDSU being slated in Spokane as a 2 seed while San Diego is a round of 64 and 32 site.
Correct. It's kind of interesting that SDSU is hosting this year since their arena is roughly the size of Bramlage.
From my experience at first round events (Oklahoma City, Pittsburgh, KC, Omaha, etc.), they're hard as eff to fill anyways. Oklahoma City might have been the only one where I felt like the whole arena was filled (thx to K-State & KU). Kind of irrelevant.Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Am I right in thinking that a school cannot play an NCAA tourney game in their own gym? (which could be completely wrong). This is in reference to SDSU being slated in Spokane as a 2 seed while San Diego is a round of 64 and 32 site.
Correct. It's kind of interesting that SDSU is hosting this year since their arena is roughly the size of Bramlage.
That bracket looked so great at first, and then I realized they have Iowa St. at the 2 seed so I lost any and all hope of it being close to accurate.
If the bracket is made based on where the author thinks a team will finish (and now where they are right now) then I'm fine with it. I don't agree with the projection for ISU, but if they go 14-4 in the league or something then they might be there.
From my experience at first round events (Oklahoma City, Pittsburgh, KC, Omaha, etc.), they're hard as eff to fill anyways. Oklahoma City might have been the only one where I felt like the whole arena was filled (thx to K-State & KU). Kind of irrelevant.Oh, hey Wisconsin! http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Am I right in thinking that a school cannot play an NCAA tourney game in their own gym? (which could be completely wrong). This is in reference to SDSU being slated in Spokane as a 2 seed while San Diego is a round of 64 and 32 site.
Correct. It's kind of interesting that SDSU is hosting this year since their arena is roughly the size of Bramlage.
Yeah, I listed that. It was pretty filled for the K-state and KU games, but not so much for the others. Plus, KCis an the exception. It's always been a college bball town. Pitt was an effing ghost town and I could see San Diego being the same. I mean, look at the Chargers attendance. Tourney games are best in a city with interest for the sport.
Yeah, I should have specified away from this area.Yeah, I listed that. It was pretty filled for the K-state and KU games, but not so much for the others. Plus, KCis an the exception. It's always been a college bball town. Pitt was an effing ghost town and I could see San Diego being the same. I mean, look at the Chargers attendance. Tourney games are best in a city with interest for the sport.
Okay I was just questioning because you said OKC was the only one that felt filled
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LOL do not want to play Iowa as a #5 seed, not because they are good, but because that would suck for the state.
LOL do not want to play Iowa as a #5 seed, not because they are good, but because that would suck for the state.
Anyone else kinda 'meh' about Bracketology before March? I mean, is it just about talkin' hoops teams with your buds and flexing knowledge about your divers insights into teams across the country?
Anyone else kinda 'meh' about Bracketology before March? I mean, is it just about talkin' hoops teams with your buds and flexing knowledge about your divers insights into teams across the country?
Anyone else kinda 'meh' about Bracketology before March? I mean, is it just about talkin' hoops teams with your buds and flexing knowledge about your divers insights into teams across the country?
Does anyone know what the percentage arc of accuracy there is on bracketology as the season progresses? I feel like Lunardi is like a weatherman that is only allowed to predict the weather by standing on his front porch.
Makes sense. Still a nice little paycheck to solely put out brackets for a living.
Makes sense. Still a nice little paycheck to solely put out brackets for a living.
Mel Kiper and Brad Edwards concur.
Makes sense. Still a nice little paycheck to solely put out brackets for a living.
Mel Kiper and Brad Edwards concur.
Makes sense. Still a nice little paycheck to solely put out brackets for a living.
Mel Kiper and Brad Edwards concur.
Kiper at least sells his services to NFL teams...
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:bwpopcorn: scared shitless, but a great basketball bracket
:driving: to S16, then... :curse:
LOL do not want to play Iowa as a #5 seed, not because they are good, but because that would suck for the state.
Have you watched a big 10 game lately? Would take, if I were a flood aggie.
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Izzo would clownsuit the crap out of oscar
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Izzo would clownsuit the crap out of oscar
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Izzo would clownsuit the crap out of oscar
are you saying that a 2 seed would beat a 10 seed? or that some how oscar can't coach against izzo? because oscar is 8-8 against him. or was it just a shitty post?
But Baylor having a higher seed than us? I don't see that happening.
But Baylor having a higher seed than us? I don't see that happening.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketologytechnically 2nd round. :gocho:
1st round exit...
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketologytechnically 2nd round. :gocho:
1st round exit...
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1st round exit...
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1st round exit...
But they only beat LBSU by 6... :gocho:
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1st round exit...
But they only beat LBSU by 6... :gocho:
GWU beat VCU didn't they?
Out of complete ignorance. How good is Florida this year? :dunno:
say we beat UT and Baylor. What will it take for us to move all the way up to a 5 or 6 seed? That is the only way I see us making it passed the first two games.
Do you think that will lessen the pressure off of oscar?
Do you think that will lessen the pressure off of oscar?
What pressure?
Right now there is no real pressure on oscar. We'd have to lose the rest of our games for him to feel pressure this season.
I guess I meant from the fan base. I would venture to say his seat is pretty chilly for at least a few more years due to his hardware from last year.
say we beat UT and Baylor. What will it take for us to move all the way up to a 5 or 6 seed? That is the only way I see us making it passed the first two games.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketologycrap, yes, orlando! :party:
1st round exit...
I am surprised they don't have us matched up with Wichita State.
I guess I meant from the fan base. I would venture to say his seat is pretty chilly for at least a few more years due to his hardware from last year.
Here are my current projections of 6-9 seeds entering Monday. You can compare these teams with us. I think Ksu is in the 7-8 seed
area right now. FWIW, my 5 seeds are Texas, Iowa, Lville and Ucla. 10 seeds - SMU Cal Minn Colorado
.
I said this earlier in this thread, but UMass is so overrated. They should be an 11 or 12 seed.
After last night I would guess we'd be in the 6/7 range now?
After last night I would guess we'd be in the 6/7 range now?
Probably 7.
Any way if we run the table and make the BIGXII tournament championship game that we grab a 4 seed?
Any way if we run the table and make the BIGXII tournament championship game that we grab a 4 seed?
0% chance of us running the table.
Any way if we run the table and make the BIGXII tournament championship game that we grab a 4 seed?
After last night I would guess we'd be in the 6/7 range now?
If we limp to the finish and only win 2 more what will we get?
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Currently on the 7 line against 10 Stanford. Duke is the 2 in the 2-15 matchup. I haven't seen much of Duke this year outside of the Syracuse game so I don't know if that is 1 of the more favorable matchups we could hope for or not :dunno:
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Currently on the 7 line against 10 Stanford. Duke is the 2 in the 2-15 matchup. I haven't seen much of Duke this year outside of the Syracuse game so I don't know if that is 1 of the more favorable matchups we could hope for or not :dunno:
K-State is currently 6-3 vs the RPI Top 50 and 8-5 vs the Top 100. Last year the Cats were 6-8/8-8 by comparison. If we can manage to pick up 2-3 road wins the rest of the way getting to the 6 line is likely.http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Currently on the 7 line against 10 Stanford. Duke is the 2 in the 2-15 matchup. I haven't seen much of Duke this year outside of the Syracuse game so I don't know if that is 1 of the more favorable matchups we could hope for or not :dunno:
Duke has the most efficient offense in the country (ridiculously good at 1.28 ppp), but also the worst defense Coach K has had in the kenpom era (back to 03).
K-State is currently 6-3 vs the RPI Top 50 and 8-5 vs the Top 100. Last year the Cats were 6-8/8-8 by comparison. If we can manage to pick up 2-3 road wins the rest of the way getting to the 6 line is likely.http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Currently on the 7 line against 10 Stanford. Duke is the 2 in the 2-15 matchup. I haven't seen much of Duke this year outside of the Syracuse game so I don't know if that is 1 of the more favorable matchups we could hope for or not :dunno:
Duke has the most efficient offense in the country (ridiculously good at 1.28 ppp), but also the worst defense Coach K has had in the kenpom era (back to 03).
i would love a 6 seed
I very well can see a committee enhance our resume by demising the Northern Colorado game. I could also see the committee trying to line up KU and Wichita State on the 2, 3 seed lines.
I would love a potential E8 matchup with the Shockers. That would be fun.
I would :billdance: :dance: all day for a 6 seed.
we only have one (1) road win on the entire season, and it is @ TCU
Top 25 (and one):Woohoo:
1 Syracuse
2 Arizona
3 Florida
4 Villanova
5 Wichita State
6 San Diego State
7 Kansas
8 Michigan State
9 Cincinnati
10 Iowa State
11 Duke
12 Iowa
13 Saint Louis
14 Michigan
15 Creighton
16 Louisville
17 Connecticut
18 Virginia
19 Memphis
20 Kentucky
21 Wisconsin
22 Texas
23 Ohio State
24 Southern Methodist
25 Gonzaga
26 Kansas State
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Have you watched Syracuse this year? Yeah, they're good, but not a team I'm terrified of playing.
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eh i guess. would probably make it to the s16 and get killed by 'cuse. not sure it warrants 8 bracket mouses. If WSU was our 1 then maybe i could see it?
We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
I love you Winters, but Orlando sounds like the biggest tease in this world.We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
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We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
Like an hour drive from the beach though. If I remember correctly? Correct me if I'm wrong, Winters. Atlantic side if course.It's 45 minutes away from Tampa, but still. :shakesfist:
At this point, I cant see us going 10-8, so I think 11-7 would be our worst record. And with that, I don't think we would be on the 8/9 seed game come March. 5 seed will be our ceiling with a 6 or 7 seed being the more likely outcome
Mock selection committee picks #KState as a 6-seed in the NCAA tournament. Highest I've seen this season. What KSU has done is remarkable.
QuoteMock selection committee picks #KState as a 6-seed in the NCAA tournament. Highest I've seen this season. What KSU has done is remarkable.
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Looks good except for Syracuse.
#11 - http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html (http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html)
Still butthurt about oscar, taking it out on the catz.
I would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:
Like an hour drive from the beach though. If I remember correctly? Correct me if I'm wrong, Winters. Atlantic side if course.Daytona Beach :love:
We could do putt-putt by a Beef 'O Brady's :love:I love you Winters, but Orlando sounds like the biggest tease in this world.We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
:crossfingers:
Me: "Oh, man. Ok you guys! We're in Florida, let's hit up a beach."
Winters: "What are you talking about Fanning? Orlando isn't by the water. There's other stuff tho."
Me: "Wtf? I'm in a major Florida city and there's no beach? I'm out!"
I would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:Like an hour drive from the beach though. If I remember correctly? Correct me if I'm wrong, Winters. Atlantic side if course.Daytona Beach :love:We could do putt-putt by a Beef 'O Brady's :love:I love you Winters, but Orlando sounds like the biggest tease in this world.We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
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Me: "Oh, man. Ok you guys! We're in Florida, let's hit up a beach."
Winters: "What are you talking about Fanning? Orlando isn't by the water. There's other stuff tho."
Me: "Wtf? I'm in a major Florida city and there's no beach? I'm out!"
c'mon cats!
#11 - http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html (http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html)
Still butthurt about oscar, taking it out on the catz.
pfffft#11 - http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html (http://bracketodds.cs.illinois.edu/TT.html)
Still butthurt about oscar, taking it out on the catz.
I emailed the guy:
Thank you for your email. I would suggest you look at the BPI and the RPI (two measures the selection committee like to use), which provides some interesting insights into the teams you list. We also weight road wins very positively, and bad home losses very negatively. As such, OSU and OU are currently trending downward. In addition, these numbers are fluid, so they will continue to evolve until Selection Sunday
Thank you again for your interest.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
We got this thing back on track now. :love:I would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:Like an hour drive from the beach though. If I remember correctly? Correct me if I'm wrong, Winters. Atlantic side if course.Daytona Beach :love:We could do putt-putt by a Beef 'O Brady's :love:I love you Winters, but Orlando sounds like the biggest tease in this world.We should all be cheering for Orlando at this point. :Woot:
:crossfingers:
Me: "Oh, man. Ok you guys! We're in Florida, let's hit up a beach."
Winters: "What are you talking about Fanning? Orlando isn't by the water. There's other stuff tho."
Me: "Wtf? I'm in a major Florida city and there's no beach? I'm out!"
c'mon cats!
I'm down for all this
I would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:
I would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:
Blackfish, guys. :cry:
follow up email:
No problem Lefty. We are pure analytics... just by the numbers.
The KSU loss to NCol was indeed a killer that (unfortunately) the committee will not forget. I would like to see KSU grab a road win in the next two weeks. They will likely gravitate upward if this occurs, and/or if the other teams in the 7-11 range falter (like OSU and OU currently are).
BTW, not all people at Illinois were unhappy with oscar Weber. He is a nice man.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
Cheer up! and #gocats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G97m-VGExykI would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:
Blackfish, guys. :cry:
Yeah....makes me sad I love seaworld, now conflicted.
follow up email:
No problem Lefty. We are pure analytics... just by the numbers.
The KSU loss to NCol was indeed a killer that (unfortunately) the committee will not forget. I would like to see KSU grab a road win in the next two weeks. They will likely gravitate upward if this occurs, and/or if the other teams in the 7-11 range falter (like OSU and OU currently are).
BTW, not all people at Illinois were unhappy with oscar Weber. He is a nice man.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
This guy is a moron.
I don't think you get itfollow up email:
No problem Lefty. We are pure analytics... just by the numbers.
The KSU loss to NCol was indeed a killer that (unfortunately) the committee will not forget. I would like to see KSU grab a road win in the next two weeks. They will likely gravitate upward if this occurs, and/or if the other teams in the 7-11 range falter (like OSU and OU currently are).
BTW, not all people at Illinois were unhappy with oscar Weber. He is a nice man.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
This guy is a moron.
bad enough we (illinois) suck atbasketballall sports now, but now our supercomputer guys are fuckwits?
also, for a bunch of :kstategrad: s you guys sure like a lot of shitty chain restaurants. and excited about orlando? sheesh.
I don't think you get itfollow up email:
No problem Lefty. We are pure analytics... just by the numbers.
The KSU loss to NCol was indeed a killer that (unfortunately) the committee will not forget. I would like to see KSU grab a road win in the next two weeks. They will likely gravitate upward if this occurs, and/or if the other teams in the 7-11 range falter (like OSU and OU currently are).
BTW, not all people at Illinois were unhappy with oscar Weber. He is a nice man.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
This guy is a moron.
bad enough we (illinois) suck atbasketballall sports now, but now our supercomputer guys are fuckwits?
also, for a bunch of :kstategrad: s you guys sure like a lot of shitty chain restaurants. and excited about orlando? sheesh.
Wow I had no idea how bad Illinois is in basketball. They started 13-2 and followed it up with a 1-9 record.
OMG Wintz we gotta go to that show.Cheer up! and #gocats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G97m-VGExykI would Orlando the crap out the tourney if you go to sea world with me down their Wintz.Shamu :love:
Blackfish, guys. :cry:
Yeah....makes me sad I love seaworld, now conflicted.
I don't think you get itfollow up email:
No problem Lefty. We are pure analytics... just by the numbers.
The KSU loss to NCol was indeed a killer that (unfortunately) the committee will not forget. I would like to see KSU grab a road win in the next two weeks. They will likely gravitate upward if this occurs, and/or if the other teams in the 7-11 range falter (like OSU and OU currently are).
BTW, not all people at Illinois were unhappy with oscar Weber. He is a nice man.
Sheldon H. Jacobson, Ph.D.
Professor and Director, Sim. & Opt. Lab.
Department of Computer Science
University of Illinois
This guy is a moron.
bad enough we (illinois) suck atbasketballall sports now, but now our supercomputer guys are fuckwits?
also, for a bunch of :kstategrad: s you guys sure like a lot of shitty chain restaurants. and excited about orlando? sheesh.
:facepalm: <--- my face and my palm at my post.
(snack off discussions, tho)Wow I had no idea how bad Illinois is in basketball. They started 13-2 and followed it up with a 1-9 record.
oh ya.
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I honestly don't know why Mizzou is safely in. They had one win over UCLA and that's it.
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I honestly don't know why Mizzou is safely in. They had one win over UCLA and that's it.
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NICK!!!!!!
Mods can we make this guy a Fightin Bread in his profile, please? Thanks.
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I honestly don't know why Mizzou is safely in. They had one win over UCLA and that's it.
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NICK!!!!!!
This is some real big 10 hatred, or maybe just blind A10 love. How can Dayton be in the next four out but Nebraska not even be in any consideration for the tourney? Both teams are .500 in their respective conferences, but I think the big 10 is a bit harder (SARCASM) to play in than the A10. I know Dayton got a couple nice non-con wins with Gonzaga and Cal on neutral courts, but Nebraska's played a similar level of non conference (they just lost their big games) and has wins @MSU and at home over OSU. I also know that margin of victory doesn't matter, but Nebraska lost at home to Michigan by a point, they need some credit for that too. Sure Nebraska lost to UAB and had a couple tough road losses to Purdue and Penn St in the big 10, but Dayton's got such losses as Rhode Island and (ouch) USC on their resume. There is no way the A10 deserves as many teams in the tourney as the big 10 and more in than the ACC.
Fwiw we got mumped last year w/ our seedWTF are you talking about, we were one La Salle pants shitting away from taking the WSU cakewalk to the final four?
Weren't we a 4 seed last year?Yeah, that's what I thought. We played vs a play in winner.
Last year we won the Big 12 and were 27-7 and got a 6 seed.
This year we are not winning the Big 12, currently have 8 losses and will almost for sure have at least 10 by Selection Sunday...I'd say a 6 is out of the question and 7 is a long shot. Get ready for an 8/9 with Florida or Syracuse waiting for us. Don't think we're lucky enough to get that 8/9 in St Louis with the Shockers.
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Each year's resume doesn't exist in a vacuum. What other teams are doing has quite a bit to do with it. There are major variables every year.
For example, in 2011 there were 6 at large teams with 13+ losses, one as high as an 8. Two of the other 5s also had double digit losses that year. In 2010 we had 7 losses just like we did last year and got a 2 seed.
A couple more really quality wins (ISU, @OU, @OSU, B12 Tourney) could easily bump us up to the 4 or 5 line.
Are we on the bubble?1
We sucked last year and we suck this year so wgaf about our seed, we're going to lose early
Are we on the bubble?
Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win againstTCUBaylor. Lose first game in conf tourney.
Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
Love that zacker is back. He probably didn't know what to do w/ himself after the Texas and KU wins. :cheers:Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
Oh, eff. Forgot it was Baylor. We will lose to them. Yeah. We will be in danger.
Love that zacker is back. He probably didn't know what to do w/ himself after the Texas and KU wins. :cheers:Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
We already played TCU twice. We have @TT @OSU, Home for ISU/Baylor. No easy games.
But hey, I mean we beat KU and UT so eff yeah. Let's celebrate.Hey dork, I think if we win two the rest of the way we're in. I'm not a total dork store. :shakesfist:
Are we on the bubble?
I think we will end up being around the bubble. Automatic losses @ TT and OSU. Then lose to ISU. Muster a win against TCU. Lose first game in conf tourney.
We already played TCU twice. We have @TT @OSU, Home for ISU/Baylor. No easy games.
Hey. Did you know we beat KU and UT? That counts for like 8 wins. We could lose every game. Doesn't matter. Beat the hawks and horns.
But hey, I mean we beat KU and UT so eff yeah. Let's celebrate.Hey dork, I think if we win two the rest of the way we're in. I'm not a total dork store. :shakesfist:
:dubious:But hey, I mean we beat KU and UT so eff yeah. Let's celebrate.Hey dork, I think if we win two the rest of the way we're in. I'm not a total dork store. :shakesfist:
who cares about being in the tournament, we suck
:dubious:But hey, I mean we beat KU and UT so eff yeah. Let's celebrate.Hey dork, I think if we win two the rest of the way we're in. I'm not a total dork store. :shakesfist:
who cares about being in the tournament, we suck
wait, how do underrated freshmen overachieve? if the freshmen are really good then they should be doing way better than this crap.They got us here to our current state, which is IN!
We're literally guaranteed a NIT final 4 if we can get a 1 or 2 seed and pound some puds in the fOOD
We're literally guaranteed a NIT final 4 if we can get a 1 or 2 seed and pound some puds in the fOOD
We are going to the tornament.
We will win the 8/9 game.
We will lose a close game against the 1 seed.
We're literally guaranteed a NIT final 4 if we can get a 1 or 2 seed and pound some puds in the fOOD
We are going to the tornament.
We will win the 8/9 game.
We will lose a close game against the 1 seed.
fwiw i think we are going to win at Tech and both home games. and atleast 1 in the b12t :koolaid:
I think the difference between this team on the road and home is real and significant. Also, I don't put much stock into being a little flat against a terrible TCU team.
don't carefwiw i think we are going to win at Tech and both home games. and atleast 1 in the b12t :koolaid:
You also thought we were going to beat OU today.
:don'tcare:fwiw i think we are going to win at Tech and both home games. and atleast 1 in the b12t :koolaid:
You also thought we were going to beat OU today.
don't carefwiw i think we are going to win at Tech and both home games. and atleast 1 in the b12t :koolaid:
You also thought we were going to beat OU today.
don't carefwiw i think we are going to win at Tech and both home games. and atleast 1 in the b12t :koolaid:
You also thought we were going to beat OU today.
Binge level check-in, please.
wait, how do underrated freshmen overachieve? if the freshmen are really good then they should be doing way better than this crap.They got us here to our current state, which is IN!
I think the difference between this team on the road and home is real and significant. Also, I don't put much stock into being a little flat against a terrible TCU team.
I put stock in the last two games played being the worst games played since December. I think we are running out of gas, we'll see.
How anyone can expect this team to win outside of Bramlage is beyond me.
How anyone can expect this team to win outside of Bramlage is beyond me.
I think we'll win our first game in KC. We'll have a home court advantage vs anyone except KU there.
How anyone can expect this team to win outside of Bramlage is beyond me.
I think we'll win our first game in KC. We'll have a home court advantage vs anyone except KU there.
That home court advantage worked out real well against La Salle last year in KC.
:lol: :thumbs:How anyone can expect this team to win outside of Bramlage is beyond me.
I think we'll win our first game in KC. We'll have a home court advantage vs anyone except KU there.
That home court advantage worked out real well against La Salle last year in KC.
Hey man, oscar has won more games in his first two years than any coach in k-state history. he can lose every ncaa tournament game from now til the end of time and he'll still have won more games in his first two years than any other coach in k-state history. so just stfu already.
yep, we are destined to lose a tough game vs UF in Orlando or Syracuse in Buffalo and I will be thinking about the Heslip and Holmes as we intentionally foul the in the final minute.We're literally guaranteed a NIT final 4 if we can get a 1 or 2 seed and pound some puds in the fOOD
We are going to the tornament.
We will win the 8/9 game.
We will lose a close game against the 1 seed.
yep, we are destined to lose a tough game vs UF in Orlando or Syracuse in Buffalo and I will be thinking about the Heslip and Holmes as we intentionally foul the in the final minute.We're literally guaranteed a NIT final 4 if we can get a 1 or 2 seed and pound some puds in the fOOD
We are going to the tornament.
We will win the 8/9 game.
We will lose a close game against the 1 seed.
How much value does the BIG 12 tournament have? If we can make a run in there... does that boost national perception and help people forget we scored 22 points in the first half in Norman?
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Would only take an 8/9 seed if we play WSU in the 2nd round.
Can you imagine shockernet if we beat them?
Hey guys, I was just wondering if we lose all of our remaining games if we would still make the Big Dance. Because I'm pretty sure we're not going to win another game. Thanks.
At this point I think it's more likely the Cats fall to a 10 than rise to a 7. ISU at home would be a significant win though.
Would only take an 8/9 seed if we play WSU in the 2nd round.
Can you imagine shockernet if we beat them?
Ya, that was some bullshit for OSU as a 5 to have to play Oregon in San Jose, almost as bad as UNLV having to play 12 seeded Cal there.At this point I think it's more likely the Cats fall to a 10 than rise to a 7. ISU at home would be a significant win though.
I think we are gonna have to get 3 more wins to get off of the 8/9 game. That could be going 3-1 to end the season or 2-2 and win a Big12 tourney game (very likely the 4 vs 5 game in the B12). Like always it will depend on what those teams that are barely ahead of us do the rest of the year too.
I had Memphis as my weakest 7 seed. They have a good 20-6(10-4) record but only 4 of those wins are vs top 150. Lunardi had SMU as a 7 while I have them as a 9. Their non con SOS being 294 is horribly bad. And the American conference has good teams in the top half and terrible teams in the bottom half (thus the 8th rated conf overall). So the conf sched for SMU helps them some but their overall SOS is still 165(rpi 45)
** Last year Oregon went 26-8 but non con SOS was 253 and their overall SOS was only 125, RPI 46. They got a 12 seedWould only take an 8/9 seed if we play WSU in the 2nd round.
Can you imagine shockernet if we beat them?
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
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KU
KSU
OU –(former KSU coach Kruger from Silver lake Kansas)
Stephen F. Austin – (Former KSU assistant Brad Underwood from McPherson Kansas)
Southern Methodist -- (Former KU coach Larry Brown)
Wichita State
Oklahoma State – (Bill Self’s Alma mater)
Colorado – (Former KU player and Wichita State assistant Tad Boyle)
Michigan – Knocked KU out of tourney last year
Boston U - (B team)
I mean… come on Lunardi… give me a break.
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Wichita St would destroy us.
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Wichita St would destroy us.
I would rather play them than any other possible 1 or 2 seed that we might face as a 7-10 seed, and it's really not even close.
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Wichita St would destroy us.
I would rather play them than any other possible 1 or 2 seed that we might face as a 7-10 seed, and it's really not even close.
well you go ahead and do that pat, but i'll take florida all day long. oscar owns billy.
Yeah, being in the 8/9 game with Shockers as the 1 would be totally fine. If we don't get that, then being in the 8/9 game will likely suck
Wichita St would destroy us.
I would rather play them than any other possible 1 or 2 seed that we might face as a 7-10 seed, and it's really not even close.
well you go ahead and do that pat, but i'll take florida all day long. oscar owns billy.
JFC, Kim.
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Would only take an 8/9 seed if we play WSU in the 2nd round.
Can you imagine shockernet if we beat them?
Would validate ENTIRE SEASON. :Purple Koolaid:
Kansas State
(18-9, 8-6, 5th BIG12 ) | RPI/Rank: 0.5893/43 | SOS/Rank: 0.5726/33
Opponent's CBSSports.com RPI Rank No. 1-25 No. 26-50 No. 51-100 No. 101-200 No. 201+
W-L Record vs. Ranked Teams 3-4 3-1 2-2 4-2 6-0
Outlook
The Wildcats are a home court hero. They suffered their sixth straight road loss at Oklahoma on Saturday. They may have too many good wins to leave out entirely, but their seed will not be good if they don't ever get a good win on the road.
Would only take an 8/9 seed if we play WSU in the 2nd round.
Can you imagine shockernet if we beat them?
Would validate ENTIRE SEASON. :Purple Koolaid:
I would pulling for the Cardiac Cats so hard in that game.
we wouldn't win a first round NIT game. not joking.
do we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
do we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
11-7 HERE WE COME.
do we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
11-7 HERE WE COME.
do we get in at 9-9?LOCK
are we winning at OSU our not, you're confusing medo we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
11-7 HERE WE COME.
are we winning at OSU our not, you're confusing medo we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
11-7 HERE WE COME.
do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
Have you seen how weak the bubble is? A .500 team in the #1 RPI conference, with our wins, is not getting passed over.do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
are we winning at OSU our not, you're confusing medo we get in at 8-10? i don't think so
11-7 HERE WE COME.
do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
Yeah, if we lose our last 3, we'd still probably get in, but not a lock.
do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
Yeah, if we lose our last 3, we'd still probably get in, but not a lock.
Good thing it doesn't matter, since we are winning out.
do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
Yeah, if we lose our last 3, we'd still probably get in, but not a lock.
Good thing it doesn't matter, since we are winning out.
Have you seen how weak the bubble is? A .500 team in the #1 RPI conference, with our wins, is not getting passed over.do we get in at 9-9?LOCKlikely right side of the bubble
I will try saying this again. We are not close to the bubble. Wont be if we don't win another game.I know, bud. I've been following too. We're in. Playing for seeding now.
Tenn and Mizzou were both 7-7 in the bad SEC and had 1 top 50 win each.
Providence and St Johns each have 10 losses, are 8-7 in the Big East and each has 1 top 50 win
Lunardi had all 4 in before tonight. I would have probably had 3 of those 4 in as of this morning.... and the 3-4 teams barely not making it have just as bad a resume as these 4 teams.
The last 4-6 teams in the NCAA right now are weak. Most, if not all, would not be in the dance most years
Mizzou will be on the outside looking in after tonight. They're down 18 against UGA right now.
LOL like Mizzou even cares about bball anymore.
LOL like Mizzou even cares about bball anymore.
Judging by tigerboard right now, this is not the case.
LOL like Mizzou even cares about bball anymore.
Judging by tigerboard right now, this is not the case.
give it 14 months
6 seed
It would be anywhere from 5-6. We're lying on the 8-9 right now.6 seed
You're rough ridin' high.
6 seed
You're rough ridin' high.
Doesn't matter anyways. It's not happening.It would be anywhere from 5-6. We're lying on the 8-9 right now.6 seed
You're rough ridin' high.
Lunardi has K-State potentially matching up with Wichita State in the 2nd round of the Midwest region. I would be TSC'ing so hard for K-State if that game were to actually happen. Not even the most butthurt of the butthurt 'tater squad could keep me from TSC'ing my ass off for that one.
:tsc:
Cats got some work to do to get out of the 8/9 seed matchup come March. That work could start down at Tech. FWIW, I have Ku as a 2, Isu as a 4, OU and Texas as 6 seeds right now. Baylor at 6-8 probably barely in right now.
Team/Seed Record (Conf) RPI SOS 1-25 26-50 Other stat/comment
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7 UMass 21-5(8-4) 13 44 2-0 4-2 Beat GW and Vcu last 2 gms
7 UConn 21-6(9-5) 26 75 1-1 2-4 Beat Fla, Swept Memphis
7 N Mexico 21-5(12-2) 21 32 2-2 0-0 Beat SD St on Sat
7 Memphis 20-6(10-4) 37 86 0-2 3-4 Only have 4 wins vs top 150 rpi
8 KState 18-9(8-6) 42 42 3-4 3-1 good wins, bad road record
8 Stanford 18-8(9-5) 41 51 1-3 3-4 wins over Ucla and at Uconn
8 VCU 20-7(8-4) 25 49 1-2 2-2 Good win at Virg, split with GW
8 G Wash 20-7(8-5) 30 67 2-3 1-1 Good win over Creighton
9 Ariz St 19-8(8-6) 32 55 1-3 3-2 Beat AZ, but weak non con resume
9 Pitt 20-7(8-6) 33 53 0-6 1-0 Only good win is Stanford
9 SMU 22-6(11-4) 45 165 1-2 3-1 Beat Cincy, Swept UConn. But SOS 165, non con SOS 294
9 Cal 18-9(9-5) 49 47 1-4 2-2 Good win over AZ
We'll probably lose to SMU in an 8/9 game.:dubious:
We'll probably lose to SMU in an 8/9 game.
I'm amazed by how many people take Lunardi's seeding at face value. (Or think they have some special insight into seeding of their own.)
Cats got some work to do to get out of the 8/9 seed matchup come March. That work could start down at Tech. FWIW, I have Ku as a 2, Isu as a 4, OU and Texas as 6 seeds right now. Baylor at 6-8 probably barely in right now.
Team/Seed Record (Conf) RPI SOS 1-25 26-50 Other stat/comment
______________________________________________________________________________________________
7 UMass 21-5(8-4) 13 44 2-0 4-2 Beat GW and Vcu last 2 gms
7 UConn 21-6(9-5) 26 75 1-1 2-4 Beat Fla, Swept Memphis
7 N Mexico 21-5(12-2) 21 32 2-2 0-0 Beat SD St on Sat
7 Memphis 20-6(10-4) 37 86 0-2 3-4 Only have 4 wins vs top 150 rpi
8 KState 18-9(8-6) 42 42 3-4 3-1 good wins, bad road record
8 Stanford 18-8(9-5) 41 51 1-3 3-4 wins over Ucla and at Uconn
8 VCU 20-7(8-4) 25 49 1-2 2-2 Good win at Virg, split with GW
8 G Wash 20-7(8-5) 30 67 2-3 1-1 Good win over Creighton
9 Ariz St 19-8(8-6) 32 55 1-3 3-2 Beat AZ, but weak non con resume
9 Pitt 20-7(8-6) 33 53 0-6 1-0 Only good win is Stanford
9 SMU 22-6(11-4) 45 165 1-2 3-1 Beat Cincy, Swept UConn. But SOS 165, non con SOS 294
9 Cal 18-9(9-5) 49 47 1-4 2-2 Good win over AZ
Is there a website that lists this top to bottom somewhere?
