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Title: It's Venables
Post by: kim carnes on December 25, 2015, 05:28:13 PM
We hired venables to be our next head football coach!!!
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: SdK on December 25, 2015, 05:31:13 PM
Huh?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: HELLHAMMER on December 25, 2015, 05:45:30 PM
Too much eggnog Fitz?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: kim carnes on December 25, 2015, 06:02:02 PM
You fellas read the board at all?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: slackcat on December 25, 2015, 06:44:50 PM
Stupid thread.  Seriously, threads like this just piss me off. :shakesfist:

Proof, damn it, proof.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: kim carnes on December 25, 2015, 07:05:52 PM
You want proof?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: HerrSonntag on December 25, 2015, 07:10:24 PM
Who had a KC post on their christmas list? 

I know i didn't have a KC post on my christmas list.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: kim carnes on December 25, 2015, 07:19:45 PM
Who had a KC post on their christmas list? 

I know i didn't have a KC post on my christmas list.

What is your deal bro?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: kso_FAN on December 25, 2015, 07:29:15 PM
http://youtu.be/m9OSuy4e4HU
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: kim carnes on December 25, 2015, 07:39:37 PM
BV baby
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: wabash909 on December 25, 2015, 07:40:09 PM
You know, there's nothing better than Bette Davis Eyes.

Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: HerrSonntag on December 25, 2015, 07:40:23 PM
Who had a KC post on their christmas list? 

I know i didn't have a KC post on my christmas list.

What is your deal bro?
Just raz'n ya, bro. Good to see you again
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: wetwillie on December 25, 2015, 07:46:19 PM
Announcement is eminent
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: slackcat on December 25, 2015, 08:29:42 PM
I like this rumor the best.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: BackPayne on December 25, 2015, 08:36:14 PM
I like this rumor the best.

This is definitely the best rumor.  Kim Carnes-1, Pissclams-0
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 25, 2015, 11:27:01 PM
Announcement is eminent

It's inevenable
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: muqluk on December 25, 2015, 11:28:58 PM
Announcement is eminent

It's inevenable
/thread
 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MadCat on December 25, 2015, 11:34:59 PM
Les Vénables

Vive la Venzy
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 26, 2015, 08:47:28 AM
 :flush:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Pete on December 26, 2015, 10:19:13 AM
Most of you already know this, but I'll post this again for some of the annual new-to-goEMAW-christmas-visitors we get.  "Venables" is a village and commune of the Eure département in Haute-Normandie, France.  The village dates back some 7,000 years. 

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/Venables_colline.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/58/Venables_eglise.jpg/230px-Venables_eglise.jpg)

(http://www.sloansterling.com/venables/images/venables1996.jpg)
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: TwobizE2P on December 26, 2015, 10:57:06 AM
Most of you already know this, but I'll post this again for some of the annual new-to-goEMAW-christmas-visitors we get.  "Venables" is a village and commune of the Eure département in Haute-Normandie, France.  The village dates back some 7,000 years. 

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/Venables_colline.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/58/Venables_eglise.jpg/230px-Venables_eglise.jpg)

(http://www.sloansterling.com/venables/images/venables1996.jpg)

Yep, and based on the pictures, it's everything I hoped it would be. Measures up to all the hype and anticipation.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: chum1 on December 26, 2015, 11:06:05 AM
Was Julie looking at houses near Tuttle Creek? Possibly.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: HerrSonntag on December 26, 2015, 12:18:27 PM
Most of you already know this, but I'll post this again for some of the annual new-to-goEMAW-christmas-visitors we get.  "Venables" is a village and commune of the Eure département in Haute-Normandie, France.  The village dates back some 7,000 years. 

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5b/Venables_colline.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/58/Venables_eglise.jpg/230px-Venables_eglise.jpg)

(http://www.sloansterling.com/venables/images/venables1996.jpg)

Yep, and based on the pictures, it's everything I hoped it would be. Measures up to all the hype and anticipation.
Hey, knock it off new guys.  Your text goes outside of the quote blocks, all of them


Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: kim carnes on January 11, 2016, 07:59:47 PM
Bump.  Venables mind is clearly somewhere else tonight.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: pissclams on January 11, 2016, 08:02:22 PM
i'm guessing he's a little preoccupied on who ben is keeping around tonight (and Lace)
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Pete on January 11, 2016, 08:26:18 PM

Bump.  Venables mind is clearly somewhere else tonight.

Does this not remind you of 1998 all over again?  Spooky.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: chum1 on January 11, 2016, 08:33:55 PM
Not getting much facetime.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: That_Guy on January 11, 2016, 08:41:01 PM

Not getting much facetime.

Good sign.


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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 11, 2016, 08:42:28 PM
He's already wearing emaw gear and ESPN is trying not to give it away, probably
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Demo158 on January 12, 2016, 01:24:34 AM

Bump.  Venables mind is clearly somewhere else tonight.

Does this not remind you of 1998 all over again?  Spooky.
Man, it just feels right...
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Demo158 on January 12, 2016, 01:27:29 AM
If I were to take a guess at what was going through Venzy's head after tonight's game, I'd say it was "I'll see you again in a few years Nick, when I'm coaching my alma mater to a title win over the tide..."
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: That_Guy on January 12, 2016, 02:12:10 AM

If I were to take a guess at what was going through Venzy's head after tonight's game, I'd say it was "I'll see you again in a few years Nick, when I'm coaching my alma mater to a title win over the tide..."

Will take



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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 12, 2016, 08:47:27 AM
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTD7NLuBbvzoou9XFPE6ekqlYnl53k3-obV1R36hjHISt-s-_XgnJfc5Q)
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 15, 2016, 10:30:24 AM
I'm still jonesing to wake up one day in 2017 to hear this news
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Katpappy on June 15, 2016, 01:37:00 PM
I'm still jonesing to wake up one day in 2017 to hear this news
Horn dog.  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 'taterblast on July 08, 2016, 04:22:13 PM
Guess who's in town?!


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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 08, 2016, 04:23:49 PM
 :D
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: meow meow on July 08, 2016, 04:27:27 PM
The time is now!
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: steve dave on July 08, 2016, 04:30:04 PM
 :drool:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: star seed 7 on July 08, 2016, 04:30:49 PM
Lock up your daughters
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Cartierfor3 on July 08, 2016, 04:36:26 PM
back the truck up just a tick, is he in town on business or is this for personal reasons?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 'taterblast on July 08, 2016, 05:06:09 PM
http://www.nsuf.org/weekend.php (http://www.nsuf.org/weekend.php)
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: That_Guy on July 08, 2016, 06:45:28 PM
back the truck up just a tick, is he in town on business or is this for personal reasons?

Why not both?


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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: slobber on July 09, 2016, 09:04:33 AM
No Stones Foundation. Sounds about right.


Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: ELL3 on July 10, 2016, 12:50:31 AM
There is more to this story, B plus sources say
EMAWgasims in 2017
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: wetwillie on July 10, 2016, 07:41:05 AM
If Brent Venebles is the head coach of the cats in 2017 I'll take back every bad thing I've ever said about John Currie and pretend the oscar Weber era never happened.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: CNS on July 10, 2016, 09:11:20 AM
The carrot on the end of a 1-2 yr long stick.

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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Pete on July 10, 2016, 12:48:14 PM
If Brent Venebles is the head coach of the cats in 2017 I'll take back every bad thing I've ever said about John Currie and pretend the oscar Weber era never happened.

Ditto.  Would be bygones.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 10, 2016, 01:07:33 PM
If Brent Venebles is the head coach of the cats in 2017 I'll take back every bad thing I've ever said about John Currie and pretend the oscar Weber era never happened.

