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Federalism isn't for everyone. Some areas of the U.S. appreciate it, some do not.The SEC, in particular, has a very different value system from the Northeast and Northwest, and these divisions are making both pretty unhappy.I am wondering if the populations would be better off if we just let them do their own things? I would expect the Northeast and Northwest to operate generally like the current Federal United States.The SEC would ravage itself and likely settle on a parliamentary system or just break into a bunch of truly confederated states.Frankly, that is probably what should have happened instead of the civil war.
Quote from: Pete on July 16, 2015, 10:26:33 PMSouthwest Texas, New Mexico, and Southern Arizona might just go it on their own.Would be funny to see them try and then the other two countries yoink their water.
Southwest Texas, New Mexico, and Southern Arizona might just go it on their own.
Quote from: Pete on July 16, 2015, 10:35:22 PMFederalism isn't for everyone. Some areas of the U.S. appreciate it, some do not.The SEC, in particular, has a very different value system from the Northeast and Northwest, and these divisions are making both pretty unhappy.I am wondering if the populations would be better off if we just let them do their own things? I would expect the Northeast and Northwest to operate generally like the current Federal United States.The SEC would ravage itself and likely settle on a parliamentary system or just break into a bunch of truly confederated states.Frankly, that is probably what should have happened instead of the civil war.Pete have you ever thought of writing an amazon kindle book about this?
What is this BS anti-American thesis that argues that nations should not have a plurality of different and often conflicting cultures?
Quote from: Kat Kid on July 16, 2015, 10:36:36 PMQuote from: Pete on July 16, 2015, 10:35:22 PMFederalism isn't for everyone. Some areas of the U.S. appreciate it, some do not.The SEC, in particular, has a very different value system from the Northeast and Northwest, and these divisions are making both pretty unhappy.I am wondering if the populations would be better off if we just let them do their own things? Like, you got Rand McNally? You should be good.I would expect the Northeast and Northwest to operate generally like the current Federal United States.The SEC would ravage itself and likely settle on a parliamentary system or just break into a bunch of truly confederated states.Frankly, that is probably what should have happened instead of the civil war.Pete have you ever thought of writing an amazon kindle book about this?I got the idea from a different book I read, that merely focused on the different "cultural nations" of North America. MichCat read it too (it gets super dumb and preachy at the end, but the early factual historical stuff was fun).It would take a bunch of plagiarism for me to do it. I don't know that I have the balls to take on the actual primary source research and all that hard stuff.
Quote from: Pete on July 16, 2015, 10:35:22 PMFederalism isn't for everyone. Some areas of the U.S. appreciate it, some do not.The SEC, in particular, has a very different value system from the Northeast and Northwest, and these divisions are making both pretty unhappy.I am wondering if the populations would be better off if we just let them do their own things? Like, you got Rand McNally? You should be good.I would expect the Northeast and Northwest to operate generally like the current Federal United States.The SEC would ravage itself and likely settle on a parliamentary system or just break into a bunch of truly confederated states.Frankly, that is probably what should have happened instead of the civil war.Pete have you ever thought of writing an amazon kindle book about this?
Federalism isn't for everyone. Some areas of the U.S. appreciate it, some do not.The SEC, in particular, has a very different value system from the Northeast and Northwest, and these divisions are making both pretty unhappy.I am wondering if the populations would be better off if we just let them do their own things? Like, you got Rand McNally? You should be good.I would expect the Northeast and Northwest to operate generally like the current Federal United States.The SEC would ravage itself and likely settle on a parliamentary system or just break into a bunch of truly confederated states.Frankly, that is probably what should have happened instead of the civil war.
Quote from: Pete on July 16, 2015, 10:40:02 PMQuote from: Kat Kid on July 16, 2015, 10:36:36 PMQuote from: Pete on July 16, 2015, 10:35:22 PMFederalism isn't for everyone. Some areas of the U.S. appreciate it, some do not.The SEC, in particular, has a very different value system from the Northeast and Northwest, and these divisions are making both pretty unhappy.I am wondering if the populations would be better off if we just let them do their own things? Like, you got Rand McNally? You should be good.I would expect the Northeast and Northwest to operate generally like the current Federal United States.The SEC would ravage itself and likely settle on a parliamentary system or just break into a bunch of truly confederated states.Frankly, that is probably what should have happened instead of the civil war.Pete have you ever thought of writing an amazon kindle book about this?I got the idea from a different book I read, that merely focused on the different "cultural nations" of North America. MichCat read it too (it gets super dumb and preachy at the end, but the early factual historical stuff was fun).It would take a bunch of plagiarism for me to do it. I don't know that I have the balls to take on the actual primary source research and all that hard stuff.Pete I think you would do better with a free-wheeling action book.