Lunardi has K-State potentially matching up with Wichita State in the 2nd round of the Midwest region. I would be TSC'ing so hard for K-State if that game were to actually happen. Not even the most butthurt of the butthurt 'tater squad could keep me from TSC'ing my ass off for that one.
:tsc:
We'll probably lose to SMU in an 8/9 game.I might cry when Nick Russell ends the season :frown:
Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Is there a website that lists this top to bottom somewhere?
Lunardi has K-State potentially matching up with Wichita State in the 2nd round of the Midwest region. I would be TSC'ing so hard for K-State if that game were to actually happen. Not even the most butthurt of the butthurt 'tater squad could keep me from TSC'ing my ass off for that one.
:tsc:
NOTHING that has EVER been posted on the internet better demonstrates the collective fear that phoggie-nation has for the rise of Wichita State basketball than this example by beems.
Well done, sir.
:thumbsup:
Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
OMG A GUARD WAS ABLE TO CROSS OVER A 7-FOOT CENTER! LET'S FARM HUMP IT 'TIL INFINITY!!!
Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
OMG A GUARD WAS ABLE TO CROSS OVER A 7-FOOT CENTER! LET'S FARM HUMP IT 'TIL INFINITY!!!
OMG A TOP RATED GUARD BOUNCED IT THROUGH A SLOW WHITE KIDS LEGS. LET'S ROCK CHALK THAT crap TO DEATH! :tsc:
Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
OMG A GUARD WAS ABLE TO CROSS OVER A 7-FOOT CENTER! LET'S FARM HUMP IT 'TIL INFINITY!!!
This is exactly why YouTube was invented. Exactly.
Cats got some work to do to get out of the 8/9 seed matchup come March. That work could start down at Tech. FWIW, I have Ku as a 2, Isu as a 4, OU and Texas as 6 seeds right now. Baylor at 6-8 probably barely in right now.
Team/Seed Record (Conf) RPI SOS 1-25 26-50 Other stat/comment
______________________________________________________________________________________________
7 UMass 21-5(8-4) 13 44 2-0 4-2 Beat GW and Vcu last 2 gms
7 UConn 21-6(9-5) 26 75 1-1 2-4 Beat Fla, Swept Memphis
7 N Mexico 21-5(12-2) 21 32 2-2 0-0 Beat SD St on Sat
7 Memphis 20-6(10-4) 37 86 0-2 3-4 Only have 4 wins vs top 150 rpi
8 KState 18-9(8-6) 42 42 3-4 3-1 good wins, bad road record
8 Stanford 18-8(9-5) 41 51 1-3 3-4 wins over Ucla and at Uconn
8 VCU 20-7(8-4) 25 49 1-2 2-2 Good win at Virg, split with GW
8 G Wash 20-7(8-5) 30 67 2-3 1-1 Good win over Creighton
9 Ariz St 19-8(8-6) 32 55 1-3 3-2 Beat AZ, but weak non con resume
9 Pitt 20-7(8-6) 33 53 0-6 1-0 Only good win is Stanford
9 SMU 22-6(11-4) 45 165 1-2 3-1 Beat Cincy, Swept UConn. But SOS 165, non con SOS 294
9 Cal 18-9(9-5) 49 47 1-4 2-2 Good win over AZ
Is there a website that lists this top to bottom somewhere?
I wish we could play UMass', UNM's or Memphis' conference schedules. Our seeding would be swapped.
It was hilarious just like how this was funny last year... (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F745766037.gif%3F1363495906&hash=d84864b4708d66966a6244e48bbbddb438865791) Chill :tsc:Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
OMG A GUARD WAS ABLE TO CROSS OVER A 7-FOOT CENTER! LET'S FARM HUMP IT 'TIL INFINITY!!!
It was hilarious just like how this was funny last year... (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fd3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net%2Fphotos%2Flarge%2F745766037.gif%3F1363495906&hash=d84864b4708d66966a6244e48bbbddb438865791) Chill :tsc:Please, Baker would get his buns kicked and Wiggins would roll. Don't be a baguette.
Andy would probably rotate over late and just watch Baker dunk, kinda like he did after Sprads blew by Embiid with that sick crossover.
:gocho:
OMG A GUARD WAS ABLE TO CROSS OVER A 7-FOOT CENTER! LET'S FARM HUMP IT 'TIL INFINITY!!!
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology:love:Orlando :love:
i'm glad we're in and am not going to complain about our seed, pod, or draw. suck it losers.
It will be interesting to see how such a young team handles the tourney. We might have some deer in the headlight type of performances from a few of them.
True. That could be a very defining moment for our "most underrated freshman in the nation" Winning a few would be such a good boost for their confidence IMO
True. That could be a very defining moment for our "most underrated freshman in the nation" Winning a few would be such a good boost for their confidence IMO
A few in the tournament or the rest of the season? LOL if you're talking tourney.
the battered wife syndrome will never leave gE. It's science.
Someones gotta bring the zeal. :gocho:the battered wife syndrome will never leave gE. It's science.
and your sunshine pumping will never stop
Beat ISU and we move up to a 7 for the time being imo.
I like how Lunardi said during the Tech game that a loss there wouldn't hurt us. It's fun being in an awesome conference! :drool: :emawkid:
I think some teams that were above us, must of had some very important wins recently. That's the only explanation. Who did Arizona State beat recently?I like how Lunardi said during the Tech game that a loss there wouldn't hurt us. It's fun being in an awesome conference! :drool: :emawkid:
Yet we won and he moved us down to a 9 seed.
You guys in or not? I hope you are, but only after a loss to us.This isn't a serious question, is it?
Memphis just lost to Houston. Next...
I like how Lunardi said during the Tech game that a loss there wouldn't hurt us. It's fun being in an awesome conference! :drool: :emawkid:
Yet we won and he moved us down to a 9 seed.
I like how Lunardi said during the Tech game that a loss there wouldn't hurt us. It's fun being in an awesome conference! :drool: :emawkid:
Yet we won and he moved us down to a 9 seed.
Lunardi does this sometimes. Don't sweat it. We could beat Isu and he could have us up to a 7 seed.
If we win on Saturday that is exactly where we will be.... a 7 seed
*Memphis lost to a team whose rpi was higher than 150
*I thought Iowa was weak 6 or solid 7 seed coming into tonight. They are 8-7 after their loss tonight. They have 2 easy home games and at Sparty left. The home wins wont do much since the opponents suck.
Both of those things were good news for us.
I like how Lunardi said during the Tech game that a loss there wouldn't hurt us. It's fun being in an awesome conference! :drool: :emawkid:
Yet we won and he moved us down to a 9 seed.
Lunardi does this sometimes. Don't sweat it. We could beat Isu and he could have us up to a 7 seed.
If we win on Saturday that is exactly where we will be.... a 7 seed
*Memphis lost to a team whose rpi was higher than 150
*I thought Iowa was weak 6 or solid 7 seed coming into tonight. They are 8-7 after their loss tonight. They have 2 easy home games and at Sparty left. The home wins wont do much since the opponents suck.
Both of those things were good news for us.
We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
Charlotte, Georgetown. Next...We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
Actually, tourny is nothing but domestic, neutral-site games. And, we haven't lost one of those yet. so.
Charlotte, Georgetown. Next...We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
Actually, tourny is nothing but domestic, neutral-site games. And, we haven't lost one of those yet. so.
Oh, that's dumb.
Well, I don't think that either. :don'tcare:Oh, that's dumb.
No it's not. What's dumb is thinking that the team that lost all those early season games is the same one going into the NCAA's.
We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
I would have to look up the article, but I recall the biggest correlation between tourney wins and regular season performance is actually home record, which is weird, but good for us.
:nono: Witchita and New York.
:nono: Witchita and New York.
We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
I've heard the talking point several times over the past week that the committee will overlook Oklahoma St's losses while Marcus Smart was suspended. I have also heard a few times in the past several weeks that the committee will definitely consider our loss to Northern Colorado. Why?? Gipson was hurt when we played them. No one ever brings that up. Why does OSU get a pass and we don't? Is it because Smart is a much bigger part of their overall team? Or, is it because Northern Colorado is just such a bad loss that not having Gipson available to play should matter?
I've heard the talking point several times over the past week that the committee will overlook Oklahoma St's losses while Marcus Smart was suspended. I have also heard a few times in the past several weeks that the committee will definitely consider our loss to Northern Colorado. Why?? Gipson was hurt when we played them. No one ever brings that up. Why does OSU get a pass and we don't? Is it because Smart is a much bigger part of their overall team? Or, is it because Northern Colorado is just such a bad loss that not having Gipson available to play should matter?
We have won two conf roadies. The tournament is nothing but roadies. It doesn't matter what seed we get or who we play. Simply going this year is a big W.
I would have to look up the article, but I recall the biggest correlation between tourney wins and regular season performance is actually home record, which is weird, but good for us.
I've heard the talking point several times over the past week that the committee will overlook Oklahoma St's losses while Marcus Smart was suspended. I have also heard a few times in the past several weeks that the committee will definitely consider our loss to Northern Colorado. Why?? Gipson was hurt when we played them. No one ever brings that up. Why does OSU get a pass and we don't? Is it because Smart is a much bigger part of their overall team? Or, is it because Northern Colorado is just such a bad loss that not having Gipson available to play should matter?
I've heard the talking point several times over the past week that the committee will overlook Oklahoma St's losses while Marcus Smart was suspended. I have also heard a few times in the past several weeks that the committee will definitely consider our loss to Northern Colorado. Why?? Gipson was hurt when we played them. No one ever brings that up. Why does OSU get a pass and we don't? Is it because Smart is a much bigger part of their overall team? Or, is it because Northern Colorado is just such a bad loss that not having Gipson available to play should matter?
It's because Marcus Smart is a national player of the year award watch listee. They want him there for ratings. Tourney is money time for the NCAA. Gotta maximize rev.
I've been saying for 2 months that we'd sneak up into a 5 seed.
I've been saying for 2 months that we'd sneak up into a 5 seed.
LOL. No surprise. By your recent posts. You have NO CLUE. Let someone else who has a clue post now....
Joey Brackets has Duke 'Cuse Wisconsin and UVA as 2 seeds tonight. DO NOT WANT. Would prefer Florida WSU or AZ to any of those. Gotta hope we sneak up to the 6 line.
I've been saying for 2 months that we'd sneak up into a 5 seed.
LOL. No surprise. By your recent posts. You have NO CLUE. Let someone else who has a clue post now....
I'm sorry Powercat Posse but you have me mixed up with another poster. Figure out who and post here http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5317.0)
Joey Brackets has Duke 'Cuse Wisconsin and UVA as 2 seeds tonight. DO NOT WANT. Would prefer Florida WSU or AZ to any of those. Gotta hope we sneak up to the 6 line.
No doubt in my mind we're a 7 seed with Wisconsin being the 2 seed in our bracket.
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
It is ridiculous FAN. Of course Palm has Pitt as a 8 seed and they are 10-6 in ACC and have 1 win over anyone in the top 70 (Stanford). Plus a SOS at 87. He also has Memphis 3 seed lines better than us despite only 5 of their 22 wins coming from teams inside the top 145 RPI, plus a 11-5 record in the 8th rated conf. Palm never really has been a very accurate bracketologist anyway.Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
This seems ridiculous to me. 4 Top 25 wins for the Cats. 7 Top 50 wins. 9 Top 100 wins.
It is ridiculous FAN. Of course Palm has Pitt as a 8 seed and they are 10-6 in ACC and have 1 win over anyone in the top 70 (Stanford). Plus a SOS at 87. He also has Memphis 3 seed lines better than us despite only 5 of their 22 wins coming from teams inside the top 145 RPI, plus a 11-5 record in the 8th rated conf. Palm never really has been a very accurate bracketologist anyway.Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
This seems ridiculous to me. 4 Top 25 wins for the Cats. 7 Top 50 wins. 9 Top 100 wins.
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
would take compared to a 7 in a bracket with 'cuse 'consin 'ke or 'ginia
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
would take compared to a 7 in a bracket with 'cuse 'consin 'ke or 'ginia
Yeah but if we end up playing WSU, itll be bleeding Kansas up in here
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
would take compared to a 7 in a bracket with 'cuse 'consin 'ke or 'ginia
Yeah but if we end up playing WSU, itll be bleeding Kansas up in here
good.
Joe Lunardi ?@ESPNLunardi · 3h
28-Vcu; 29-Smu, 30-Mem, 31-AzSt, 32-KSt; 33-Zaga, 34-Gw, 35-Pitt, 36-Stan; 37-Xav, 38-Col, 39-StJoe, 40-Cal; 41-Byu, 42-Bay, 43-OkSt, 44-Ark
I think we should be ahead of those four teams right in front of us.
Joe Lunardi ?@ESPNLunardi · 3h
28-Vcu; 29-Smu, 30-Mem, 31-AzSt, 32-KSt; 33-Zaga, 34-Gw, 35-Pitt, 36-Stan; 37-Xav, 38-Col, 39-StJoe, 40-Cal; 41-Byu, 42-Bay, 43-OkSt, 44-Ark
I think we should be ahead of those four teams right in front of us.
I really hope if we aren't a 6 or 7 that they drop us to a 10 to screw over a weak 7 and then we hope for the best on the 2 line.
Something like:
Iowa 7
Kansas St. 10
Michigan/Creighton/Wichita St 2
we are going to get a 6 yo.
we are going to get a 6 yo.
If we get 2 more wins, then yes.
we are going to get a 6 yo.
If we get 2 more wins, then yes.
what happens if we win 4? because that is the minimum we are going to win preNCAAT.
we are going to get a 6 yo.
If we get 2 more wins, then yes.
what happens if we win 4? because that is the minimum we are going to win preNCAAT.
If I knew that would happen I would root against us tomorrow so hard.
The way I'm seeing it is 5 wins (making us Big 12 tourney champs) gets us a 4 seed, 4 wins and runner up gets us a 5 seed, 3 wins and only 1 loss gets us the 6, 2 wins gets us a 7, 1 win gets us an 8 or 9 and, no wins gets us a 10 or 11.
http://tw.nbcsports.com/K9S
7 seed
http://tw.nbcsports.com/K9S
7 seed
They have Tenn and Mizzou in the tourney.
:'bye cruel world:
http://tw.nbcsports.com/K9S
7 seed
They have Tenn and Mizzou in the tourney.
:'bye cruel world:
I also don't see how KU gets a 1 at this point. Worst 1 seed ever? :dunno:
http://tw.nbcsports.com/K9S
7 seed
They have Tenn and Mizzou in the tourney.
:'bye cruel world:
I also don't see how KU gets a 1 at this point. Worst 1 seed ever? :dunno:
2000 Michigan St was a 1 seed despite 7 losses.
And if WSU gets a 1 KU won't even be the worst 1 seed in this tournament.
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
Palm has us as a #9 (on the bubble :dubious:) vs. Pitt in STL. Wichita st. as the 1
Lunardi the same just swapping 8-9 with Pitt
the majority of the talking heads want to throw out charlotte and northern colorado so i hope that happens, i have us as a 8 with a win tonight and saturday giving us a 6. the funny thing is we will have a great chance against another top 25 rpi win next week and there are not too many teams that can boast 7 wins against the top 25 in a season historically
stats come from twitter fwiw
im obviously no bracketologist _fence but i would think our road woes against even/sub par teams would be more of a talking point than losing two early season games with two major (i know jevon blah blah) contributors out. I was listening to fox sports radio this weekend during the VCU game and they were gushing GW and that was early in the year as well. I mean kstate is always a wild card in these things because people forget about us but that early season losses/wins against the zags and GW should balance each other out. they will look at who we have beat since december and we will get a pretty damn good seed.the majority of the talking heads want to throw out charlotte and northern colorado so i hope that happens, i have us as a 8 with a win tonight and saturday giving us a 6. the funny thing is we will have a great chance against another top 25 rpi win next week and there are not too many teams that can boast 7 wins against the top 25 in a season historically
stats come from twitter fwiw
I've come to the conclusion that there is only so much you can throw out. Most rational people can clearly see we are a better team than the one that lost to those teams. In that way those games can be overlooked.
However they still effect our ratings to an extent and we still have 9 losses. We aren't looked at as a 20-7 team as if those games didn't happen. And when comparing teams that comes into play. Throw in our poor road record and our high number of quality wins (which is really good) unfortunately carries less weight than it should.
At the end of the day those two losses will cost us at least one seed line and maybe two, even if everyone wants to say they are thrown out.
I think it's a combination of them and the road problems. Having success away from home would have erased those early loss concerns imo. If we pull out those 2 W's @Texas and @Baylor I think we're talking about the 4/5 line right now.
http://sports.yahoo.com/featured/ncaab/bigboard/
This guy has us as a solid 7 :gocho:
i'd party pretty hard for a 7 seed.
i'd party pretty hard for a 7 seed.
Why settle for a 7 when a 6 is available?
tournament looks pretty pud city this year after the first 6-8 overall seeds a 5/6/7 seed is huge this yeari'd party pretty hard for a 7 seed.
Why settle for a 7 when a 6 is available?
my face would fall off from partying if we got a 6 seed
I hope the only data the committee has regarding teams being less than full strength during losses is from our losses to north colorado and charlotte.
I hope the only data the committee has regarding teams being less than full strength during losses is from our losses to north colorado and charlotte.
I hope the only data the committee has regarding teams being less than full strength during losses is from our losses to north colorado and charlotte.
You have your wish. As a general rule, the committee has said "missing players" is taken into consideration for losses not wins. This was brought up recently when Oregon beat UCLA who was missing two starters due to suspension. Oregon gets full credit for the win, UCLA will have the missing players taken into consideration for seeding.
The committee focuses on the team you have available to play in the tourney, and how that roster performed. That's why losses when not at full strength get treated differently, because that's not the team you're fielding currently. It's why losing a player before the tourney hurts seeding, because the team that built the resume isn't the same one playing in the tourney.
In general I believe that the bracketologists are not very good at their jobs. Their brackets will change a lot in the next two weeks. In the last couple of days you will see Lunardi's bracket magically change as he starts getting insider info from friends inside the committee.
To do a valid bracket prediction you have to set up projections for every team in the bracket.
With three straight losses, Kansas State could be sitting on a 11 or 12 seed.
With 5 straight wins, Kansas State could be sitting on a 4 Seed maybe even a 3.
I am of the opinion we will go 2-2 and be a 6 seed. Our RPI should look good as we should get another top 50 RPI win and I don't think we will have another opportunity at a bad loss.
One thing that would really help us is to look good tonight on Big Monday. This will be a highly watched game by the committee as it is the only thing on and both teams have weird resumes.
OSU without Smart for three games (losses)
KSU road vs. home record.
The fix is in FSD.
Give me the 'ta state bracket or bust.
:dubious:Give me the 'ta state bracket or bust.
We can beat them, don't care what anyone else says.
KU as a 1 seed with 7 losses and us as a 9 seed with 9 losses doesn't reconcile with me. Aren't most of our "good wins" the same?
KU as a 1 seed with 7 losses and us as a 9 seed with 9 losses doesn't reconcile with me. Aren't most of our "good wins" the same?
KU as a 1 seed with 7 losses and us as a 9 seed with 9 losses doesn't reconcile with me. Aren't most of our "good wins" the same?
No
WTF?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Oklahoma State too.WTF?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
And Baylor as a 9 :confused:
WTF?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Oklahoma State too.WTF?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
And Baylor as a 9 :confused:
WTF?
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
would take, over an 8/9
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
Well then I under value his bracketology. he probably put that thing together at home. :jerk:http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
I think Palm is basically saying we are a lock too, but he under values our good wins because they are all at home.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
If the committee really looks into they would be punishing us for have a really tough road schedule and a couple signal possession games. It would be magnifying an issue that should be a huge deal.
so beating the zags in wichita doesnt count but beating a team like isu or baylor in kc does? this guy is a jokehttp://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
I think Palm is basically saying we are a lock too, but he under values our good wins because they are all at home.
Wowsers! Illinois had a stretch of losing 10 out of 11 games at one point.
:sdeek:
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yesso beating the zags in wichita doesnt count but beating a team like isu or baylor in kc does?http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
I think Palm is basically saying we are a lock too, but he under values our good wins because they are all at home.
but he said neutral court? seems to me they are the same scenario :dunno:yesso beating the zags in wichita doesnt count but beating a team like isu or baylor in kc does?http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
I think Palm is basically saying we are a lock too, but he under values our good wins because they are all at home.
:thumbs: :Woot:Wowsers! Illinois had a stretch of losing 10 out of 11 games at one point.
:sdeek:
Yeah, but it's a new goddamned day wackys08 and you either get on board or you get rough ridin' run over and that's just the way it is. Toot, toot! #bubbleupagus
Wowsers! Illinois had a stretch of losing 10 out of 11 games at one point.
:sdeek:
Yeah, but it's a new goddamned day wackys08 and you either get on board or you get rough ridin' run over and that's just the way it is. Toot, toot! #bubbleupagus
Good luck Breads!
Good luck Breads!
Currently kp #59 (and rising)! :eek:
nails on offense, eff ya!
KU as a 1 seed with 7 losses and us as a 9 seed with 9 losses doesn't reconcile with me. Aren't most of our "good wins" the same?
KU beat Duke and they beat Isu, OU and Baylor twice. And they have the #1 non con SOS to go along with playing 18 games in the best conf
I guess I forgot that some people think 'reconcile' is a brainy word. Also forgot that FSD thinks anyone should GAF about what does or does not 'reconcile' with him. Look up games played and wins against RPI top 25, top 50, top 100, etc. The answers you seek are contained therein.
I'm still trying to reconcile the following 2 queries:
1.) When was the last time you got your ass kissed?
2.) When was the last time you got your dick sucked?
I suspect the answers to these questions are the same as above - rarely, if ever.
I'm still trying to reconcile the following 2 queries:
1.) When was the last time you got your ass kissed?
2.) When was the last time you got your dick sucked?
I suspect the answers to these questions are the same as above - rarely, if ever.
1) delete account
2) go to scout.com
3) create user profile "spracne"
4) continue acting like a rough ridin' butthurt hillbilly
Mich St was a 1 seed in 2000 with 7 losses. That is the last time (and maybe only time)
With Cuse loss tonight. I think KU/Wisc are the best 2 candidates to be the 1 seed Cuse just gave up. Some peeps also like Duke... but here is why I would say no right now=
KU = 7 losses, 12 wins vs top 50, RPI 3, SOS 1
Wis= 5 losses, 8 wins vs top 50, RPI 5, SOS 2
Duke=6 losses, 5 wins vs top 50, RPI 8, SOS 9
#BeemsPost
#BeemsPost
Stop being a rough ridin' idiot, there are like 5 posters here who don't already know you suck, you could hang on to that
Mich St was a 1 seed in 2000 with 7 losses. That is the last time (and maybe only time)
With Cuse loss tonight. I think KU/Wisc are the best 2 candidates to be the 1 seed Cuse just gave up. Some peeps also like Duke... but here is why I would say no right now=
KU = 7 losses, 12 wins vs top 50, RPI 3, SOS 1
Wis= 5 losses, 8 wins vs top 50, RPI 5, SOS 2
Duke=6 losses, 5 wins vs top 50, RPI 8, SOS 9
What about 8 or 9 losses?
#BeemsPost
Stop being a rough ridin' idiot, there are like 5 posters here who don't already know you suck, you could hang on to that
Say butthurt again
Mich St was a 1 seed in 2000 with 7 losses. That is the last time (and maybe only time)
With Cuse loss tonight. I think KU/Wisc are the best 2 candidates to be the 1 seed Cuse just gave up. Some peeps also like Duke... but here is why I would say no right now=
KU = 7 losses, 12 wins vs top 50, RPI 3, SOS 1
Wis= 5 losses, 8 wins vs top 50, RPI 5, SOS 2
Duke=6 losses, 5 wins vs top 50, RPI 8, SOS 9
What about 8 or 9 losses?
To my knowledge..... 7 is the most. And I think 2000 is only year 7 losses got one
Mich St was a 1 seed in 2000 with 7 losses. That is the last time (and maybe only time)
With Cuse loss tonight. I think KU/Wisc are the best 2 candidates to be the 1 seed Cuse just gave up. Some peeps also like Duke... but here is why I would say no right now=
KU = 7 losses, 12 wins vs top 50, RPI 3, SOS 1
Wis= 5 losses, 8 wins vs top 50, RPI 5, SOS 2
Duke=6 losses, 5 wins vs top 50, RPI 8, SOS 9
What about 8 or 9 losses?
To my knowledge..... 7 is the most. And I think 2000 is only year 7 losses got one
2001 Illinois had 7 losses
2012 Michigan State had 7 losses (Mizzou fans were pissed with only 4 losses, as a result they really took it out on Norfolk)
Have you watched Syracuse this year? Yeah, they're good, but not a team I'm terrified of playing.
So Iowa State has 1 more conference road win than us and is being projected as a 3 seed. Is there that big of a difference between 2-7 and 3-6?
So Iowa State has 1 more conference road win than us and is being projected as a 3 seed. Is there that big of a difference between 2-7 and 3-6?
They are benefiting for going undefeated in the OOC with 2 really good wins. And they should.
Mich St was a 1 seed in 2000 with 7 losses. That is the last time (and maybe only time)
With Cuse loss tonight. I think KU/Wisc are the best 2 candidates to be the 1 seed Cuse just gave up. Some peeps also like Duke... but here is why I would say no right now=
KU = 7 losses, 12 wins vs top 50, RPI 3, SOS 1
Wis= 5 losses, 8 wins vs top 50, RPI 5, SOS 2
Duke=6 losses, 5 wins vs top 50, RPI 8, SOS 9
Palm is an idiot.
I think you guys are greatly missing the Northern Colorado and Charlotte losses. Whether Gip played or not a top 6 seed should beat both of those teams by 20. Stop even comparing our record to KU's. They have no bad losses, we have 2 glaring, gross losses.I think you're too fixated on those early season losses and all your hate for all things named oscar.
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
Everybody thinks we have a really great shot vs Witchita St and I have no clue why? I get that their schedule sucked, but they're really rough ridin' good. I think if this team wins one game in the tourney, the season was a success.Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
really depends on the two or one is. I firmly believe we have a better chance vs WSU than Wisconsin or Duke.
Everybody thinks we have a really great shot vs Witchita St and I have no clue why? I get that their schedule sucked, but they're really rough ridin' good. I think if this team wins one game in the tourney, the season was a success.Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
really depends on the two or one is. I firmly believe we have a better chance vs WSU than Wisconsin or Duke.
Everybody thinks we have a really great shot vs Witchita St and I have no clue why? I get that their schedule sucked, but they're really rough ridin' good. I think if this team wins one game in the tourney, the season was a success.Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
really depends on the two or one is. I firmly believe we have a better chance vs WSU than Wisconsin or Duke.
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.Depends if you want a better shot at winning one game or two. Beating a 8 or 9 is easier then beating a 7. Beating a 7 and a 2 is easier then beating a 8/9 and a 1.
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.Depends if you want a better shot at winning one game or two. Beating a 8 or 9 is easier then beating a 7. Beating a 7 and a 2 is easier then beating a 8/9 and a 1.
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.Depends if you want a better shot at winning one game or two. Beating a 8 or 9 is easier then beating a 7. Beating a 7 and a 2 is easier then beating a 8/9 and a 1.
Oh crap, we are going to end up playing Wisc in the second round again. If we make it that far.
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.Depends if you want a better shot at winning one game or two. Beating a 8 or 9 is easier then beating a 7. Beating a 7 and a 2 is easier then beating a 8/9 and a 1.
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/ncaa-tournament-odds-a-seed-advancing-166169
Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.Depends if you want a better shot at winning one game or two. Beating a 8 or 9 is easier then beating a 7. Beating a 7 and a 2 is easier then beating a 8/9 and a 1.
http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/ncaa-tournament-odds-a-seed-advancing-166169
A little outdated, doesn't include FGCU being a 15 seed into the Sweet 16. Actually, none of last year's tourney got incorporated into their stats. Interesting stuff nonetheless
Everybody thinks we have a really great shot vs Witchita St and I have no clue why? I get that their schedule sucked, but they're really rough ridin' good. I think if this team wins one game in the tourney, the season was a success.Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
really depends on the two or one is. I firmly believe we have a better chance vs WSU than Wisconsin or Duke.
That's fair.Everybody thinks we have a really great shot vs Witchita St and I have no clue why? I get that their schedule sucked, but they're really rough ridin' good. I think if this team wins one game in the tourney, the season was a success.Someone speak slowly and explain exactly why a 10 seed is functionally worse than an 8/9. It seems to be better in nearly every way.
really depends on the two or one is. I firmly believe we have a better chance vs WSU than Wisconsin or Duke.
I don't think we beat WSU I the Ro32 but I do think we beat them more times out of 100 than Duke or Wisconsin.
The big 12 tourney is much more of a neutral court game than say the game in Wichita against the Zags, yes, imo.but he said neutral court? seems to me they are the same scenario :dunno:yesso beating the zags in wichita doesnt count but beating a team like isu or baylor in kc does?http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/bubble-watch?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001
The road losses are a big deal to some, probably most.
ESPN bubble watch has us as a lock
I think Palm is basically saying we are a lock too, but he under values our good wins because they are all at home.
People putting us at a 10 is not unusual though, but most have us as 8 or 9.of the peeps who updated the brackets, we have a handful of them who had us at 6/7 seed and about the same who had us as a 10/11. People just need to quit worrying about what Palm thinks. If ok st losses in Ames, their road record in conf will be 2-7 just like us. He had baylor as a 9 too. They went 1-7 vs ku/isu/OU/UT ...the 4 highest rated teams. We went 4-4.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com
We won't know until the brackets are released, but I doubt there will be a significant difference between 7, 8, or 9s. Of course, there might also not be much difference between a 1 or 2. Depends on who we get. So whatever, let's just get the highest seed we can get.
It doesn't matter because we aren't beating any of the 1 or 2 seeds. Good grief.It still beats the crap out of winning the NIT! :peek: :emawkid:
It doesn't matter because we aren't beating any of the 1 or 2 seeds. Good grief.
It doesn't matter because we aren't beating any of the 1 or 2 seeds. Good grief.
w/o embiid, ku is putty in oscar's hands.
in his hands.
It doesn't matter because we aren't beating any of the 1 or 2 seeds. Good grief.
Note that Baylor, which is seeded ahead of KSU, is still on the bubble because there still is potential for the Bears to take a bad loss.
QuoteNote that Baylor, which is seeded ahead of KSU, is still on the bubble because there still is potential for the Bears to take a bad loss.
what does this even mean? baylor's next two games will be against ksu cats or texas/isu, win and they then would either face ku or ou.
palm son your bbs'n is nails, i don't even.
Latest Palm bracket
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Can't see KSU getting past 'Zona in this one. Also, the Shocks can't be happy about getting Okie St. in the second round.
Do you think a W vs. Baylor and a 1st round P66 win gets us a 7 _fan? I'd like to think it does but may depend on opponent in P66 :dunno:
have not seen a single 'nova game...what is the story on them?
have not seen a single 'nova game...what is the story on them?didn't they destroy lil bro in some tourney? Also we would beat zona guys stop being dumb
Idk if we beat 'zona but would prefer them to Florida. Don't know where I would rank 'nova.have not seen a single 'nova game...what is the story on them?didn't they destroy lil bro in some tourney? Also we would beat zona guys stop being dumb
have not seen a single 'nova game...what is the story on them?didn't they destroy lil bro in some tourney? Also we would beat zona guys stop being dumb
We have weird fans.
True. :emawkid:We have weird fans.
You and I are 2 of the more level headed K-State fans, Fanman. :cheers:
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
7 seed in this south would be fun, the 8 in the south not nearly as much.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
7 seed in this south would be fun, the 8 in the south not nearly as much.
i have they are the Syracuse of the westhave not seen a single 'nova game...what is the story on them?didn't they destroy lil bro in some tourney? Also we would beat zona guys stop being dumb
Have you seen them play? I have, and they're really good. What makes you think we can beat them?
You guys, we've beat a potential #1 seed. Let's not act like it's out of this realm that it could happen again.
You guys, we've beat a potential #1 seed. Let's not act like it's out of this realm that it could happen again.
You do realize we aren't going to play the 1 seed at home and that we absolutely suck away form Bramlage, right?
But can your numbers say anything about the size of a team's heart? Like, inches or centimeters?