Ditto.  Would be bygones.

The Bridge
Water
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: manpow5 on July 10, 2016, 08:05:51 PM
I'd heavily consider donating money at some point in my life if that happened
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 11, 2016, 10:54:42 AM
If Brent Venebles is the head coach of the cats in 2017 I'll take back every bad thing I've ever said about John Currie and pretend the oscar Weber era never happened.

you'll have to pretend HARD with Bruth still on the sideline.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: CatsNShocks on July 11, 2016, 11:50:52 AM
I'd heavily consider donating money at some point in my life if that happened
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: bubbles4ksu on July 11, 2016, 11:55:43 AM
i'd get venzy's face tattooed on my face.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 11, 2016, 12:24:11 PM
I would get a mural tattooed on my back of the scene where the tattoo artists renders Venzy's face on bubble's face.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: slobber on July 12, 2016, 08:46:17 AM
I would have no need for pants, shorts, or underwear. Just dick out 100%.


Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: steve dave on July 12, 2016, 09:01:52 AM
I'd probably care about kstate football again
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Canary on July 12, 2016, 09:25:01 AM
I would have no need for pants, shorts, or underwear. Just dick out 100%.


Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
This!
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: wetwillie on July 12, 2016, 09:37:56 AM
If Brent Venebles is the head coach of the cats in 2017 I'll take back every bad thing I've ever said about John Currie and pretend the oscar Weber era never happened.

you'll have to pretend HARD with Bruth still on the sideline.

I'll actively cheer for him and his merry band of chicken nugget ice cream eating band of misfits
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: kim carnes on January 09, 2017, 11:31:58 PM
Just got off the phone with my most trusted source... it's happening.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: star seed 7 on January 09, 2017, 11:32:56 PM
 :Woot:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 'taterblast on January 09, 2017, 11:33:16 PM
it is time.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Panjandrum on January 09, 2017, 11:34:02 PM
I'm thrilled for this man.  Thrilled.

(http://media.jrn.com/images/venables1_9707393_ver1.0_640_480.jpg)
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: KSU176 on January 09, 2017, 11:35:29 PM
come home brent.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: kim carnes on January 09, 2017, 11:39:33 PM
Get your dicks out
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: fun muffin on January 09, 2017, 11:45:38 PM
 :worthless:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: That_Guy on January 09, 2017, 11:57:53 PM
Guys....


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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 09, 2017, 11:58:36 PM
He has to.

Come home.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: BackPayne on January 09, 2017, 11:59:00 PM
:worthless:

 :lol:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: troubledscribe on January 10, 2017, 08:12:53 AM
New California head football coach.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: slackcat on January 10, 2017, 09:16:37 AM
New California head football coach.

Shut your pie hole.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: CNS on January 10, 2017, 09:21:34 AM
Kim is basically guaranteeing that it won't happen.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: PIPE on January 10, 2017, 09:58:24 AM
Kim>>Trustworthy?

Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: CNS on January 10, 2017, 10:21:11 AM
He wants to see you upset, Pipe.  Like, a lot.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Cire on January 10, 2017, 10:26:41 AM
I don't think he'll be a good head coach but I'd love to see him come here and try.


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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Shooter Jones on January 10, 2017, 11:02:40 AM
You think Venzy would keep rolling with the 16 goals or have his own "row the boat". Something like Ad Astra Per Salina
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: ArchE_Cat on January 10, 2017, 11:13:51 AM
New California head football coach.

Salina, KS -> Manhattan, KS -> Norman, OK -> Clemson, SC -> Berkley, CA. Seems logical  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: pissclams on January 10, 2017, 12:59:06 PM
You think Venzy would keep rolling with the 16 goals or have his own "row the boat". Something like Ad Astra Per Salina

i've researched every thing about venzy and know for a fact that he would eliminate all the goals on day one faster than you can sing the salina south fight song.  his motto is "goals are for losers, winners just win, so why have goals if you're a winner?"

pretty great tactical move distancing himself from "bill" snyder like that imo
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on January 10, 2017, 01:25:40 PM
You think Venzy would keep rolling with the 16 goals or have his own "row the boat". Something like Ad Astra Per Salina

i've researched every thing about venzy and know for a fact that he would eliminate all the goals on day one faster than you can sing the salina south fight song.  his motto is "goals are for losers, winners just win, so why have goals if you're a winner?"

pretty great tactical move distancing himself from "bill" snyder like that imo

This is all gospel.

PLUS, Venzy was the high bidder in a silent auction for "the binder" that was excavated during construction of the new vanier complex. He will simply copy the success that Prince had.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 10, 2017, 01:48:40 PM
lots of comedians itt
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: manpow5 on January 11, 2017, 11:22:13 AM
Was told by an A- source that Venzy has a prett serious heart condition... could be the reason he's not been picked up as a HC?  :dunno: Has this been talked about or heard from others?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 11, 2017, 11:25:20 AM
heart condition as in it bleeds purple?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: manpow5 on January 11, 2017, 11:30:36 AM
heart condition as in it bleeds purple?

Well that too... was just told it was some sort of "serious heart condition"... not a whole lot of extra info.

Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 11, 2017, 11:32:15 AM
heart condition as in it bleeds purple?

Well that too... was just told it was some sort of "serious heart condition"... not a whole lot of extra info.



seems like he's in the wrong profession then.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: CNS on January 11, 2017, 11:35:40 AM
I don't believe it.  He would have died by now.  I mean, he is animated and has coached in what.... 4 NC's now?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: joda on January 11, 2017, 12:22:29 PM
Well our current coach could literally die on the sideline and I don't think anyone would be all that shocked so...
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 11, 2017, 12:46:56 PM
it is time.

are you simply expressing your desire?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2017, 01:03:00 PM
it is time.

are you simply expressing your desire?

yes
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Johnny Wichita on January 11, 2017, 01:34:52 PM
https://twitter.com/barstooltweetss/status/800140211460182016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: kim carnes on January 11, 2017, 01:42:04 PM
Guys, my source said he was joking, he's not coming.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 11, 2017, 01:56:34 PM
cant you picture BV blasting this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaQ5jZANSe8 on his first day on the job here  :love:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: That_Guy on January 11, 2017, 02:16:25 PM
Guys, my source said he was joking, he's not coming.

Lol


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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: LeggoKatZ on January 11, 2017, 08:28:51 PM
Does anyone have a GIF of Brent's Gatorade bath after shutting out Ohio State?   :love:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 13, 2017, 03:41:46 PM
heart condition as in it bleeds purple?

Well that too... was just told it was some sort of "serious heart condition"... not a whole lot of extra info.

cocaine's a helluva drug
Title: It's Venables
Post by: That_Guy on January 13, 2017, 03:56:03 PM
]] (http://)http://www.espn.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/117863/ten-bold-predictions-for-the-big-12-in-2017http://


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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 13, 2017, 03:59:38 PM
Briles at Tech.   Blech...
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 14, 2017, 10:09:32 AM
That would confirm how losery they are
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: pvegs on January 14, 2017, 01:08:54 PM
Briles at Tech.   Blech...

i don't see it. can't even get an oc interview this year. don't see how he turns around and ends up with a p 5 hc job next year.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: KSU95 on February 15, 2017, 01:04:51 PM
I can confirm the next head coach is Venables. I sat behind him on a Southwest flight yesterday.  At first he denied being Brett, or even knowing who Brett Venables was, but I pushed him on it for 20-25 minutes.  I kept saying I know who are, I want to know what your plan for the Wildcats.  Finally he copped to it and I quote,  "You're right, I am Brett Venables I am headed to Manhattan to be the next head coach. Now can I go back to my vendor cost analysis for my company?"

