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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #100 on: November 08, 2016, 02:04:58 PM »
For better or worse, I shape the lives of America's youth one math class at a time, so I'm not always able to stay current with what's been posted on the board...forgive me if this is a total repeat.  A theory:

Bill, John and BV have already worked out a deal to make BV the head coach in waiting next year as well as DC.  This would have been done sooner, but BV wanted to give himself the opportunity to be a coach on a NC team, which another year of DeShaun Watson potentially gives him this year.  This would explain why Hayes was brought back despite evidence suggesting he wanted to retire after last year.  BV will take over the D next year, bring with him an offensive mind capable of putting together a game plan that doesn't completely boggle the mind, and Bill will ride off into the sunset with a team capable of making some noise nationally next year.

Holes:  John Currie may not be capable of actually pulling this off.  Bill may be too delusional/egotistical/old to realize it's time to call it a day.  BV gets an offer he can't refuse from somewhere else.

What else am I missing?

I don't buy the BV brings in a different OC.  If Bill agrees to step down this year, it's because he's blessed the succession plan.  For him to bless the succession plan, everyone not retiring retains their jobs.  Otherwise, he stays.  He's not going to bless a plan where BV fires Dimel.
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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #101 on: November 08, 2016, 02:08:45 PM »
Yep, dead on. Again I'll state if McCrane was out because of injury he clearly did not agree. And if he was unavailable I have no idea why the coaches allowed him to fully dress out, helmet and all.

My gut tells me he has an injury that allowed him to go thru pregame with Sean watching and Sean didn't feel like he was strong enough to play.  McCrane disagreed, then really disagreed after the missed XP.
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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #103 on: November 08, 2016, 02:58:47 PM »
fwiw, Jerry Kill was on the sidelines straight up saying he would have Barnes in at RB all the time if he were coach

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #104 on: November 08, 2016, 03:02:22 PM »
I thought barnes looked much faster than I ever thought he'd be saturday, good sign.  He's clearly physical enough.

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« Reply #105 on: November 08, 2016, 03:14:46 PM »
fwiw, Jerry Kill was on the sidelines straight up saying he would have Barnes in at RB all the time if he were coach
Unfortunately he probably going to get to make that decision.

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #106 on: November 08, 2016, 03:17:52 PM »
I mean, Barnes is fine but he definitely isn't a standout among the top 4 RB's.

Is he?

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #107 on: November 08, 2016, 03:19:06 PM »
Barnes has a way bigger body than I anticipated. I always think he's dimel taking the carry. Kind of exciting.
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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #108 on: November 08, 2016, 03:20:03 PM »
fwiw, Jerry Kill was on the sidelines straight up saying he would have Barnes in at RB all the time if he were coach
Also, Kill recruited him, so that makes sense.

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #109 on: November 08, 2016, 03:38:28 PM »
Allow me to help you guys out, all of our RBs suck

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #110 on: November 08, 2016, 04:03:13 PM »
Allow me to help you guys out, all of our RBs suck

Calm down there, Chicken Little.

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #111 on: November 08, 2016, 09:48:37 PM »
I mean, Barnes is fine but he definitely isn't a standout among the top 4 RB's.

Is he?

Barnes is our strongest, biggest, and fastest back we have.  Yes, I said fastest.  He is head and shoulders the best RB we have and he is only a redshirt freshman. 

I'm not sure, but has he had a negative play? 


Damn!  He trippin' so hard fans are gonna think he done fell off!

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #112 on: November 08, 2016, 09:49:17 PM »
I mean, Barnes is fine but he definitely isn't a standout among the top 4 RB's.

Is he?

Barnes is our strongest, biggest, and fastest back we have.  Yes, I said fastest.  He is head and shoulders the best RB we have and he is only a redshirt freshman. 

I'm not sure, but has he had a negative play? 


Damn!  He trippin' so hard fans are gonna think he done fell off!
Good to know!

