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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4225 on: February 06, 2018, 02:54:00 PM »
Are there really people that believe the Steele report, or think that Trump had some master plan to scam a presidential election?  If so, we should prolly know who these people are.

FTR, they  (the libtards) absolutely believe the entirety of the dossier, but deny it was used to obtain an improper and politically motivated FISA warrant.

I've never read the Steele thing but 100% believe Trump has paid for sex on many occasions.

I've never seen any proof of this, but 100% believe it is not an impeachable offense. (I was alive in the 90's)

Come on 2-7, don't you know we've moved past Russian "COLUSION"? We're going to expel Trump based upon "obstruction" of an investigation into a non-existent crime. It's all about the cover up (of the non-existent crime)!
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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4226 on: February 06, 2018, 02:56:05 PM »
Weird that people are pleading guilty to non-existent crimes.

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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4227 on: February 06, 2018, 03:02:54 PM »
Weird that people are pleading guilty to non-existent crimes.

"Perjury" is not a non-existent crime.
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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4228 on: February 06, 2018, 03:03:57 PM »
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2018/02/05/biased-fbi-and-doj-officials-broke-the-law-and-tried-to-decide-the-election-an-annotated-timeline/
Dang.  I hope skeptical people at least read this.  I pray that this is hogwash.
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This is a good summary. So is the Andrew McCarthy summary of the revisions to the FBI's Clinton exoneration letter. It's important to remember that the letter wasn't just revised to change "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless." It was also revised to remove the assessment that foreign agents possibly accessed the server, and that Obama knew Hillary was running the server and emailed her using a pseudonym (remember - he lied about this when he said he first learned of the server in the news). So the FBI exoneration had as much, if not more, to do with protecting Obama, not just protecting Hillary.

This is a massive scandal, plain and simple. None of this has any direct connection to the Mueller investigation, but it should be viewed with appropriate skepticism given that many of these same partisans were involved in both.
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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4229 on: February 06, 2018, 03:10:18 PM »
Trump is going to get impeached for being in idiot and was completely innocent if he would have just sat back and let the investigation finish....that's as dumb as getting fired on your day off.

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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4230 on: February 06, 2018, 03:27:20 PM »
Trump is going to get impeached for being in idiot and was completely innocent if he would have just sat back and let the investigation finish....that's as dumb as getting fired on your day off.

Respectfully (and I mean that), that is a pretty naive thing to say. First, the fact that this Russian COLUSION fantasy has dragged on for over a year, and subjected Trump to repeated smears, has damaged him politically. That was the whole point. Trump absolutely has the right to defend himself and his administration and call out the rampant bias when he sees it. His biggest mistake was not firing Comey on day 1.

Second, Trump will be impeached by the House on one condition only: if the Dems retake control. That’s the only relevant factor. It will be as purely political as the COLUSION fantasy.

You may hate Donald Trump for all sorts of reasons. I would hate him if I was a liberal. But weaponizing the media and intelligence agencies to take down a political foe is not a good road to go down. It is hard for liberals to understand this because the media and administrative state are so deeply in their pocket.
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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4231 on: February 06, 2018, 03:44:05 PM »
The only naive party here are those thinking Trump and his inner circle are completely clean in this mess.

Amazing how far some will go to defend their team over country.

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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4232 on: February 06, 2018, 04:00:18 PM »
The only naive party here are those thinking Trump and his inner circle are completely clean in this mess.

Amazing how far some will go to defend their team over country.

You'll have to define "completely clean." I don't think any admin is pure as the wind driven snow. In fact, I expect a fair amount of ugly, underhanded politics. But there's a big difference between that and illegal conduct. There's a big difference between that and conspiring with foreign agents to steal an election (it bears repeating that the best evidence of this so far is what Clinton did through Perkins Cole / Fusion GPS / Michael Steele).

Political disputes should be decided at the ballot box. Liberals lost. They'll get another shot this fall, and 2020, and on and on. Instead they're trying to nullify 2016.
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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4233 on: February 06, 2018, 04:02:32 PM »
https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2018/02/05/biased-fbi-and-doj-officials-broke-the-law-and-tried-to-decide-the-election-an-annotated-timeline/
Dang.  I hope skeptical people at least read this.  I pray that this is hogwash.
 :horrorsurprise:

This is a good summary. So is the Andrew McCarthy summary of the revisions to the FBI's Clinton exoneration letter. It's important to remember that the letter wasn't just revised to change "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless." It was also revised to remove the assessment that foreign agents possibly accessed the server, and that Obama knew Hillary was running the server and emailed her using a pseudonym (remember - he lied about this when he said he first learned of the server in the news). So the FBI exoneration had as much, if not more, to do with protecting Obama, not just protecting Hillary.