I figured that some of you would not believe me so I took a picture.

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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 'taterblast on February 15, 2017, 01:06:35 PM
lol
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 15, 2017, 01:06:48 PM
Well, his name is Brent, not Brett, KSU95.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Tobias on February 15, 2017, 01:07:34 PM
that's jay bilas
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: SdK on February 15, 2017, 01:09:58 PM
I'm sold. Welcome home Brentt.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: star seed 7 on February 15, 2017, 01:16:56 PM
Scoops95
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 15, 2017, 01:19:06 PM
it does look like him so I'm going with a maybe
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: KSU95 on February 15, 2017, 01:26:22 PM
Note, I said a Southwest flight and I was sure to capture the SWA logo in the top left so you would have no reason to question my credibility.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 15, 2017, 01:27:37 PM
also seems reasonable that our guy would be an aisle guy
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: pissclams on February 15, 2017, 01:43:07 PM
I can confirm the next head coach is Venables. I sat behind him on a Southwest flight yesterday.  At first he denied being Brett, or even knowing who Brett Venables was, but I pushed him on it for 20-25 minutes.  I kept saying I know who are, I want to know what your plan for the Wildcats.  Finally he copped to it and I quote,  "You're right, I am Brett Venables I am headed to Manhattan to be the next head coach. Now can I go back to my vendor cost analysis for my company?"

I figured that some of you would not believe me so I took a picture.

:lol:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 15, 2017, 01:53:23 PM
I'd recognize those ears anywhere
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: kim carnes on February 15, 2017, 02:03:04 PM
Ya, but who the hell is brett venables, can u tell us that?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: PIPE on February 15, 2017, 02:21:07 PM
I LOL'd at my desk at work.....gonna get in trouble now. Thanks.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: deputy dawg on February 15, 2017, 03:50:52 PM
The pic tells us that the Southwest Airlines part of the story is true....
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 15, 2017, 04:11:06 PM
Brett Venables and Bert Weber, two B boarding group coaches
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: dontfeedthebear on February 16, 2017, 09:24:29 AM
Guys, keep this info from Fitz so he doesn't ruin it for us
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 16, 2017, 10:04:26 AM
Guys, keep this info from Fitz so he doesn't ruin it for us

NO MATTER WHEN the news breaks, Fitz was the first to know and will let everyone know he has sat on the info for about 2 months. Choosing to disclose it.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Winters on February 16, 2017, 10:19:30 AM
I can confirm the next head coach is Venables. I sat behind him on a Southwest flight yesterday.  At first he denied being Brett, or even knowing who Brett Venables was, but I pushed him on it for 20-25 minutes.  I kept saying I know who are, I want to know what your plan for the Wildcats.  Finally he copped to it and I quote,  "You're right, I am Brett Venables I am headed to Manhattan to be the next head coach. Now can I go back to my vendor cost analysis for my company?"

I figured that some of you would not believe me so I took a picture.

:lol:
post of the year candidate
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: pissclams on February 16, 2017, 10:47:24 AM
I can confirm the next head coach is Venables. I sat behind him on a Southwest flight yesterday.  At first he denied being Brett, or even knowing who Brett Venables was, but I pushed him on it for 20-25 minutes.  I kept saying I know who are, I want to know what your plan for the Wildcats.  Finally he copped to it and I quote,  "You're right, I am Brett Venables I am headed to Manhattan to be the next head coach. Now can I go back to my vendor cost analysis for my company?"

I figured that some of you would not believe me so I took a picture.

:lol:
post of the year candidate

possible cassy?  time will tell
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: The Big Train on February 16, 2017, 08:50:45 PM
Wow :lol:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 16, 2017, 09:24:19 PM
Common mistake.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: steve dave on February 17, 2017, 12:46:15 PM
amaze
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: treysolid on February 17, 2017, 12:53:03 PM
I like when said he pressed him for 20-25 min. zeal.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: KsuWildcatsXII on July 13, 2017, 08:01:04 AM
Sigh...



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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 13, 2017, 09:03:47 AM
He rocked those Sansabelt Coaching Pants!  :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: mhkpasa on July 13, 2017, 09:10:15 AM
need that shirt bad
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: RickRampus on July 13, 2017, 09:49:59 AM
need that shirt bad


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Post by: cfbandyman on July 13, 2017, 11:05:09 AM
need that shirt bad


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I third this motion
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: SquatchAg on July 20, 2017, 07:34:31 AM
https://twitter.com/Riley_Gates/status/887773228009213953 (https://twitter.com/Riley_Gates/status/887773228009213953)

Venzy making sure he coaches in a stadium that has his name on it, too
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: PurpleOil on July 20, 2017, 08:16:02 AM
Outstanding first post.

I doubt we hear any noise though until the season gets closer to ending.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: EMAWican on July 20, 2017, 10:14:33 AM
Would be an easy change-just changing the "S" to "V". I could go for the BVFS.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 10:25:42 AM
Proud of Brent for normal child names
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: fatdamon on July 20, 2017, 10:29:54 AM
Proud of Brent for normal child names

laney and addie are pushing it
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: star seed 7 on July 20, 2017, 10:30:49 AM
Hit the crossbar but bounced in
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: AtlantaWildcat on July 20, 2017, 10:34:51 AM
Anyone seen the post on possible new Uni's? Apparently D.Scott posted in the "far too expensive" gopowercat boards..... :Wha:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2017, 12:43:21 PM
Jake and Tyler are like the most perfect bro names. Imagine the horsing around those two get into at the dinner table and how frustrated Julie gets
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: slackcat on July 20, 2017, 01:09:48 PM
https://twitter.com/Riley_Gates/status/887773228009213953 (https://twitter.com/Riley_Gates/status/887773228009213953)

Venzy making sure he coaches in a stadium that has his name on it, too


This could have legs. :billdance:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: scottwildcat on July 20, 2017, 02:09:57 PM
Lon Kruger donated tons of money to the basketball training facility, i don't think Brent donating some money for a brick means anything at all.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 20, 2017, 02:19:20 PM
Lon Kruger donated tons of money to the basketball training facility, i don't think Brent donating some money for a brick means anything at all.

Well, no thanks for your input Mr. Negative
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: scottwildcat on July 20, 2017, 03:04:52 PM
i just will not allow myself to get sucked into the hope of Venzy coming home. i apologize for raining on that parade for others.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: cas4ksu on July 20, 2017, 03:08:09 PM
i just will not allow myself to get sucked into the hope of Venzy coming home. i apologize for raining on that parade for others.

I'm giving it a better chance now rather than when Tennessee John was still calling the shots. Agree?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: CatsNShocks on July 20, 2017, 03:31:39 PM
i just will not allow myself to get sucked into the hope of Venzy coming home. i apologize for raining on that parade for others.

Although my heart does skip a beat whenever I see this thread at the top of the list.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: scottwildcat on July 20, 2017, 03:57:57 PM
i just will not allow myself to get sucked into the hope of Venzy coming home. i apologize for raining on that parade for others.

I'm giving it a better chance now rather than when Tennessee John was still calling the shots. Agree?

meh i guess. I wouldn't think it is any substantially great chance but who knows.
Title: It's Venables
Post by: That_Guy on July 31, 2017, 05:33:41 PM
Just listened to a podcast:
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/podcast-bill-snyder-and-big-12

Ubben's go to is what has already been previously stated numerous times about how if Snyder were to retire and force Sean the job it'd be this last month and half before the season. What are the chances Snyder retires in August?