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #113 on: November 08, 2016, 10:23:36 PM »
based upon data supplied by poster delerioustyme, it sounds like this barnes kid is a standout rb


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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #114 on: November 08, 2016, 10:49:18 PM »
But can he pick up a blitz so ertz can underthrow Pringle 25 yards down field

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #115 on: November 09, 2016, 11:20:35 AM »
I mean, Barnes is fine but he definitely isn't a standout among the top 4 RB's.

Is he?

Barnes is our strongest, biggest, and fastest back we have.  Yes, I said fastest.  He is head and shoulders the best RB we have and he is only a redshirt freshman. 

I'm not sure, but has he had a negative play? 


Damn!  He trippin' so hard fans are gonna think he done fell off!

Fastest? If he is it isn't by much. People get frustrated by Jones because he isn't a big play RB. I don't think Alex is either.

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #116 on: November 09, 2016, 11:30:29 AM »
I like rotating silmon/barnes and think of them as almost interchangeable warmack is a nice change of pace tho and I think he is our quickest and most shifty back.
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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #117 on: November 09, 2016, 12:05:21 PM »
why can't snyder's coaching staff solidify playing time at the offensive skill positions

arguing who our best back of our top 4 backs is after 9 games is hilario


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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #118 on: November 09, 2016, 12:07:06 PM »
how great would it be to see us run the ol' wishbone in Waco? 

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #119 on: November 09, 2016, 12:24:14 PM »
why can't snyder's coaching staff solidify playing time at the offensive skill positions

arguing who our best back of our top 4 backs is after 9 games is hilario

We haven't had one true starting quarterback for an entire season since Colleien Klein left in 2012. Think about that.
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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #120 on: November 09, 2016, 12:27:32 PM »
why can't snyder's coaching staff solidify playing time at the offensive skill positions

arguing who our best back of our top 4 backs is after 9 games is hilario

We haven't had one true starting quarterback for an entire season since Colleien Klein left in 2012. Think about that.

This year and 2014 the #1 QB was very clear.

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #121 on: November 09, 2016, 12:30:03 PM »
why can't snyder's coaching staff solidify playing time at the offensive skill positions

arguing who our best back of our top 4 backs is after 9 games is hilario

We haven't had one true starting quarterback for an entire season since Colleien Klein left in 2012. Think about that.

That isn't true at all, we just haven't had a starting QB this board was willing to accept. Waters was absolutely, 100% our every down starting QB, both years, as is Ertz now. I guess you can say we didn't last year but the guy they named the started got hurt the first offensive play of the year.

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #122 on: November 09, 2016, 12:30:41 PM »
why can't snyder's coaching staff solidify playing time at the offensive skill positions

arguing who our best back of our top 4 backs is after 9 games is hilario

We haven't had one true starting quarterback for an entire season since Colleien Klein left in 2012. Think about that.

This year and 2014 the #1 QB was very clear.

And last year was pretty clear too, until injury, no?

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #123 on: November 09, 2016, 12:31:42 PM »
why can't snyder's coaching staff solidify playing time at the offensive skill positions

arguing who our best back of our top 4 backs is after 9 games is hilario

We haven't had one true starting quarterback for an entire season since Colleien Klein left in 2012. Think about that.

This year and 2014 the #1 QB was very clear.

In '13 Sams only played in Wildcat type plays and when Waters got hurt.

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Re: Terrible KSU Coaching Decisions Thread
« Reply #124 on: November 09, 2016, 12:32:33 PM »
why can't snyder's coaching staff solidify playing time at the offensive skill positions

arguing who our best back of our top 4 backs is after 9 games is hilario

We haven't had one true starting quarterback for an entire season since Colleien Klein left in 2012. Think about that.

This year and 2014 the #1 QB was very clear.

And last year was pretty clear too, until injury, no?

Yeah, it would have been.

MIR's point about 2013 is valid (Waters was pretty clear) but I still take Snyder's "Daniel should play more" comments that the staff was at least having some level of debate.