Last year it seemed like the media was using "the motion offense is so difficult to prepare for" narrative very often with oscar's team. I don't think I've heard it yet this year. I'm hoping this statement actually comes into fruition this year. Especially if we do get past the 8/9 and the 1 seed has a day to prepare.
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The SOS are all jacked on that. Espn has some flaws in the system for whatever reason. I look on there a lot and they now have the road/neutral records screwed up if you click on an individual team. They have every team as playing 0 neutral games. For us they have us 3-8 on road and 0-0 in neutral. It wasn't that way all year..... but like I said ESPN has some flaws in their system from time to time
We could land 7 in the dance and see all 7 in the Sw16 depending on the brackets. K-State could very well be a top 10 team. All Big 12 final four? Possibly. I like our chances against anyone on a neutral floor from a different conference.
Something that may be getting overlooked is that the Big 12 top to bottom is clearly the strongest conference this year. We could land 7 in the dance and see all 7 in the Sw16 depending on the brackets. K-State could very well be a top 10 team. All Big 12 final four? Possibly. I like our chances against anyone on a neutral floor from a different conference.
The SOS are all jacked on that. Espn has some flaws in the system for whatever reason. I look on there a lot and they now have the road/neutral records screwed up if you click on an individual team. They have every team as playing 0 neutral games. For us they have us 3-8 on road and 0-0 in neutral. It wasn't that way all year..... but like I said ESPN has some flaws in their system from time to time
I thought the SOS looked strange for us and others, the other info still its pretty nice for comparison.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
7 seed in this south would be fun, the 8 in the south not nearly as much.
I would love to play any of the teams seeded 7-10 here with the exception of New Mexico.
Also, didn't the NCAA change their rules a couple of about how early conference opponents could meet? Can't they meet in the 2nd round now? Would be interesting to see how that plays out if OSU, Baylor, and K-State all end up on the 8/9 line and KU gets a 1.
I know there's not a difference between an 8 and a 9 seed, but it's just the logic of those two being higher seeds that I don't get.Palm is not good at his job. I will continue to say this. Its not just this year. He has been inaccurate for several years. He only gets mentioned nationally because he is CBS main bracket guy
I read that the past is not a perfect indicator of the future. I also read that there's a first time for everything.
http://thepowerrank.com/visual/NCAA_Tournament_Predictions (http://thepowerrank.com/visual/NCAA_Tournament_Predictions)
http://thepowerrank.com/visual/NCAA_Tournament_Predictions (http://thepowerrank.com/visual/NCAA_Tournament_Predictions)
Duke is going to win the whole thing and I'm going to party rock like crazy when they do.
I think almost everyone realizes that we are in the 8 vs 9 seed game right now. I may put my breakdowns of the teams a bit later on.
I would have these 8 teams as 8/9 seeds right now --- Baylor, Oregon, GWash, KState as 8 seeds. Gonzaga Iowa OK St and Ariz St as 9 seeds
10 seeds -- Stanford Colorado Nebraska SMU.
IF we can beat Iowa St, I think there is a good chance we are wearing the home grey jerseys 1st game NCAA. Have to win that one before anything better than a 8 seed can be talked about
YES PLEASE! :drool: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
YES PLEASE! :drool: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
YES PLEASE! :drool: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
That would be very interesting.
The CBS bracket is probably dead on, because they are going to pop their heads into the committee room and be like "Ummmm yeah, we need you guys to put Wichita State and Kansas in the same bracket, because no one outside of Kansas will watch if those two make it to the Final Four, mmmmmkaaayyy bye!"
The CBS bracket is probably dead on, because they are going to pop their heads into the committee room and be like "Ummmm yeah, we need you guys to put Wichita State and Kansas in the same bracket, because no one outside of Kansas will watch if those two make it to the Final Four, mmmmmkaaayyy bye!"
A mid-major, undefeated team in the FF and nobody will want to watch? You really believe that? They would be two games away from being best pals with the '72 Dolphins.
There have been 7 NCAA Men’s Division I basketball champions with perfect records:
1956 San Francisco Dons (29–0)
1957 North Carolina Tar Heels (32–0)
1964 UCLA Bruins (30–0)
1967 UCLA Bruins (30–0)
1972 UCLA Bruins (30–0)
1973 UCLA Bruins (30–0)
1976 Indiana Hoosiers (32–0)
One team's perfect season is still in progress:
2014 Wichita State Shockers (entered the tournament 34–0, postseason results TBD.)
This first round matchup makes a lot more sense.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
This first round matchup makes a lot more sense.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
No way are K-State, KU and WSU going to be in the same regionAnd why is that? They push for this matchups all the time. It matches perfectly too.
This first round matchup makes a lot more sense.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
yesThis first round matchup makes a lot more sense.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
Doesn't Nick Russell play at smu?
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No way are K-State, KU and WSU going to be in the same regionAnd why is that? They push for this matchups all the time. It matches perfectly too.
No way are K-State, KU and WSU going to be in the same regionAnd why is that? They push for this matchups all the time. It matches perfectly too.
It just won't. Either KU or WSU will be out west imo.
No way are K-State, KU and WSU going to be in the same regionAnd why is that? They push for this matchups all the time. It matches perfectly too.
It just won't. Either KU or WSU will be out west imo.
Some team will have to go out west and be the 2 seed with 1 seed Ariz. None of the possible 2 seeds are on the west half of the US, so the weakest 2 is likely the one that gets shipped out there. They could send KU out west as the 2, but I think a better shot it is someone else
Thought they did pods and region didn't matter for the Ro64 and Ro32?
Is KU completely ruled out from getting the last 1 seed? Especially if they beat OSU, ISU/K-State & OU/Texas to win the Big 12 tournament?
Is KU completely ruled out from getting the last 1 seed? Especially if they beat OSU, ISU/K-State & OU/Texas to win the Big 12 tournament?
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Conference tourneys are basically meaningless unless you beat someone WAY better than you, or lose to someone way worse than you. So, KU is going to have to hope and pray that the other 1 seed candidates lose to some shitty team in their first game.
Conference tourneys are basically meaningless unless you beat someone WAY better than you, or lose to someone way worse than you. So, KU is going to have to hope and pray that the other 1 seed candidates lose to some shitty team in their first game.
KU is a 2, there isn't anything they can do about it. They're closer to a 3 than a 1. There are too many teams that are fighting for that fourth 1 seed and you really can't expect all of them to lose to teams like Maryland, Clemson, Minnesota, Indiana, and Seton Hall. The committee won't punish a team, for losing in the conference tournament semis and they shouldn't.
Conference tourneys are basically meaningless unless you beat someone WAY better than you, or lose to someone way worse than you. So, KU is going to have to hope and pray that the other 1 seed candidates lose to some shitty team in their first game.
KU is a 2, there isn't anything they can do about it. They're closer to a 3 than a 1. There are too many teams that are fighting for that fourth 1 seed and you really can't expect all of them to lose to teams like Maryland, Clemson, Minnesota, Indiana, and Seton Hall. The committee won't punish a team, for losing in the conference tournament semis and they shouldn't.
And, it may actually matter what the committee thinks about Joel's status. Bill had better be telling anyone who will listen that Joel will be back.
St. Louis doesn't need K-State.Ok. Who's saying that?
http://www.bloguin.com/runthefloor/2014-articles/march/5-teams-with-the-most-to-gain-this-week.html
5 - KANSAS STATE WILDCATS
Plenty of teams in college basketball soar at home but then crash on the road. There's perhaps no better example than Kansas State, which is "Popeye-just-ate-his-spinach" powerful in Bramlage Coliseum (named "The Octagon of Doom") but "Superman-in-the-presence-of-Kryptonite" impotent in Big 12 road games.
Kansas State is somewhere in the vicinity of a 9 seed (give or take a seed line) at the moment. The Wildcats are safely in the field, and what's more is that a lot of critics (this one included; one must admit when one is wrong in this business...) were skeptical of this team's ability to get to the NCAA tournament, given oscar Weber's tenure at Illinois, in which he inherited really good players, won at a high level, and then couldn't sustain that level of success with his own recruiting classes. On Dec. 20, Kansas State was an NIT team, but Weber -- to his great credit -- developed a team that was strong enough to beat almost all of the Big 12's best competitors at home. That was more than enough to get the Cats into the field.
Now, Kansas State arrives at the Big 12 Tournament. These aren't home games, true enough, but they're not pure road games, either. Plenty of KSU fans will be on hand for this event, and with the Wildcats landing in Kansas's half of the bracket, there's a great chance to reach the final, given the health problems plaguing KU big man Joel Embiid. If Kansas State can get hot on a neutral court and win the Big 12 Tournament, it could rise to a 6 seed. At the very least, the team could get out of the 8-9 game and land at a 7, thereby avoiding a No. 1 seed in the round of 32. That's definitely something to play for.
http://www.bloguin.com/runthefloor/2014-articles/march/5-teams-with-the-most-to-gain-this-week.html
5 - KANSAS STATE WILDCATS
Plenty of teams in college basketball soar at home but then crash on the road. There's perhaps no better example than Kansas State, which is "Popeye-just-ate-his-spinach" powerful in Bramlage Coliseum (named "The Octagon of Doom") but "Superman-in-the-presence-of-Kryptonite" impotent in Big 12 road games.
Kansas State is somewhere in the vicinity of a 9 seed (give or take a seed line) at the moment. The Wildcats are safely in the field, and what's more is that a lot of critics (this one included; one must admit when one is wrong in this business...) were skeptical of this team's ability to get to the NCAA tournament, given oscar Weber's tenure at Illinois, in which he inherited really good players, won at a high level, and then couldn't sustain that level of success with his own recruiting classes. On Dec. 20, Kansas State was an NIT team, but Weber -- to his great credit -- developed a team that was strong enough to beat almost all of the Big 12's best competitors at home. That was more than enough to get the Cats into the field.
Now, Kansas State arrives at the Big 12 Tournament. These aren't home games, true enough, but they're not pure road games, either. Plenty of KSU fans will be on hand for this event, and with the Wildcats landing in Kansas's half of the bracket, there's a great chance to reach the final, given the health problems plaguing KU big man Joel Embiid. If Kansas State can get hot on a neutral court and win the Big 12 Tournament, it could rise to a 6 seed. At the very least, the team could get out of the 8-9 game and land at a 7, thereby avoiding a No. 1 seed in the round of 32. That's definitely something to play for.
Too bad we're not even going to get past ISU.
http://www.bloguin.com/runthefloor/2014-articles/march/5-teams-with-the-most-to-gain-this-week.html
5 - KANSAS STATE WILDCATS
Plenty of teams in college basketball soar at home but then crash on the road. There's perhaps no better example than Kansas State, which is "Popeye-just-ate-his-spinach" powerful in Bramlage Coliseum (named "The Octagon of Doom") but "Superman-in-the-presence-of-Kryptonite" impotent in Big 12 road games.
Kansas State is somewhere in the vicinity of a 9 seed (give or take a seed line) at the moment. The Wildcats are safely in the field, and what's more is that a lot of critics (this one included; one must admit when one is wrong in this business...) were skeptical of this team's ability to get to the NCAA tournament, given oscar Weber's tenure at Illinois, in which he inherited really good players, won at a high level, and then couldn't sustain that level of success with his own recruiting classes. On Dec. 20, Kansas State was an NIT team, but Weber -- to his great credit -- developed a team that was strong enough to beat almost all of the Big 12's best competitors at home. That was more than enough to get the Cats into the field.
Now, Kansas State arrives at the Big 12 Tournament. These aren't home games, true enough, but they're not pure road games, either. Plenty of KSU fans will be on hand for this event, and with the Wildcats landing in Kansas's half of the bracket, there's a great chance to reach the final, given the health problems plaguing KU big man Joel Embiid. If Kansas State can get hot on a neutral court and win the Big 12 Tournament, it could rise to a 6 seed. At the very least, the team could get out of the 8-9 game and land at a 7, thereby avoiding a No. 1 seed in the round of 32. That's definitely something to play for.
Too bad we're not even going to get past ISU.
You know what Pat, eff you and your negative ass. At least get creative if you're going to be a jackass.
Oh hi. The luchando naranja y azul pans are going to be on that motherfucking bubble if they win four more in a row! So suck it all you haters who didn't believe because I know who you are and I won't forget. #bubblepoppin
Oh hi. The luchando naranja y azul pans are going to be on that motherfucking bubble if they win four more in a row! So suck it all you haters who didn't believe because I know who you are and I won't forget. #bubblepoppin
Okay bit of a set back there with the historically bad home loss to Michigan, but we're on our way back. Beat IU today. Michigan again! Those fuckers are in for it. Dicks will be kicked off meatchicken bodies at an incredible rate. Maybe that Posse fucko will weigh in here, but once the Breads slap the dicks off Michigan and beat Nubb or the SUCKeyes we are right on that bubble. #nailinthatatlargebid
#bubbthumpin
Oh hi. The luchando naranja y azul pans are going to be on that motherfucking bubble if they win four more in a row! So suck it all you haters who didn't believe because I know who you are and I won't forget. #bubblepoppin
Okay bit of a set back there with the historically bad home loss to Michigan, but we're on our way back. Beat IU today. Michigan again! Those fuckers are in for it. Dicks will be kicked off meatchicken bodies at an incredible rate. Maybe that Posse fucko will weigh in here, but once the Breads slap the dicks off Michigan and beat Nubb or the SUCKeyes we are right on that bubble. #nailinthatatlargebid
#bubbthumpin
So Brad Evans of yahoo sports says the breads are looking "rock solid" for the ncaas if they beat meatchicken. I like the cut of this guy's gib and am very confident in his credentials to make this call. #nailsversusrocks #solids
Oh hi. The luchando naranja y azul pans are going to be on that motherfucking bubble if they win four more in a row! So suck it all you haters who didn't believe because I know who you are and I won't forget. #bubblepoppin
Okay bit of a set back there with the historically bad home loss to Michigan, but we're on our way back. Beat IU today. Michigan again! Those fuckers are in for it. Dicks will be kicked off meatchicken bodies at an incredible rate. Maybe that Posse fucko will weigh in here, but once the Breads slap the dicks off Michigan and beat Nubb or the SUCKeyes we are right on that bubble. #nailinthatatlargebid
#bubbthumpin
So Brad Evans of yahoo sports says the breads are looking "rock solid" for the ncaas if they beat meatchicken. I like the cut of this guy's gib and am very confident in his credentials to make this call. #nailsversusrocks #solids
Sorry Breads. I think it takes more than just beat Michigan. ILL went only 7-11. You have 4 top 50 wins but only Mich St win is a win over a good seeded team (Iowa gonna be a 9, Neb a 10/11 IMO and Minn is out as of now). Big 10 is solid conf and ILL played tough conf sched, but your non con SOS is 182 and only top 100 win in non con is Mizzou
the buffs will stomp our facesI'm gonna stomp your face. :shakesfist:
I want the buffs will stomp our faces
New Palm bracket: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
Would take all the way to an E8 matchup with Duke, because the Shocks want no part of Baylor in the second round. WSU has not seen a team with the size and athleticism of the Bears.
Also, look at the KSU v. Wisconsin second round matchup. The Cats just can't avoid the Badgers.
I would totally fly to milwaukee. Flights are dirt cheap there.
The Seed List
Notes
*** = Teams at No. 41 and better on Seed List considered tournament locks with odds to make the field of 85 percent or higher.
@ = Team is among the Last Four In.
ITALICS = Teams projected to win their conference tournament and automatic bid.
BOLD = Teams that have clinched their conference's automatic bid.
Seed List ordering runs from left to right, then right to left, then left to right.
No. 1 Seeds: 1. Florida | 2. Arizona | 3. Wichita State | 4. Villanova
No. 2: 8. Wisconsin | 7. Duke | 6. Michigan | 5. Kansas
No. 3: 9. Virginia | 10. Syracuse | 11. Creighton | 12. Louisville
No. 4: 16. North Carolina | 15. Cincinnati | 14. San Diego State | 13. Iowa State
No. 5: 17. Michigan State | 18. Ohio State | 19. Oklahoma | 20. Connecticut
No. 6: 24. Texas | 23. VCU | 22. Saint Louis | 21. UCLA
No. 7: 25. Kentucky | 26. New Mexico | 27. Gonzaga | 28. Baylor
No. 8: 32. G. Washington | 31. Memphis | 30. Oregon | 29. Massachusetts
No. 9: 33. Oklahoma State | 34. Colorado | 35. Stanford | 36. Kansas State
No. 10: 40. So. Methodist | 39. Arizona State | 38. Pittsburgh | 37. Iowa
No. 11: 41. Xavier*** | 42. Nebraska | 43. Tennessee | 44. Saint Joseph's@
No. 12: 48. Harvard | 47. Providence@ | 46. Brigham Young@ | 45. Dayton@
No. 12-13 49. La. Tech | 50. N. Dakota St. | 51. Stephen F. Austin | 52. Manhattan
No. 13-14: 56. UC Irvine | 55. Georgia State | 54. Mercer | 53. Delaware
No. 14-15: 57. NC Central | 58. Western Michigan | 59. E. Kentucky | 60. American
No. 15-16: 64. Weber State | 63. Stony Brook | 62. Utah Valley | 61. Milwaukee
No. 16: 65. Wofford | 66. Mt. St. Mary's | 67. Coastal Carolina | 68. Ala. State
First Four Out: 72. Arkansas | 71. Southern Miss | 70. Florida State | 69. Minnesota
Next Four Out: 73. California | 74. Missouri | 75. St. John's | 76. Green Bay
The bubble (15 teams for 6 spots)
IN (6, in S curve order): 42. Nebraska, 43. Tennessee, 44. Saint Joseph's, 45. Dayton, 46. Brigham Young, 47. Providence
OUT (9, in S curve order): 69. Minnesota, 70. Florida St, 71. Southern Miss, 72. Arkansas, 73. California, 74. Missouri, 75. St. John's, 76. Green Bay, 77. Georgia
FWIW, Lundardi from this morning:QuoteThe Seed List
Notes
*** = Teams at No. 41 and better on Seed List considered tournament locks with odds to make the field of 85 percent or higher.
@ = Team is among the Last Four In.
ITALICS = Teams projected to win their conference tournament and automatic bid.
BOLD = Teams that have clinched their conference's automatic bid.
Seed List ordering runs from left to right, then right to left, then left to right.
No. 1 Seeds: 1. Florida | 2. Arizona | 3. Wichita State | 4. Villanova
No. 2: 8. Wisconsin | 7. Duke | 6. Michigan | 5. Kansas
No. 3: 9. Virginia | 10. Syracuse | 11. Creighton | 12. Louisville
No. 4: 16. North Carolina | 15. Cincinnati | 14. San Diego State | 13. Iowa State
No. 5: 17. Michigan State | 18. Ohio State | 19. Oklahoma | 20. Connecticut
No. 6: 24. Texas | 23. VCU | 22. Saint Louis | 21. UCLA
No. 7: 25. Kentucky | 26. New Mexico | 27. Gonzaga | 28. Baylor
No. 8: 32. G. Washington | 31. Memphis | 30. Oregon | 29. Massachusetts
No. 9: 33. Oklahoma State | 34. Colorado | 35. Stanford | 36. Kansas State
No. 10: 40. So. Methodist | 39. Arizona State | 38. Pittsburgh | 37. Iowa
No. 11: 41. Xavier*** | 42. Nebraska | 43. Tennessee | 44. Saint Joseph's@
No. 12: 48. Harvard | 47. Providence@ | 46. Brigham Young@ | 45. Dayton@
No. 12-13 49. La. Tech | 50. N. Dakota St. | 51. Stephen F. Austin | 52. Manhattan
No. 13-14: 56. UC Irvine | 55. Georgia State | 54. Mercer | 53. Delaware
No. 14-15: 57. NC Central | 58. Western Michigan | 59. E. Kentucky | 60. American
No. 15-16: 64. Weber State | 63. Stony Brook | 62. Utah Valley | 61. Milwaukee
No. 16: 65. Wofford | 66. Mt. St. Mary's | 67. Coastal Carolina | 68. Ala. State
First Four Out: 72. Arkansas | 71. Southern Miss | 70. Florida State | 69. Minnesota
Next Four Out: 73. California | 74. Missouri | 75. St. John's | 76. Green Bay
The bubble (15 teams for 6 spots)
IN (6, in S curve order): 42. Nebraska, 43. Tennessee, 44. Saint Joseph's, 45. Dayton, 46. Brigham Young, 47. Providence
OUT (9, in S curve order): 69. Minnesota, 70. Florida St, 71. Southern Miss, 72. Arkansas, 73. California, 74. Missouri, 75. St. John's, 76. Green Bay, 77. Georgia
Oh hi. The luchando naranja y azul pans are going to be on that motherfucking bubble if they win four more in a row! So suck it all you haters who didn't believe because I know who you are and I won't forget. #bubblepoppin
Okay bit of a set back there with the historically bad home loss to Michigan, but we're on our way back. Beat IU today. Michigan again! Those fuckers are in for it. Dicks will be kicked off meatchicken bodies at an incredible rate. Maybe that Posse fucko will weigh in here, but once the Breads slap the dicks off Michigan and beat Nubb or the SUCKeyes we are right on that bubble. #nailinthatatlargebid
#bubbthumpin
So Brad Evans of yahoo sports says the breads are looking "rock solid" for the ncaas if they beat meatchicken. I like the cut of this guy's gib and am very confident in his credentials to make this call. #nailsversusrocks #solids
Sorry Breads. I think it takes more than just beat Michigan. ILL went only 7-11. You have 4 top 50 wins but only Mich St win is a win over a good seeded team (Iowa gonna be a 9, Neb a 10/11 IMO and Minn is out as of now). Big 10 is solid conf and ILL played tough conf sched, but your non con SOS is 182 and only top 100 win in non con is Mizzou
pfft, I bet you every dollar I got that Iowa won't be a 9. They have lost 6 of their last 7.
Hey Bread what's it like to not make the tournament?
Hey Bread what's it like to not make the tournament?
You are in for the mushing of a lifetime.
Hey Bread what's it like to not make the tournament?
You are in for the mushing of a lifetime.
I didn't mean this year, I meant in year's past.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketologywe will end up in the midwest, us and the shockers sitting in a tree
DO. NOT. WANT.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketologywe will end up in the midwest, us and the shockers sitting in a tree
DO. NOT. WANT.
Why have we been knocked out of St. Louis? Just curious. I admittedly have no idea how any of this works.
Why have we been knocked out of St. Louis? Just curious. I admittedly have no idea how any of this works.
There isn't a set way that this works. No one has a clue where the committee is going to put certain teams.
you dont think that ksu playing wsu in the round of 32 or whatever its called now has some value to the committee? ratings broWhy have we been knocked out of St. Louis? Just curious. I admittedly have no idea how any of this works.
There isn't a set way that this works. No one has a clue where the committee is going to put certain teams.
We might be the lowest, or tied for lowest, seeded Big 12 team.
barreling ahead for a 10/7 game with whisky as the 2. that kind of makes it look like we're a bubble-ish team, or not quite the lock we thought?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg31%2F2619%2Fyt02.png&hash=d07aa1af33a11b5f05cfe56a76512136e3a141c7)Oregon and Colorado are the only teams on here that I won't want to play. Brice would coach Pastern in to a box.
Would you look at that: Danny Manning has Tulsa in the tournament in year 2. Former big 12 assistants are doing great this year.
yes he isWould you look at that: Danny Manning has Tulsa in the tournament in year 2. Former big 12 assistants are doing great this year.
Frank's not. :)
No, he's not.yes he isWould you look at that: Danny Manning has Tulsa in the tournament in year 2. Former big 12 assistants are doing great this year.
Frank's not. :)
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology)
haha no, let's just not
When does Lunardi start leaking the actual bracket?
If we are the fourth 9, it's really going to suck, guys. We will have to play Florida in Orlando. That's great for Winters, and a handful of affluent Cats with kids, but man, short tourney.
Ca we still get St. Louis?!!
Some chatter about KU dropping to a 3 seed on national sports talk radio today.
i don't think we would beat st louis.
http://www.sbnation.com/2014/3/16/5514246/bracketology-2014-ncaa-basketball-bubble-florida-arizona-michigan
Not bad, except for being in New York. I have no fear of St. Louis and Villanova is the weakest 2 seed. Lil' brother would skate straight to the Final 4.
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Guys in my heart I know we are in St. Louis playing in the 8/9 game with wichita state as the 1 seed. I just know it.
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Guys in my heart I know we are in St. Louis playing in the 8/9 game with wichita state as the 1 seed. I just know it.
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Some chatter about KU dropping to a 3 seed on national sports talk radio today.
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
I bet you they're close. I can't get my mind off of Selection Sunday, so it's helping me to pass the time.
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
I bet you they're close. I can't get my mind off of Selection Sunday, so it's helping me to pass the time.
They might be close in terms of seeding but not matchups.
Opponents isn't completely absurd - They are loosely based on geography which can determine a lot.
Hey guys, we should call michigancat "funhatercat". Get it, because he hates fun?
Hey guys, we should call michigancat "funhatercat". Get it, because he hates fun?
no, this is fun. Here's my matchup breakdown. The seven seed we're playing doesn't seem much better than us, I think we can win! I mean they played in a weaker conference, lmao. but that game against the two seed, man, do not want. they're really good and will provably have lots of fans since it's close to their place. Madness!
K-State is somewhat likely to matchup with WSU in the second round.
Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 7m
Lunardi gets inside info on today. He just switched Memphis to an 8 vs. K-State in St. Louis. Think there's a good chance KSU in St. Louis
Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 7m
Lunardi gets inside info on today. He just switched Memphis to an 8 vs. K-State in St. Louis. Think there's a good chance KSU in St. Louis
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
The real question is why the hell do you care if people enjoy it? Seems pretty weird that you are concerned at all with people enjoying tournament projections and bracket seeding prognostications.
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
The real question is why the hell do you care if people enjoy it? Seems pretty weird that you are concerned at all with people enjoying tournament projections and bracket seeding prognostications.
I think learning why humans do what they do is very interesting.
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
The real question is why the hell do you care if people enjoy it? Seems pretty weird that you are concerned at all with people enjoying tournament projections and bracket seeding prognostications.
I think learning why humans do what they do is very interesting.
Yeah, maybe, except that's not what you are trying to accomplish here.
Why do you people analyze these fake brackets? Honest question.
Because it's fun.
what makes it fun? You know the actual matchups won't be close to any of these, don't you?
The real question is why the hell do you care if people enjoy it? Seems pretty weird that you are concerned at all with people enjoying tournament projections and bracket seeding prognostications.
I think learning why humans do what they do is very interesting.
Yeah, maybe, except that's not what you are trying to accomplish here.
yes it is
I've already broken down all 7/8/9/10 teams on film. We will beat all of them :cheers:
They're small as well, with good, physical guards.
They're small as well, with good, physical guards.
Coach looks very young doesn't know x's and o's
Play in a pro arena so the players are all flashy and 1 types
Play in a pro arena so the players are all flashy and 1 types
Play in a pro arena so the players are all flashy and 1 types
Baggy pants, no real offense at all, just alot of one on one.
Michigan State looks legit. Shocking.
K-State is somewhat likely to matchup with WSU in the second round.
Why?
Michigan State looks legit. Shocking. Sucks for the region that gets them as their 3
Why is Louisville being seeded as a 3 in every mock bracket I've seen? Only 5 losses, all to ranked teams if I remember correctly, and they just won the American League tournament with ease.
I guess this question is directed at Powercat Posse.
K-State is somewhat likely to matchup with WSU in the second round.
Why?
Wichita is 90% going to St. Louis as the one there to keep them as close to home as possible. KSU is a potential 8/9 seed. With St Louis holding an 8/9 game because Wichita is playing there, KSU would be a decent fit to be close to home. Memphis playing us there in the first round would keep them fairly close as well. NCAA sells out of tix quickly
Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
Why is Louisville being seeded as a 3 in every mock bracket I've seen? Only 5 losses, all to ranked teams if I remember correctly, and they just won the American League tournament with ease.
I guess this question is directed at Powercat Posse.
Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
KU and WSU will start in St. Louis. That's good enough geography-wise. The filler teams that will also play in St. Louis may be close or may not but it won't really matter.
Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
Why?Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
crap. I would bet that we would be one of the first games to play on Thursday. Screw that.
florida is the 1 seed that we want to facelol. No.
florida is the 1 seed that we want to facelol. No.
please let us play florida next weekendoscar is in Billy Donovan's head too
please let us play florida next weekend
Does anyone have a stream for Selection Sunday?
I know carnes is trolling, but Florida is stacked w/ seniors and depth. We'd get skull mumped.
Why?Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
crap. I would bet that we would be one of the first games to play on Thursday. Screw that.
Michigan went 17-4 in all its game in the Big 10 (counting tourney). Virginia went 19-2 in all games vs ACC.
Mich's conf SOS was ranked 7th hardest coming into today. Virg was 87th
Mich had 7 wins over Big 10 teams in top 50 who are in tourney. Beat rpi 54 iowa who is in tourney. Beat rpi 50 Minn twice (I think Minn is out)
Virg had 5 wins over top 50 team in ACC who are in the tourney
Mich lost 4 games in non con. best win is Stanford rpi 42
Virg lost 4 games in non con. Best win is SMU rpi 55
Michigan > Virginia ... when speaking of who should get the last 1 seed
Lunardi now has Virg as the last 1 seed
Why?Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
crap. I would bet that we would be one of the first games to play on Thursday. Screw that.
I like late afternoon or evening games.
Why?Cole Manbeck ?@Cole_Manbeck 2m
Lunardi's bracket is jumping all over the place despite no games today impacting some of these moves. K-State now a 10 seed in Buffalo
crap. I would bet that we would be one of the first games to play on Thursday. Screw that.
I like late afternoon or evening games.
Morning gives you an excuse to start drinking and then if/when we win, you get to party all afternoon and watch other teams.
Underwood v. Manning?
Remember when they used to care about us :frown:
lol@ isu fans who thought they were going to get the 2 in st louis over ku
ou a 5? baylor a 6? weird
ou a 5? baylor a 6? weird
ou a 5? baylor a 6? weird
why weird?
this is so awesome
we'll probably be prime time right?
i've never been this excited for a first round gamethis. I really didn't care until hearing it was Kentucky
Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
We have a 0% chance of beating Kentucky.
Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? Wtf
Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? Wtf
Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
We have a 0% chance of beating Kentucky.
Not sure its even that high.
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They played like crap down the stretch. Nice tourney run. Their wins were weak in conference.Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
No, too low. I thought they'd be a 6 or 7.
no way a seed was higher than you thought it would be? Crazy stuff and you heard it here first folksCan someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
No, too low. I thought they'd be a 6 or 7.
We have a 0% chance of beating Kentucky.
Not sure its even that high.
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Mods can we ban dumbasses like this for the week, they are going to ruin the good BBing
Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
No, too low. I thought they'd be a 6 or 7.
Seven is a documented dumbass, the WSU game will be at 6 and our game will be at 8:30
Our inside game is going to get raped on Friday.This. Wife and I were talking match ups. Purple Cats are dwarfed by the blue cats.
Our inside game is going to get raped on Friday.
They played like crap down the stretch. Nice tourney run. Their wins were weak in conference.Can someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
No, too low. I thought they'd be a 6 or 7.
Do you disagree?Our inside game is going to get raped on Friday.
You pick now for this crap? You're hustlin backwards dude.
no way a seed was higher than you thought it would be? Crazy stuff and you heard it here first folksCan someone explain to me how Kentucky is an 8 seed? WtfDo you think it's too high?
No, too low. I thought they'd be a 6 or 7.
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So Mizzou lol
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the WSU game will be at 6 and our game will be at 8:30
Michigancat was right, a very winnable game followed by a very difficult one.
poor Nick RussellSo Mizzou lol
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they have been off of the bubble for 2 weeks
No SMU tho :surprised:
OMichigancat was right, a very winnable game followed by a very difficult one.
he nailed it. mods, change his name to bracketscat.
Julius Randle, Dakorey Johnson, Cauley-Stein............. :runaway:
They like to stand around and look at each other. Just like our boys do during their scoreless skids. The interior match up is still a nightmare for KState.Julius Randle, Dakorey Johnson, Cauley-Stein............. :runaway:
They lost @ South Carolina. Was Kentucky bluebloods at full strength ??
You think Frank will send oscar game tape?
I've got 5 extra tickets in 107 BB for session 1 which I assume we will be scheduled in. As much as I would love to make a killing by selling to a KState or UK fan, I would rather sit by WSU fans. PM me if you're interested. 100 each which is cheaper than you will find anywhere else.
Thx mir
smu got jobbed
I'm trying to get Emawblast to come w/ me. I need a partner in crime for this trip. Cancel out flight fare and this is a cheap trip.Thx mir
I just realized, there is no way that we will play in session 1, so don't buy those tickets unless you want to sell them to a squawk, in that case, buy them
Doug made it right :D
Doug made it right :D
Missed it, what'd he say?