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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 31, 2017, 07:02:51 PM
Thanks for reading gE ubbs!
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: DKmode500 on July 31, 2017, 07:45:26 PM
Just listened to a podcast:
http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/podcast-bill-snyder-and-big-12

Ubben's go to is what has already been previously stated numerous times about how if Snyder were to retire and force Sean the job it'd be this last month and half before the season. What are the chances Snyder retires in August?


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 Honestly i dont see Snyder pulling this move. It just generally goes against his mantras of consistency and focus. It would be incredibly disruptive to pull that move right as fall camp is starting. Besides, i think he really likes this team and wants to coach it.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: PurpleOil on August 01, 2017, 08:26:32 AM
Short-round is still doing podcasts? I'm surprised he still has an audience. I quit following him not too long after his departure from E$ecPN
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: cas4ksu on August 01, 2017, 09:59:01 AM
His most loyal audience member is @Dlew12
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 01, 2017, 05:17:37 PM
Short-round is still doing podcasts? I'm surprised he still has an audience. I quit following him not too long after his departure from E$ecPN

Don't ever type that again.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 01, 2017, 09:51:49 PM
Can't wait for the "where were you when Snyder retired and handed the keys to Sean" thread which is gonna start in the next month. 
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: bones129 on August 02, 2017, 12:01:51 AM
Can't wait for the "where were you when Snyder retired and handed the keys to Sean" thread which is gonna start in the next month.

 :runaway:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: meow meow on August 02, 2017, 08:12:44 AM
i'm almost to the point where i've come to terms with Sean and i'm not that scared about it anymore
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: cas4ksu on August 02, 2017, 10:17:02 AM
i'm almost to the point where i've come to terms with Sean and i'm not that scared about it anymore

This.

Over the last few years, I've actually convinced myself that Sean will be good.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: manpow5 on August 02, 2017, 10:36:07 AM
i'm almost to the point where i've come to terms with Sean and i'm not that scared about it anymore

This.

Over the last few years, I've actually convinced myself that Sean will be good.

This is accurate
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: scottwildcat on August 02, 2017, 10:38:34 AM
i'm almost to the point where i've come to terms with Sean and i'm not that scared about it anymore

This.

Over the last few years, I've actually convinced myself that Sean will be good.

This is accurate

 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 02, 2017, 10:51:19 AM
Well, Sean won't be very good.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Gooch on August 02, 2017, 10:54:08 AM
Lots of Stockholm syndrome going on in here.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: manpow5 on August 02, 2017, 10:59:49 AM
Mods - please change the name of this thread to "It's NOT Venables"

Thanks
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on August 02, 2017, 12:39:18 PM
I'll go on record and say I actually want Sean to get the job.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: joda on August 02, 2017, 12:41:46 PM
I'm kinda eh, either way at this point. If we can survive a Ron Prince-ing, we can survive whatever Sean throws at us.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: meow meow on August 02, 2017, 12:46:09 PM
Snyders....how far have you went before getting a new one?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: scottwildcat on August 02, 2017, 12:49:37 PM
I'm kinda eh, either way at this point. If we can survive a Ron Prince-ing, we can survive whatever Sean throws at us.

except we wouldn't fire him after 3 seasons.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2017, 12:52:48 PM
Maybe 4 years then?

Quote
Texas Tech Red Raiders (Big 12 Conference) (2008–2011)
2007–08   Texas Tech   4–7*   4–6   T–7th   
2008–09   Texas Tech   14–19   3–13   11th   
2009–10   Texas Tech   19–16   4–12   T–9th   NIT Quarterfinals
2010–11   Texas Tech   13–19   5–11   T–10th   
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: mocat on August 02, 2017, 01:03:40 PM
not comparable wackster
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: meow meow on August 02, 2017, 01:10:00 PM
pretty sure if we're in the bottom 4 teams for 3 years in a row, people will be ready to move on.  by that time Venzy might be ready to come calm the waters
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 02, 2017, 01:12:40 PM
pretty sure if we're in the bottom 4 teams for 3 years in a row, people will be ready to move on.  by that time Venzy might be ready to come calm the waters

Yeah, I'm sure he would be willing to come coach a program that has been depleted of all talent just 3 years after turning down the job when he could have inherited a conference contender.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: SdK on August 02, 2017, 01:18:57 PM
pretty sure if we're in the bottom 4 teams for 3 years in a row, people will be ready to move on.  by that time Venzy might be ready to come calm the waters

Yeah, I'm sure he would be willing to come coach a program that has been depleted of all talent just 3 years after turning down the job when he could have inherited a conference contender.
I can't imagine reacting to events that have not yet transpired and may never occur. Must be exhausting
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2017, 01:19:38 PM
I can't really think of too many coaches who've handed over gigs to their sons. Most that come to mind are basketball. TTech, Georgetown, etc.

Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Gooch on August 02, 2017, 01:22:00 PM
I can't really think of too many coaches who've handed over gigs to their sons. Most that come to mind are basketball. TTech, Georgetown, etc.


Both examples here had shittastic results.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 02, 2017, 01:22:55 PM
OSU did it, too. Also a terrible result.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 02, 2017, 01:26:31 PM
I wouldn't be surprised that at minimum HCBS spends most of the season in the press box.





Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on August 02, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
OSU did it, too. Also a terrible result.

Sean has more experience than nearly all of those dudes combined.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Skipper44 on August 02, 2017, 01:59:27 PM
Beating KU and flirting with bowl eligibility is all HC SS needs to stay employed but if he adds a DoD 1.0 stud or two the staff I will be fully tucked
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: That_Guy on August 02, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
If Sean was good someone would have wanted him to coach elsewhere for their team.

Does anyone know if he's ever even received any calls about going elsewhere?


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Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: meow meow on August 02, 2017, 02:21:17 PM
why would he take calls if he's gonna get handed a P5 job?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 02, 2017, 02:55:10 PM
why would he take calls if he's gonna get handed a P5 job?
This. We've been down this road before.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: delerioustyme on August 02, 2017, 09:06:36 PM
I can't really think of too many coaches who've handed over gigs to their sons. Most that come to mind are basketball. TTech, Georgetown, etc.

Is oscar handing over the job to one of his daughters or am I missing something here? 


He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: catastrophe on August 03, 2017, 07:36:10 AM
If Sean was good someone would have wanted him to coach elsewhere for their team.

Does anyone know if he's ever even received any calls about going elsewhere?


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Couldn't you say the same about Venables?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 03, 2017, 08:06:25 AM
I can't really think of too many coaches who've handed over gigs to their sons. Most that come to mind are basketball. TTech, Georgetown, etc.

Is oscar handing over the job to one of his daughters or am I missing something here? 


He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!

No, he's too selfish to give us that.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: joaks01 on November 04, 2017, 12:59:00 PM

https://twitter.com/CollegeGameDay/status/926820595576082432
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: tdaver on November 04, 2017, 08:35:37 PM
Quote
He's strong. He's wiry, very twitched up.