This is a massive scandal, plain and simple. None of this has any direct connection to the Mueller investigation, but it should be viewed with appropriate skepticism given that many of these same partisans were involved in both.

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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4234 on: February 06, 2018, 04:07:57 PM »
The only naive party here are those thinking Trump and his inner circle are completely clean in this mess.

Amazing how far some will go to defend their team over country.

You'll have to define "completely clean." I don't think any admin is pure as the wind driven snow. In fact, I expect a fair amount of ugly, underhanded politics. But there's a big difference between that and illegal conduct. There's a big difference between that and conspiring with foreign agents to steal an election (it bears repeating that the best evidence of this so far is what Clinton did through Perkins Cole / Fusion GPS / Michael Steele).

Political disputes should be decided at the ballot box. Liberals lost. They'll get another shot this fall, and 2020, and on and on. Instead they're trying to nullify 2016.
Illegal acts is what I'm referring to. I honestly don't know...that's what an investigation is for. To sit here today and say you know nothing illegal happened is naive. Investigate Hillary too...IDGAF about her but saying "well she did this so we are clean" is idiotic and you are either gE'ing or putting party before our country.  I hope it's the former.

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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4235 on: February 06, 2018, 04:15:21 PM »
It's hard to tell if Trump did anything illegal because he lies about so much crap, there's a lot to sift through.

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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4236 on: February 06, 2018, 04:19:22 PM »
The only naive party here are those thinking Trump and his inner circle are completely clean in this mess.

Amazing how far some will go to defend their team over country.

You'll have to define "completely clean." I don't think any admin is pure as the wind driven snow. In fact, I expect a fair amount of ugly, underhanded politics. But there's a big difference between that and illegal conduct. There's a big difference between that and conspiring with foreign agents to steal an election (it bears repeating that the best evidence of this so far is what Clinton did through Perkins Cole / Fusion GPS / Michael Steele).

Political disputes should be decided at the ballot box. Liberals lost. They'll get another shot this fall, and 2020, and on and on. Instead they're trying to nullify 2016.
Illegal acts is what I'm referring to. I honestly don't know...that's what an investigation is for. To sit here today and say you know nothing illegal happened is naive. Investigate Hillary too...IDGAF about her but saying "well she did this so we are clean" is idiotic and you are either gE'ing or putting party before our country.  I hope it's the former.

If a special prosecutor hunts long enough, he'll find something. He's already found a couple instances of perjury and some obscure lobbying infractions by Manafort from years before. But he was tasked with investigating whether Americans conspired with foreign agents to steal the 2016 election. And after over a year, with Democrats both in Congress and the administrative state leaking everything they think will harm Trump, there simply hasn't been any evidence produced that this happened. Hell, if you believe even 1/10 of Michael Wolff's recent tabloid trash (which is probably about the percentage of factual material), the Trump campaign was far too incompetent to conspire with Russia.
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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4237 on: February 06, 2018, 04:24:09 PM »
I think most people do not believe the Trump campaign knowingly colluded/conspired with Russia, but that Russia was successfully able to exploit the Trump campaign to promote Russia's interests over America's.

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« Reply #4238 on: February 06, 2018, 04:25:02 PM »
The only naive party here are those thinking Trump and his inner circle are completely clean in this mess.

Amazing how far some will go to defend their team over country.

You'll have to define "completely clean." I don't think any admin is pure as the wind driven snow. In fact, I expect a fair amount of ugly, underhanded politics. But there's a big difference between that and illegal conduct. There's a big difference between that and conspiring with foreign agents to steal an election (it bears repeating that the best evidence of this so far is what Clinton did through Perkins Cole / Fusion GPS / Michael Steele).

Political disputes should be decided at the ballot box. Liberals lost. They'll get another shot this fall, and 2020, and on and on. Instead they're trying to nullify 2016.

Did anything from Glenn Simpson's testimony concern you? IMO, he did a pretty good job answering questions and explaining things. However, I can understand why you wouldn't want to believe him.

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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4239 on: February 06, 2018, 04:29:21 PM »
I think most people do not believe the Trump campaign knowingly colluded/conspired with Russia, but that Russia was successfully able to exploit the Trump campaign to promote Russia's interests over America's.

That's interesting. Please elaborate how Russia successfully exploited the Trump campaign to promote Russian interests over America's.
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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4240 on: February 06, 2018, 05:07:57 PM »
I think most people do not believe the Trump campaign knowingly colluded/conspired with Russia, but that Russia was successfully able to exploit the Trump campaign to promote Russia's interests over America's.