Trim did the opposite of nailing it.
Who knows st louis? Help me call a hotel close, plz!
Who knows st louis? Help me call a hotel close, plz!Stay in Illinois. It's ghetto cheap.
http://kentucky.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=1383&tid=199330207&mid=199330207&sid=888&style=2
On paper, we shouldn't have a lot of problems, but if it was played on paper, it would have to be a really big piece of paper.:lol:
You thought your alum was unworthy of top matchups :lol:Trim did the opposite of nailing it.
I'm sure I'll regret engaging you, but how so?
You thought your alum was unworthy of top matchups :lol:Trim did the opposite of nailing it.
I'm sure I'll regret engaging you, but how so?
Who knows st louis? Help me call a hotel close, plz!
Who knows st louis? Help me call a hotel close, plz!
West End is cool....downtown is pretty meh.
Who knows st louis? Help me call a hotel close, plz!
West End is cool....downtown is pretty meh.
the transportation is pretty good so don't worry too much about hotel location as long as it is close to the train lines.
Guys, I am going to go out on a limb and say KState is the last 8 seed (#32 on the overall ranking). I could see us being anywhere from 32 to 36....but will be very surprised if we are a 10 seed.
If we get that 8, I think we will likely play a Pac 10 team. If we get a 9 seed then I would guess we get Memphis or UMass. I think our chances of being in St Louis are pretty good. Anyway.... here is what I got
1 seeds = 1. Florida 2. Arizona 3. Wich St 4. Michigan
2 seeds = 5. Nova 6. Wisconsin 7. Virginia 8. KU
3 seeds = 9. Iowa St 10. Duke 11. Lville 12. Syracuse
4 seeds = 13. Crieghton 14. Mich St 15. Cincy 16. SD St
5 seeds = 17. Ucla 18. N Carolina 19. UConn 20. OU
6 seeds = 21. VCU 22. N Mexico 23. Ohio St 24. SLU
7 seeds = 25. Kentucky 26. Baylor 27. Texas 28. Oregon
8 seeds = 29. UMass 30. G Wash 31. Memphis 32. KState
9 seeds = 33. Gonz 34. Ok St 35. Stanford 36. Colorado
10 seeds = 37. Iowa 38. St Joe 39. Pitt 40. Ariz St
11 seeds = 41. Nebraska 42. Tenn 43 Prov
Last 4 teams in = SMU, Xavier, Dayton, BYU
I've enjoyed you and _FAN's bracket posts these past few weeks, PP.
PowercatPosse, good job on your efforts. I enjoyed them a lot.
How in the actual rough ridin' did Baylor get a 6?
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How in the actual rough ridin' did Baylor get a 6?
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After the protected 1-4 seeds, the committee moves teams around because of several factors (avoiding conference matchups, avoiding 2nd round rematches, keeping teams close to home, etc.)
Am I the only one that thinks it is odd to have three play in games for the same region? Or have I just never noticed this before.
Obviously WSU got a very tough region and draw, but the committee did not have some conspiracy to knock them out of the tournament.
There is always a top seed every year who has a ridiculous draw, there is a reason every year people try to find the "region of death". WSU wanted to be treated like a top dog, well welcome to the party Shocks.
Obviously WSU got a very tough region and draw, but the committee did not have some conspiracy to knock them out of the tournament.
There is always a top seed every year who has a ridiculous draw, there is a reason every year people try to find the "region of death". WSU wanted to be treated like a top dog, well welcome to the party Shocks.
yup, welcome to the party shocks just leave your keys with the DD and grab yourself a red solo cup b/c it's time to play some beer pong right now and then prob do some crazy crap like jump off the roof into the pool. b/c that is where you're at now shocks, it's time to play the big boy game and none of this school yard crap. come bring your a game shocks. of course you are now scared and walking away shocks b/c you don't have big boy stones gmafb shocks, get out of here with your weak crap.
shocks = ketchup
k-state = shrimp cocktail sauce with tons of horseradish
BRING IT.
Kentucky was 29th overall seed. N Mexico was 28th. Had those 2 been switched. We could have been playing N Mexico. And UK could have been a 7 seed with 2 seed KU
KState was the 33rd overall seed. Colorado was 32. So we could have been the 8 seed playing Pitt with 1 seed FLA lurking, and CU could have been playing UK in the 8 vs 9 game in St Louis
Pitt definitely easier game than UK, but I am glad we are not in Fla bracket
You can see overall rankings on here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament
You can see overall rankings on here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament
are those rankings official?
the eff, lunardi?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
the eff, lunardi?Man he is completely off his rocker, he has Tulsa ahead of Cincinnati. :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
the eff, lunardi?Man he is completely off his rocker, he has Tulsa ahead of Cincinnati. :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
I assume he doesn't use computer projections, computers should loves us for what little we lose.
:nono: gonna be tough replacing Sprads production apparently.
the eff, lunardi?
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
I can see why people care what Joey Brackets thinks about in Feb and March. No clue why anyone gives a crap what he thinks about 2nd week in April.
Because Joey Brackets perception of teams reflects ESPN's so that has something to do with how each team will be covered leading up to the season? :dunno:
because telling lunardi to eff off feels like, super good
Wisky in the 2nd round.. sounds about right.
It's going to happen this year. Line up fools. I'll put down a 6 pack bet on it.Wisky in the 2nd round.. sounds about right.
Lol that we would win a Ro64 game
Wisky in the 2nd round.. sounds about right.
Lol that we would win a Ro64 game
Beat ISU and Okie Lite this week, should bump us up at least. Gonna lose my dhit though if we end up as an 8 or 9 this year.
Co-11 seed with NC State in the East...
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
:alleyoop:
Co-11 seed with NC State in the East...
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
:alleyoop:
We would go to the E8 in that bracket
Co-11 seed with NC State in the East...
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
:alleyoop:
they weren't going to make it anyway.This cancels out an upset to them in the 2nd round of the NIT. :excited:
One less team to worry about! :Woohoo:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12280636/syracuse-basketball-team-self-imposes-postseason-ban-year-response-ncaa-investigation (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12280636/syracuse-basketball-team-self-imposes-postseason-ban-year-response-ncaa-investigation)
they weren't going to make it anyway.This cancels out an upset to them in the 2nd round of the NIT. :excited:
One less team to worry about! :Woohoo:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12280636/syracuse-basketball-team-self-imposes-postseason-ban-year-response-ncaa-investigation (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12280636/syracuse-basketball-team-self-imposes-postseason-ban-year-response-ncaa-investigation)
boeheim reportedly charged darryl gross and wanted to fight him when the decision was made. the question is, does he now quit, take his ball, and go coach at mississippi state?
https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/567563196232663040LOL
https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/567563196232663040
Yeah, knocking off TCU and winning 3 of the 4 of @BAY, @TEX, KU, and ISU is a stretch. But it'd be great.https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/567563196232663040
Be butthurt all you want but a. That was stud answer and b. He's got a valid point.
Yeah, knocking off TCU and winning 3 of the 4 of @BAY, @TEX, KU, and ISU is a stretch. But it'd be great.https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/567563196232663040
Be butthurt all you want but a. That was stud answer and b. He's got a valid point.
A real question to be asking, is do we still have a shot at the NIT? I think barring a freak winning streak we are hitting combo season early this year.
Yeah, knocking off TCU and winning 3 of the 4 of @BAY, @TEX, KU, and ISU is a stretch. But it'd be great.https://twitter.com/espnlunardi/status/567563196232663040
Be butthurt all you want but a. That was stud answer and b. He's got a valid point.
A real question to be asking, is do we still have a shot at the NIT? I think barring a freak winning streak we are hitting combo season early this year.
0 thru 2/5 No NIT 3/5 NIT 4/5 NCAA
i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
even 4/5 and a loss in KC means 15 total losses, can DeBruce make history?i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
I won't until we have the first two secured with a chance to get 3 or 4. Call it pessimist, but I am done being let down by this team.
Villanova 1991 16 14 .533 Georgia 2001 16 14 .533 Kansas State 1990 17 14 .548 Villanova 1990 18 14 .563 Arizona 2008 19 14 .576 LSU 1987 21 14 .600 LSU 1988 16 13 .552 |
even 4/5 and a loss in KC means 15 total losses, can DeBruce make history?i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
I won't until we have the first two secured with a chance to get 3 or 4. Call it pessimist, but I am done being let down by this team.
Most losses for at-large teams (since 1985)
Team Year Won Lost Pct.http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/history/atlarge (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/history/atlarge)
Villanova 1991 16 14 .533
Georgia 2001 16 14 .533
Kansas State 1990 17 14 .548
Villanova 1990 18 14 .563
Arizona 2008 19 14 .576
LSU 1987 21 14 .600
LSU 1988 16 13 .552
I would say the most optimistic scenario short of just winning out the regular season or winning the P66 is finishing 6th thereby avoiding KU until the championship game and hopefully WVU.even 4/5 and a loss in KC means 15 total losses, can DeBruce make history?i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
I won't until we have the first two secured with a chance to get 3 or 4. Call it pessimist, but I am done being let down by this team.
Most losses for at-large teams (since 1985)
Team Year Won Lost Pct.http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/history/atlarge (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/ncaa-tournament/history/atlarge)
Villanova 1991 16 14 .533
Georgia 2001 16 14 .533
Kansas State 1990 17 14 .548
Villanova 1990 18 14 .563
Arizona 2008 19 14 .576
LSU 1987 21 14 .600
LSU 1988 16 13 .552
There were also 5 teams that received at large bids with 14 losses in 2011. Weird that they weren't included. Tennessee even got a 9 seed at 19-14.
Regardless, no team has ever gotten in with 15 losses. If we only lose two more games including the P66 we could be the first.
What the eff is going on in here?steffy has hacked everyone simultaneously
LOL at all this. we're losing tonight.that is exactly why I am enjoying this little window right now
What the eff is going on in here?steffy has hacked everyone simultaneously
LOL at all this. we're losing tonight.(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthe-mainboard.com%2Fstyles%2Fdefault%2Fxenforo%2Feastereggs%2Facc.gif&hash=ae03f73b02fe8bb85a6190b1a64fcfd725388897)
i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
i can't believe i'm allowing myself to consider the possibility.
idiot
Anyone still give a crap enough to look up what oscar's road record is the last 2 years?
All we have to do is win the Big 12 tourney, _FAN.
Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane.
ok guys, this is pretty stupid but this blog has been going down hill for a while so i figure what the hell.
beat ISU
beat Texas
16-15 (9-9) at end of regular season
big 12 tourney
beat Tech (10 seed)
beat Iowa St (2 seed)
lose in Champ. game
finish 18-15 (11-10) after big 12 tourney
wins over (current RPI)
A&M (34)
OU x2, (16)
Baylor (14)
KU (1)
Okla St (29)
Iowa St x2 (9)
Texas (40)
that's 9 wins over top 50 RPI
do we make the tourney in this scenario?
ok guys, this is pretty stupid but this blog has been going down hill for a while so i figure what the hell.
beat ISU
beat Texas
16-15 (9-9) at end of regular season
big 12 tourney
beat Tech (10 seed)
beat Iowa St (2 seed)
lose in Champ. game
finish 18-15 (11-10) after big 12 tourney
wins over (current RPI)
A&M (34)
OU x2, (16)
Baylor (14)
KU (1)
Okla St (29)
Iowa St x2 (9)
Texas (40)
that's 9 wins over top 50 RPI
do we make the tourney in this scenario?
Yes we do
Cats have to kill it in KC in order to get into the dance
I'm so tired of seeing Wichita State in these brackets. They're rough ridin' 5-4 with some bad losses. Yes, their PG was out, but JFC, everyone humps their dicks.
I'm so tired of seeing Wichita State in these brackets. They're rough ridin' 5-4 with some bad losses. Yes, their PG was out, but JFC, everyone humps their dicks.
That's fine and all, but they're stupid and have stupid faces and I hate them. All of their "big wins" have been at home.I'm so tired of seeing Wichita State in these brackets. They're rough ridin' 5-4 with some bad losses. Yes, their PG was out, but JFC, everyone humps their dicks.
They put Utah away pretty handily. Their schedule is pretty light here on out, so I can't see more than a couple losses. So a 9 seed seems about right.
12 seed!!!!! :surprised:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology)
That's fine and all, but they're stupid and have stupid faces and I hate them. All of their "big wins" have been at home.I'm so tired of seeing Wichita State in these brackets. They're rough ridin' 5-4 with some bad losses. Yes, their PG was out, but JFC, everyone humps their dicks.
They put Utah away pretty handily. Their schedule is pretty light here on out, so I can't see more than a couple losses. So a 9 seed seems about right.
Oh, still... :curse:That's fine and all, but they're stupid and have stupid faces and I hate them. All of their "big wins" have been at home.I'm so tired of seeing Wichita State in these brackets. They're rough ridin' 5-4 with some bad losses. Yes, their PG was out, but JFC, everyone humps their dicks.
They put Utah away pretty handily. Their schedule is pretty light here on out, so I can't see more than a couple losses. So a 9 seed seems about right.
He has them in as the conference champion not an at large.
Listed as the first team left out on CBS.Seriously?
Confirmed. A win today and we are in. !!!Listed as the first team left out on CBS.Seriously?
Confirmed. A win today and we are in. !!!Listed as the first team left out on CBS.Seriously?
will a loss do it too?
and lol at ku being matched up with duke/wich st
and lol at ku being matched up with duke/wich st
I couldn't handle living here in Wichita with another lead up to that game. Would be beyond unbearable again.
I couldn't handle living here in Wichita with another lead up to that game. Would be beyond unbearable again.
That bbq tho! :lol:I couldn't handle living here in Wichita with another lead up to that game. Would be beyond unbearable again.
Just living in Wichita in general seems like it would be unbearable.
That bbq tho! :lol:I couldn't handle living here in Wichita with another lead up to that game. Would be beyond unbearable again.
Just living in Wichita in general seems like it would be unbearable.
We're really going to want back a victory vs Baylor or WVU. crap, even UNC.
Win our remaining home games (OU, Bay, Tex, KU, and TCU) and somehow manage to win just one away game most likely against OSU, TCU, or Tech.... Then we are in!!!!
Win our remaining home games (OU, Bay, Tex, KU, and TCU) and somehow manage to win just one away game most likely against OSU, TCU, or Tech.... Then we are in!!!!
LOL, is that all? No problem!
NIT! NIT! NIT!
oscar is going to win a game or two that he has no business winning, it happens
not saying that the ku game in lawrence is going to be one of those wins, but we should all expect it to happen at some point each season
oscar has a Wooly team +1 good win and + 1 bad loss
I think we'll finish 17-14 (6-12) at worst.
on one hand, i think we'll be pretty good next year but i know oscar struggles with player development and i temper my expectation.I think we'll finish 17-14 (6-12) at worst.
Rinse and repeat for next year :frown:
on one hand, i think we'll be pretty good next year but i know oscar struggles with player development and i temper my expectation.I think we'll finish 17-14 (6-12) at worst.
Rinse and repeat for next year :frown:
even taking that into account i think we'll be better
oscar has a Wooly team +1 good win and + 1 bad loss
We'll see how this year finishes, but oscar generally has many more quality wins (Top 50). Each of his first 3 seasons, oscar had at least 7 top 50 kenpom wins and at least 3 vs the Top 25. Wooly never had more than 3 Top 50 kenpom wins in any season and had a total of 2 Top 25 wins his last 5 seasons.
Comparing bad losses has been somewhat similar, but Wooly was still worse. Wooly had seasons with only 2 bad losses (rated 100 or worse kenpom), but also multiple seasons with 4 and his last season had 7. oscar had 3 bad losses last year and 2 the year before.
oscar is frustrating and last year was terrible, but he's not even close to being as bad as Wooly. This year has been weird so far because oscar has no top 50 wins (best win kenpom 56 Tech), but no bad losses either (worst loss kenpom 29 Baylor), which is really the definition of mediocre.
I give oscar very little credit for the first year here. I picture him of just now settling into a Wooly like groove which involves bringing in young players and hoping fans mistake minutes/opportunity for quality.
on one hand, i think we'll be pretty good next year but i know oscar struggles with player development and i temper my expectation.I think we'll finish 17-14 (6-12) at worst.
Rinse and repeat for next year :frown:
even taking that into account i think we'll be better
I agree, but I've got to see some roster stability in the off season (anyone leaving besides Freeman will be a concern) to go along with your concern about development. Losing Edwards and Hurt won't be huge and oscar is adding a pretty good player in Xavier Sneed. Plus Williams/Maurice.
If next season isn't a tournament team oscar should be done.
Edwards was leading most of our stat categories up until conf season started. I am not a fan, but this team would be much worse off, record wise, without him.
I give oscar very little credit for the first year here. I picture him of just now settling into a Wooly like groove which involves bringing in young players and hoping fans mistake minutes/opportunity for quality.
That's fair. FWIW, even his last 6 years at Illinois, he averaged 5 Top 50 wins and 1.5 worse than 100 losses.
He's way more annoying, but his coaching record is much, much better than Wooly. Its not even close really, even with "his own" teams.
on one hand, i think we'll be pretty good next year but i know oscar struggles with player development and i temper my expectation.I think we'll finish 17-14 (6-12) at worst.
Rinse and repeat for next year :frown:
even taking that into account i think we'll be better
I agree, but I've got to see some roster stability in the off season (anyone leaving besides Freeman will be a concern) to go along with your concern about development. Losing Edwards and Hurt won't be huge and oscar is adding a pretty good player in Xavier Sneed. Plus Williams/Maurice.
If next season isn't a tournament team oscar should be done.
Edwards was leading most of our stat categories up until conf season started. I am not a fan, but this team would be much worse off, record wise, without him.
I give oscar very little credit for the first year here. I picture him of just now settling into a Wooly like groove which involves bringing in young players and hoping fans mistake minutes/opportunity for quality.
That's fair. FWIW, even his last 6 years at Illinois, he averaged 5 Top 50 wins and 1.5 worse than 100 losses.
He's way more annoying, but his coaching record is much, much better than Wooly. Its not even close really, even with "his own" teams.
His talent level is WAY down here though, so does that change the equation going forward?
I give oscar very little credit for the first year here. I picture him of just now settling into a Wooly like groove which involves bringing in young players and hoping fans mistake minutes/opportunity for quality.
That's fair. FWIW, even his last 6 years at Illinois, he averaged 5 Top 50 wins and 1.5 worse than 100 losses.
He's way more annoying, but his coaching record is much, much better than Wooly. Its not even close really, even with "his own" teams.
His talent level is WAY down here though, so does that change the equation going forward?
Its actually not that much different. From 04 to 08 he was getting 1 four star a year mixed with mainly 3 stars, similar to what he is doing here. The last couple years before he got fired he actually was doing better and pulled in 9 four star players in the 09 through 11 classes.
He was able to recruit real P5 post players at Illinois. So far he has given us the Big Meat brigade and Claws. I mean, DJamer is the best big he can claim after 4 years :(You can't claim that yet, since we don't know how the two bigs are that he brought in this year. We can't help they got the bubonic plaque.
In that six year period, 09-11 makes up half that time period, and as you pointed out they had plenty of 4* kids in those three years. The three years before that he was signing three star kids that had multiple P5 offers (the vast majority of them anyway). Most of our three star guys have 0-1 P5 offers. Now, it may not make a bunch of difference in the on-court results, but I think his Illinois teams were distinctly more talented than his teams here.
Is RPI still an important thing? If so, what is ours. Cats.Yes and #35! http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology So close
Is RPI still an important thing? If so, what is ours. Cats.Yes and #35! http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
With where we're at, i think 2 or 3 more top 50 RPI wins and no bad loses would put us on the right side of the bubble. 68 teams go dancing, we don't actually have to be good, just look that way.Is RPI still an important thing? If so, what is ours. Cats.Yes and #35! http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
Its not as simple as that; our RPI doesn't really matter.
Our wins against the RPI Top 50 do matter. Right now we are 1-9, so we have a lot of work to do. I'd guess with no bad losses, we probably need at least 5 Top 50 wins.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Lunardi!! :shakesfist:
Good points.
Its dangerous to compare to other seasons, but last year's OSU was 4-10 vs the RPI Top 50. Texas was 3-12. Both finished 8-10 in the league and made the tournament.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Lunardi!! :shakesfist:
Frank vs. ku :popcorn:
If you think about it, the committee has to find 36 at large teams to fill out the field. and every year a handful of average teams get in. This year two more average teams are getting in since SMU and Louisville (both of which would be locks) are banned from the tournament.
The First Four will be four teams that are even more mediocre than usual this year.
win 2 of 4 of bu, ku, isu and ut. also don't lose all the games against osu, tcu and tech. that's all it takes.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2016/02/08/ncaa-tournament-teams-on-the-bubble-kansas-state-lsu-indiana-wisconsin-gonzaga-wichita-state/80003324/?hootPostID=7f0dc3872b04b2531bc63814bb5c04ea
win 2 of 4 of bu, ku, isu and ut. also don't lose all the games against osu, tcu and tech. that's all it takes.
2-2 and 3-1 probably does it. That will likely require at least 2 road wins.
I'm not sure why wsu is getting any love. Their resume is the epitome of mediocrity
Next Four Out
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/maryland-terrapins-iowa-villanova-latest-ncaa-mock-bracket-020916
Man, the internet would be too damn good.http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Lunardi!! :shakesfist:
Frank vs. ku :popcorn:
Self will look really good in the clownsuit Frank has tailored for him.
Being on the bubble of being on the bubble is just killing all of those oscar haters.
55. Kansas State Wildcats
The Wildcats have been close, then finally broke through and beat then-No. 1 Oklahoma in Manhattan. Kansas State had lost seven of 10 heading into the game with the top-rated Sooners, and lost four of those games by double digits. The Wildcats have been turning the ball over, ranking 10th in the Big 12 in turnover rate.
Mods please lock this thread. LOL at us :lol:
Just how good is the Big 12? Beat the worst team in the conference and you are suddenly back in the discussion of being on the periphery of the bubble.
Feels good guys. :cool:
Just how good is the Big 12? Beat the worst team in the conference and you are suddenly back in the discussion of being on the periphery of the bubble.
Feels good guys. :cool:
You're the last person I thought I'd see sell this win short.
road win in an environment.
This is probably more appropriate for this thread: http://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/ (scroll down to the bottom)A possible Ole Miss rematch in front of thousands of screaming townies? Sounds about perfect for #bruceketball :Yuck:
I'm blocked from that link at work. Is that the bracketology for the NIT? If so, what's our seed?
I'm blocked from that link at work. Is that the bracketology for the NIT? If so, what's our seed?
:lol:I'm blocked from that link at work. Is that the bracketology for the NIT? If so, what's our seed?
Your work quit on K-State
:emawkid:I'm blocked from that link at work. Is that the bracketology for the NIT? If so, what's our seed?
3 seed!
Too true, road wins are like rare gifts these days.Just how good is the Big 12? Beat the worst team in the conference and you are suddenly back in the discussion of being on the periphery of the bubble.
Feels good guys. :cool:
You're the last person I thought I'd see sell this win short.
Great road win in a hostile environment.
This is probably more appropriate for this thread: http://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/ (scroll down to the bottom)A possible Ole Miss rematch in front of thousands of screaming townies? Sounds about perfect for #bruceketball :Yuck:
This is probably more appropriate for this thread: http://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/ (scroll down to the bottom)A possible Ole Miss rematch in front of thousands of screaming townies? Sounds about perfect for #bruceketball :Yuck:
I just cleared my calendar on the nights of March 15th and 16th. :bball:
I selfishly would love for Frank to lose a few, so we can match up with him, but I think he's solidly in.
I'm starting to think Frank might have "checked the oil" on Mrs. Wacky or something.I selfishly would love for Frank to lose a few, so we can match up with him, but I think he's solidly in.
yeah you need to get over this
Doesn't sound like fun for kstate fansI think they're comparable teams. I think it would be a good game. We blasted Mizzou, they lost to them. They beat A&M on the road, we lost. :frown:
In: Jevon Thomas
In: Jevon Thomas
Where did he transfer to?
Bracketology: Six teams voters love that have weak NCAA Tournament resumes
A look at teams in or just out of the rankings who may have work to do to make it to March Madness
Kansas State
I have to admit that when I looked at the AP Top 25, which I rarely do since they don't have a bearing on the selection process, I was stunned to find Kansas State in there. When I put together the bracket this morning, the Wildcats were not on the list of teams under consideration. Kansas State has beaten absolutely nobody of note. The Wildcats are 0-4 against the top 100 teams in the RPI. They are close losses, but still losses. Their best win is Nebraska-Omaha. They also beat current Horizon League leader Wisconsin-Green Bay. When your best wins are against teams with dashes in their names at this point of the season, you probably shouldn't be ranked. Poll voters don't put much thought into voting sometimes. They see a power conference team with a gaudy record and rank them. It is pretty obvious that Kansas State benefitted from that. I suspect that when the rankings are released this week, the Wildcats won't be there.
When your best wins are against teams with dashes in their names at this point of the season, you probably shouldn't be ranked.
I've watched a few games, also he just became eligible for the spring semester
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
#10 seed now
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/I love this site.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Is this aggregate data any more accurate than, say, Lunardi's?
Also, I'm surprised at how many people are still leaving off KSU entirely, given the current Big 12 standings.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Is this aggregate data any more accurate than, say, Lunardi's?
Also, I'm surprised at how many people are still leaving off KSU entirely, given the current Big 12 standings.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html
Even if the games don't mean a ton on a Tournament resume, the last couple performances don't look like a Tournament team. We are trending in the wrong direction. Bigly.
I would take a 9 seed, but would prefer 10 if we are in that range. I would rather we were as high as 7 but we are a long ways from that right now.
I would take a 9 seed, but would prefer 10 if we are in that range. I would rather we were as high as 7 but we are a long ways from that right now.
Yeah, I agree. After my meltdown on Saturday, I decided to actually look at where we are at, and we're still in good shape to make it. I know oscar and all that, but I'm still going to follow K-State basketball and hope for the best.
That could be said about both of us at this time, huh? I realized last night that i have to find other things to do on Cat's game days and nights besides watching. I felt ridiculous after that game, hoping and wishing they would get it together and play decent ball. Can't do that any more. I can only do the same thing so many times before I understand that those circumstances are not going to change, so I have to do something else.I would take a 9 seed, but would prefer 10 if we are in that range. I would rather we were as high as 7 but we are a long ways from that right now.
Yeah, I agree. After my meltdown on Saturday, I decided to actually look at where we are at, and we're still in good shape to make it. I know oscar and all that, but I'm still going to follow K-State basketball and hope for the best.
What an idiot.
I have a strong feeling this team is going to steal one of the next three-maybe even two!-and then completely collapse down the stretch.
That RPI jump is pretty drastic at this point in the season, no?
clemson in is a joke
clemson in is a joke
You realize there isn't a single team on that graphic with more top 100 wins, right?
and :confused:
Cows and Cats oh my!
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-02-08/march-madness-potential-ncaa-tournament-teams-few-are-talking?cid=ncaammsocial_tw_sf55078300
oscar Weber employs a hyper-aggressive scheme that’s geared to speed up the opponent and produce easy buckets for Kansas State.No
How to lose all credibility in one sentence.Cows and Cats oh my!
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-02-08/march-madness-potential-ncaa-tournament-teams-few-are-talking?cid=ncaammsocial_tw_sf55078300Quoteoscar Weber employs a hyper-aggressive scheme that’s geared to speed up the opponent and produce easy buckets for Kansas State.No
Beat ISU and move up to that 8 line?
Good. I realize 8/9 doesn't matter muchBeat ISU and move up to that 8 line?
If we finish 9-9 in the league we will be in the discussion for a 7 IMO.
where will 9-9 or 8-10 likely land us in the standings for the big 12?
Unless something crazy happens, I won't be surprised to see 8-10 get us in.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4Ui1_UVcAEnFsO.jpg:large)
8 K-State 82Followed by:
9 Miami 76
No Wednesday game for the cats :love:where will 9-9 or 8-10 likely land us in the standings for the big 12?
9-9 may get up to 4th, 8-10 may fall to 7th, most likely 5th or 6th though.
You sure are Wacky! No way we win a close game with a good opponent8 K-State 82Followed by:
9 Miami 76
1 Villanova 76
2 K-state 80
oscar will come in flipping the crowd off and will win the final four to take us to the nattyYou sure are Wacky! No way we win a close game with a good opponent8 K-State 82Followed by:
9 Miami 76
1 Villanova 76
2 K-state 80
Cats vs cats!Maybe Huggins v Frank as well
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Cats vs cats!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Sweet 16 here we comeCats vs cats!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
we would destroy NW and oregon
Cats vs cats!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Cats vs cats!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
we would destroy NW and oregon
Cats vs cats!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
According to nearly every projection, K-State is still safely in the tournament. With the schedule left and the current bubble status, it should absolutely be a fire-able offense to not make it with this team.
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guys. well, here is the thing. that bracket? that bracket isn't real
According to nearly every projection, K-State is still safely in the tournament. With the schedule left and the current bubble status, it should absolutely be a fire-able offense to not make it with this team.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4jpKAYUoAIostI.png:large)
BestWorstcase scenario is the perception that we were unjustly snubbed, thus preventing oscar being fired.
We're still in
We're still in
I have a strong feeling this team is going to steal one of the next three-maybe even two!-and then completely collapse down the stretch.
What games do people honestly see on the schedule that we take? Doesn't the evidence point to us in a serious nose dive that isn't going to get better? I'm thinking of looking at how bad our defense is and our scoring. It's not like we've lost close nail biters or something where just a few defensive lapses down the stretch cost us.
I don't think anyone sees sure wins left, maybe a week ago but not anymore. It's just that it would take an all time pants shitting for any of these teams to go 0-5 against any of the other five. Kenpom has us going 4-1.
Most people on board with 2 or 3 wins right now (base on stats and schedules)? Okay, thanks for setting me straight on what people are thinking.
Most as in most of the people participating in this thread. Not necessarily you, but I'd welcome your projections. I haven't checked the other thread(s) by poster that were more projections based to be honest.Most people on board with 2 or 3 wins right now (base on stats and schedules)? Okay, thanks for setting me straight on what people are thinking.
Who is this directed at?
Lunardi still has us in Last 4 Byes this morning. When considering the other teams competing for those last few at large spots it's hard to imagine 19 wins not being enough to get in this year.
Lunardi still has us in Last 4 Byes this morning. When considering the other teams competing for those last few at large spots it's hard to imagine 19 wins not being enough to get in this year.
There will be a couple of schools that make a run in their conference tournaments to get in.
I too second thisI don't think anyone sees sure wins left, maybe a week ago but not anymore. It's just that it would take an all time pants shitting for any of these teams to go 0-5 against any of the other five. Kenpom has us going 4-1.
eff it.....I vote for a pants shitting.
one of baylor or wvu isn't a top 25?
I hope we get rough ridin' hammered for our weak non-con. That kind of bullshit should not be rewarded. It doesn't help the kids, fans, or the game of college basketball. It's a chicken crap move by coaches who want to save their own necks.
Our losses are to a 1 seed (twice), a 2, a 4, a 6, an 8 (twice), an 11, a first four out, and next four out team. Wins over a 2, a 4, and an 8.
i'm baffled that we are still considered in. 6-8 in confy? with our non-con? sheesh.
i'm baffled that we are still considered in. 6-8 in confy? with our non-con? sheesh.
i'm baffled that we are still considered in. 6-8 in confy? with our non-con? sheesh.
USA today has us the first one out. #BubbleLife
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/02/21/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-college-basketball-march-madness-virginia/98188680/
I hope we get rough ridin' hammered for our weak non-con. That kind of bullshit should not be rewarded. It doesn't help the kids, fans, or the game of college basketball. It's a chicken crap move by coaches who want to save their own necks.
USA today has us the first one out. #BubbleLife
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/02/21/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-college-basketball-march-madness-virginia/98188680/
They have Clemson in with a 14-12 record and 4-10 conference record.
USA today has us the first one out. #BubbleLife
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/02/21/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-college-basketball-march-madness-virginia/98188680/
They have Clemson in with a 14-12 record and 4-10 conference record.
All bracketology's i'm seeing today have us as the first 4 out. Everyone brath easy. Weirdest one I saw was espn having Wichita State a 7 seed and CBS having them out of the tournament. :lol:
I think most people would agree with that. And I think the odds of it happening are about 50/50.
I'd say the odds of beating Tech & Baylor are definitely less than 50/50. More like 80/20 it doesn't happen.
http://bracketmatrix.com/
I'd say more like 60-65% vs Tech and 40-45% vs Baylor.