:love:  that's what I want my football coach and team to be
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: stunted on November 04, 2017, 08:55:34 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT1R9KSpCjvgiOeziE/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 04, 2017, 09:07:30 PM
was wondering wtf that was and who was going to make a gif of it.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MadCat on November 05, 2017, 01:20:55 AM
How many sideline warnings would we get if he became HC?  :surprised:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Gooch on November 05, 2017, 10:45:59 AM
Beats the hell out of delay of game penalties.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 05, 2017, 01:22:36 PM
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/926950019097296896

who TF would text a writer to bitch about that?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2017, 01:35:24 PM
Tbh I think it's kinda stupid too
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: SdK on November 05, 2017, 04:54:09 PM
Clemson and Dabo is pretty gross.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on November 05, 2017, 05:15:19 PM
Tbh I think it's kinda stupid too

I really don't want this to turn into Sean v. Brent round 385. However, nothing about needing to be contained by a strength coach, as a 47 year old man, screams CEO of a program.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2017, 05:22:52 PM
Should just put a toddler leash on him instead of stretching out his shirts
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: mocat on November 05, 2017, 05:41:24 PM
It's pretty obvious he has no desire to be a program CEO
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: _33 on November 05, 2017, 05:53:44 PM
How anyone could possibly care about this is beyond me.
Title: It's Venables
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2017, 06:22:52 PM
He’s “contained” because his boss deems it so.  He’s like one step on the field and that dork is pulling him back.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Trim on November 05, 2017, 08:03:10 PM
If there's one thing we learned from the Frank era is that's KSU and its sports success is above sideline histrionics.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: star seed 7 on November 05, 2017, 08:07:43 PM
Well oscar seems to have a similar problem
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 05, 2017, 09:14:57 PM
omg. Someone do a photoshop thingy on the video where they put Oscar's head on Venzy's body as big strength guy pulls him back. Add chicken nuggets and other Oscar'y stuff too.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: mocat on November 05, 2017, 11:34:45 PM
@brucefreek
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 'taterblast on November 08, 2017, 09:38:04 PM
https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/928460476916424704
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: SeanSnyder4Prez on November 26, 2017, 09:08:33 PM
Being talked about for the arkansas job...  :jerk:
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 26, 2017, 09:12:04 PM
We're going to eff this up. Just deal with it.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2017, 09:21:24 PM
If Venables doesn't get a job this off season, he's never getting one.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: everyone shut up on November 26, 2017, 09:35:15 PM
If he gets a kick ass job he'll never come back home. We're getting Sean.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Pete on November 26, 2017, 09:39:41 PM
I like Venebles, and I am rooting for him as a human to just keep making $1M+ a year as a DC without the hell of being on stage 24-7 as a HC.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2017, 09:40:56 PM
If Venables doesn't get a job this off season, he's never getting one.

I've heard there are more than two or three college football coaches out there, not sure about that though.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: everyone shut up on November 26, 2017, 09:51:57 PM
Did you just reply to yourself?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2017, 10:00:37 PM
LOL yeah, munsoned the quote function, I obviously meant to quote you
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: KSURFC8 on November 26, 2017, 10:30:07 PM
I like Venebles, and I am rooting for him as a human to just keep making $1M+ a year as a DC without the hell of being on stage 24-7 as a HC.

Winning a 2nd NC and seeing your asking price go to somewhere between $4+M and $7+M can make a lot of hell tolerable.

I'm afraid that at some point soon, if we've not already reached it, we've priced ourselves right out of the market for him.

But on the upside, Schiano's probably available at a good price. Might even be willing to take a defensive position coaches job first. Hmmmm?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2017, 10:46:48 PM
I like Venebles, and I am rooting for him as a human to just keep making $1M+ a year as a DC without the hell of being on stage 24-7 as a HC.

Winning a 2nd NC and seeing your asking price go to somewhere between $4+M and $7+M can make a lot of hell tolerable.

I'm afraid that at some point soon, if we've not already reached it, we've priced ourselves right out of the market for him.

But on the upside, Schiano's probably available at a good price. Might even be willing to take a defensive position coaches job first. Hmmmm?

Brent, no one is going to pay you that much, don't be silly. Also how do you not know Schiano is Ohio State's DC, don't you guys have meetings or something?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: KSURFC8 on November 26, 2017, 10:56:46 PM
I like Venebles, and I am rooting for him as a human to just keep making $1M+ a year as a DC without the hell of being on stage 24-7 as a HC.

Winning a 2nd NC and seeing your asking price go to somewhere between $4+M and $7+M can make a lot of hell tolerable.

I'm afraid that at some point soon, if we've not already reached it, we've priced ourselves right out of the market for him.

But on the upside, Schiano's probably available at a good price. Might even be willing to take a defensive position coaches job first. Hmmmm?

Brent, no one is going to pay you that much, don't be silly. Also how do you not know Schiano is Ohio State's DC, don't you guys have meetings or something?

Rumor has it that he was the one with the camera. He'll be available to anyone soon enough.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: catastrophe on November 26, 2017, 11:08:10 PM
I like Venebles, and I am rooting for him as a human to just keep making $1M+ a year as a DC without the hell of being on stage 24-7 as a HC.

I mean, that kind of makes sense, but a desperate program will pay him $3-5 million a year and will include a sweet buyout. Keep doing the DC thing for 20 years or go through hell for 5 years or so and make the same amount of money.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: BackPayne on November 27, 2017, 02:08:39 AM
Is this what Bill is waiting for to retire? If Brent is off the table and we've made to look like fools with Leavitt, Sean will get the HC job?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: slackcat on November 27, 2017, 04:54:26 AM
Is this what Bill is waiting for to retire? If Brent is off the table and we've made to look like fools with Leavitt, Sean will get the HC job?

Evidently so. 
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2017, 09:43:07 AM
If he gets a kick ass job he'll never come back home. We're getting Sean.

Is this what Bill is waiting for to retire? If Brent is off the table and we've made to look like fools with Leavitt, Sean will get the HC job?

Let me try this again

I've heard there are more than two or three college football coaches out there, not sure about that though.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 27, 2017, 09:57:25 AM
Let me try this again

I've heard there are more than two or three college football coaches out there, not sure about that though.

The funny thing is, even a few weeks ago when the program seemed like a total crap storm, people still talked about just those names because of K-State ties.

Why the hell does no one want to branch out of the Snyder tree for a complete culture change? (I actually believe Venzy would bring that, I feel Sean and Leavitt would keep most of the staff and it would be status quo until they fail)

Is it as simple as our dumbass fan base responding with, "Ron Prince"?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: DQ12 on November 27, 2017, 10:17:06 AM
Let me try this again

I've heard there are more than two or three college football coaches out there, not sure about that though.

The funny thing is, even a few weeks ago when the program seemed like a total crap storm, people still talked about just those names because of K-State ties.

Why the hell does no one want to branch out of the Snyder tree for a complete culture change? (I actually believe Venzy would bring that, I feel Sean and Leavitt would keep most of the staff and it would be status quo until they fail)

Is it as simple as our dumbass fan base responding with, "Ron Prince"?
I'm not what the basis for your opinion regarding Leavitt's (or sean's) staff. 

But I think a huge portion of our fanbase believes what Snyder did here was "special" and acknowledge that K-State's HC position presents unique challenges (mostly due to real or perceived recruiting difficulties).  To that end, they would prefer someone with Snyder ties who has at least a modicum of first hand experience of "what it takes to win at K-State." 

I don't really think that's a "dumbass" point of view.  Especially when we have a number of very qualified guys who fit that description.
Title: It's Venables
Post by: catastrophe on November 27, 2017, 10:34:00 AM
Prince also scared a few people for sure, but it’s probably mostly selection bias. Fans like to point at success stories like Patterson, Venables, and Stoops from Snyder and Underwood for Martin as if it is a miss whenever they get away and an opportunity for success in the future if we are able to re-catch them before another major program does.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 27, 2017, 10:47:52 AM
Let me try this again

I've heard there are more than two or three college football coaches out there, not sure about that though.

The funny thing is, even a few weeks ago when the program seemed like a total crap storm, people still talked about just those names because of K-State ties.

Why the hell does no one want to branch out of the Snyder tree for a complete culture change? (I actually believe Venzy would bring that, I feel Sean and Leavitt would keep most of the staff and it would be status quo until they fail)

Is it as simple as our dumbass fan base responding with, "Ron Prince"?
I'm not what the basis for your opinion regarding Leavitt's (or sean's) staff. 