Russia took out facebook ads that convinced independent voters to vote for Trump. Blame Mark Zuckerberg.

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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4241 on: February 06, 2018, 05:13:10 PM »
Trump did something and should be removed, I don’t know what but I’m sure it was illegal  :jeffy: - ‘crats

Far more crazy than the Clinton murders.......
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« Reply #4242 on: February 06, 2018, 05:49:46 PM »
The only naive party here are those thinking Trump and his inner circle are completely clean in this mess.

Amazing how far some will go to defend their team over country.

You'll have to define "completely clean." I don't think any admin is pure as the wind driven snow. In fact, I expect a fair amount of ugly, underhanded politics. But there's a big difference between that and illegal conduct. There's a big difference between that and conspiring with foreign agents to steal an election (it bears repeating that the best evidence of this so far is what Clinton did through Perkins Cole / Fusion GPS / Michael Steele).

Political disputes should be decided at the ballot box. Liberals lost. They'll get another shot this fall, and 2020, and on and on. Instead they're trying to nullify 2016.
Illegal acts is what I'm referring to. I honestly don't know...that's what an investigation is for. To sit here today and say you know nothing illegal happened is naive. Investigate Hillary too...IDGAF about her but saying "well she did this so we are clean" is idiotic and you are either gE'ing or putting party before our country.  I hope it's the former.

If a special prosecutor hunts long enough, he'll find something. He's already found a couple instances of perjury and some obscure lobbying infractions by Manafort from years before. But he was tasked with investigating whether Americans conspired with foreign agents to steal the 2016 election. And after over a year, with Democrats both in Congress and the administrative state leaking everything they think will harm Trump, there simply hasn't been any evidence produced that this happened. Hell, if you believe even 1/10 of Michael Wolff's recent tabloid trash (which is probably about the percentage of factual material), the Trump campaign was far too incompetent to conspire with Russia.

He was tasked to investigate conspiring with Russia as well as "any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a)" — including perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses."

which it appears Trump and/or his peeps are going to check every one of those boxes.....but he only did it because he thought the charge was a witch hunt, even though the investigation was started because his own dude said they were doing it.....and that's in the memo you guys are holding to be gospel BTW.

There are obviously more signals than just the Steele dossier that got this going and kept it going...so as a good American, shouldn't you want the investigation to finish to make sure the guy you are holding up, actually was on the up and up...or nah?

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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4243 on: February 06, 2018, 06:07:52 PM »
If you Dems are/were so concerned about Russia exploiting U.S. politicians to put Russian interests over the United State's interest then you should have been calling for a special prosecutor to investigate the person Trump ran against, months ago.

She and her husband and their fake foundation pocketed millions of dollars from the Russians.   The very top of the DNC was representing Russian Oligarchs in DC.

The Dem candidate for president bought control of the DNC and the primary process using Russian cash.







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« Reply #4244 on: February 06, 2018, 06:16:10 PM »
Probably just FBI against her. 


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Re: Crooked FBI Swamp, Strzok, Ohr, Mrs Ohr, ???
« Reply #4245 on: February 06, 2018, 06:24:05 PM »
I don't know how Hillary gets away with all this crap and never ever gets investigated, so unfair #whyiseveryonepickingonrepublicansallthetimelikeseriouslyomg
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« Reply #4246 on: February 06, 2018, 06:54:55 PM »
I think most people do not believe the Trump campaign knowingly colluded/conspired with Russia, but that Russia was successfully able to exploit the Trump campaign to promote Russia's interests over America's.

That's interesting. Please elaborate how Russia successfully exploited the Trump campaign to promote Russian interests over America's.

Most recently how the WH did not at all take seriously Congress’s request to compile a list of oligarchs. Also his indication that he does not intend to impose more sanctions despite apparent bipartisan support to do so.

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« Reply #4247 on: February 06, 2018, 06:57:13 PM »
Also repeating Putin talking points drawing false equivalents between problems in America and problems in Russia.

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« Reply #4248 on: February 06, 2018, 07:14:36 PM »
I can't imagine what typing "but Hillary" as a response to every possible situation must feel like.

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« Reply #4249 on: February 06, 2018, 07:19:32 PM »
I think most people do not believe the Trump campaign knowingly colluded/conspired with Russia, but that Russia was successfully able to exploit the Trump campaign to promote Russia's interests over America's.

That's interesting. Please elaborate how Russia successfully exploited the Trump campaign to promote Russian interests over America's.

Most recently how the WH did not at all take seriously Congress’s request to compile a list of oligarchs. Also his indication that he does not intend to impose more sanctions despite apparent bipartisan support to do so.

List of oligarchs huh, that SONOVABITCH!!!
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