I just hope we have a live feed of oscar on Selection Sunday!
I just hope we have a live feed of oscar on Selection Sunday!
This is best case scenario for me provided we get a non-invite. Can you imagine the #exbruce gems that would be flowing out of his mouth :love:
My gut says we have to make it to Friday in KC to make it safely.Just look at the eff me gif when we don't get in.
As a P5 that has the $ to control your noncon if you go soft like we did you better have good wins in the conference and wins on the road. oscar has somehow coached them up to do both but beating Tech Saturday and losing to Baylor on Thursday smells like a NIT home game to me.
I just hope we have a live feed of oscar on Selection Sunday!
Weirdest one I saw was espn having Wichita State a 7 seed and CBS having them out of the tournament. :lol:
Gosh darn it. What I get for not reading all the posts.
:cheers: Joker
I just hope we have a live feed of oscar on Selection Sunday!
This is best case scenario for me provided we get a non-invite. Can you imagine the #exbruce gems that would be flowing out of his mouth :love:
Live feed preview:
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I still think we're in (play in game) if we win tomorrow. Win one in KC and we'll get Creighton in "first" round.
I still think we're in (play in game) if we win tomorrow. Win one in KC and we'll get Creighton in "first" round.
I think that's probably right.
oscar getting his first NCAA tournament "win" since 2011 in a first four game would be such a oscar thing to do.
If we could somehow get an 8/9 matchup with frank I'd be so happy.
If we could somehow get an 8/9 matchup with frank I'd be so happy.
Frank will eat our team alive, so great.
Have you guys seen Frank's team play this year? I don't think they're that great, but whatever.
I still think we're in (play in game) if we win tomorrow. Win one in KC and we'll get Creighton in "first" round.
I think that's probably right.
oscar getting his first NCAA tournament "win" since 2011 in a first four game would be such a oscar thing to do.
Have you guys seen Frank's team play this year? I don't think they're that great, but whatever.
Oklahoma beat us by 30 less than a week ago.
I very rarely literally LOL at things I read but this literally made me LOL. Thanks d!
Leading by 5 at the half, Frank would walk over to the KSU bench, grab a folding chair and lay out Weber. Frank would then proceed to coach the cats to a come from behind victory.
Just said at half time that KSU, TTU, and TCU are all out and doesn't see it changing.I would guess it would take a win tomorrow and then on Thursday to get us in.
Just said at half time that KSU, TTU, and TCU are all out and doesn't see it changing.I would guess it would take a win tomorrow and then on Thursday to get us in.
We find out tomorrow if it's Baylor or ISU? I'm too lazy to look it upI think I would have preferred playing WVU, but now not sure who would be our best match up.
two way tie goes to wvu (2-0), three way tie also goes to wvu (3-1) over baylor (2-2) and then isu (1-3)SO we would face Baylor with us both winning tomorrow, I think.
We find out tomorrow if it's Baylor or ISU? I'm too lazy to look it up
If we win and Baylor wins, we play Baylor. Doesn't matter what anyone else does.
Vandy won vs Fla
S Hall won at Butler.
2 teams that probably are IN now and off the bubble.
Xavier, Usc, Wake, Iowa, Illinois, GA Tech,
I think there is 3 spots open. These 6 and us are top candidates.
Vandy won vs Fla
S Hall won at Butler.
2 teams that probably are IN now and off the bubble.
Xavier, Usc, Wake, Iowa, Illinois, GA Tech,
I think there is 3 spots open. These 6 and us are top candidates.
espn seems to think vandy is comfortably in. with a loss in the sec tourney wouldn't they be the first 15 loss at large team ever?
Vandy should be out too. Any team that loses to Missouri, should be an automatic disqualified.
FYP :gocho:Vandy should be out too. Any team that loses to Missouri, should be an automatic disqualified.
It's not like they lost to thelast9th place team by 30.
Wake Forest up 12 with under 4 to play. :Yuck:
Wake Forest up 12 with under 4 to play. :Yuck:
This is confusing because some of us are cheering for bubble teams to get in ahead of us. So did a bubble team do good for themselves or no?They didn't blow themselves up yet, but they haven't helped themselves out yet either. They did what they needed to do for the time being. Beating the shittiest team in the ACC.
Win today and it's a formality with the bubble around us.It's looking that way! :emawkid:
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
Cats are likely in no matter what happens tonight.
UPDATE. 10 teams. 6 spots. 3 in better position than the others. 2 done.
Wake
Iowa
Vandy
KState
Rhode Island
Xavier
USC
Illinois St :ohno:
Cuse :flush:
Illinois :flush:
Cats are likely in no matter what happens tonight.
regardless of whether or not the committee "likes" our performances this year we will lose our first round game in embarrassing fashion but it won't be oscar weber's fault because we tried hardHot take!
regardless of whether or not the committee "likes" our performances this year we will lose our first round game in embarrassing fashion but it won't be oscar weber's fault because we tried hard
I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.I think it can be done. I really can't help it. It's how I operate.
Mutually exclusive.
I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.
Mutually exclusive.
regardless of whether or not the committee "likes" our performances this year we will lose our first round game in embarrassing fashion but it won't be oscar weber's fault because we tried hard
I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.
Mutually exclusive.
I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.
Mutually exclusive.
How many times in the last 10 years has a coach been fired after making the NCAAs?I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.
Mutually exclusive.
I can't believe that people still think one has anything to do with the other.
How many times in the last 10 years has a coach been fired after making the NCAAs?I can't believe people simultaneously wanting oscar out, and wanting us in the tournament.
Mutually exclusive.
I can't believe that people still think one has anything to do with the other.
TCU is most certainly not in now
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NahTCU is most certainly not in now
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They're in
Tcu is in now
TCU is most certainly not in now
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They're in
regardless of whether or not the committee "likes" our performances this year we will lose our first round game in embarrassing fashion but it won't be oscar weber's fault because we tried hard
Hey, at least we will have made a tournament appearance (official basketball currency). Plus, another notch on the ol' tournament appearances banner!
Xavier just beat Butler. :frown:
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
i made no comment about how deserving we are.
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
i made no comment about how deserving we are.
I mean you definitely seem confused as to why he has us as last 4 in
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
i made no comment about how deserving we are.
I mean you definitely seem confused as to why he has us as last 4 in
DJamer is also confused.
https://twitter.com/KWCHArielle/status/840061094655737856
https://twitter.com/KWCHArielle/status/840061094655737856
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lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
i made no comment about how deserving we are.
I mean you definitely seem confused as to why he has us as last 4 in
DJamer is also confused.
https://twitter.com/KWCHArielle/status/840061094655737856
lunardi moved us to last 4 in. interesting he thinks we could still miss the tourney and what a major exbruce that would potentially set up
We played a joke of a non-con and went 8-10 in conference play.
i made no comment about how deserving we are.
I mean you definitely seem confused as to why he has us as last 4 in
Good all A's right now test this morning at 10amhttps://twitter.com/KWCHArielle/status/840061094655737856
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Greg, how's your studying going? Are you posting this video in every topic?
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:thumbs: Greg, one of the best trips of my college experience was going on the road for the tourney. You should try and do it, bud.Do you have any proof that this actually happened?
Dayton :flush:The Flyers, not the First Four.
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Press passes? I was on TV once in Pittsburgh!Vid or it didn't happen...
Post college tho:love:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXCzteLPZAw
Post college tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXCzteLPZAw
Sounds like we need to win tonight to be a 100% lock.
Sounds like we need to win tonight to be a 100% lock.
bro we win tonight and its sleepycat.jpeg until the real tourney starts. no first 4 son.
Yes! We're the 67th best team in America!
I hope we don't have to play in one of the stupid play-in games. Those things shouldn't even exist.
Hey, I'll take a play-in game, but right now I care more about getting that Big 12 trophy.
So I made a bet with my roommate k-state wouldn't make the tourney. He wins, I buy him a pint of Jack Daniels. If I win, a pint of Sailor Jerry's.
If K-State plays in one of two, "play-in," games do I lose or win the bet?
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So I made a bet with my roommate k-state wouldn't make the tourney. He wins, I buy him a pint of Jack Daniels. If I win, a pint of Sailor Jerry's.try and go double or nothing on oscar winning the NCAA game
If K-State plays in one of two, "play-in," games do I lose or win the bet?
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I hope we don't have to play in one of the stupid play-in games. Those things shouldn't even exist.
Why do we care about Indiana, Houston, and TCU? Who's bubble were those teams on?
Why do we care about Indiana, Houston, and TCU? Who's bubble were those teams on?
Tcu winning today and they are 1 game away from getting a bid. The other 2 probably needed to win their tourney, but having them out and not making finals is a good thing.
I originally posted 10 teams 6 spots. No other team has gotten hot and gotten into the Mix. Hopefully Middle Tenn will win their conference, and not become a team that could be in a play-in game
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
We're actually in more brackets today than we were yesterday.
I feel safe about watching Tuesday or Wednesday night NCAA basketball involving the Cats.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
We're actually in more brackets today than we were yesterday.
I feel safe about watching Tuesday or Wednesday night NCAA basketball involving the Cats.
Weren't we on 104 brackets yesterday? Either way our position hasn't changed.
bracketmatrix.com bumped us back in with their latest update over Syracuse. The Cats are now in 89 of 114 brackets that they track. Rhode Island is in 53, Syracuse is in 50, and Illinois State in 38.
I hope we don't have to play in one of the stupid play-in games. Those things shouldn't even exist.
Pretty big tell that you don't watch the first four, they are normally very good basketball games. Also what weirdo complains about more tournament basketball games? Weird.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/Man, I hope you are right about us being in. My stomach is not calm thinking about it. I guess that's my body's way of telling me I still care a lot about the team and the season.
We're actually in more brackets today than we were yesterday.
I feel safe about watching Tuesday or Wednesday night NCAA basketball involving the Cats.
Ervin's hate quote is great.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article137940228.html
I hope we don't have to play in one of the stupid play-in games. Those things shouldn't even exist.
Pretty big tell that you don't watch the first four, they are normally very good basketball games. Also what weirdo complains about more tournament basketball games? Weird.
This will be the first year I watch it.
Ervin's hate quote is great.
Ervin's hate quote is great.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article137940228.html
I hope we don't have to play in one of the stupid play-in games. Those things shouldn't even exist.
Pretty big tell that you don't watch the first four, they are normally very good basketball games. Also what weirdo complains about more tournament basketball games? Weird.
This will be the first year I watch it.
Really? That's too bad, the games really are good, the atmosphere in UD Arena is also very good. I'd like to go some day.
Ervin's hate quote is great.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article137940228.html
If there was any doubt about how the fans feel about oscar Brett Weber basketball, that end all speculation. I feel bad that these guys have to feel the animus aimed at their coach.
“I know close doesn’t count, but we played Kansas, who people had No. 1 or No. 2, and we had a shot to beat them at their place. It was a tie score with a minute left at our place. We had some other close games.”
This is a few days old, but interesting take from the fivethirtyeight people: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/on-the-ncaa-bubble-heres-the-number-to-watch/
It points to ESPN's new Strength of Record in their BPI as a good indicator, which currently has us at #37: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi/_/sort/sorrank/page/2/dir/asc/view/overview
I think that means according to the Sabin guy who wrote the fivethrityeight piece that we are in good shape.
There are a number of small details that we have in our methodology to make it reflective of a résumé for a tournament team -- these are pretty technical and many people won't be interested, so we won't go into detail, but we think they improve how the tool works.ESPN's college football FPI uses recruiting rankings as a part of their formula.
On top of this, we decided to incorporate a little bit more information than the other power ranking systems use. In particular, we added a way of accounting for missing players.
If a team or its opponent is missing one of its most important players (determined by minutes per game) for a contest, that game is less important for ranking the teams compared to games in which both teams are at full strength.
I really hope that the committee doesn't use the BPI as a source of decision making. They intentionally conceal parts of their formula and other parts that they did disclose seem a bit iffy
Thought I heard Committee does look at things like KenPom and perhaps BPI but they aren't big factors. I think RPI is more important than bpi to them
As of now, I got Ku with the overall #2 seed, a 1in MW.
I got WV a 4, Isu a 5, OkSt a 10, and us in a play in game.
The fighting Brad's resume isn't as good as people perceive. They only have 6 Top 100 wins, went 1-8 vs Top 4 in Conference. We are their 4th best win. RPI is 41
The only bad news? This meeting is taking place too late for any of this to affect the way the 2017 NCAA Tournament is seeded. Using an aggregate metric won't be an option to be part of the selection process until at least 2018.
That sucks. I was thinking the win over Baylor would get us a 9 or 10
That sucks. I was thinking the win over Baylor would get us a 9 or 10
That sucks. I was thinking the win over Baylor would get us a 9 or 10
That sucks. I was thinking the win over Baylor would get us a 9 or 10
I'd guess the last 6 teams in will be
11 seed
11 seed
11 seed vs 11 seed play in game
12 seed vs 12 seed play in game
I think there is an 85% we make the Tourney.
I think 70% chance we are in the play in game, 15% we get an 11 with no play in, 15% chance that we don't make it. If we would gave beaten WV and lost to Isu, I think there was a good chance we would have jumped up to a 10 seed
Solid stats. I hope you are right. But I'll take "don't get in" paying 6/1 odds.
Frank vs oscar in Dayton?Would happily beat that as. They look super shitty.
[https://twitter.com/D1scourse/status/840960316431335426]
I could see the Cats getting left out due to non-con SOS. It's really the perfect opportunity for the committee to make a statement if they wanted to.
That said, I see the odds of getting left out as being pretty low.
oscar will win a play-in game and tout his tournament victory for the rest of his career here.
oscar will win a play-in game and tout his tournament victory for the rest of his career here.
In theory that win would be a better win than any of the wins that the 1-4 seeds will get in the first round.
oscar will win a play-in game and tout his tournament victory for the rest of his career here.
In theory that win would be a better win than any of the wins that the 1-4 seeds will get in the first round.
That sucks. I was thinking the win over Baylor would get us a 9 or 10
I'd guess the last 6 teams in will be
11 seed
11 seed
11 seed vs 11 seed play in game
12 seed vs 12 seed play in game
I think there is an 85% we make the Tourney.
I think 70% chance we are in the play in game, 15% we get an 11 with no play in, 15% chance that we don't make it. If we would gave beaten WV and lost to Isu, I think there was a good chance we would have jumped up to a 10 seed
Solid stats. I hope you are right. But I'll take "don't get in" paying 6/1 odds.
How is Vandy going to avoid a play in game when they are going to be the first at large team ever with 15 losses?
Rumor has it that we're being left out. Don't shoot the messengerI, for one, appreciate the tip, Kim.
With the play-in options, how do we match up?
oscar will win a play-in game and tout his tournament victory for the rest of his career here.
In theory that win would be a better win than any of the wins that the 1-4 seeds will get in the first round.
lol, love this
oscar will win a play-in game and tout his tournament victory for the rest of his career here.
In theory that win would be a better win than any of the wins that the 1-4 seeds will get in the first round.
lol, love this
I fail to see what's funny, someone help me out.
you really get into this, pp.
Are we having a Selection gathering with cameras?
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USC made itThat isn't a surprise.
:ohno:
We aren't making the tournament
We aren't making the tournament
We might be mumped guys
barely squeaked in.
Fan was rightHe often is. :)
3 year rebuild culminating in a play in game!
Trajectory rising!
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3 year rebuild culminating in a play in game!
Trajectory rising!
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The fan base is clearly re-energized and with a tournament win oscar's future is looking extremely bright!
It shouldn't count as an NCAA appearance. Play ins for any other seed than 16 are stupid. If you're a power 5 team and have to get in via a play in, then you don't deserve to be in the tournament.Fortunately for Cats and Cat fans the system doesn't work in agreement with your thinking.
All we have to do to make the Final 4 is beat Wake, Cincy, UCLA, Kentucky, and North Carolina :)
I agree if we show up with intensity.All we have to do to make the Final 4 is beat Wake, Cincy, UCLA, Kentucky, and North Carolina :)
Sweet 16 seems doable.
It shouldn't count as an NCAA appearance. Play ins for any other seed than 16 are stupid. If you're a power 5 team and have to get in via a play in, then you don't deserve to be in the tournament.
oscar's schedule paid off big time. He would be an idiot to not do this every year.probably the most important part of his job
Cuse got robbed
https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/SelectionSunday?src=hash
Kstate last team taken
oscar rides the bubble like Eddie Aikau rides the waves. Man's a savant.https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/SelectionSunday?src=hash
Kstate last team taken
my goodness. so close.
kRusty gets a chance at a sac-town game tho!Wow I just realized this. How wonderful!
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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1. Nova. 2 KU. 3. UNC. 4. Zags
8. UO. 7. Duke 6. UK. 5. AZ
9. Baylor 12. UCLA 10. Lville 11.Fsu
16. Fla. 14. ND. 15. WV. 13. Butler
5-- Purdue Virginia Iowa St Cincy
6-- Minnesota SMU St Mary's Wisconsin
7-- Creighton Maryland Michigan Arkansas
8-- Dayton Miami VCU Seton Hall
9-- Va Tech Wichita St South Carolina Northwestern
10-- Marquette OkSt Vandy Michigan St
11-- Rhode Island Providence
Last 4 -- Xavier KState Wake Forest USC
That's my final projections.
The fun begins in less than 2 hours. Hope we are apart of the fun
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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My God that game was AWFUL
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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My God that game was AWFUL
wasn't that the year we played new mexico and everyone got the flu or something? i just remember coming home from school all excited to check the score and then it was like, welp, eff it. guess i'll shoot nerf hoops in the basement instead
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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My God that game was AWFUL
wasn't that the year we played new mexico and everyone got the flu or something? i just remember coming home from school all excited to check the score and then it was like, welp, eff it. guess i'll shoot nerf hoops in the basement instead
New Mexico State, it was New Mexico State that kicked our asses, total embarrassment.
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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My God that game was AWFUL
wasn't that the year we played new mexico and everyone got the flu or something? i just remember coming home from school all excited to check the score and then it was like, welp, eff it. guess i'll shoot nerf hoops in the basement instead
New Mexico State, it was New Mexico State that kicked our asses, total embarrassment.
No, it was New Mexico.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_NCAA_Division_I_Men's_Basketball_Tournament
MIR, you may be thinking of the NIT game against NC State in 1998. That was a terrible game:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_National_Invitation_Tournament
The 19th NCAA tourney appearance for Kstate since I started paying attention.
Easily the least excited I've been and that includes Asbury's year when I knew we'd get killed.
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My God that game was AWFUL
wasn't that the year we played new mexico and everyone got the flu or something? i just remember coming home from school all excited to check the score and then it was like, welp, eff it. guess i'll shoot nerf hoops in the basement instead
New Mexico State, it was New Mexico State that kicked our asses, total embarrassment.
No, it was New Mexico.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_NCAA_Division_I_Men's_Basketball_Tournament
MIR, you may be thinking of the NIT game against NC State in 1998. That was a terrible game:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_National_Invitation_Tournament
The boys on PTI were not okay with Kansas State making it in over Indiana St and Syracuse.
You mean Illinois State, right?
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
If it is really true the committee is going to place more value on road wins, I question is these bracketologists are taking that into account. We currently have true road wins at Vanderbilt, WSU, ISU and Baylor. I think ISU and Baylor would be given the same value as the home wins over OU and TCU
Maybe some of you follow this closer than I do and can correct me if I am wrong about the value of road wins.
I still don't feel that KSU has to do anything that crazy to get in the tournament if we just keep playing at the level we have been. SOS will go up as the season progresses, which is a big factor in RPI.If we keep playing the way we've been playing, we may end up winning the conference. I would say that's a tall order.
I just don’t want to sweat selection Sunday. I don’t think a 5-7 seed range with this team is too much to ask.I will go as far to say that this team could be a 4 to 7 team. We have had a lot of mentions in Big 12 media recently since we gave other teams the success to shut down one of the best players in the country, we are going to take care of business saturday against Georgia. Then going to what could go down as one of the biggest games of Bruces career so far in Bramlage. This whole 5 game stretch has been a telling one to the committee and if they have the balls to put us 7th or above I will be one angry cat fan.
The committee will find the next Wisconsin or Tucky as opponent; add a bad whistle for good measure.
Everybody will be butt hurt over the KITN.
I don't think it's crazy to think a school like K-State could have a couple sweet sixteen appearances each decade. Until we stopped trying to win at basketball for like two decades that would have been a conservative expectation. Basketball landscape has changed, so it's not as easy for us to have that rate of success, but it's not like some kind of pipe dream or something to expect a couple short runs every ten years..I wonder how many schools have multiple sweet 16s over the last 10 years
I don't think it's crazy to think a school like K-State could have a couple sweet sixteen appearances each decade. Until we stopped trying to win at basketball for like two decades that would have been a conservative expectation. Basketball landscape has changed, so it's not as easy for us to have that rate of success, but it's not like some kind of pipe dream or something to expect a couple short runs every ten years..I wonder how many schools have multiple sweet 16s over the last 10 years
I don't think it's crazy to think a school like K-State could have a couple sweet sixteen appearances each decade. Until we stopped trying to win at basketball for like two decades that would have been a conservative expectation. Basketball landscape has changed, so it's not as easy for us to have that rate of success, but it's not like some kind of pipe dream or something to expect a couple short runs every ten years..I wonder how many schools have multiple sweet 16s over the last 10 years
I don't think it's crazy to think a school like K-State could have a couple sweet sixteen appearances each decade. Until we stopped trying to win at basketball for like two decades that would have been a conservative expectation. Basketball landscape has changed, so it's not as easy for us to have that rate of success, but it's not like some kind of pipe dream or something to expect a couple short runs every ten years..I wonder how many schools have multiple sweet 16s over the last 10 years
Oklahoma doesn't even give a crap about hoops, and they've got three.
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i went ahead and did elite 8 appearances also for the same 10 year period (2008-2017)
of the 35 teams who made the sweet 16 multiple times, 28 made it to the elite 8 at least once:
6 Kentucky, North Carolina
5 Florida, Kansas, Louisville
4 Michigan State
3 Arizona, Duke, Syracuse, UConn
2 Baylor, Butler, Gonzaga, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Villanova, Wisconsin, Xavier
1 Marquette, Memphis, Tennessee, UCLA, Virginia, West Virginia, Wichita State
the other 7 schools were skunked
0 for 3: Indiana, Purdue
0 for 2: Iowa State, Miami (FL), NC State, San Diego State, Stanford
6 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into an elite 8 appearance:
Davidson '08
Texas '08
Missouri '09
Pittsburgh '09
Kansas State '10
Dayton '14
2 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into a final four run:
VCU '11
South Carolina '17
Why would you be surprised by OU? They've had two national player of the year candidates in this stretch and have another this year.Maybe because we have had a fair number of wins over them recently. Watching games on TV where their area is mostly empty. Like someone else mentioned, the perception that they don't care about being good at basketball.
Why would you be surprised by OU? They've had two national player of the year candidates in this stretch and have another this year.
Why would you be surprised by OU? They've had two national player of the year candidates in this stretch and have another this year.Maybe because we have had a fair number of wins over them recently. Watching games on TV where their area is mostly empty. Like someone else mentioned, the perception that they don't care about being good at basketball.
SHOCKing match up
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/01/25/bracket-watch-update-kansas-state-michigan-state-oklahoma
We are b tier but headed at lightning speed towards trash
If oscar gets two or three years to make a sweet 16 then it's our admin who ran this program to the ground, not oscar
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Up to a 10
Have you guys noticed how hot garbage-y the big 10 and P12 are. They're looking at only getting 4 teams in each.
The other P5 are going to get 6-8 teams in each.
Have you guys noticed how hot garbage-y the big 10 and P12 are. They're looking at only getting 4 teams in each.
The other P5 are going to get 6-8 teams in each.
Both the B10 and P12 will get 5 in the dance. I'm not saying that they're not garbage-y but several of those garbage-y teams are still ahead of us.
The Big 10 isn't garbage, they're just top heavy and all of the good teams are in the east. Like the old Big 12, they don't have their standings by division but their schedules are unbalanced and they do them by the football division. The Big 10 west is far and away the worst division in major college basketball this year.
You look at the standings and see Nebraska in fourth and it's like :surprised: then you realize most of their games are against teams ranked 7, 10, 11, 12, and 13 in a 14 team conference and they only have 3 top 100 wins.
Yes, and please excuse my hyperbole re the AAC.
The P12 is definitely shittier than the B10.
For some stupid reason I watched Cal Colorado last night :Yuck:OMG, me too. Just the first half. :Yuck:
Hey Posse, do you know who Lacey is?
Off the Chart above, I have no clue why Lunardi has Michigan as a 6 seed in latest Bracketology. Only 4 of the 19 wins are Q1/Q2 and their non con SOS isn't real good (258). Both of the Q1 wins are on the road (Sparty, Texas) but more like a 10 seed.
Louisville is very similar. 18-8 and only 3 wins in the Q1/Q2. Lunardi has them with a 9. I think they are a fraction away from being in a play-in game. Basically the same spot we are in
Off the Chart above, I have no clue why Lunardi has Michigan as a 6 seed in latest Bracketology. Only 4 of the 19 wins are Q1/Q2 and their non con SOS isn't real good (258). Both of the Q1 wins are on the road (Sparty, Texas) but more like a 10 seed.
Louisville is very similar. 18-8 and only 3 wins in the Q1/Q2. Lunardi has them with a 9. I think they are a fraction away from being in a play-in game. Basically the same spot we are in
Maybe they factor in coaching prowess.OurYour coach has made it to the round of 32 exactly once in the last 12 years
at what point as a fan do you say, it's time to win a tournament game? is year 6 too early?
at what point as a fan do you say, it's time to win a tournament game? is year 6 too early?
Won a game in the tourney last year so...
the TCU thing is kind of weird especially if we sweep them in league play and have more wins in conference and in total than them.
last week RPI:
TCU: #27, 11-8 vs top 100
KSU: #66, 7-8 vs top 100
today RPI:
TCU: #27, 11-8 vs top 100
KSU: #56, 8-8 vs top 100
it's crazy that another top 100 win raised our RPI 10 spots, even though AFAIK we didn't swap the 4 worst teams on our schedule with anybody. it's almost like if we get 3 more top 100 wins, we could have pretty much the same RPI as TCU! wow!
the TCU thing is kind of weird especially if we sweep them in league play and have more wins in conference and in total than them.
last week RPI:
TCU: #27, 11-8 vs top 100
KSU: #66, 7-8 vs top 100
today RPI:
TCU: #27, 11-8 vs top 100
KSU: #56, 8-8 vs top 100
it's crazy that another top 100 win raised our RPI 10 spots, even though AFAIK we didn't swap the 4 worst teams on our schedule with anybody. it's almost like if we get 3 more top 100 wins, we could have pretty much the same RPI as TCU! wow!
I mean, no one is arguing that KSU's RPI should be higher or that TCU's should be lower.
our resume looks a lot like virginia tech's.
at what point as a fan do you say, it's time to win a tournament game? is year 6 too early?
at what point as a fan do you say, it's time to win a tournament game? is year 6 too early?
There literally isn't a single person in the world who is happy with oscar's NCAA tournament record, literally not a single one. In a world of stupid hottakes, this is the dumbest one. This is part and parcel with people who type the phrase "our fans are okay with mediocrity." I wish anyone who ever says or types that gets their stupid fingers slammed in a car door.
at what point as a fan do you say, it's time to win a tournament game? is year 6 too early?
There literally isn't a single person in the world who is happy with oscar's NCAA tournament record, literally not a single one. In a world of stupid hottakes, this is the dumbest one. This is part and parcel with people who type the phrase "our fans are okay with mediocrity." I wish anyone who ever says or types that gets their stupid fingers slammed in a car door.
the TCU thing is kind of weird especially if we sweep them in league play and have more wins in conference and in total than them.
it's crazy what happens when you get 6 noncon top 100 wins (TCU) instead of 1 noncon top 100 win (KSU)
the TCU thing is kind of weird especially if we sweep them in league play and have more wins in conference and in total than them.
it's crazy what happens when you get 6 noncon top 100 wins (TCU) instead of 1 noncon top 100 win (KSU)
Hold on man, their six top 100 wins were against
South Dakota
St. Bonaventure
Belmont
SMU
Nevada
William & Mary
It's also worth noting that the St. Bonaventure and Nevada games weren't scheduled by TCU, one was a tournament and one was a one off classic game they likely got from winning the NIT.
In May and June when these things are scheduled does that really look much differently than
Arizona State
Tulsa
Vanderbilt
UC Irvine
George Washington
Washington State
mocat, I'm not against using Top 100/50 wins as something to look at, but do you not believe in the tier game system that the NCAA has actually stated they are using to replace that?
mocat, I'm not against using Top 100/50 wins as something to look at, but do you not believe in the tier game system that the NCAA has actually stated they are using to replace that?
yep, again, i'm not commenting on how the committee uses the RPI. my initial foray into this mess was based on a tweet that ignorantly criticized the RPI system itself (which is much different than criticizing how a committee does or does not use the system).
i'm just continuing to emphasize that a team's RPI ranking has little to do with what goes on in the >200 portion of its schedule.
fwiw i think the tier system you mentioned is a great way to apply the RPI
rough ridin' tulsa :curse:
i dont care about tcu, we should have never lost that game.rough ridin' tulsa :curse:
TCU's tulsa is worse than ours
i dont care about tcu, we should have never lost that game.rough ridin' tulsa :curse:
TCU's tulsa is worse than ours
oh, i see what you are saying now. i generally just look at the overall record and 20+wins in the big 12 should get it done regardless of nonconi dont care about tcu, we should have never lost that game.rough ridin' tulsa :curse:
TCU's tulsa is worse than ours
no i mean they have a worse loss than Tulsa on their resume and it had no effect on their RPI
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
Outside of losing the rest of our games is there any prayer of us missing the tourney?
Outside of losing the rest of our games is there any prayer of us missing the tourney?
probably would have to go 1-5 or worse in our last 5 plus big 12 tourney to not make the tourney. i think 2-3 last 5 reg season gets us in.
Getting so excited for this years 4 day bender/march madness man caveathon this year. :ksu:would you rather go watch a good bracket at a great location or watch the cats in wichita (who will not likely make it out of wichita)?
Great location. I don't think i'm heading to Wichita even if they're there. I did get excited about the Charlotte site. Now that we've done so much to the downstairs, I might even do a staycation and meet up with some buds in the afternoon. :emawkid: :cheers:pittsburgh looks good, i was thinking about that one. especially if we play florida
I loved my trip there. Got totally lost in the city and had a blast. They also have a huge st pattys day parade around the center where the games are. I would definitely go back there.Great location. I don't think i'm heading to Wichita even if they're there. I did get excited about the Charlotte site. Now that we've done so much to the downstairs, I might even do a staycation and meet up with some buds in the afternoon. :emawkid: :cheers:pittsburgh looks good, i was thinking about that one. especially if we play florida
I have a hard time spending the money and time to travel unless we're a high enough seed to make a splash. Partly because I don't want to make the effort to watch us lose and partly because it's tough to beat sitting at a sports bar with four games on.Totally good times as well. I was in LA seeing my buddy last year for the tournament. It was tough there tho. He found a Kansas bar, but it was actually a KU bar, and they wouldn't let us put a TV on K-state. Had to go find somewhere that would play it. Love that city, but not a place for a sports weekend.
I would possibly do Wichita this year but that's it (barring some magical end of season run).
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
I have no clue why Palm has a job. He's never that accurate.
He has Houston seeded higher than Bama. Bama has 7/2 on the Q1/Q2 wins. They have a good NonCon SOS (23). Houston is 5/1 on the good wins and has a 271 NonCon SOS.
Bama 8-5 in 3rd rated Conference
Houston 10-3 in 7th rated Conference
Few others I disagree with, but the Bama/Houston one made me LOL.
They are de-emphasizing it, they wanted to starting last year. The committee is struggling whether to use predictive formulas or ones that are more of a snapshot of what teams have accomplished, or how they will weigh each model because they're likely to use a combination of both.
they should not use predictive methods, that's completely inappropriate. teams need to be evaluated purely based on accomplishments.Aren't most (all?) of the predictive measurements based on accomplishments? Maybe this was your point.
After the selection commiteee's top-16 reveal on Sunday, Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander give a full rundown not just of the teams picked and those snubbed, but go in depth on the new process and what you need to know about how the NCAA is changing the way it seeds and select teams. It's a long discussion, with some difference in opinion between the guys on what the committee does, but worth it for any fan who will watch again come Selection Sunday.