You want to live with a bunch of people who are exactly the same as you? Doesn't seem very diverse. Almost seems bigoted.
Quote from: Spracne on July 16, 2015, 10:45:10 PMYou want to live with a bunch of people who are exactly the same as you? Doesn't seem very diverse. Almost seems bigoted.I am mildly comfortable with cultural bigotry. Is there a word for that?
Xeniphobia?
Quote from: Spracne on July 16, 2015, 10:50:57 PMXeniphobia?Maybe, but I am not afraid of the others, I just don't like them.
What about the economic impacts? What am I not thinking of here? I assume there would be a very difficult restructuring for all the Nations. But am I wrong in thinking that they'd all have as just as good of a shot to rebound as Eastern Europe did after the Cold War?
Quote from: Spracne on July 16, 2015, 10:15:35 PMQuote from: Pete on July 16, 2015, 10:13:16 PMQuote from: Spracne on July 16, 2015, 10:08:40 PMYou can go to hell. I will stay in Texas.I did not expect that. Even if the country broke apart?I just assumed one would have to be an affluent sociopath or destitute to want to stay in Texas in this sort of hypothetical situation. No?Not sure why you would assume that. State your principles, Sir.I mean, it's a land that seems pretty comfortable with the idea that everyone must fend for themselves and that only the strong should survive, AND/OR that the week are somehow serving their natural purpose by submitting to their betters. That isn't just a Texas thing though, that's an SEC thing. So, I am mostly talking about white Texans.I take back my earlier thoughts on a peaceful divorce. I think the SEC would go to war with the Latinos areas of the Southwest.
Quote from: Pete on July 16, 2015, 10:13:16 PMQuote from: Spracne on July 16, 2015, 10:08:40 PMYou can go to hell. I will stay in Texas.I did not expect that. Even if the country broke apart?I just assumed one would have to be an affluent sociopath or destitute to want to stay in Texas in this sort of hypothetical situation. No?Not sure why you would assume that. State your principles, Sir.
Quote from: Spracne on July 16, 2015, 10:08:40 PMYou can go to hell. I will stay in Texas.I did not expect that. Even if the country broke apart?I just assumed one would have to be an affluent sociopath or destitute to want to stay in Texas in this sort of hypothetical situation. No?
You can go to hell. I will stay in Texas.
Quote from: Pete on July 16, 2015, 10:24:00 PMQuote from: Spracne on July 16, 2015, 10:15:35 PMQuote from: Pete on July 16, 2015, 10:13:16 PMQuote from: Spracne on July 16, 2015, 10:08:40 PMYou can go to hell. I will stay in Texas.I did not expect that. Even if the country broke apart?I just assumed one would have to be an affluent sociopath or destitute to want to stay in Texas in this sort of hypothetical situation. No?Not sure why you would assume that. State your principles, Sir.I mean, it's a land that seems pretty comfortable with the idea that everyone must fend for themselves and that only the strong should survive, AND/OR that the week are somehow serving their natural purpose by submitting to their betters. That isn't just a Texas thing though, that's an SEC thing. So, I am mostly talking about white Texans.I take back my earlier thoughts on a peaceful divorce. I think the SEC would go to war with the Latinos areas of the Southwest.Yeah I love central Texas and Austin but if Texas went independent I'd be getting the eff out with a quickness. This place would turn into a theocracy like instantly and the rural people would straight up march on the big cities with all their guns. No thanks.
Quote from: Pete on July 16, 2015, 10:50:13 PMWhat about the economic impacts? What am I not thinking of here? I assume there would be a very difficult restructuring for all the Nations. But am I wrong in thinking that they'd all have as just as good of a shot to rebound as Eastern Europe did after the Cold War?I mean, it would be pretty disastrous for everyone even if it was just somewhat contentious.