StL County Cops Shoot Teen

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Lesson learned. If a cop tells you multiple times to put your hands on the seatback in front of you or you will be shot, you should put your hands on the seatback in front of you.

[Dugout DickStone]

 

Lesson learned. If a cop tells you multiple times to put your hands on the seatback in front of you or you will be shot, you should put your hands on the seatback in front of you.

Cuz America

[8manpick]

Land of the free!

[nicname]

From the MichCat Montana article.

The ruling came after Billings Police Officer Grant Morrison testified he feared for his life when he fired the three shots that killed 38-year-old Richard Ramirez.

This is probably the most important part of it all right here.

[mocat]

http://mic.com/articles/108372/one-tweet-shows-the-hypocrisy-of-america-s-reaction-to-white-people-rioting-at-ohio-state

[MakeItRain]

From the MichCat Montana article.

The ruling came after Billings Police Officer Grant Morrison testified he feared for his life when he fired the three shots that killed 38-year-old Richard Ramirez.

This is probably the most important part of it all right here.

I don't know why that Yahoo article left it out but Ramirez was wanted in a robbery and a shooting the previous night and the cop knew that. He had reason to think that Ramirez was strapped.

[michigancat]

From the MichCat Montana article.

The ruling came after Billings Police Officer Grant Morrison testified he feared for his life when he fired the three shots that killed 38-year-old Richard Ramirez.

This is probably the most important part of it all right here.

I don't know why that Yahoo article left it out but Ramirez was wanted in a robbery and a shooting the previous night and the cop knew that. He had reason to think that Ramirez was strapped.

ah that is a pretty big omission.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

From the MichCat Montana article.

The ruling came after Billings Police Officer Grant Morrison testified he feared for his life when he fired the three shots that killed 38-year-old Richard Ramirez.

This is probably the most important part of it all right here.

I don't know why that Yahoo article left it out but Ramirez was wanted in a robbery and a shooting the previous night and the cop knew that. He had reason to think that Ramirez was strapped.

That shouldn't have any bearing on his decision to shoot at all. Anybody could have a gun behind them in the seat whether they had been involved in a shooting or not. If you are told to show your hands multiple times and you put your hand behind you in the seat you will be shot. As a cop, it's certainly information you would like to have before you confront someone, but the outcome is going to be the same, regardless.

[michigancat]

From the MichCat Montana article.

The ruling came after Billings Police Officer Grant Morrison testified he feared for his life when he fired the three shots that killed 38-year-old Richard Ramirez.

This is probably the most important part of it all right here.

I don't know why that Yahoo article left it out but Ramirez was wanted in a robbery and a shooting the previous night and the cop knew that. He had reason to think that Ramirez was strapped.

That shouldn't have any bearing on his decision to shoot at all. Anybody could have a gun behind them in the seat whether they had been involved in a shooting or not. If you are told to show your hands multiple times and you put your hand behind you in the seat you will be shot. As a cop, it's certainly information you would like to have before you confront someone, but the outcome is going to be the same, regardless.

it absolutely should have some bearing. Someone who wasn't wanted for shooting someone would be far less likely to be armed, and probably more likely to be too confused, scared, and pumped with adrenaline when having obscenities screamed at them with a gun in their face. The approach that guy took seems like it would make a lot of bad situations far worse than they need to be.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

From the MichCat Montana article.

The ruling came after Billings Police Officer Grant Morrison testified he feared for his life when he fired the three shots that killed 38-year-old Richard Ramirez.

This is probably the most important part of it all right here.

I don't know why that Yahoo article left it out but Ramirez was wanted in a robbery and a shooting the previous night and the cop knew that. He had reason to think that Ramirez was strapped.

That shouldn't have any bearing on his decision to shoot at all. Anybody could have a gun behind them in the seat whether they had been involved in a shooting or not. If you are told to show your hands multiple times and you put your hand behind you in the seat you will be shot. As a cop, it's certainly information you would like to have before you confront someone, but the outcome is going to be the same, regardless.

it absolutely should have some bearing. Someone who wasn't wanted for shooting someone would be far less likely to be armed, and probably more likely to be too confused, scared, and pumped with adrenaline when having obscenities screamed at them with a gun in their face. The approach that guy took seems like it would make a lot of bad situations far worse than they need to be.

There was nothing confusing about the exchange.

[michigancat]

yeah, nothing scary, either. Just your typical traffic stop.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

yeah, nothing scary, either. Just your typical traffic stop.

The guy was a 38 year old meth addicted criminal that shot a guy in the arm while robbing him the night before. I don't think he was scared.

[michigancat]

yeah, nothing scary, either. Just your typical traffic stop.

The guy was a 38 year old meth addicted criminal that shot a guy in the arm while robbing him the night before. I don't think he was scared.

huh, maybe if you're a cop and you recognize a 38 year old meth addicted criminal that shot a guy in the arm while robbing him the night before you might approach the situation differently than a random citizen. And be expected to.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

yeah, nothing scary, either. Just your typical traffic stop.

The guy was a 38 year old meth addicted criminal that shot a guy in the arm while robbing him the night before. I don't think he was scared.

huh, maybe if you're a cop and you recognize a 38 year old meth addicted criminal that shot a guy in the arm while robbing him the night before you might approach the situation differently than a random citizen. And be expected to.

I think if a cop asks me I'll just raise my hands and not worry about those that don't.

[Cire]

If you think someone has a gun in a car call for effing back up or something

[8manpick]

Unless you are a cop. It is the job of the police to play judge, jury, and executioner as they stand their ground

[Dr Rick Daris]

my favorite is still the one from a few months ago where the cop approaches a guy who is out of his car at a gas station and asks him for his drivers license and then the guy opens his car door to lean in and get it for him and the cop shoots him.

[puniraptor]

my favorite is still the one from a few months ago where the cop approaches a guy who is out of his car at a gas station and asks him for his drivers license and then the guy opens his car door to lean in and get it for him and the cop shoots him.

this one is a good one because the guy lived AND the cop was charged with crimes

[Dugout DickStone]

my favorite is still the one from a few months ago where the cop approaches a guy who is out of his car at a gas station and asks him for his drivers license and then the guy opens his car door to lean in and get it for him and the cop shoots him.

this one is a good one because the guy lived AND the cop was charged with crimes

He was just standing his ground

[420seriouscat69]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/video-man-shot-dead-by-new-jersey-police-had-hands-raised/

[Rage Against the McKee]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/video-man-shot-dead-by-new-jersey-police-had-hands-raised/

Sounds like first degree murder to me. I haven't watched the video yet, but the cop had a clear motive, and if the man's hands were raised and his gun taken away, I just don't see how it's not murder.

[Cire]

it's not murder because he's a cop.

[wetwillie]

I wish you could see better, when he initially asked them to not move he freaks out and says the guy is moving but the guys right arm is out of the window.  The cop that fired his weapon appeared to be on a different planet than the other cop on the other side of the vehicle who was super calm. 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

it's not murder because he's a cop.

Its also not racist because the cop is black.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I wish you could see better, when he initially asked them to not move he freaks out and says the guy is moving but the guys right arm is out of the window.  The cop that fired his weapon appeared to be on a different planet than the other cop on the other side of the vehicle who was super calm.

The cop shot a guy he had previously arrested for shooting at cops. It was a revenge killing.