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they should not use predictive methods, that's completely inappropriate. teams need to be evaluated purely based on accomplishments.Aren't most (all?) of the predictive measurements based on accomplishments? Maybe this was your point.
they should not use predictive methods, that's completely inappropriate. teams need to be evaluated purely based on accomplishments.Aren't most (all?) of the predictive measurements based on accomplishments? Maybe this was your point.
only if you consider mol/mov an accomplishment. to me, an athletic contest is winner take all. for ncaa tournament consideration, a team should get no credit for a close loss, nor an extra credit for a blowout.
it's different in principal, if less so in practice. the principal is that the only thing that matters is whether you win or lose the game. it gets messier when you factor in anything other than record into your perception of the quality of the win or loss, which we all do, whether explicitly or implicitly. but the principle is not violated, at least among first order interactions.
As of this morning's bracket matrix....
(https://image.ibb.co/iSppY7/Bracket_Comparison.png)
Based on the eye matrix, we're better than every team on that matrix except maybe ArKansas or Creighton.
hey posse, if kstate beats ou, they're out, right? they can't get in with their only win in the last 9 being isu at home.
hey posse, if kstate beats ou, they're out, right? they can't get in with their only win in the last 9 being isu at home.
So HBBIQ-ers, what’s it gonna take down the stretch to secure a non-play-in tournament seed for the Cats? 2-2? Sure seems like a 10-8 Big 12 record should be comfortably in. I don’t see a whole lot of difference between the strength of our opponents down the stretch so not sure it even matters where the W’s come from.
So HBBIQ-ers, what’s it gonna take down the stretch to secure a non-play-in tournament seed for the Cats? 2-2? Sure seems like a 10-8 Big 12 record should be comfortably in. I don’t see a whole lot of difference between the strength of our opponents down the stretch so not sure it even matters where the W’s come from.
Florida State has basically the same resume as us and is projected as an 8 seed?
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
Absurd longshot: We could go 4-0 and end up with no wins against an NCAA tournament team.
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
There are no top 50 wins anymore. It's all about the quads/tiers.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-07-14/di-mens-basketball-committee-redefines-quality-win
can't wait to see if we end up a 10 seed or a play-in participant
can't wait to see if we end up a 10 seed or a play-in participant
I've said it before, but I actually think if you're not going to be a top 4 seed then 10/11 is a good place to be. 8/9 is one of the worst; playing a toss-up game followed immediately by playing a #1 seed.
Now for the REALLY HBBIQ-ers:
Since we have already beaten each of the teams we are going to play, is there a chance that our losses could actually still improve KSU's tournament resume? Example: Texas is currently 53 in RPI. If they beat us tomorrow, I'm assuming they could get up to top 50, which ironically (at least temporarily) adds one top 50 win to our resume instead of two top 100 wins. Obviously a win helps more, but is there a point where the difference between a win and loss is kind of a wash?
There are no top 50 wins anymore. It's all about the quads/tiers.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-07-14/di-mens-basketball-committee-redefines-quality-win
I was just using that as a simple example. But if I understand your and PP's responses it sounds like the quad system won't allow a single win/loss to significantly alter the quality of another win/loss when one is at home and one is on the road.
can't wait to see if we end up a 10 seed or a play-in participant
I've said it before, but I actually think if you're not going to be a top 4 seed then 10/11 is a good place to be. 8/9 is one of the worst; playing a toss-up game followed immediately by playing a #1 seed.
People say this all the time but there's little to no difference between a 1 and a 2, this is magnified this year. There will be blue bloods on the 2 line, not so much the 1 other than Villanova.
can't wait to see if we end up a 10 seed or a play-in participant
I've said it before, but I actually think if you're not going to be a top 4 seed then 10/11 is a good place to be. 8/9 is one of the worst; playing a toss-up game followed immediately by playing a #1 seed.
People say this all the time but there's little to no difference between a 1 and a 2, this is magnified this year. There will be blue bloods on the 2 line, not so much the 1 other than Villanova.
My point is more geared towards whether you have to play a 1 or 2 in the opening weekend.
can't wait to see if we end up a 10 seed or a play-in participant
I've said it before, but I actually think if you're not going to be a top 4 seed then 10/11 is a good place to be. 8/9 is one of the worst; playing a toss-up game followed immediately by playing a #1 seed.
People say this all the time but there's little to no difference between a 1 and a 2, this is magnified this year. There will be blue bloods on the 2 line, not so much the 1 other than Villanova.
My point is more geared towards whether you have to play a 1 or 2 in the opening weekend.
I know, a 10 would play a 2 in the second round as opposed to a 8/9 playing a 1. The line of demarcation is at 11 and 12, it's why a first four team has made the sweet 16 every year.
Petro was on 810 yesterday discussing whether 10-8 would be enough to get KSU into the dance. :shakesfist:
Petro was on 810 yesterday discussing whether 10-8 would be enough to get KSU into the dance. :shakesfist:
what did petro say about tcu kp30nting this year?
Getting on the 8/9 line is great because you can expect to get pasted by the 1 seed in the round of 32 and have zero expectations of winning.
Play in game is def best for "Bruceology" ... gives him the best shot at another "tourney win" and advancement into the "second round".
Yeah i was hoping baylor would beat wvu last night as well, I think they are a tournament team if they can go 2-1 and win a game in the pepper. tcu baylor saturday should be interestingwhat did petro say about tcu kp30nting this year?
Great topic. Iowa State could really help this cause with some Hilton Magic tonight.
What an interesting resume for Oklahoma State. I feel like it's pretty tough to ignore despite their RPI of 100+
hopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
who is on the 7 line in that bracket matrix fan
hopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
Why? Does it matter? Are you looking at the next round against a #1 seed?
oscar hasn't won a 1st round game yet, no worries........ :shakesfist:
Man, why did we have to lose to Tulsa. 3-7 doesn't look great for T-1, but it that 6-0 T-2 looks pretty sexy.I probably should worry more about OU than I am. They look like absolute dogshit right now.
I feel like a 9 seed is pretty high right now, but if we beat OU (longshot, IMO given they will be in desperation mode at home) we probably will end up a 10 or better.
10 seed vs. 7 Florida
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
(http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)
Man, why did we have to lose to Tulsa. 3-7 doesn't look great for T-1, but it that 6-0 T-2 looks pretty sexy.I probably should worry more about OU than I am. They look like absolute dogshit right now.
I feel like a 9 seed is pretty high right now, but if we beat OU (longshot, IMO given they will be in desperation mode at home) we probably will end up a 10 or better.
PP where would we play our game location wise according to your algorithm and modeling
What an interesting resume for Oklahoma State. I feel like it's pretty tough to ignore despite their RPI of 100+
PP where would we play our game location wise according to your algorithm and modeling
Nova & Xavier will get Pittsburgh Pod
Virginia & Duke will get Charlotte Pod
Michigan St & Purdue will get Detroit Pod
Auburn will get Nashville.
Ku will get Wichita
UNC is the best 3 seed and they very likely get Nashville
It's very hard to project right now, but being in the 7-10 seed range, playing in Pittsburgh, Detroit, Charlotte, or Nashville is extremely likely. Very low odds we play in the any of the other 4 cities
hopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
I would like to avoid uva and the handsome guy, T-Y V-Mhopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
No difference
I would like to avoid uva and the handsome guy, T-Y V-Mhopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
No difference
who is on the 7 line in that bracket matrix fan
Here's what I have.
Butler
Saint Mary's College
Texas A&M
Florida State
I took bracketmatrix projections from last night and tweaked it a little bit this time so some of those teams moved around a little bit.
PP where would we play our game location wise according to your algorithm and modeling
Nova & Xavier will get Pittsburgh Pod
Virginia & Duke will get Charlotte Pod
Michigan St & Purdue will get Detroit Pod
Auburn will get Nashville.
Ku will get Wichita
UNC is the best 3 seed and they very likely get Nashville
It's very hard to project right now, but being in the 7-10 seed range, playing in Pittsburgh, Detroit, Charlotte, or Nashville is extremely likely. Very low odds we play in the any of the other 4 cities
If WSU somehow gets to a 3 seed, KSU could play as the 11 in Wichita. I can't see that happening though.
PP where would we play our game location wise according to your algorithm and modeling
Nova & Xavier will get Pittsburgh Pod
Virginia & Duke will get Charlotte Pod
Michigan St & Purdue will get Detroit Pod
Auburn will get Nashville.
Ku will get Wichita
UNC is the best 3 seed and they very likely get Nashville
It's very hard to project right now, but being in the 7-10 seed range, playing in Pittsburgh, Detroit, Charlotte, or Nashville is extremely likely. Very low odds we play in the any of the other 4 cities
If WSU somehow gets to a 3 seed, KSU could play as the 11 in Wichita. I can't see that happening though.
Wichita is a top 4 seed and likely be in Dallas. Obviously they can't play on their own home court.
Cincy is a 3 now, could very well be in Wichita.
There is a chance Cincy finishes strong and gets a 2. Then KState has an outside shot to be in the 7/10 with them.
wait! What's this about? What's oscar's track record? You're making me concerned. Elaborate.hopefully we can drop a couple more to get back on that sexy 10 line. 8/9 is the worst
Why? Does it matter? Are you looking at the next round against a #1 seed?
oscar hasn't won a 1st round game yet, no worries........ :shakesfist:
Dang TCU moved up to the 7 line, that is absurd.
Updated again, this time I stayed true to the updated Bracket Matrix projections.
(https://image.ibb.co/hcmAVx/Bracket_Comparison.png)
When I look at our tier and road wins, I can't help but think we could be seeded a line or two higher when the committee really looks at the records.
So our next two games will likely be:i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up
@TCU Tier 1
@Baylor Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2
Plus the Big 12 tournament. Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.
Fixed**So our next two games will likely be:i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up
@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2
Plus the Big 12 tournament. Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.
Kansas State (20-8, 9-6 Big 12)
(BPI: 45 | SOS: 44 | SOR: 21 | RPI: 54)
The game the Wildcats are about to play at Oklahoma represents a fork in the road for two teams traveling in different directions. K-State has won three in a row and the Sooners represent a Quadrant 1 test despite their current struggles.
As an inhabitant of Joe Lunardi's list of "last four byes," Kansas State is in the field but not by a huge margin. A win in Norman would provide a little breathing space, though a victory at TCU in the following game would furnish even more.
lol, no way? are you not paying attention to them?Fixed**So our next two games will likely be:i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up
@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2
Plus the Big 12 tournament. Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.
No way OU drops to Tier 2.
Palm has us as a 9 vs 8 Creighton
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/bracketology/
Today's bubble watch, we're still in the work left to do category. I thought we'd be in the "should be in category." I think we're a lock though because we'd still be .500 in the #1 conference with an rpi in the low 50s at worst.QuoteKansas State (20-8, 9-6 Big 12)
(BPI: 45 | SOS: 44 | SOR: 21 | RPI: 54)
The game the Wildcats are about to play at Oklahoma represents a fork in the road for two teams traveling in different directions. K-State has won three in a row and the Sooners represent a Quadrant 1 test despite their current struggles.
As an inhabitant of Joe Lunardi's list of "last four byes," Kansas State is in the field but not by a huge margin. A win in Norman would provide a little breathing space, though a victory at TCU in the following game would furnish even more.
Also worth noting regarding lunardi, he's usually trash at seeding the lower seeded at larges until late championship week.
lol, no way? are you not paying attention to them?Fixed**So our next two games will likely be:i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up
@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2
Plus the Big 12 tournament. Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.
No way OU drops to Tier 2.
OU can and most likely will lose out. thats where i was going with that statementlol, no way? are you not paying attention to them?Fixed**So our next two games will likely be:i know you meant to put OU there, but i would put baylor and OU as tier 2 for now. thats most likely where they will end up
@OU Tier 1
@TCU Tier 1 and
vs. Baylor Tier 2
Plus the Big 12 tournament. Seems like we have some good oppy's left to move up.
No way OU drops to Tier 2.
Since its a road game, OU would have to drop over 40 spots in the RPI to become a tier 2 game. Some may call this a flaw in the tier system, but its what they are using.
i just dont see how you can count that as a "quality win" anymore
i just dont see how you can count that as a "quality win" anymorePlaying at a team with an RPI of 1-75 qualifies as a tier 1 win.
so by that account if tulsa wins a couple of games they will most likely be a tier 1 loss
so if they are in the top 75 and you beat them its a tier 1 win but if you lose its a tier 2 loss?so by that account if tulsa wins a couple of games they will most likely be a tier 1 loss
It will be tier 2 if they move up to the top 75. The game in Wichita counts as a home game since K-State handled ticket sales.
so if they are in the top 75 and you beat them its a tier 1 win but if you lose its a tier 2 loss?so by that account if tulsa wins a couple of games they will most likely be a tier 1 loss
It will be tier 2 if they move up to the top 75. The game in Wichita counts as a home game since K-State handled ticket sales.
it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus is
it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus is
:lol:
Dang TCU moved up to the 7 line, that is absurd.
It is crazy. 7 tier 1/2 wins and 3 road wins. We have 9 and 6.
The bracketologists love them though.
it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus isouch, deserved it but still OUCH
it's like the first semester at the new middle school and kslim missed the first week of geometry class and now is trying to tell professor FAN what a rhombus isouch, deserved it but still OUCH
who is on the 7 line in that bracket matrix fan
Here's what I have.
Butler
Saint Mary's College
Texas A&M
Florida State
I took bracketmatrix projections from last night and tweaked it a little bit this time so some of those teams moved around a little bit.
Our SOS dropped after playing OU again?
Tulsa counts as a home game, but I think they could still end up as a Q2 by the end of the season.
Tulsa counts as a home game, but I think they could still end up as a Q2 by the end of the season.
How the hell is that a home game?
It will probably mean fewer destination “home” games, but should encourage more home-home scheduling with decent schools.
It will probably mean fewer destination “home” games, but should encourage more home-home scheduling with decent schools.
Bubble Watch:
Should be in
Kansas State (20-9, 9-7 Big 12)
(BPI: 50 | SOS: 46 | SOR: 30 | RPI: 60)
The Wildcats would likely have seven or even eight at-large teams taken after them in the bracket if the field was announce today. So yes, the loss at Oklahoma was a missed opportunity, but no, it doesn't detract from the fact that oscar Weber's guys are in a good place.
Certainly, the Big 12 gives its members plenty of chances to improve their seed, and perhaps K-State can do just that with remaining games at TCU and at home against Baylor. A win in either contest would earn Kansas State an above-.500 finish in the nation's strongest conference.
Tulsa counts as a home game, but I think they could still end up as a Q2 by the end of the season.
How the hell is that a home game?
If the school handles the ticket sales, its a "home game" for that school.
Ok, so what has to happen now for the Cats to lock up a non-first four bid?
Last night didn't even effect us. Hi Marcus!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Last night didn't even effect us. Hi Marcus!
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Creighton isn't that good. They are 1-6 on road in Q1/Q2 games.actually they are pretty good
Barry would be up to the challenge of guarding Foster. Yes, that Foster who is still in search of NCAA Tourney win #1
Play-in game vs Nebraska with the winner playing Creighton. So much on the line in that scenario.
Play-in game vs Nebraska with the winner playing Creighton. So much on the line in that scenario.that would be a ton of fun
man i dont know that would put 8 big twelve teams in if it stuck
Play-in game vs Nebraska with the winner playing Creighton. So much on the line in that scenario.
Huskers beat oscar for their first ever Tourney win. Then Foster stomps the Huskers and carries Creighton to a Natty and is also named tournament MVP.
As of now, IMO here are the last 10 teams in that are not in Dayton...
#33-37 - Creighton, ASU, Butler, FSU, OU
#38-42- Kstate, St Bony, USC, Bama, St Mary's
Beat Baylor and I'd be shocked if we fell to #41-#42 much less a Dayton game
As of now, IMO here are the last 10 teams in that are not in Dayton...
#33-37 - Creighton, ASU, Butler, FSU, OU
#38-42- Kstate, St Bony, USC, Bama, St Mary's
Beat Baylor and I'd be shocked if we fell to #41-#42 much less a Dayton game
I'm thinking if we beat Baylor, we're likely to move up to a 10.
What seed when we win the Big12 Tournament Trophy?
What seed when we win the Big12 Tournament Trophy?
You’d have to think 6 seed, no?
Jesus I understand being #1GoCatsFan and stuff but get ahold of yourselves. Winning the Big 12 tournament? :lol:
Jesus I understand being #1GoCatsFan and stuff but get ahold of yourselves. Winning the Big 12 tournament? :lol:
Jesus I understand being #1GoCatsFan and stuff but get ahold of yourselves. Winning the Big 12 tournament? :lol:
Sounds like exactly the kind of thing oscar would do. Get a 6 see then get absolutely obliterated by the 11 that came out of Dayton
Y'all are in no matter what happens.
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i don't see how you could make any legitimate argument for baylor over the cows. these goddamn bracketologists better wake the eff up.
As of now, IMO here are the last 10 teams in that are not in Dayton...
#33-37 - Creighton, ASU, Butler, FSU, OU
#38-42- Kstate, St Bony, USC, Bama, St Mary's
Play-in game vs Nebraska with the winner playing Creighton. So much on the line in that scenario.
Play in game is off the table now. As are Nebraska’s hopes of dancing I think.
Losing to a tier 3 should negate one tier 1 and one tier 2 game, imo.
This Tier thing is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than just looking at rpi and rpi wins. A fine combo of laziness and anachronism.
Losing to a tier 3 should negate one tier 1 and one tier 2 game, imo.
This Tier thing is even more Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) than just looking at rpi and rpi wins. A fine combo of laziness and anachronism.
If you are going to use the RPI, the tier system makes more sense to me. Its based on the same thing, but factoring in location of games seems logical to me.
Trying to simplify = lazy
Rpi = anacronistic
Develop an actual non-stupid computer model (bpi for starters) if you need a tool to crutch on.
My problem with the tier thing would be that it waters down really good wins. A win at home against TCU shouldn't be anywhere near a win @Virginia. I guess you have to draw the line somewhere in trying to simplify the process but I feel like road/neutral top 15 wins should be a tier of their own.
The good thing is RPI is really only used to factor in the tiers.
The good thing is RPI is really only used to factor in the tiers.
Except isn't the performance against tiers is a primary tool used to rank/seed teams? So RPI is obviously still one of the most important stats for ranking teams, even if it's not used directly.
My problem with the tier thing would be that it waters down really good wins. A win at home against TCU shouldn't be anywhere near a win @Virginia. I guess you have to draw the line somewhere in trying to simplify the process but I feel like road/neutral top 15 wins should be a tier of their own.
osu not being on that list is a complete joke and travesty.
osu not being on that list is a complete joke and travesty.
kso_FAN should probably take Nebraska and Penn State off as they have no chance to play themselves in at this point. They both also have worse resumes than OSU, the committee values those quality wins.
osu not being on that list is a complete joke and travesty.
kso_FAN should probably take Nebraska and Penn State off as they have no chance to play themselves in at this point. They both also have worse resumes than OSU, the committee values those quality wins.
there are too many variables that hurt them right now.
there are too many variables that hurt them right now.
like what? they have 0 tier 3 losses, their tiers 1 and 2 records are comparable to teams considered safely in. the only thing i can see that people are using against them is a poor non con sos, which is simply ridiculous. they played good teams and beat good teams, if they did so more in january and february than november and december that should be a point in their favor, if anything.
I think the conference gets in 9 now. Teams are crumbling
I think the conference gets in 9 now. Teams are crumbling
I think we have 7 in right now. If Texas can beat Isu, I think they can avoid being in the Dayton games.
Q1 wins over Bama/Butler plus 5 good wins in B12 (Tech, WV, Tcu, at OU, OU). An SOS of 17 also helps.
If Baylor or Osu don't win their 1st game in KC, I think the chances of making it are pretty low
What's our highest seed in the matrix?
how is Missouri an 8 seed? I mean seriously
1) Asu, Usc, Ucla all 21-10 or 20-10. Asu has the fewest Q1/Q2 wins of the 3 teams, but do have the monster wins at Ku and Xavier on a neutral court. Asu with a Q3 loss, USC Q4 loss, Ucla 2 Q3 losses. So similar in their overall resumes
2) Texas Baylor and the Cows 8-10 with 13 overall loses. Like I mentioned I feel Texas is in the best shape. Any of these 3 teams would have benefited from having 1 more win (so just 12 losses). Ok St had a 1 point loss at Arkansas in a game they led late. They also let Roach make a driving layup with 1 second left in that 65-64 Texas win. Had Osu won either one of those, they would have a 6th Q1 win and their RPI would be in 70-72 range, not 86-88.
Lunardi has Bears in (and not in a Dayton game). I think they need to beat WV or they are likely OUT.
1) Asu, Usc, Ucla all 21-10 or 20-10. Asu has the fewest Q1/Q2 wins of the 3 teams, but do have the monster wins at Ku and Xavier on a neutral court. Asu with a Q3 loss, USC Q4 loss, Ucla 2 Q3 losses. So similar in their overall resumes
2) Texas Baylor and the Cows 8-10 with 13 overall loses. Like I mentioned I feel Texas is in the best shape. Any of these 3 teams would have benefited from having 1 more win (so just 12 losses). Ok St had a 1 point loss at Arkansas in a game they led late. They also let Roach make a driving layup with 1 second left in that 65-64 Texas win. Had Osu won either one of those, they would have a 6th Q1 win and their RPI would be in 70-72 range, not 86-88.
Lunardi has Bears in (and not in a Dayton game). I think they need to beat WV or they are likely OUT.
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Just compare OSU and UT. Their resume's are nearly the same except for the number of Q3/Q4 games, which is what is killing OSU's RPI.
For sure. Amazing that it results in 40 spots in the RPI.
Seton Hall #27 (.6013 rating)
Texas # 48 (.5761)
Osu #88 (.5515)
The RPI rating difference is slightly more between 27 & 48, than 48 & 88. That's unfortunate for Osu, but it is what it is.
I don't understand why Mich State isn't a unanimous #1 seed. I really don't get how KU is ahead of them.
This tier thing is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
it looks like st. mary’s is going to lose this semifinal to byu by double digits. no way they should be in the tournament if this plays out.
Fan, in these lesser known conferences, are there any league tournament upsets that are skewing the predicted bracket. I see some predictions leaving out KSU. How many B12 tourny games should we win. Is a 10 seed bad?
Fan, in these lesser known conferences, are there any league tournament upsets that are skewing the predicted bracket. I see some predictions leaving out KSU. How many B12 tourny games should we win. Is a 10 seed bad?
I'd say a 10 seed is better than an 8/9, but you want to be as highly seeded as possible.
There could be upsets in 1 or 2 leagues that steal a bid. For example, Middle Tennessee could get an at large if someone else wins their conference tournament. I'm honestly not that worried after really looking at the teams around us an below us. Our wins and road record are better than most. I don't believe OOC SOS will be that high of a factor to knock us out, especially when you see that we've played the same number or more Tier 1/2 games as anyone else in the 8-11 seed range.
Another reason to feel confident is that there is no track record of us getting screwed so we shouldn't even worry about it I don't know why I'm bringing it up 20/10/4 169/170 #RIPHuggs
I don't understand why Mich State isn't a unanimous #1 seed. I really don't get how KU is ahead of them.
This tier thing is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Can't just look at the 4 losses. Yes Sparty having only 3 & 5 on Q1-Q2 wins is a big reason. They also have a 82 SOS
Nova Virginia Xavier Ku Duke all have a top 15 SOS and between 13-18 Q1-Q2 wins
St Mary's best wins are Gonzaga, New Mexico State, and BYU. Losses to Washington State and Georgia in the OOC. They should be out.
Back to our fun comparison with Jaime's TCU Horned Frogs....
TCU - 6 seed lock. 3-8 quad 1, 6-2 quad 2, 3-7 on the road. 12-0 vs tiers 3/4. 1-5 vs the top 3 in the Big 12.
KSU - 10 seedish. 3-7 quad 1, 6-3 quad 2. 6-5 on the road. 12-0 vs tiers 3/4. 0-6 vs the top 3 in the Big 12.
But a 40 spot difference in the RPI and 4 seed lines between these 2 teams.
Kstate has 3/6 on the Q1-Q2 wins.
Butler & Creighton both 3/4
Butler has 1 Q3 loss. Other 2 teams don't.
Butler & Creighton only have 1 road win vs the 2 Tiers that count. Kstate has 5 vs the Q1-Q2
Sos - Butler 26 CU 45 Ksu 77. So Butler has the Strongest SOS but they also have 12 losses. Ksu and Cu have 10.
Back to our fun comparison with Jaime's TCU Horned Frogs....
TCU - 6 seed lock. 3-8 quad 1, 6-2 quad 2, 3-7 on the road. 12-0 vs tiers 3/4. 1-5 vs the top 3 in the Big 12.
KSU - 10 seedish. 3-7 quad 1, 6-3 quad 2. 6-5 on the road. 12-0 vs tiers 3/4. 0-6 vs the top 3 in the Big 12.
But a 40 spot difference in the RPI and 4 seed lines between these 2 teams.
Counting tier wins is a stupid and lazy way to do this.
the 40 spot difference in RPI has nothing to do with quad/tier/away records. TCU has 12 top 100 wins, KSU has 9. TCU's SOS is #7, KSU's is #77.
however, based on the quad/tier/away records, there is no way they should be 4 seeds better. those are VERY similar resumes, as far as the seeding procedure is concerned.
the committee must factor NCSOS stronger than we all think (TCU 42, KSU 326)
Actually Sparty is 3/5 on Q1-Q2 (8 total)
Sorry, I can't make you happy FSD. I actually have them as a 3 seed (#10 overall). I do think they are a top 4-5 team on eye test, but seeding isn't about eye tests.
Counting tier wins is a stupid and lazy way to do this.
That may be, but when I look at it I try to use the same criteria as the committee to see where we are compared to the field. Doesn't matter if I like it or not.the 40 spot difference in RPI has nothing to do with quad/tier/away records. TCU has 12 top 100 wins, KSU has 9. TCU's SOS is #7, KSU's is #77.
however, based on the quad/tier/away records, there is no way they should be 4 seeds better. those are VERY similar resumes, as far as the seeding procedure is concerned.
the committee must factor NCSOS stronger than we all think (TCU 42, KSU 326)
Yes they are, and that is the criteria the committee is talking about.
As to point 2, we don't know that for sure, but we do know that the bracketologists do.
Another reason to feel confident is that there is no track record of us getting screwed so we shouldn't even worry about it I don't know why I'm bringing it up 20/10/4 169/170 #RIPHuggs
Tech deserved it over us. Our resume just wasn't that good.
KSU 2007 quality wins:
@ 25 UT
Neutral 39 USC
@ 63 Mizzou
58 OU
63 Mizzou
Neutral 71 Tech
82 NU
Tech 2007 quality wins:
@ 7 aTm
5 KU
7 aTm
@ 42 Arkansas
@ 57 KSU
58 OU
74 OSU
It’s a fair critique, but I think if he had the chance to clarify he’d say he doesn’t mean that discounts their win, but that he just doesn’t view it equally with a win against the same team if they held a comfortable lead the entire game for example.
I certainly feel like K-State is a lock for a bye with some his feelings about rewarding teams who win the games they’re supposed to.
he just doesn’t view it equally with a win against the same team if they held a comfortable lead the entire game for example.
KState is always going to be underseeded. Hell, the Cats could go 25-5 and win the league next year then get a #2 seed. It's partially because no one will take Weber seriously because he sounds like Marge Simpson when talking.
i like most of his thinking, but not his emphasis on subjective, almost aesthetic judgements and modifiers of a team's achievements. certainly they should not over-emphasize a single game, but the idea of almost discounting a team's best win because they hit a lot of threes or whatever is simply inappropriate.
those seeds were about selling ticketsKState is always going to be underseeded. Hell, the Cats could go 25-5 and win the league next year then get a #2 seed. It's partially because no one will take Weber seriously because he sounds like Marge Simpson when talking.
Another person trying to put some of the fault on Weber, when he has nothing to do with it.
For the most part, Ksu has got seeded where I thought they would. Last year, 2014, 2010, 2012 were exactly where I thought. Beasley's year I thought we deserved better than a 11. Pullen's senior year I thought we would get a 6 and got a 5. McGruder's senior year, I thought we had a shot at a 3, but got a 4
FSU lost. NC st Lost.
Matrix had them #34 #35 (and Cats #38)
I had them 1 and 2 spots ahead of us
Beat Tcu and I think it's almost a given we are in 8 vs 9 game at worst
This is why I barely care about our seed right now. A 7 vs a 10 seed? Meh, theoretically we play an easier opponent as a 7, but really we all know it's more about matchups than seed when we're talking about those seeds. And yes, would rather be a 10 than an 8 or 9. With 6 out of reach, it's hard to care too much.FSU lost. NC st Lost.
Matrix had them #34 #35 (and Cats #38)
I had them 1 and 2 spots ahead of us
Beat Tcu and I think it's almost a given we are in 8 vs 9 game at worst
I'd rather be a 10, or win a bunch and get to a 7. I don't want anything with a 8/9 game.
ASU just lost to Colorado :dunno:Wasn't barely losing to them our best accomplishment in the non-con?
ASU just lost to Colorado :dunno:Wasn't barely losing to them our best accomplishment in the non-con?
I mean, I know what you are saying, but they are as much the same team as anyone else is from the beginning to the end of a season. What is the representative sample size for a given team for a comparison to have any meaning?ASU just lost to Colorado :dunno:Wasn't barely losing to them our best accomplishment in the non-con?
They aren't the same team they we faced or beat Xavier & Ku. They are trending the wrong way (lost 5 of 6)
This is why I barely care about our seed right now. A 7 vs a 10 seed? Meh, theoretically we play an easier opponent as a 7, but really we all know it's more about matchups than seed when we're talking about those seeds. And yes, would rather be a 10 than an 8 or 9. With 6 out of reach, it's hard to care too much.FSU lost. NC st Lost.
Matrix had them #34 #35 (and Cats #38)
I had them 1 and 2 spots ahead of us
Beat Tcu and I think it's almost a given we are in 8 vs 9 game at worst
I'd rather be a 10, or win a bunch and get to a 7. I don't want anything with a 8/9 game.
those seeds were about selling ticketsKState is always going to be underseeded. Hell, the Cats could go 25-5 and win the league next year then get a #2 seed. It's partially because no one will take Weber seriously because he sounds like Marge Simpson when talking.
Another person trying to put some of the fault on Weber, when he has nothing to do with it.
For the most part, Ksu has got seeded where I thought they would. Last year, 2014, 2010, 2012 were exactly where I thought. Beasley's year I thought we deserved better than a 11. Pullen's senior year I thought we would get a 6 and got a 5. McGruder's senior year, I thought we had a shot at a 3, but got a 4
What a weird team. They were so hot in the non-con and then crap the bed in a bad P5 conference. Are they filled with FR? Maybe they didn't have the legs or something.I mean, I know what you are saying, but they are as much the same team as anyone else is from the beginning to the end of a season. What is the representative sample size for a given team for a comparison to have any meaning?ASU just lost to Colorado :dunno:Wasn't barely losing to them our best accomplishment in the non-con?
They aren't the same team they we faced or beat Xavier & Ku. They are trending the wrong way (lost 5 of 6)
SOS, RPI, etc have decided that the sample size is the season. :dunno:
I was 100% agreeing with your earlier post.This is why I barely care about our seed right now. A 7 vs a 10 seed? Meh, theoretically we play an easier opponent as a 7, but really we all know it's more about matchups than seed when we're talking about those seeds. And yes, would rather be a 10 than an 8 or 9. With 6 out of reach, it's hard to care too much.FSU lost. NC st Lost.
Matrix had them #34 #35 (and Cats #38)
I had them 1 and 2 spots ahead of us
Beat Tcu and I think it's almost a given we are in 8 vs 9 game at worst
I'd rather be a 10, or win a bunch and get to a 7. I don't want anything with a 8/9 game.
I think you're dancing around what I am getting at, but to me it's all about the 2nd round matchup vs the 2/15 seed than it is vs the 1 seed. I know 1's aren't infallible once you get to that second round, and it's also kinda lolers to think about the next matchup when oscar has a real hard time making it to the next round, but 2 seeds IMO are more vulnerable that 1's, and they do also seem to have a 15 upset a 2 ever other tourny or so, so you got a chance against a more beatable team, and then the potential of playing a 15 anyways. You never have that in the 8/9 slot. Plus, you got more of that shot of having a FF Kentucky-like team from that level in that game.
If you are going to be a lower seed, the 7/10, or if you can get to a 6, are the ideal. I dislike 8/9's.
I would love to match their non-con wins vs other teams tho. 2 wins vs possible 1 seeds and us. Not sure who else they beat until they finally lost in conference.
One thing to bear in mind regarding seeding is that with the Big 12 getting as many teams as we're going to get, with the tournament profiles so close, there's going to be some weird seeding. Some seed lines will deviate a couple of lines from where they're projected to make the field work with all of the bracketing rules in place.the fact that they are selecting the teams and then seeding them/building the bracket on sunday is going to be very strange.