But I think a huge portion of our fanbase believes what Snyder did here was "special" and acknowledge that K-State's HC position presents unique challenges (mostly due to real or perceived recruiting difficulties).  To that end, they would prefer someone with Snyder ties who has at least a modicum of first hand experience of "what it takes to win at K-State." 

I don't really think that's a "dumbass" point of view.  Especially when we have a number of very qualified guys who fit that description.

I mean, you're definitely right. Leavitt and Brent are qualified, and I think you make Venzy say no first before truly starting an open national search. But I feel like most of our fans automatically default to Leavitt or Sean because of the "knows what it takes to win at K-State" quality, before even being open to giving someone else a chance.

I guess I just have a distorted view of the K-State job and actually think Bill himself has removed most of the deficiencies people talk about with the K-State job. And that opens it up to many many other great candidates outside of his own tree that our fans (and hell, maybe even admin) would overlook/not even give a look. Which I think is a huge mistake (dumbass point of view is probably the wrong term)

Probably doesn't even matter though, I'm an idiot and probably won't even be able to work a computer by the time Snyder actually decides to retire and there's an opening.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: KSURFC8 on November 27, 2017, 10:52:36 AM
Let me try this again

I've heard there are more than two or three college football coaches out there, not sure about that though.

The funny thing is, even a few weeks ago when the program seemed like a total crap storm, people still talked about just those names because of K-State ties.

Why the hell does no one want to branch out of the Snyder tree for a complete culture change? (I actually believe Venzy would bring that, I feel Sean and Leavitt would keep most of the staff and it would be status quo until they fail)

Is it as simple as our dumbass fan base responding with, "Ron Prince"?
I'm not what the basis for your opinion regarding Leavitt's (or sean's) staff. 

But I think a huge portion of our fanbase believes what Snyder did here was "special" and acknowledge that K-State's HC position presents unique challenges (mostly due to real or perceived recruiting difficulties).  To that end, they would prefer someone with Snyder ties who has at least a modicum of first hand experience of "what it takes to win at K-State." 

I don't really think that's a "dumbass" point of view.  Especially when we have a number of very qualified guys who fit that description.


You make some very broad assumptions that I just don't think are true. Unless you can prove otherwise.
1. If it's only perceived and not reality (i.e. recruiting), then it's not so much a problem with the program as it is a problem with and for the individual. There are other reasons besides Manhattan that keeps us from getting a larger pool of "better" recruits to attend KSU.
2. You are absolutely correct that a "huge" portion of our fan base (you should have mentioned a huge portion of the college football community in general) believes that what HCBS has accomplished at KSU is special but you cannot, without some statistical data to back your argument up, state that that same "huge" percentage would prefer someone with Snyder ties who has at least a modicum of first hand experience of "what it takes to win at K-State."

Lastly, outside of Leavitt and Venables, who are the remainder of the "number" that qualify under your criteria and that we'd actually hire? Patterson, Stoops, Mangino, Bennett? Nope, nope, nope and nope. What else you got?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2017, 11:50:54 AM
Let me try this again

I've heard there are more than two or three college football coaches out there, not sure about that though.

The funny thing is, even a few weeks ago when the program seemed like a total crap storm, people still talked about just those names because of K-State ties.

Why the hell does no one want to branch out of the Snyder tree for a complete culture change? (I actually believe Venzy would bring that, I feel Sean and Leavitt would keep most of the staff and it would be status quo until they fail)

Is it as simple as our dumbass fan base responding with, "Ron Prince"?
I'm not what the basis for your opinion regarding Leavitt's (or sean's) staff. 

But I think a huge portion of our fanbase believes what Snyder did here was "special" and acknowledge that K-State's HC position presents unique challenges (mostly due to real or perceived recruiting difficulties).  To that end, they would prefer someone with Snyder ties who has at least a modicum of first hand experience of "what it takes to win at K-State." 

I don't really think that's a "dumbass" point of view.  Especially when we have a number of very qualified guys who fit that description.

I mean, you're definitely right. Leavitt and Brent are qualified, and I think you make Venzy say no first before truly starting an open national search. But I feel like most of our fans automatically default to Leavitt or Sean because of the "knows what it takes to win at K-State" quality, before even being open to giving someone else a chance.

I guess I just have a distorted view of the K-State job and actually think Bill himself has removed most of the deficiencies people talk about with the K-State job. And that opens it up to many many other great candidates outside of his own tree that our fans (and hell, maybe even admin) would overlook/not even give a look. Which I think is a huge mistake (dumbass point of view is probably the wrong term)

Probably doesn't even matter though, I'm an idiot and probably won't even be able to work a computer by the time Snyder actually decides to retire and there's an opening.

It's not dumb, it's just lazy and 98% of college football fans don't really follow programs outside of their own so they don't know what's out there. And I completely agree with you that K-State is a completely different job than it was even in 2009. When Snyder came back we were still at a decided resource disadvantage, we don't have that anymore. The gap between college football haves and have nots is smaller than it ever has been and continuing to shrink. Now there is a small group of college football elite then everyone else.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2017, 12:28:35 PM
nothing snyder can do or has done is going to change our flyover town into a beautiful place like tuscaloosa
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2017, 12:39:58 PM
nothing snyder can do or has done is going to change our flyover town into a beautiful place like tuscaloosa
:D
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: DQ12 on November 27, 2017, 04:05:56 PM
You make some very broad assumptions that I just don't think are true. Unless you can prove otherwise.
1. If it's only perceived and not reality (i.e. recruiting), then it's not so much a problem with the program as it is a problem with and for the individual. There are other reasons besides Manhattan that keeps us from getting a larger pool of "better" recruits to attend KSU.
2. You are absolutely correct that a "huge" portion of our fan base (you should have mentioned a huge portion of the college football community in general) believes that what HCBS has accomplished at KSU is special but you cannot, without some statistical data to back your argument up, state that that same "huge" percentage would prefer someone with Snyder ties who has at least a modicum of first hand experience of "what it takes to win at K-State."

Lastly, outside of Leavitt and Venables, who are the remainder of the "number" that qualify under your criteria and that we'd actually hire? Patterson, Stoops, Mangino, Bennett? Nope, nope, nope and nope. What else you got?
1.  Maybe i shouldn't have said "perceived," because I do think K-State is at an inherent disadvantage.  I think the unique challenges at K-State have less to do with manhattan itself and more to do with its location.  We don't have any natural recruiting territory.  We don't border Texas like Oklahoma does.  We don't have a monopoly on the KS jucos anymore.  I think there are several reasons why K-State tends to finish near the bottom of the conference in recruiting, and I think Manhattan's location is among them (staff laziness is another fwiw).  To that end, I think the deck is inherently stacked against K-State talent-wise relative to most of the rest of the conference.  Do I think a dynamic recruiter could come in here and make some hay recruiting-wise despite MHK's location?  Of course.  That said, I don't think it's irrational to assume that K-State probably can't consistently rake in top 25 recruiting classes no matter who our head coach is.  Therefore, the logic goes, we need to figure out some other way to compete at a top 25 level to make up for the recruiting deficiencies.  Snyder figured out how to do that.  I can understand how someone would want a prospective coach to have first hand knowledge of how Snyder did it.