I'm kinda excited for that. Sounds kinda fun.One thing to bear in mind regarding seeding is that with the Big 12 getting as many teams as we're going to get, with the tournament profiles so close, there's going to be some weird seeding. Some seed lines will deviate a couple of lines from where they're projected to make the field work with all of the bracketing rules in place.the fact that they are selecting the teams and then seeding them/building the bracket on sunday is going to be very strange.
One thing to bear in mind regarding seeding is that with the Big 12 getting as many teams as we're going to get, with the tournament profiles so close, there's going to be some weird seeding. Some seed lines will deviate a couple of lines from where they're projected to make the field work with all of the bracketing rules in place.the fact that they are selecting the teams and then seeding them/building the bracket on sunday is going to be very strange.
For the sake of transparency, and mega ratings, the NCAA should live stream the selection committee's full deliberation process.
I would love all of that crap. I'd like for them to finally admit too that they look at bracketology's to make their job easier.
For the sake of transparency, and mega ratings, the NCAA should live stream the selection committee's full deliberation process.I would love all of that crap. I'd like for them to finally admit too that they look at bracketology's to make their job easier.
They definitely don't look at bracket projections. The process is pretty transparent and that's why it's relatively easy to project the field. They invite media to do a mock process within the year using.the actual metrics on the team sheets. Seeding would be the only thing remotely worth watching and that process takes three to four days, that would be pretty dry to watch on Facebook live or YouTube.
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Interesting that OU is considered possible a last 4 in, and OSU is considered a 1st 4 out. How is that even close to justifiable?osu is going to move up no matter what. its all dependent on who else loses today. ie notre dame, ucla, texas, marquette. i think louisville is out but thats just my opinion
I've decided I don't like the new selection show format since I really like the anticipation that builds when you go through the brackets. Like last year, I perked up every time they announced the 10-12 seeds. With the cats safely off the bubble it doesn't make much of a difference this year, but I still think it robs the event of a little excitement.
an 8/9 vs mizzou would be funWe would eff those guys up so hard.
an 8/9 vs mizzou would be fun
^MTSU is going to take an at-large spot too
Aren't you missing an 11 seed?
Point me to the thread that it’s talked about. Nigel Johnson is playing significant minutes for the number 1 team in the country.
So anyone know how they’re going to announce the field tonight? By conference, alphabetically, or by actual seed order?
I knew about the new two step thing, just curious how exactly they’re going to announce the field.
I knew about the new two step thing, just curious how exactly they’re going to announce the field.
1-68 alphabetically.
I knew about the new two step thing, just curious how exactly they’re going to announce the field.
1-68 alphabetically.
You sure? I thought they were only announcing the at larges alphabetically.
CBS Sports and Turner Sports announced on Tuesday a format tweak for the Selection Show, which will air Sunday, March 11, at 6 p.m. ET. The show will be broadcast with a live studio audience, and every team in the field -- all 68 -- will be revealed within the first 10 minutes of the start of the show.
After the 68 teams are known, the bracket matchups will be released over the course of 30 minutes.
"The Selection Show will begin with the announcement of all 68 tournament teams, followed by the release of the brackets and match-ups, with analysis, discussion, interviews and reactions from teams as they find out if they made the 'Dance,' along with their region, seeding and opponent," according to the press release from CBS Sports and Turner Sports. "Hosts Ernie Johnson and Greg Gumbel will be joined by analysts Clark Kellogg, Charles Barkley, Seth Davis and Kenny Smith in Atlanta. Selection Committee Chair oscar Rasmussen will also join Adam Zucker from CBS Studios in New York."
This means the revamped Selection Show will eventually provide two reveals. First, teams find out if they're in. Once all the schools who made it are known, then the show will peel back on the regions and unsheathe the brackets.
Sounds fun to me. :dunno:
So, uh, we’re like for sure gonna make it right?
Stolen bid alert
Atlantic 10
Field is now set
Do they officially avoid conference matchups for the first two rounds or is that a myth?
What about the likelihood of a an 8/9 and a 1 from the same conference?
creighton, whom i have extensively scouted this season, is going to roll us
creighton, whom i have extensively scouted this season, is going to roll us
they beat no one away from their home court. St Johns and then Ucla on a neutral court
3-6 vs Seton Hall, Providence, Butler, Marquette
The Flush says bring it on
holy crap I have a work trip in Charlotte Friday
creighton, whom i have extensively scouted this season, is going to roll us
they beat no one away from their home court. St Johns and then Ucla on a neutral court
3-6 vs Seton Hall, Providence, Butler, Marquette
The Flush says bring it on
People losing their crap about Syracuse, AGAIN, but the most egregious thing Rasmussen said was that Notre Dame was the first team out? WTF? They lost to freaking Indiana and Ball State with Bonzie Colson in the damn lineup.
I thought ND deserved it over Cuse personally. Also definitely fair to put Baylor on the other side of the cut line, but I feel that OSU had at least as good a claim as ASU and they weren’t even mentioned.
creighton, whom i have extensively scouted this season, is going to roll us
they beat no one away from their home court. St Johns and then Ucla on a neutral court
3-6 vs Seton Hall, Providence, Butler, Marquette
The Flush says bring it on
now would be a good time for you to look at our road record
Final Projections--
#1-12
Virginia Nova Ku Xavier
UNC Duke Purdue Cincy
Tenn Sparty Mich WV
#13-24
Auburn Arizona WSU TTech
UK Clemson Zags OhioSt
Houston Fla aTm Miami
#25-36
Arkansas TCU Nevada RIU
Mizzou SHall VTech Kstate
Providence StBony Bama NCSt
#37-46
Butler USC OU FSU
Last 4 - Creighton/Ucla Texas/ASU
Loyola-Chicago, SDSU
* Davidson did upset RIU. Bubble spot lost. Sorry Marquette.
Idea for the mods: can we add a bracketology tab on gE and see about getting some combo of PP and _fan’s predictos added to the bracket matrix?
Sounds pretty good. I appreciated reading your predictos :thumbs:
Sounds pretty good. I appreciated reading your predictos :thumbs:
Yes, nice job PP!
Sounds pretty good. I appreciated reading your predictos :thumbs:
Yes, nice job PP!
Thanks guys. I enjoy doing it. I was able to get 36 of the 46 teams within 0-2 spots of their "overall seed" so I felt like I did somewhat good. But Creighton, St Bony and WV I missed the boat I guess.
At least KState got in the 8 vs 9 game like many thought ( just wish Xavier was our 1 seed)
Sounds pretty good. I appreciated reading your predictos :thumbs:
Yes, nice job PP!
Thanks guys. I enjoy doing it. I was able to get 36 of the 46 teams within 0-2 spots of their "overall seed" so I felt like I did somewhat good. But Creighton, St Bony and WV I missed the boat I guess.
At least KState got in the 8 vs 9 game like many thought ( just wish Xavier was our 1 seed)
PP I think the only difference in Xavier or UVA is we'd lose by 8-10 against Xavier and 15-20 against UVA
Not that anyone cares about the NIT but if they seed the way they normally do, bubble darling Oklahoma State, may not even get a home game with their atrocious RPI.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/sports/colleges/basketball/march-madness-dancing-mascots/?utm_term=.0a4eea8d9148
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I guess we have to take the NCAA at their word when they say they don't orchestrate match-ups.
Although the KSU/Foster game is juicy, the committee could have easily put Mizzou in the same bracket as KU and also had A&M and UT play in the first round.
South Carolina appears to have not made the field this year. How sad.
that Kentucky Arizona matchup is so hot, wow. 2 blue blood conf tourney champs in the 2nd round
I guess we have to take the NCAA at their word when they say they don't orchestrate match-ups.
Although the KSU/Foster game is juicy, the committee could have easily put Mizzou in the same bracket as KU and also had A&M and UT play in the first round.
that Kentucky Arizona matchup is so hot, wow. 2 blue blood conf tourney champs in the 2nd round
Just an unreal Rd of 32 matchup.I guess we have to take the NCAA at their word when they say they don't orchestrate match-ups.
Although the KSU/Foster game is juicy, the committee could have easily put Mizzou in the same bracket as KU and also had A&M and UT play in the first round.
How bout Wichita St playing Marshall. Interesting side plot there too
that Kentucky Arizona matchup is so hot, wow. 2 blue blood conf tourney champs in the 2nd round
Just an unreal Rd of 32 matchup.I guess we have to take the NCAA at their word when they say they don't orchestrate match-ups.
Although the KSU/Foster game is juicy, the committee could have easily put Mizzou in the same bracket as KU and also had A&M and UT play in the first round.
How bout Wichita St playing Marshall. Interesting side plot there too
The only thing I've got is that WSU's head coach's name is Marshall. What am I missing? :dunno:
Both had football teams in disastrous plane crashes.that Kentucky Arizona matchup is so hot, wow. 2 blue blood conf tourney champs in the 2nd round
Just an unreal Rd of 32 matchup.I guess we have to take the NCAA at their word when they say they don't orchestrate match-ups.
Although the KSU/Foster game is juicy, the committee could have easily put Mizzou in the same bracket as KU and also had A&M and UT play in the first round.
How bout Wichita St playing Marshall. Interesting side plot there too
The only thing I've got is that WSU's head coach's name is Marshall. What am I missing? :dunno:
Omg. That's why I shouldn't post when I only slept 4 hours last night. Greg coached at Winthrop before coaching at Wsu. Yep, I'm stupid this morning
Willie "Strong Bad" the Wildcat
Listened to ESPN radio a bit the other day and they said 97% of the money was on KSU, by far the biggest edge in the tournament.
Listened to ESPN radio a bit the other day and they said 97% of the money was on KSU, by far the biggest edge in the tournament.
Listened to ESPN radio a bit the other day and they said 97% of the money was on KSU, by far the biggest edge in the tournament.
bullshit
Damn, my middle school memory failed me. Well played, Dlew.
creighton, whom i have extensively scouted this season, is going to roll us
they beat no one away from their home court. St Johns and then Ucla on a neutral court
3-6 vs Seton Hall, Providence, Butler, Marquette
The Flush says bring it on
I don't think it's crazy to think a school like K-State could have a couple sweet sixteen appearances each decade. Until we stopped trying to win at basketball for like two decades that would have been a conservative expectation. Basketball landscape has changed, so it's not as easy for us to have that rate of success, but it's not like some kind of pipe dream or something to expect a couple short runs every ten years..I wonder how many schools have multiple sweet 16s over the last 10 years
i'm glad you asked. 35 different schools have multiple sweet 16 appearances in the last 10 years (2008-2017).
here is the list:
7 Kansas, Michigan State, North Carolina, Wisconsin
6 Arizona, Duke, Kentucky, Louisville, Xavier
5 Florida, Syracuse
4 Baylor, Gonzaga, Ohio State, UCLA, West Virginia
3 Butler, UConn, Indiana, Marquette, Michigan, Oklahoma, Oregon, Purdue, Tennessee, Villanova
2 Iowa State, Memphis, Miami (FL), NC State, Notre Dame, San Diego State, Stanford, Virginia, Wichita State
24 other schools have made the sweet 16 exactly once in that span:
BYU
Cincinnati
Cornell
Davidson
Dayton
Florida State
Florida-GC
Kansas State
La Salle
Maryland
Missouri
Northern Iowa
Ohio
Pittsburgh
Richmond
South Carolina
St. Mary's
Texas
Texas A&M
Utah
VCU
Washington
Washington State
Western Kentucky
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i went ahead and did elite 8 appearances also for the same 10 year period (2008-2017)
of the 35 teams who made the sweet 16 multiple times, 28 made it to the elite 8 at least once:
6 Kentucky, North Carolina
5 Florida, Kansas, Louisville
4 Michigan State
3 Arizona, Duke, Syracuse, UConn
2 Baylor, Butler, Gonzaga, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, Villanova, Wisconsin, Xavier
1 Marquette, Memphis, Tennessee, UCLA, Virginia, West Virginia, Wichita State
the other 7 schools were skunked
0 for 3: Indiana, Purdue
0 for 2: Iowa State, Miami (FL), NC State, San Diego State, Stanford
6 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into an elite 8 appearance:
Davidson '08
Texas '08
Missouri '09
Pittsburgh '09
Kansas State '10
Dayton '14
2 schools turned their only sweet 16 appearance into a final four run:
VCU '11
South Carolina '17
final fours (2008-2017)
4 Kentucky, North Carolina
3 Michigan State, UConn
2 Butler, Duke, Kansas, Louisville, Syracuse, Villanova, Wisconsin
1 Florida, Gonzaga, Memphis, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, UCLA, VCU, West Virginia, Wichita State
if you want to use a 10 year span of tournament results to judge a program, maybe we can come up with some tiers
A++ tier (3+ final fours) 4 schools
A+ tier (2+ final fours) 11 schools
A tier (2+ elite eights) 21 schools
B+ tier (1+ final four) 23 schools
B tier (1+ elite eight) 36 schools
B- tier (2+ sweet sixteens) 35 schools
C tier (1+ sweet sixteen) 59 schools
Trash tier (no sweet sixteens) no idea how many, probably a crap ton like 292 or something
the Trash tier could probably be split up into schools that have made the tournament at least X number of times, and schools that have not, but that's more work and it doesn't matter
ADVANTAGE: MICHIGAN
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-11-01/andy-katz-filled-out-preseason-ncaa-tournament-bracket-letsWould take, but we aren't going to be a 3 seed.
Why not? :frown:
Next Four Out
Kansas State
Are Oklahoma and Iowa State really regarded as better than the Cats this year? What am I missing? I thought we had an advantage in Quad 1 wins or what not? But I'm also a basketball moron so...
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology (http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology)QuoteNext Four Out
Kansas State
:shakesfist:
Are Oklahoma and Iowa State really regarded as better than the Cats this year? What am I missing? I thought we had an advantage in Quad 1 wins or what not? But I'm also a basketball moron so...
Both had much better non-con results than us.
Are Oklahoma and Iowa State really regarded as better than the Cats this year? What am I missing? I thought we had an advantage in Quad 1 wins or what not? But I'm also a basketball moron so...
Both had much better non-con results than us.
They have better kenpom ranking.Are Oklahoma and Iowa State really regarded as better than the Cats this year? What am I missing? I thought we had an advantage in Quad 1 wins or what not? But I'm also a basketball moron so...
Both had much better non-con results than us.
The non-con overall doesn't really matter though does it? The only ones that matter are the wins in Q1/Q2 and the losses you have in Q4 and SoS, (which the Cats are better in both). No way does OU/ISU have really any better of resume than the Cats.
We don't even show up in Jerry Palm's bracket.
In the past the committee has placed value on the ability to win games against tournament teams.
In the past the committee has placed value on the ability to win games against tournament teams.
if we become "the exception" for these kind of things again, i will be very angry
Do you honestly think we don’t at 9-9?
it's not winning 20+ games, going 10-6 and 9-7 and making the NIT levels of screwed, but it's definitely a solid 6.5 on the screwed scale.
i also think what the team is like now should be a lot more heavily weighted than the beginning when we were figuring crap out, had covid, etc. i don't know how much they factor that in, but it's very logical, and if they stupidly don't factor that in and you want to take that side, then :dunno:
It’s been touched on, but I definitely think that COVID protocols should push the committee to place significantly more emphasis on quality wins as opposed to “bad” losses. I’m not exactly sure of KSU’s situation but just as a hypothetical it seems unfair to effectively credit a team for “avoiding” a loss by having too many players out due to COVID vs. a team that played and lost a game extremely undermanned.In the past the committee has placed value on the ability to win games against tournament teams.
if we become "the exception" for these kind of things again, i will be very angry
There is no scenario, if K-State gets left out of the tournament, that we would be considered an exception. Iowa State, WVU, and K-State have just lost too many games.
It’s been touched on, but I definitely think that COVID protocols should push the committee to place significantly more emphasis on quality wins as opposed to “bad” losses. I’m not exactly sure of KSU’s situation but just as a hypothetical it seems unfair to effectively credit a team for “avoiding” a loss by having too many players out due to COVID vs. a team that played and lost a game extremely undermanned.In the past the committee has placed value on the ability to win games against tournament teams.
if we become "the exception" for these kind of things again, i will be very angry
There is no scenario, if K-State gets left out of the tournament, that we would be considered an exception. Iowa State, WVU, and K-State have just lost too many games.
Top 16 Seeds
1: Kansas, Purdue, UConn, Arizona
2: Houston, UCLA, Alabama, Tennessee
3: Gonzaga, Arkansas, Virginia, TCU
4: Xavier, Wisconsin, Miami, Kansas State
ALBANY
4 Kansas St.
13 Utah Valley
If we go 10-8 in conference and beat UF for the final non con game we will be 22-9 with a crap ton of Q1 wins. I don’t think a 4-6 seed is out of the question and winning 8/16 big 12 games isn’t either.
:surprised: :surprised:
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-projecting-2023-march-madness-men-fieldQuoteALBANY
4 Kansas St.
13 Utah Valley
I was like oh cool a regional in NYC!!! I should go and so I went to ticketmaster and :sdeek:
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Those prices in shitty Albany too. :Yuck:
It's amazing how quickly we have gone from very underrated to somewhat overrated.My feeling exactly
yepIt's amazing how quickly we have gone from very underrated to somewhat overrated.My feeling exactly
they have to seed us on what we’ve done, not what we should be doing or what we’re going to do or anything else. it’s a snapshot in time, not suggesting we’re going to end the season as a four.
based on what we have done, we’re easily a four seed and maybe even a 3. so not overrated and possibly underrated. thank you for listening and GO CATS!
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
I don't think we're overseeded either, I think we are overated. People think our current form is sustainable, I don't, not even close. I think we'll spend most of the season on the bubble.
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
I don't think we're overseeded either, I think we are overated. People think our current form is sustainable, I don't, not even close. I think we'll spend most of the season on the bubble.
-Top 6 in the league
-9 seed
-First-round win
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
I don't think we're overseeded either, I think we are overated. People think our current form is sustainable, I don't, not even close. I think we'll spend most of the season on the bubble.
-Top 6 in the league
-9 seed
-First-round win
I would like to amend this prediction:
-Top 6 in the league
-7 seed
-Sweet 16 appearance
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
I don't think we're overseeded either, I think we are overated. People think our current form is sustainable, I don't, not even close. I think we'll spend most of the season on the bubble.
So all is this, bin it. I believe, if we're overrated go ahead and count me with those overrating this team. We're Big 12 title contenders. This might be the best team we've seen at K-State, certainly the best the last 35 years. Holy crap
-Top 6 in the league
-9 seed
-First-round win
I would like to amend this prediction:
-Top 6 in the league
-7 seed
-Sweet 16 appearance
I think top 4 in league and a 5 seed is where we'll be
i was more arguing that we weren’t overseeded
I don't think we're overseeded either, I think we are overated. People think our current form is sustainable, I don't, not even close. I think we'll spend most of the season on the bubble.
So all is this, bin it. I believe, if we're overrated go ahead and count me with those overrating this team. We're Big 12 title contenders. This might be the best team we've seen at K-State, certainly the best the last 35 years. Holy crap
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Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
There won't be any WTF drops because outside of Florida, there are no bad teams left. I think OSU is the worst team in the conference and they should have had KU at least in overtime, at the pissbarn. We'll definitely drop some games, but I'm calling it now that we'll be the only team to win at Texas and at Baylor.
Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
There won't be any WTF drops because outside of Florida, there are no bad teams left. I think OSU is the worst team in the conference and they should have had KU at least in overtime, at the pissbarn. We'll definitely drop some games, but I'm calling it now that we'll be the only team to win at Texas and at Baylor.
Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
There won't be any WTF drops because outside of Florida, there are no bad teams left. I think OSU is the worst team in the conference and they should have had KU at least in overtime, at the pissbarn. We'll definitely drop some games, but I'm calling it now that we'll be the only team to win at Texas and at Baylor.
Not trying to be an asshat but TCU has already won at Baylor.
Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
There won't be any WTF drops because outside of Florida, there are no bad teams left. I think OSU is the worst team in the conference and they should have had KU at least in overtime, at the pissbarn. We'll definitely drop some games, but I'm calling it now that we'll be the only team to win at Texas and at Baylor.
Not trying to be an asshat but TCU has already won at Baylor.
I know
Hard to disagree after we’ve done it this consistently. I mean, beating a super desperate Baylor at home to me is worth more than pantsing a Beard-less Texas team.
We very well might have some WTF drops, but this team has shown enough to believe they can be competitive in every single game.
There won't be any WTF drops because outside of Florida, there are no bad teams left. I think OSU is the worst team in the conference and they should have had KU at least in overtime, at the pissbarn. We'll definitely drop some games, but I'm calling it now that we'll be the only team to win at Texas and at Baylor.
Not trying to be an asshat but TCU has already won at Baylor.
I know
Ah, my bad....you meant we will be the only team to win at both places.
That's crazy, we haven't beaten the crap out of anybody with a pulse all year
That's crazy, we haven't beaten the crap out of anybody with a pulse all yearFirst of all this is not at all accurate. Second, if we hadn't beat the crap out of Texas, on their home court, margin of victory has literally never been a metric for seeding.
I've heard Jerry Palm say the winner of the Big 12 is getting a #1 seed, we're leading the Big 12 so I don't know if it's much more to it than that.
Not sure I can accepted anything else now that I've tasted a 1 seed.
Would the Big 12 really dish out 4 trophies in that scenario?All four 1 seeds would be from the b12 according to Jerry Palm
I’ve always said Jerry Palm is the premier bracketologist in all the land
I've heard Jerry Palm say the winner of the Big 12 is getting a #1 seed, we're leading the Big 12 so I don't know if it's much more to it than that.
I suppose so.
Kenpom is projecting a 4 way tie for 1st at 11-7, lol. That would be bananas
Almost all b12 games will be close and could go either wayI've heard Jerry Palm say the winner of the Big 12 is getting a #1 seed, we're leading the Big 12 so I don't know if it's much more to it than that.
I suppose so.
Kenpom is projecting a 4 way tie for 1st at 11-7, lol. That would be bananas
Yeah, pretty safe bet that K-State isn't finishing 5-6. His algo's got K-State, OU, OSU, West Virginia all finishing the conference season 5-6
TO rate is what probably scares me most. Hopefully we can clean that up. If we don’t I could see us losing quite a few down the stretch.
Almost all b12 games will be close and could go either wayI've heard Jerry Palm say the winner of the Big 12 is getting a #1 seed, we're leading the Big 12 so I don't know if it's much more to it than that.
I suppose so.
Kenpom is projecting a 4 way tie for 1st at 11-7, lol. That would be bananas
Yeah, pretty safe bet that K-State isn't finishing 5-6. His algo's got K-State, OU, OSU, West Virginia all finishing the conference season 5-6
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2023-march-madness-men-field-predictionsdream bracket
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https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2023-march-madness-men-field-predictions
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If we win 2 more games and don’t get the 3 seed in the Midwest bracket we literally burn down the NCAA HQ
You have as many final 4’s in my lifetime as I have fingers, just let us have this one.
Hey they gonna keep KU outta KC?Could be better to be the 5th/6th overall than 3rd/4th.
If we win 2 more games and don’t get the 3 seed in the Midwest bracket we literally burn down the NCAA HQ
If we win 2 more games and don’t get the 3 seed in the Midwest bracket we literally burn down the NCAA HQ
We have absolutely no business being a 3 seed
If we win 2 more games and don’t get the 3 seed in the Midwest bracket we literally burn down the NCAA HQ
We have absolutely no business being a 3 seed
If we win 2 more games and don’t get the 3 seed in the Midwest bracket we literally burn down the NCAA HQ
We have absolutely no business being a 3 seed
Why settle for a 3 seed when a 2 seed is available
Lunardi moved us to the 2 line:If KU wins the regular season outright, I don't see any scenario where they move off the 1, unless there are mitigating factors, like a key injury. If Texas edges them out, and we beat Kansas and Texas on consecutive days in KC, I'd like our odds a lot better.
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2023-march-madness-men-field-predictions
Makes me wonder if (big if) winning out (so winning the next 3 games and 3 games in KC) would be enough to be a 1 seed.
If we win out, I think we get a 1 seed. Basically no chance we win out, though.
I very, very much enjoy debating about being a 1 seed or a 2 seed.It’s a very good feeling
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It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
Guys, this is really exciting. I think this team could to some real damage in the March Madness.It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
Assuming we win at least 1 of the final two regular season? 1 game IMO.
I think this is how I think it breaks down (not all scenarios but enough)
Reg season 0-2, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 1-1, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 0-1: 3 seed (maybe 2, probably good enough but I can see us being punished a bit)
Reg season 1-1, KC 1 to 3 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 1 to 2 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 3-0: 1 seed (yes, think we would/could)
It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
I think I would really enjoy the Cats winning the Big XII tournament! That would be so cool!
It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
Assuming we win at least 1 of the final two regular season? 1 game IMO.
I think this is how I think it breaks down (not all scenarios but enough)
Reg season 0-2, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 1-1, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 0-1: 3 seed (maybe 2, probably good enough but I can see us being punished a bit)
Reg season 1-1, KC 1 to 3 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 1 to 2 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 3-0: 1 seed (yes, think we would/could)
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
This is kinda false, the school allotments are small only because they release a good amount of tickets for everyone, also don't take CF3s advise, sorry bud. Most of the tickets, to all sites, aren't on sell yet. All tickets on sale now are just a small amount of tickets, really just for resale and to rip people off. The NCAA and the venues don't disclose when they actually release the tickets but I've been to the K-State KU Oklahoma City and KC pods along with going to two different Sweet 16/elite 8 sites and I've always paid face value from ticketmaster, not resold tickets. When we lost to Loyola in the elite 8 those final four tickets were there to get too but we couldn't finish the job.
I always buy my round 1 and 2 tickets the night of the selection show, but this year I've been checking ticketmaster every day waiting to see exactly when the tickets will be released.
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
This is kinda false, the school allotments are small only because they release a good amount of tickets for everyone, also don't take CF3s advise, sorry bud. Most of the tickets, to all sites, aren't on sell yet. All tickets on sale now are just a small amount of tickets, really just for resale and to rip people off. The NCAA and the venues don't disclose when they actually release the tickets but I've been to the K-State KU Oklahoma City and KC pods along with going to two different Sweet 16/elite 8 sites and I've always paid face value from ticketmaster, not resold tickets. When we lost to Loyola in the elite 8 those final four tickets were there to get too but we couldn't finish the job.
I always buy my round 1 and 2 tickets the night of the selection show, but this year I've been checking ticketmaster every day waiting to see exactly when the tickets will be released.
Thanks, I’ll start keeping an eye on Ticketmaster. Did I understand correctly that it’s a low probability of actually getting the tickets through the ksu ticket office?
I’ve never been to an NCAA tournament game, what’s the pro move on when to buy tickets if we end up somewhere like Denver or Des Moines? My understanding is the schools allotment is hilariously small and will be snatched up by only the biggest of donors.
This is kinda false, the school allotments are small only because they release a good amount of tickets for everyone, also don't take CF3s advise, sorry bud. Most of the tickets, to all sites, aren't on sell yet. All tickets on sale now are just a small amount of tickets, really just for resale and to rip people off. The NCAA and the venues don't disclose when they actually release the tickets but I've been to the K-State KU Oklahoma City and KC pods along with going to two different Sweet 16/elite 8 sites and I've always paid face value from ticketmaster, not resold tickets. When we lost to Loyola in the elite 8 those final four tickets were there to get too but we couldn't finish the job.
I always buy my round 1 and 2 tickets the night of the selection show, but this year I've been checking ticketmaster every day waiting to see exactly when the tickets will be released.
Thanks, I’ll start keeping an eye on Ticketmaster. Did I understand correctly that it’s a low probability of actually getting the tickets through the ksu ticket office?
Yeah, don't bother. Not unless you got a lot of Ahearn Points and did the post season ticket request.
i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
It's looking like we are a very solid bet to be a 2 seed. When they announce the brackets, I'll be looking for two things. First, that we are not in Purdue's bracket. Second, that we are not in KU's bracket. I would MUCH rather play Houston or Alabama if we made it to the elite 8.Thoughts on how many games we need to win in Kansas City to wrap up a 2 seed?
Assuming we win at least 1 of the final two regular season? 1 game IMO.
I think this is how I think it breaks down (not all scenarios but enough)
Reg season 0-2, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 1-1, KC 0-1: 3 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 0-1: 3 seed (maybe 2, probably good enough but I can see us being punished a bit)
Reg season 1-1, KC 1 to 3 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 1 to 2 wins: 2 seed
Reg season 2-0, KC 3-0: 1 seed (yes, think we would/could)
I think beating OU unofficially officially shuts the door on sliding to a four seed. After that its pretty complex with jockeying for position with UT and BU. I am not sure how Zaga comes into play.
i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
How ticketmaster handles NCAA tournament tickets hasn't changed a single bit in the last 20 years. The NCAA aren't interested in playing the same games that concert promoters are. To their credit, the NCAA does a great job of getting tickets in the hands of fans.
I easily got tickets to Charlotte against Creighton through KSU. Different team, different times.i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
I don't know what Ticketmaster has to do with this.
I easily got tickets to Charlotte against Creighton through KSU. Different team, different times.i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
I don't know what Ticketmaster has to do with this.
Oh, well, ticketmaster would be where you would get your NCAA tournament tickets and ticketmaster is also where you pretty much have no choice but to get your concert venue tickets and ticketmaster is ticketmaster so maybe you could understand why someone might be confused that ticketmaster doesn't handle their business the same for NCAA tournament games as they do for concerts...does that maybe help you better understand what i was getting at?
I easily got tickets to Charlotte against Creighton through KSU. Different team, different times.i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
I don't know what Ticketmaster has to do with this.
Oh, well, ticketmaster would be where you would get your NCAA tournament tickets and ticketmaster is also where you pretty much have no choice but to get your concert venue tickets and ticketmaster is ticketmaster so maybe you could understand why someone might be confused that ticketmaster doesn't handle their business the same for NCAA tournament games as they do for concerts...does that maybe help you better understand what i was getting at?
yes it does. But honestly I don't see the issue with like Taylor Swift as much of a Ticketmaster issue as it is a supply and demand issue. but I didn't get too worked up about it.
I easily got tickets to Charlotte against Creighton through KSU. Different team, different times.i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
I don't know what Ticketmaster has to do with this.
Oh, well, ticketmaster would be where you would get your NCAA tournament tickets and ticketmaster is also where you pretty much have no choice but to get your concert venue tickets and ticketmaster is ticketmaster so maybe you could understand why someone might be confused that ticketmaster doesn't handle their business the same for NCAA tournament games as they do for concerts...does that maybe help you better understand what i was getting at?
yes it does. But honestly I don't see the issue with like Taylor Swift as much of a Ticketmaster issue as it is a supply and demand issue. but I didn't get too worked up about it.
I'm not sure what supply and demand has to do with it...unless you are suggesting that $10,000 is a legit fair market value for a Taylor Swift concert ticket that the free market will bear (without ticketmaster holding its thumb on the scales)?
I easily got tickets to Charlotte against Creighton through KSU. Different team, different times.i remember going to the games in OKC and it was really not a big deal at all to get tix and at the time i was fresh outta college and making dick but even still, getting tickets was no biggie. Kinda crazy how the economics of tickets has fundamentally shifted since last time we needed to worry about getting tickets. Like the whole ticketmaster thing really came to a head in the last couple years, i don't think it was such a shitshow last time we went to the dance.
I don't know what Ticketmaster has to do with this.
Oh, well, ticketmaster would be where you would get your NCAA tournament tickets and ticketmaster is also where you pretty much have no choice but to get your concert venue tickets and ticketmaster is ticketmaster so maybe you could understand why someone might be confused that ticketmaster doesn't handle their business the same for NCAA tournament games as they do for concerts...does that maybe help you better understand what i was getting at?
yes it does. But honestly I don't see the issue with like Taylor Swift as much of a Ticketmaster issue as it is a supply and demand issue. but I didn't get too worked up about it.
I'm not sure what supply and demand has to do with it...unless you are suggesting that $10,000 is a legit fair market value for a Taylor Swift concert ticket that the free market will bear (without ticketmaster holding its thumb on the scales)?
yes I do think it is a legit fair market value for some Taylor Swift tickets in some markets
Absolute NCAA tournament nightmare fuel for K-State, shits actually hilarious
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I truly don't understand how Baylor continues to be ranked above us and getting projected as a 2 seed. Their loss on Saturday was arguably the worst in loss in the conference this season. They're scuffling a bit right now.
I truly don't understand how Baylor continues to be ranked above us and getting projected as a 2 seed. Their loss on Saturday was arguably the worst in loss in the conference this season. They're scuffling a bit right now.