2.  I have no idea what your second point means.

To be clear, I'm not a Snyder Tree or Bust kind of guy.  All else being equal, I'd prefer the coach to have ties here, but it's not a make or break for me.  I think that guys like Leavitt, Venables, and (yes) Bielema make more sense than whoever the MAC flavor of the year coach is.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: ChiComCat on November 27, 2017, 04:27:32 PM
Sean and Leavitt are pretty openly campaigning for the job so they get mentioned frequently. BV is available every off season and has ties. I think there are plenty of other candidates but it’s tough to throw names out until there is an opening. Fleck was one I liked but he had a six week lifespan until he was likely off the market.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: ksuchris2000 on November 27, 2017, 04:31:55 PM
Has it been mentioned that Venables' son has been offered by Clemson (and Utah)?  If son commits to Clemson, does BV stay at Clemson? Signing day IS a long ways away.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 27, 2017, 04:57:25 PM
Has it been mentioned that Venables' son has been offered by Clemson (and Utah)?  If son commits to Clemson, does BV stay at Clemson? Signing day IS a long ways away.

His son is committed to Clemson already. If he signs during the early signing period in a few weeks, I think that would kind of confirm Brent's future plans to stay there. If he waits until the regular signing period in Feb, I'd say there might be a chance Venables could go somewhere else over the next two months... but who the hell knows with that guy.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2017, 05:04:55 PM
Has it been mentioned that Venables' son has been offered by Clemson (and Utah)?  If son commits to Clemson, does BV stay at Clemson? Signing day IS a long ways away.

His son is committed to Clemson already. If he signs during the early signing period in a few weeks, I think that would kind of confirm Brent's future plans to stay there. If he waits until the regular signing period in Feb, I'd say there might be a chance Venables could go somewhere else over the next two months... but who the hell knows with that guy.

If his dad left and he wanted to follow him, Clemson would absolutely grant him a release.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: meow meow on November 27, 2017, 05:11:50 PM
think Venzy has a boy already at Clemson playing and another that's in high school and just got offered there
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on November 27, 2017, 05:34:06 PM
Let me try this again

I've heard there are more than two or three college football coaches out there, not sure about that though.

The funny thing is, even a few weeks ago when the program seemed like a total crap storm, people still talked about just those names because of K-State ties.

Why the hell does no one want to branch out of the Snyder tree for a complete culture change? (I actually believe Venzy would bring that, I feel Sean and Leavitt would keep most of the staff and it would be status quo until they fail)

Is it as simple as our dumbass fan base responding with, "Ron Prince"?
I'm not what the basis for your opinion regarding Leavitt's (or sean's) staff. 

But I think a huge portion of our fanbase believes what Snyder did here was "special" and acknowledge that K-State's HC position presents unique challenges (mostly due to real or perceived recruiting difficulties).  To that end, they would prefer someone with Snyder ties who has at least a modicum of first hand experience of "what it takes to win at K-State." 

I don't really think that's a "dumbass" point of view.  Especially when we have a number of very qualified guys who fit that description.

I mean, you're definitely right. Leavitt and Brent are qualified, and I think you make Venzy say no first before truly starting an open national search. But I feel like most of our fans automatically default to Leavitt or Sean because of the "knows what it takes to win at K-State" quality, before even being open to giving someone else a chance.

I guess I just have a distorted view of the K-State job and actually think Bill himself has removed most of the deficiencies people talk about with the K-State job. And that opens it up to many many other great candidates outside of his own tree that our fans (and hell, maybe even admin) would overlook/not even give a look. Which I think is a huge mistake (dumbass point of view is probably the wrong term)

Probably doesn't even matter though, I'm an idiot and probably won't even be able to work a computer by the time Snyder actually decides to retire and there's an opening.

It's not dumb, it's just lazy and 98% of college football fans don't really follow programs outside of their own so they don't know what's out there. And I completely agree with you that K-State is a completely different job than it was even in 2009. When Snyder came back we were still at a decided resource disadvantage, we don't have that anymore. The gap between college football haves and have nots is smaller than it ever has been and continuing to shrink. Now there is a small group of college football elite then everyone else.

Bama pays Saban over $11m per year.  Lowest power 5 conference coach $1.6m.  That's a pretty big gap.  Median is probably around $3.5m, so a crap ton of P5 schools probably can't get approval to pay more than around $3m.  This is a pretty big moat for the have's.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2017, 06:07:30 PM
Let me try this again

I've heard there are more than two or three college football coaches out there, not sure about that though.

The funny thing is, even a few weeks ago when the program seemed like a total crap storm, people still talked about just those names because of K-State ties.

Why the hell does no one want to branch out of the Snyder tree for a complete culture change? (I actually believe Venzy would bring that, I feel Sean and Leavitt would keep most of the staff and it would be status quo until they fail)

Is it as simple as our dumbass fan base responding with, "Ron Prince"?
I'm not what the basis for your opinion regarding Leavitt's (or sean's) staff. 

But I think a huge portion of our fanbase believes what Snyder did here was "special" and acknowledge that K-State's HC position presents unique challenges (mostly due to real or perceived recruiting difficulties).  To that end, they would prefer someone with Snyder ties who has at least a modicum of first hand experience of "what it takes to win at K-State." 

I don't really think that's a "dumbass" point of view.  Especially when we have a number of very qualified guys who fit that description.

I mean, you're definitely right. Leavitt and Brent are qualified, and I think you make Venzy say no first before truly starting an open national search. But I feel like most of our fans automatically default to Leavitt or Sean because of the "knows what it takes to win at K-State" quality, before even being open to giving someone else a chance.

I guess I just have a distorted view of the K-State job and actually think Bill himself has removed most of the deficiencies people talk about with the K-State job. And that opens it up to many many other great candidates outside of his own tree that our fans (and hell, maybe even admin) would overlook/not even give a look. Which I think is a huge mistake (dumbass point of view is probably the wrong term)

Probably doesn't even matter though, I'm an idiot and probably won't even be able to work a computer by the time Snyder actually decides to retire and there's an opening.

It's not dumb, it's just lazy and 98% of college football fans don't really follow programs outside of their own so they don't know what's out there. And I completely agree with you that K-State is a completely different job than it was even in 2009. When Snyder came back we were still at a decided resource disadvantage, we don't have that anymore. The gap between college football haves and have nots is smaller than it ever has been and continuing to shrink. Now there is a small group of college football elite then everyone else.

Bama pays Saban over $11m per year.  Lowest power 5 conference coach $1.6m.  That's a pretty big gap.  Median is probably around $3.5m, so a crap ton of P5 schools probably can't get approval to pay more than around $3m.  This is a pretty big moat for the have's.

Did you stop reading where you bolded? Alabama certainly is an elite program. There are no power 5 schools that can't pay a coach $3.5 million if they wanted to. Maybe Boston College and Wake, maybe but everyone else can, including Kansas.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on November 27, 2017, 07:00:04 PM
LOL...i actually did stop reading after the bolded part.  my bad. 
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 19, 2018, 08:42:09 AM
WELP!

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1019928885079805952
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: pissclams on July 19, 2018, 09:17:39 AM
welp?  it means nothing.  we will easily eclipse $2.32M per year with our HC offer.  sources i talk to put our number closer to $4.5M per year
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 19, 2018, 09:19:27 AM
I'm just curious about the payout. I also don't even think he's a real candidate for us anymore.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Shooter Jones on July 19, 2018, 09:31:37 AM
I'm just curious about the payout. I also don't even think he's a real candidate for us anymore.

"Just as importantly, there's no buyout for Venables if he takes a head coaching job elsewhere. However, if Venables leaves for another assistant job, he will pay 25 percent of the remaining part of his deal. "

He may not be a real candidate, but that contract does absolutely nothing to change whether he was or still is.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 19, 2018, 09:34:56 AM
Fair. Still pretty impressive one of our guys is the highest paid assistant in the game. #RESPECT
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: I_have_purplewood on July 19, 2018, 10:37:29 AM
welp?  it means nothing.  we will easily eclipse $2.32M per year with our HC offer.  sources i talk to put our number closer to $4.5M per year

Only $4.5M?  Your sources stink bub because that's insulting.  Why don't you read the thread about the East Coast donor who is ready to throw down gazillions when Snides gets his crap together.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: BackPayne on July 19, 2018, 10:49:52 AM
Bill knows that Venables is the #1 choice for next HC, not Sean. He's waiting for Venables to take HC job before he retires. It's not working out for Bill or Sean.