Both fair points, neither speak to what kind of basketball team they are, right now.
I truly don't understand how Baylor continues to be ranked above us and getting projected as a 2 seed. Their loss on Saturday was arguably the worst in loss in the conference this season. They're scuffling a bit right now.
I truly don't understand how Baylor continues to be ranked above us and getting projected as a 2 seed. Their loss on Saturday was arguably the worst in loss in the conference this season. They're scuffling a bit right now.
baylor's noncon was top 3rd, ours was bottom 3rd. if they look like crap in the p66 and we play to seed, i'd imagine we'll switch seeds for the ncaa torny
2 just seems so much cooler than 3. I really want that 2 spot.Me too dude
2 just seems so much cooler than 3. I really want that 2 spot.Me too dude
I truly don't understand how Baylor continues to be ranked above us and getting projected as a 2 seed. Their loss on Saturday was arguably the worst in loss in the conference this season. They're scuffling a bit right now.
baylor's noncon was top 3rd, ours was bottom 3rd. if they look like crap in the p66 and we play to seed, i'd imagine we'll switch seeds for the ncaa torny
There's a pretty solid chance there's going to death storm 2023 in NY next Wed-Thur-Fri.
The YouTube weather dudes are saying it's setting up to potentially dump 2 feet over parts of NY
There's a pretty solid chance there's going to death storm 2023 in NY next Wed-Thur-Fri.
The YouTube weather dudes are saying it's setting up to potentially dump 2 feet over parts of NY
we play amaze during death storms.
You guys think Rusty says it like an east coaster now? Twornament.You know what other surprising east coast accent thing I've observed? Pronouncing "forward" as "foe-ward"
4 seed in Albany
Rusty and BAC licking their chops right now
Rusty and BAC licking their chops right now
Albany is practically Canada
In theory I can do a subway to Grand Central to Albany but for some reason the Albany arena is a 30 minute walk from the train station so I will probably driveAlso tickets are $90-130 one way :sdeek:
When are the actual brackets being announced? Not the pre-game show, but the actual brackets?5pm Central Time
In theory I can do a subway to Grand Central to Albany but for some reason the Albany arena is a 30 minute walk from the train station so I will probably driveAlso tickets are $90-130 one way :sdeek:
UHHHHHHHHHHKU snubbed of the overall #1 :frown:
Doesn't matter. We'll get the #1 in the Midwest, which is what does matter.
UHHHHHHHHHHKU snubbed of the overall #1 :frown:
Doesn't matter. We'll get the #1 in the Midwest, which is what does matter.
NoooooooooooooAt least Texas is in the Midwest
MSG!!!!!
Sure, Kentucky, why not.
kono
Dream scenario for me at leastNot so much for me, looks like I'll be enjoying this one on a JetBlue flight back from spring break.
Glad to see that they have gone back to calling the first round games first round games instead of calling the "First Four" games first round games. That drove me nuts.
i feel like osu should have made the cut.Both Palm and Lunardi agree with you. And so do I.
If it was Gene on the committee and not Jamie Pollard they would haveAgree
I just don’t want the game during dinner on Friday
It's kinda late.. I almost feel asleep at the T-Mobile center during our beloved cats game.
HEY
does anyone have a printable bracket with first round tip off times included?
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=2023+printable+bracket+with+tip+off+times+includedIt ain’t in the top 5 results of that search bud
HEY
does anyone have a printable bracket with first round tip off times included?
Don't think this has been posted yet
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
In the immortal words of beems - I will be watching basketball all day froggot"
Don't think this has been posted yetThanks MIR! Been trying to find this!
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Got mine in there but hooooooly crap I don’t have a feel for it at all. Which probably means I’ll win
I picked Bama... I hate them so much but I picked em.Got mine in there but hooooooly crap I don’t have a feel for it at all. Which probably means I’ll win
It's wide open, this year, boss. Alabama seems to be the best team but, for a million reasons, no one wants to pick them.
I picked Houston but i don’t really watch non-Big XII games until the tourney so i know nothing about anything
Good pick, MIR!
Does Houston recruit well? I haven't paid attention to non-ksu basketball in yearsI would assume Houston doesn’t have a bunch of 1-2 stars.
Also has buzz always been such a nerdy vest dweeb or did he just start and I never noticed?
Does Houston recruit well? I haven't paid attention to non-ksu basketball in years
Also has buzz always been such a nerdy vest dweeb or did he just start and I never noticed?
Cool
https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1636506759434063873?s=20
The loss dropped Virginia's record against double-digit seeds to just 3-4 over its last seven opportunities, a stretch which includes the program's historic 2018 loss to No. 16 seed UMBC and marked the fourth time in Virginia's last five NCAA Tournament appearances that it has lost to a No. 13 seed or worse.
So I was talking to a friend last night about how "Virginia lost AGAIN early in the tournament"...QuoteThe loss dropped Virginia's record against double-digit seeds to just 3-4 over its last seven opportunities, a stretch which includes the program's historic 2018 loss to No. 16 seed UMBC and marked the fourth time in Virginia's last five NCAA Tournament appearances that it has lost to a No. 13 seed or worse.
...and totally forgot that they won it all in 2019. I'm sure their fans are bummed, and it sucks that people like me only remember the losses, but that title 2019 is pretty great.
Having a bad tournament result is not a bad season. Not even being invited to ANY postseason tournaments is a bad season.
It's possibleHaving a bad tournament result is not a bad season. Not even being invited to ANY postseason tournaments is a bad season.
you say that like it happened several years in a row or something
I suppose there might be a handful of coaches that “choke” in the tourney with regular appearances at the 4 seed or above but I doubt it’s very many. If you show up to the dance with a good seed consistently you will make a deep run.
I normally TSC but eff ISU, I hope they lose by 30
some fun facts about Purdue's first round opponent, which is something called "Fairleigh Dickinson":
- ranked #298 out of 363 schools in kenpom
- have only played 1 game vs a top 100 opponent all year long (#77 pittsburgh in november).
- have played 35 games, and only 7 of those were vs teams in the top 300 (went 1-6)
- again is named "Fairleigh Dickinson"
ISU might lead at halftime.Clones are putrid.
That mold aggie game is kind of our nightmare scenario right? Can't buy a bucket and we melt. Hope it doesn't happen
That mold aggie game is kind of our nightmare scenario right? Can't buy a bucket and we melt. Hope it doesn't happen
That mold aggie game is kind of our nightmare scenario right? Can't buy a bucket and we melt. Hope it doesn't happenThat's every team's nightmare. Ridiculously ice freaking cold shooting.
some fun facts about Purdue's first round opponent, which is something called "Fairleigh Dickinson":
- ranked #298 out of 363 schools in kenpom
- have only played 1 game vs a top 100 opponent all year long (#77 pittsburgh in november).
- have played 35 games, and only 7 of those were vs teams in the top 300 (went 1-6)
- again is named "Fairleigh Dickinson"
Does providence have a good big? If not go Providence
Does providence have a good big? If not go Providence
Do not, under any circumstances, sleep on the Friars.
Does providence have a good big? If not go Providence
Do not, under any circumstances, sleep on the Friars.
Whatever, Tuck
that purdue big is rough ridin' big.Yea I don't really watch non cat bball games and I was like WTF when started watching this one. rough ridin' Goliath
Prior to the end of the Purdue game, there were only 24 perfect brackets remaining. After the Purdue game that dropped to…22. I suspect shenanigansThat's an lol stat, sounds made up
You do NOT want to be a one seed in kstate's bracket.
LOLsome fun facts about Purdue's first round opponent, which is something called "Fairleigh Dickinson":
- ranked #298 out of 363 schools in kenpom
- have only played 1 game vs a top 100 opponent all year long (#77 pittsburgh in november).
- have played 35 games, and only 7 of those were vs teams in the top 300 (went 1-6)
- again is named "Fairleigh Dickinson"
Purdoop or whatever is losing to by far the worst team in the torny
some fun facts about Purdue's first round opponent, which is something called "Fairleigh Dickinson":Apparently none of that crap matters in The Big Dance
- ranked #298 out of 363 schools in kenpom
- have only played 1 game vs a top 100 opponent all year long (#77 pittsburgh in november).
- have played 35 games, and only 7 of those were vs teams in the top 300 (went 1-6)
- again is named "Fairleigh Dickinson"
some fun facts about Purdue's first round opponent, which is something called "Fairleigh Dickinson":
- ranked #298 out of 363 schools in kenpom
- have only played 1 game vs a top 100 opponent all year long (#77 pittsburgh in november).
- have played 35 games, and only 7 of those were vs teams in the top 300 (went 1-6)
- again is named "Fairleigh Dickinson"
Easy flight to Denver. Greensboro? Not so much
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why is there so many more fans at the tcu game than our game? tcu doesn't even care about basketball. and probably neither does asu.Time zones
Just tell him what he wants to hear and maybe he'll move on to something else.I'm not 100% sure what the angle is this time
TCU has better fansJust tell him what he wants to hear and maybe he'll move on to something else.I'm not 100% sure what the angle is this time
Easy flight to Denver. Greensboro? Not so much
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there was like 50x more people there
after the first round, here are the remains of the East w/ kenpom ranks:
#288 Fairleigh Dickinson (16)
#22 Florida Atlantic (9)
#16 Duke (5)
#6 Tennessee (4)
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#24 Kentucky (6)
#23 Kansas State (3)
#28 Michigan State (7)
#10 Marquette (2)
kenpom predictos:
Duke 61
Tennessee 64
Kansas State 74
Kentucky 73
Michigan State 70
Marquette 73
Fairleigh Dickinson 67
Florida Atlantic 86
#22 Florida Atlantic (9)
I was certain you mocat math’s FAU until I laid eyes on kenpom.com :sdeek:
this tournament provides even more proof of exactly how big of a fraud that “ken pom” and his disciples like “ksu_FAN” are
advanced stats lol, but I guess the only stat that matters is the one in the w/l column
go back to geometry class, nerds lmao
this tournament provides even more proof of exactly how big of a fraud that “ken pom” and his disciples like “ksu_FAN” are
advanced stats lol, but I guess the only stat that matters is the one in the w/l column
go back to geometry class, nerds lmao
Don't think I've ever seen a computer dive for a loose ball.
after the first round, here are the remains of the East w/ kenpom ranks:
#275 Fairleigh Dickinson (16)
#22 Florida Atlantic (9)
#16 Duke (5)
#6 Tennessee (4)
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#24 Kentucky (6)
#23 Kansas State (3)
#28 Michigan State (7)
#10 Marquette (2)
kenpom predictos:
Duke 61
Tennessee 64
Kansas State 74
Kentucky 73
Michigan State 70
Marquette 73
Fairleigh Dickinson 67
Florida Atlantic 86
after the first round, here are the remains of the East w/ kenpom ranks:
#288 Fairleigh Dickinson (16)
#22 Florida Atlantic (9)
#16 Duke (5)
#6 Tennessee (4)
-----------
#24 Kentucky (6)
#23 Kansas State (3)
#28 Michigan State (7)
#10 Marquette (2)
kenpom predictos:
Duke 61
Tennessee 64
Kansas State 74
Kentucky 73
Michigan State 70
Marquette 73
Fairleigh Dickinson 67
Florida Atlantic 86
I was certain you mocat math’s FAU until I laid eyes on kenpom.com :sdeek:
after the first round, here are the remains of the East w/ kenpom ranks:
#275 Fairleigh Dickinson (16)
#22 Florida Atlantic (9)
#16 Duke (5)
#6 Tennessee (4)
-----------
#24 Kentucky (6)
#23 Kansas State (3)
#28 Michigan State (7)
#10 Marquette (2)
kenpom predictos:
Duke 61
Tennessee 64
Kansas State 74
Kentucky 73
Michigan State 70
Marquette 73
Fairleigh Dickinson 67
Florida Atlantic 86
We are two wins away from cRusty getting to watch the Cats play Duke in MSG to go to the final four. That right there gives me the goose pimples.
this tournament provides even more proof of exactly how big of a fraud that “ken pom” and his disciples like “ksu_FAN” are
advanced stats lol, but I guess the only stat that matters is the one in the w/l column
go back to geometry class, nerds lmao
Don't think I've ever seen a computer dive for a loose ball.
We are two wins away from cRusty getting to watch the Cats play Duke in MSG to go to the final four. That right there gives me the goose pimples.
eff Duke.
I expect this means tickets will be much cheaper so I ain't mad!!!We are two wins away from cRusty getting to watch the Cats play Duke in MSG to go to the final four. That right there gives me the goose pimples.
eff Duke.
Dreams over, time to sell the tickets.
Arkansas seems like a hot team right now…:surprised:
For all the big 12 dick sucking that happened this season, there's a very high chance not a single team makes it past this weekend
With Mizzou on the way out, we're the last big 8 team left
Did I really just see Willie Nelson use “On The Road Again” to promote CapitalOne’s credit cards???There is a good chance that you just saw one
There are players from both teams in this Texas game wearing one blue left shoe. What does that mean?
There are players from both teams in this Texas game wearing one blue left shoe. What does that mean?
Which feet?
Did I really just see Willie Nelson use “On The Road Again” to promote CapitalOne’s credit cards???
There are players from both teams in this Texas game wearing one blue left shoe. What does that mean?
Which feet?
Don't know their names. But, there are two guys who each have a blue shoe on their left foot, and an orange shoe on their right foot.
Did I really just see Willie Nelson use “On The Road Again” to promote CapitalOne’s credit cards???
There are players from both teams in this Texas game wearing one blue left shoe. What does that mean?
Which feet?
Don't know their names. But, there are two guys who each have a blue shoe on their left foot, and an orange shoe on their right foot.
Alright, well we know they didn't swap with each other then.
It's like the switch controllers
It's like the switch controllers
that was exactly what i was thinking
For all the big 12 dick sucking that happened this season, there's a very high chance not a single team makes it past this weekend
Seems like all the pre-dance obsession with seeding was just nonsense because of remarkable parity. Actual results suggest you can throw a net over the top 30 or more teams. So many games are coming down to which team can make free throws or a late 3. It like a PGA golf tournament where the winner could be any one of 20-30 golfers, tho a select few are more consistent, as opposed to tennis where the top seeds always seem to win majors unless injored.
Marketing budget is probably north of eleventy billion. Their March Madness commercials with Chuck, Spike Lee and Samuel L Jackson are clever and hilarious. The rest of their marketing is tedious and awful eg the guy in the “Capital One Cafe.”Did I really just see Willie Nelson use “On The Road Again” to promote CapitalOne’s credit cards???
What is CapitalOne's marketing budget? They always have celebs in their commercials.
Marketing budget is probably north of eleventy billion. Their March Madness commercials with Chuck, Spike Lee and Samuel L Jackson are clever and hilarious. The rest of their marketing is tedious and awful eg the guy in the “Capital One Cafe.”Did I really just see Willie Nelson use “On The Road Again” to promote CapitalOne’s credit cards???
What is CapitalOne's marketing budget? They always have celebs in their commercials.
does the big 12 need both baylor and tcu to advance in order to claim a successful first weekend or would one of the two be enough?
i kinda think we need them both. 3 of 16 wouldn't be that impressive for the supposed best conference in america.
can't count on isu, obviously. but ku really let us down. they have that weird thing with their coach though, so i guess we can't be mad.Yeah that should really count as 1/2 a team.
the big 12 was the best conference this season, there was no “supposed” about it. that doesn’t mean that other teams aren’t good too.
can't count on isu, obviously. but ku really let us down. they have that weird thing with their coach though, so i guess we can't be mad.Yeah that should really count as 1/2 a team.
Let's start the old washed up coach burial tour.Keep it rolling
the big 12 was the best conference this season, there was no “supposed” about it. that doesn’t mean that other teams aren’t good too.
Bingo. I don't give a flying eff who else advances, we did, and history will reflect that the Big 12 conference was the best conference this season, regardless. The only thing left to wonder about is if the Big 12 will have a team in the fourth straight Duval four and/or win a third straight national championship.
Wow, you called it.Let's start the old washed up coach burial tour.Keep it rolling
3 teams is 30% of the conference. That's good enough. Saying we weren't really the best because we couldn't get 40% of our conference into the sweet 16 is just ridiculous.
3 teams is 30% of the conference. That's good enough. Saying we weren't really the best because we couldn't get 40% of our conference into the sweet 16 is just ridiculous.
We need some help from the horny toads to even get 3, Baylor got smoked.
how does any of this have anything to do with you questioning the strength of the b12? also, i’m curious if you think that the best team always wins in the tournamentthe big 12 was the best conference this season, there was no “supposed” about it. that doesn’t mean that other teams aren’t good too.
Bingo. I don't give a flying eff who else advances, we did, and history will reflect that the Big 12 conference was the best conference this season, regardless. The only thing left to wonder about is if the Big 12 will have a team in the fourth straight Duval four and/or win a third straight national championship.
admirable sentiments to be sure, but i don't think anyone but kenpom and ksufan and maybe a few other advanced stats nerds are going to care about who beat coppin state by more in december. the world according to the casual fan about town is going to go by tournament results, and unless baylor can get this turned around quick, it's going to be iffy for the big 12.
SEC got in three.3 teams is 30% of the conference. That's good enough. Saying we weren't really the best because we couldn't get 40% of our conference into the sweet 16 is just ridiculous.
We need some help from the horny toads to even get 3, Baylor got smoked.
Yeah, 2 would be disappointing. 3 would be a lot better than anyone else did.
Yeah, 2 would be disappointing. 3 would be a lot better than anyone else did.
how does any of this have anything to do with you questioning the strength of the b12? also, i’m curious if you think that the best team always wins in the tournament
The SEC has 14 schools.SEC got in three.3 teams is 30% of the conference. That's good enough. Saying we weren't really the best because we couldn't get 40% of our conference into the sweet 16 is just ridiculous.
We need some help from the horny toads to even get 3, Baylor got smoked.
Yeah, 2 would be disappointing. 3 would be a lot better than anyone else did.
I suspect we'll be underdogs again next week. Crazy. But let em.Wearing white both (potential) games next week. Don't care what Vegas says, pretty bad ass considering expectations going in to the year.
the big 12 was the best conference this season, there was no “supposed” about it. that doesn’t mean that other teams aren’t good too.
Bingo. I don't give a flying eff who else advances, we did, and history will reflect that the Big 12 conference was the best conference this season, regardless. The only thing left to wonder about is if the Big 12 will have a team in the fourth straight Duval four and/or win a third straight national championship.
admirable sentiments to be sure, but i don't think anyone but kenpom and ksufan and maybe a few other advanced stats nerds are going to care about who beat coppin state by more in december. the world according to the casual fan about town is going to go by tournament results, and unless baylor can get this turned around quick, it's going to be iffy for the big 12.
FAU is rated higher in kenpom than we are
FAU is rated higher in kenpom than we are
I think the warmup pants might be the most interesting thing about Indiana. (The entire state)
I think the warmup pants might be the most interesting thing about Indiana. (The entire state)It's competing head to head with comically large fried pork cutlet sandwiches.
Do you guys remember when Texas Technical wore that style warm up paints when Robert Night coached them?
I do
Fanatics have lost their goddamned mind. $85 for a sweet 16 shirt, lol
(https://i.ibb.co/zft8C3v/Screenshot-20230319-220849.png)
How could Baylor do this to us
How could Baylor do this to us
They were not a tournament team after George's injury, a shell of themselves. The team we saw tonight is exactly the same team that lost back to back games to Iowa State by a billion points.
I can't believe Indiana still wears those ridiculous warmup pants.
- that's right, sunday was Michigan State's first top 20 win all season.
- KSU's only L's that were not away games were vs Texas in Manhattan, and vs TCU in KC. just avoid bringing that lackluster energy and this will be a W
Had pretty favorable brackets to the FF the last couple times we made it to the 2nd weekend. :(- that's right, sunday was Michigan State's first top 20 win all season.
- KSU's only L's that were not away games were vs Texas in Manhattan, and vs TCU in KC. just avoid bringing that lackluster energy and this will be a W
Correct. Y'all should dog walk them. Kinda lucked out to draw them in the S16. Savor this moment. Savor it!
Had pretty favorable brackets to the FF the last couple times we made it to the 2nd weekend. :(- that's right, sunday was Michigan State's first top 20 win all season.
- KSU's only L's that were not away games were vs Texas in Manhattan, and vs TCU in KC. just avoid bringing that lackluster energy and this will be a W
Correct. Y'all should dog walk them. Kinda lucked out to draw them in the S16. Savor this moment. Savor it!
We are getting over the hump this time. There will be no KITN with these Cats!Had pretty favorable brackets to the FF the last couple times we made it to the 2nd weekend. :(- that's right, sunday was Michigan State's first top 20 win all season.
- KSU's only L's that were not away games were vs Texas in Manhattan, and vs TCU in KC. just avoid bringing that lackluster energy and this will be a W
Correct. Y'all should dog walk them. Kinda lucked out to draw them in the S16. Savor this moment. Savor it!
#24 Michigan State opponents
wins (21)
#11 marquette
#23 maryland
#26 kentucky
#30 indiana
#36 penn state
#39 rutgers
#40 iowa
#41 oregon
#42 michigan
#43 usc
#50 ohio state x2
#57 villanova
#59 wisconsin
#94 nebraska x2
#156 portland
#174 brown
#210 buffalo
#211 northern arizona
#272 oakland
losses (12)
#2 alabama
#7 gonzaga
#8 purdue x2
#30 indiana
#34 illinois
#38 northwestern
#39 rutgers
#40 iowa
#42 michigan
#50 ohio state
#165 notre dame
#21 Kansas State opponents
wins (25)
#5 texas
#9 kansas
#16 baylor x2
#19 west virginia
#25 tcu
#26 kentucky
#31 iowa state
#46 oklahoma state x2
#52 oklahoma
#60 nevada
#61 texas tech
#73 florida
#94 nebraska
#99 wichita state
#113 montana state
#145 lsu
#169 radford
#193 abilene christian
#247 ut rio grande valley
#255 rhode island
#268 california
#314 umkc
#339 incarnate word
losses (9)
#5 texas
#9 kansas
#19 west virginia
#25 tcu x2
#31 iowa state
#52 oklahoma
#61 texas tech
#122 butler
#24 Michigan State opponents
wins (21)
#11 marquette
#23 maryland
#26 kentucky
#30 indiana
#36 penn state
#39 rutgers
#40 iowa
#41 oregon
#42 michigan
#43 usc
#50 ohio state x2
#57 villanova
#59 wisconsin
#94 nebraska x2
#156 portland
#174 brown
#210 buffalo
#211 northern arizona
#272 oakland
losses (12)
#2 alabama
#7 gonzaga
#8 purdue x2
#30 indiana
#34 illinois
#38 northwestern
#39 rutgers
#40 iowa
#42 michigan
#50 ohio state
#165 notre dame
#21 Kansas State opponents
wins (25)
#5 texas
#9 kansas
#16 baylor x2
#19 west virginia
#25 tcu
#26 kentucky
#31 iowa state
#46 oklahoma state x2
#52 oklahoma
#60 nevada
#61 texas tech
#73 florida
#94 nebraska
#99 wichita state
#113 montana state
#145 lsu
#169 radford
#193 abilene christian
#247 ut rio grande valley
#255 rhode island
#268 california
#314 umkc
#339 incarnate word
losses (9)
#5 texas
#9 kansas
#19 west virginia
#25 tcu x2
#31 iowa state
#52 oklahoma
#61 texas tech
#122 butler
I wonder when was the last time no team swept us in conference? Gotta be a long time ago I reckon
I am swishing this one around in my mouth as I type this.- that's right, sunday was Michigan State's first top 20 win all season.
- KSU's only L's that were not away games were vs Texas in Manhattan, and vs TCU in KC. just avoid bringing that lackluster energy and this will be a W
Correct. Y'all should dog walk them. Kinda lucked out to draw them in the S16. Savor this moment. Savor it!
FDU's coach looks like an alternate universe version of Steve-O where Steve-O never did drugs and wrecked his body but instead got into coaching basketball.
Also this sparty team is not good. You guys are going to butt eff them on national TV. Go cats. :emawkid:
Also this sparty team is not good. You guys are going to butt eff them on national TV. Go cats. :emawkid:Thank God, I only want to watch a butt rough ridin' with the entire country. Who's looking away when the brown foam starts to form? Not me. Not anybody. Go cats
... but eff.... a little in my mouth
I would like to order the FAU. We will get maybe 3 rebounds against Tennessee.
I would like to order the FAU. We will get maybe 3 rebounds against Tennessee.
i don't care for how musclely tenn looks.
(https://i.imgflip.com/7fnefu.jpg)That’s a real beaut that I hope makes it onto a game day sign.
also lol at the ref calling that out on florida a few possessions back on the trap.Refs seem to be in it for the storyline, but I approve.
They are scaryBrad then Porter, now Dusty :ohno:
9 seed is the only thing standing between us and the only final four appearance of all of our lifetimes?
are they scary? yes, owls are super scary. go cats, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ol4rbYPYQc&t=27s
I think you mean the FIRST FF of our lifetimes.9 seed is the only thing standing between us and the only final four appearance of all of our lifetimes?
We have to do it, this is it
Man, at like the halfway point in the 2nd half is was like wow ucla is going to embarrass the zags and then zags just like nah
Could we be the only Power 5 school in the Elite 8???? Wild
Oh yeah lolCould we be the only Power 5 school in the Elite 8???? Wild
Miami is in the ACC but I understand making that mistake given the ACC is ass and so is Miami
let's get texas bounced too. can't tsc a school that doesn't care about conference.
the late games today aren't that fun, actually.Give it time
the late games today aren't that fun, actually.
UT is so rough ridin' good
UConn really playing like they're as good as kenpom thinks they are. Beat the absolute piss out of the mussbus. Played their entire rough ridin' bench for the third straight game. Keep an eye on that.
UConn really playing like they're as good as kenpom thinks they are. Beat the absolute piss out of the mussbus. Played their entire rough ridin' bench for the third straight game. Keep an eye on that.
Damn, they aren't just the highest rated kenpom team left, they actually moved up to number one overall after the sweet sixteen. My basketball feelings are being heavily corroborated by science. If they win a 4th goddamned nc under a third coach in 25 years, eff all of that. Gross. That would be a terrible ending to this tournament.
I really want the Cats to win today.
UConn really playing like they're as good as kenpom thinks they are. Beat the absolute piss out of the mussbus. Played their entire rough ridin' bench for the third straight game. Keep an eye on that.
Damn, they aren't just the highest rated kenpom team left, they actually moved up to number one overall after the sweet sixteen. My basketball feelings are being heavily corroborated by science. If they win a 4th goddamned nc under a third coach in 25 years, eff all of that. Gross. That would be a terrible ending to this tournament.
I forgot Calhoun won a third nc. I was pretty bruced out by that point tbf. Jesus Christ though possibly 5 in 25 years over three different coaches? After they tried to be a big boy state university and got left completely out in the cold. Shows how much could be possible at most power five schools.
UConn really playing like they're as good as kenpom thinks they are. Beat the absolute piss out of the mussbus. Played their entire rough ridin' bench for the third straight game. Keep an eye on that.
Damn, they aren't just the highest rated kenpom team left, they actually moved up to number one overall after the sweet sixteen. My basketball feelings are being heavily corroborated by science. If they win a 4th goddamned nc under a third coach in 25 years, eff all of that. Gross. That would be a terrible ending to this tournament.
I forgot Calhoun won a third nc. I was pretty bruced out by that point tbf. Jesus Christ though possibly 5 in 25 years over three different coaches? After they tried to be a big boy state university and got left completely out in the cold. Shows how much could be possible at most power five schools.
For some dumb reason I always pictured Storrs, CT as being like right outside of NYC but it's about as isolated as you can get between Boston and DC which seems like it would be a disadvantage in the Big East
Jesus Christ, UCONN is dogwalking the Zags.
UCONN bout to get another ship. They're obliterating anything that gets in their way.
If Izzo is “Mister March” UCONN should be known as “The University of March”. They have peaked in March under several different coaches.UCONN bout to get another ship. They're obliterating anything that gets in their way.
Yeah, just hand it to them already
What a great victory for Pack, Stunted and oscar.Pack would have never ever played this year for oscar. Pack was leaving to get paid, no matter what.
What a great victory for Pack, Stunted and oscar.Pretty damning for Oscar. He had Nowell, Pack and Smith and finished dead last in the league. It's true that's the only talent he had on the floor, but whose fault was that?
What a great victory for Pack, Stunted and oscar.Pretty damning for Oscar. He had Nowell, Pack and Smith and finished dead last in the league. It's true that's the only talent he had on the floor, but whose fault was that?
Could we be the only Power 5 school in the Elite 8???? Wild
Miami is in the ACC but I understand making that mistake given the ACC is ass and so is Miami
UCONN has put on an insane display of dominance this tourney.UCONN is good. I’m enjoying Jackson’s dunking.
You're all rough ridin' psycho
22.5 — UConn's average margin of victory in the NCAA tournament. The record is 23.75 by 1967 UCLA, which was led by Lew Alcindor and blew out four foes: 109-60 vs. Wyoming, 80-64 vs. Pacific, 73-58 vs. Houston, 79-64 vs. DaytonAn 8 loss team, that didn't have key injuries during those losses, can't be considered one of the most dominant teams of all time, right?
kim mulkey, what a coach. i don’t care for her but she is just great at everything she does.incredible record of success.
terrible officiating in this national championship game, hate to see it.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230403/4e84b81030efebeb77f77856a46914ef.jpg)
two national championships as a player, four as a coach, a gold medal olympian, and high school valedictorian. just a really impressive person.
She's a trash human but a hell of a coach.
Today's game was a real conundrum for me. I didn't want Iowa to win, I didn't want Mulkey to win, and I sure as hell didn't want anything good for LSU fans, but I love Bayou Barbie. :love:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230403/4e84b81030efebeb77f77856a46914ef.jpg)She was also a 4 time state champion in high school. Just an incredible winning percentage her entire life.
two national championships as a player, four as a coach, a gold medal olympian, and high school valedictorian. just a really impressive person.
Being a UConn fan must be so goddamn incredible
Just a crazy conversion rate, I get it's not over, but having 6 FF and on the cusp of your 5th Natty is insane and also something a certain institution in LFK is not at capable of despite their pleads to contrarySince the turn of the millennium, UConn basically has expected to get a natty every 4-5 years. Crazy.
Pretty crazy that two players (Pack, Nowell) from one of the worst Cat basketball teams of all time (21-22), ended up being Most Outstanding Player of their respective Regionals in the 22-23 TOR-na-ment:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_tournament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_tournament)
Pretty crazy that two players (Pack, Nowell) from one of the worst Cat basketball teams of all time (21-22), ended up being Most Outstanding Player of their respective Regionals in the 22-23 TOR-na-ment:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_tournament (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_NCAA_Division_I_men%27s_basketball_tournament)
Not to mention the schedule makers did us no favorsI have heard it said that scheduling is more important than recruiting.
the NIT will guarantee two teams (based on the NET rankings) from each of six conferences (Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and Southeastern). The top two teams in the NET rankings not qualifying for the NCAA men’s basketball tournament from each conference, regardless of won-loss record, will be selected. Additionally, the 12 teams automatically selected will be guaranteed the opportunity to host a game in the first round of the NIT.
In each NIT game, the free throw lane will be widened from 12 feet to 16 feet, consistent with the width used by the NBA and FIBA.
No team in history with 5 Quad 1 wins and zero quad 3/4 losses has ever been left out of the tournament.Tang’s teams are nothing if not trailblazers. Already got the record for all time D-I overtime wins, why not break the NET while we’re at it?
No team in history with 5 Quad 1 wins and zero quad 3/4 losses has ever been left out of the tournament.
Maybe we will just win this stupid tournament and get in that way.
I don't know when the last time K-State played in the NIT was, but I remember a home game against TCU in 1999 when Billy Tubbs brought Lee Nailon (formerly of Butler CC) to Bramlage and Nailon absolutely killed K-State in what was a relatively close game that we lost. That dude was a baller.
I won't regale you with tales of seeing Ski go off in person. but i was there and so was another poster that I know of.:peek:
I won't regale you with tales of seeing Ski go off in person. but i was there and so was another poster that I know of.I was there.
I won't regale you with tales of seeing Ski go off in person. but i was there and so was another poster that I know of.:peek:
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Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
We are back, get your brackets in!Don't think this has been posted yetThanks MIR! Been trying to find this!
Come join the "goEMAW Bloggers" group in ESPN Tournament Challenge and see if your bracket beats the rest. #bracket https://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2023/en/sharer?groupID=800056&redirect=tcmen%3A%2F%2Fx-callback-url%2FshowGroup%3FgroupID%3D800056
Password is: bazookajoe