This deal for Venables at Clemson is actually good for us. He gets paid a crap-ton as DC so will only leave to be HC at his choice ( :ksu:) and he doesn't have a buyout, allowing us to use that "buyout" money for his HC contract.

*100% speculation and absolutley what I want.

Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: TheTruth on July 19, 2018, 08:02:16 PM
For the last couple years I've been dreaming of Venables as the next coach, but gave the dream up. Curious what others think about the possibility of Andre Coleman or Blake Seiler as the head coach in a couple years. If one of them kicks ass at O or D coordinator, I think I would be ok with either one.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: catastrophe on July 19, 2018, 10:29:11 PM
We have momentum.  We can't afford take a chance, IMO.  If we can put the money together to offer a coach $4-$5 mil a year like we can right now, we should make a (medium sized) splash after Bill.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2018, 10:30:35 PM
We have momentum.  We can't afford take a chance, IMO.  If we can put the money together to offer a coach $4-$5 mil a year like we can right now, we should make a (medium sized) splash after Bill.
We finished behind Iowa state last year
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: catastrophe on July 19, 2018, 10:43:02 PM
Financial momentum.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2018, 08:34:47 AM
We have momentum.  We can't afford take a chance, IMO.  If we can put the money together to offer a coach $4-$5 mil a year like we can right now, we should make a (medium sized) splash after Bill.
We finished behind Iowa state last year
Ummm, we didn't https://www.ncaa.com/standings/football/fbs/big-12
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2018, 08:36:06 AM
my mistake we def have momentum
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 20, 2018, 08:41:03 AM
Not saying that, just never want to give that shitty school credit in anything. We also won head to head.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 20, 2018, 09:31:25 AM
who on earth would ever think we finished behind Iowa State?  holy crap we could blow up the team and still finish ahead of that loser
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 20, 2018, 10:29:48 AM
Pretty amazing to think that Iowa State is coming off of their best year ever and we still outperformed them in a down year.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: mocat on July 20, 2018, 11:55:05 AM
yeah finishing tied with iowa state in the standings usually means they caught some breaks and we fing sucked
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: MakeItRain on July 23, 2018, 12:14:47 AM
Bill knows that Venables is the #1 choice for next HC, not Sean. He's waiting for Venables to take HC job before he retires. It's not working out for Bill or Sean.

I'd be willing to bet at least half of K-State fans actually believe this. Bill is coaching because Bill wants to coach. It's pretty easy did him to set Sean up for the job without waiting for anyone else.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on July 23, 2018, 02:51:22 PM
The idea that Bill is making any decisions about his own football future based on rough ridin' Brent Venables is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)-o.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: TheHamburglar on July 23, 2018, 05:28:55 PM
Bill knows that Venables is the #1 choice for next HC, not Sean. He's waiting for Venables to take HC job before he retires. It's not working out for Bill or Sean.

I'd be willing to bet at least half of K-State fans actually believe this. Bill is coaching because Bill wants to coach. It's pretty easy did him to set Sean up for the job without waiting for anyone else.

One of the worst strategies Bill could take if he wanted Sean to take over would be to keep coaching as his health continues to deteriorate and he loses influence because he's close to death.  An 80+ year old weak from cancer isn't going to have much influence over anything. 
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Kat Kid on July 23, 2018, 06:09:20 PM
Bill knows that Venables is the #1 choice for next HC, not Sean. He's waiting for Venables to take HC job before he retires. It's not working out for Bill or Sean.

I'd be willing to bet at least half of K-State fans actually believe this. Bill is coaching because Bill wants to coach. It's pretty easy did him to set Sean up for the job without waiting for anyone else.

One of the worst strategies Bill could take if he wanted Sean to take over would be to keep coaching as his health continues to deteriorate and he loses influence because he's close to death.  An 80+ year old weak from cancer isn't going to have much influence over anything.

lol wut?  Do you think Bill is like a Klingon and has to constantly fight off physical challenges to his head coaching position?
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: pissclams on July 23, 2018, 08:14:25 PM
the mustang was brought in to be the king’s hand
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: TheHamburglar on July 23, 2018, 10:43:59 PM
Bill knows that Venables is the #1 choice for next HC, not Sean. He's waiting for Venables to take HC job before he retires. It's not working out for Bill or Sean.

I'd be willing to bet at least half of K-State fans actually believe this. Bill is coaching because Bill wants to coach. It's pretty easy did him to set Sean up for the job without waiting for anyone else.

One of the worst strategies Bill could take if he wanted Sean to take over would be to keep coaching as his health continues to deteriorate and he loses influence because he's close to death.  An 80+ year old weak from cancer isn't going to have much influence over anything.

lol wut?  Do you think Bill is like a Klingon and has to constantly fight off physical challenges to his head coaching position?

As Bill gets older & weaker, he'll have less influence because it will be known he won't be around.  If he wanted to make a power play to install Sean, waiting isn't his best choice.  Not to be too insensitive, but one of these off seasons the cancer, treatment he went through and age are going to catch up to him and before he knows it he'll be the quite, weak old guy shuffling around or in a wheel chair.  When that happens, the amount people that are going to care about his opinion and worry about his influence is going to drastically drop.  Right or wrong, the optics matter when someone in their 80s suddenly has their age catch up to them.  If Bill truly wants Sean, he still has a lot of campaiging for it & people with influence to convince.  Or retire in 6 weeks and pray Sean get the interim with 2 new coordinators & the team goes 8-4 or better.

I don't think it's about Sean anyway.  It's not some grand plan.  He's coaching because it's what he enjoys.
Title: Re: It's Venables
Post by: Kat Kid on July 24, 2018, 06:41:42 AM
Bill knows that Venables is the #1 choice for next HC, not Sean. He's waiting for Venables to take HC job before he retires. It's not working out for Bill or Sean.

I'd be willing to bet at least half of K-State fans actually believe this. Bill is coaching because Bill wants to coach. It's pretty easy did him to set Sean up for the job without waiting for anyone else.

One of the worst strategies Bill could take if he wanted Sean to take over would be to keep coaching as his health continues to deteriorate and he loses influence because he's close to death.  An 80+ year old weak from cancer isn't going to have much influence over anything.

lol wut?  Do you think Bill is like a Klingon and has to constantly fight off physical challenges to his head coaching position?

As Bill gets older & weaker, he'll have less influence because it will be known he won't be around.  If he wanted to make a power play to install Sean, waiting isn't his best choice.  Not to be too insensitive, but one of these off seasons the cancer, treatment he went through and age are going to catch up to him and before he knows it he'll be the quite, weak old guy shuffling around or in a wheel chair.  When that happens, the amount people that are going to care about his opinion and worry about his influence is going to drastically drop.  Right or wrong, the optics matter when someone in their 80s suddenly has their age catch up to them.  If Bill truly wants Sean, he still has a lot of campaiging for it & people with influence to convince.  Or retire in 6 weeks and pray Sean get the interim with 2 new coordinators & the team goes 8-4 or better.

I don't think it's about Sean anyway.  It's not some grand plan.  He's coaching because it's what he enjoys.

Yeah “LHC Bill Snyder’s Dying Wish” media coverage wont be persuasive at all.


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