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« Reply #3250 on: October 13, 2017, 10:59:40 PM »
If a president thinks it was stupid for his predecessor to build a bunch of extra nukes, that doesn't mean it's smart to just throw them all in the garbage.

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« Reply #3251 on: October 13, 2017, 11:10:50 PM »
LOL @ stupid libs getting upset over cancer patients no longer being able to afford treatment. Just LOL @ everything about that.

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« Reply #3252 on: October 13, 2017, 11:31:47 PM »
I think what really disturbs me is KSU dub appears to be offended that poor people would even have the same quality of care or coverage that he has. Like almost a you haven't worked hard enough or produced enough value to get the kind of care I have access to.
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« Reply #3253 on: October 13, 2017, 11:35:21 PM »
Not a good look for sure
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« Reply #3254 on: October 14, 2017, 08:56:34 AM »
Insurance companies pulling out of exchanges.  Insurance companies dropping affordable plans that actually provided something and replacing them with plans with massive deductibles and out of pocket costs. 

Everything is great.

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« Reply #3255 on: October 14, 2017, 09:49:13 AM »
I think this point should be spelled out for the Dax's and KSUW's of the world: no one is saying the system was working well before. It's just definitely way worse now.

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« Reply #3256 on: October 14, 2017, 10:17:00 AM »
Insurance companies pulling out of exchanges.  Insurance companies dropping affordable plans that actually provided something and replacing them with plans with massive deductibles and out of pocket costs. 

Everything is great.

The president intentionally sabotaging the healthcare market to get the congress and senate to repeal the ACA. Totally normal. No negative consequences.
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« Reply #3257 on: October 14, 2017, 01:33:44 PM »
I think this point should be spelled out for the Dax's and KSUW's of the world: no one is saying the system was working well before. It's just definitely way worse now.

Getting worse by the month. And has nothing to do with republicans who, I'll remind you, didn't cast a single vote for this Piece. Of. crap. Law. What liberals can't seem to get through their sad skulls is this law was always doomed to fail. It was always unsustainable. It was always an idiotic idea.

I'm sorry the GOP is too incompetent and/or corrupt to fix this mess. I really am. But Trump is doing what he can do. He's signing executive orders ending the *illegal* insurance company bailout, and another order giving people a bit more freedom to buy less expensive policies. All liberals can do is gnash their teeth and bitch that GOP is killing people. An intellectually bankrupt and pathetic lament.
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« Reply #3258 on: October 14, 2017, 01:35:39 PM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #3259 on: October 14, 2017, 02:14:36 PM »
oh man we got a period after every word sentence!  :love:

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« Reply #3260 on: October 22, 2017, 01:37:08 PM »
The company I work for tried to shop around before our reenrollment. We went to three different major companies to try and get a quote and none of them would. With whom does the fault lie? Obama or Trump?

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« Reply #3261 on: October 22, 2017, 01:37:59 PM »
Neither, the fault lies with the American people.
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« Reply #3262 on: October 22, 2017, 02:03:37 PM »
Neither, the fault lies with the American people.
Damn. I wanted someone to blame.

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« Reply #3263 on: October 27, 2017, 09:30:56 AM »
I never revealed this before, but I actually used to do work for Josh Kushner's company.  :)

https://twitter.com/VFHIVE/status/923916637023154176

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« Reply #3264 on: October 28, 2017, 06:59:17 AM »
Sounds like a kickass company

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primary purpose of the op-ed seems to be to reassure investors that Oscar is prepared to weather whatever policy turmoil is headed its way. Indeed, Oscar’s financial problems predate Trump. Even before his brother went to work in Washington to help dismantle the Affordable Care Act, Josh’s billion-dollar start-up was bleeding money and retooling its reliance on Obamacare, with plans to focus on narrow networks and roll out plans to small and large businesses, moving away from individual health-insurance plans typically covered by the Affordable Care Act.

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« Reply #3265 on: October 28, 2017, 09:21:14 AM »
That reminds me of the owner of the company I worked for, a Republican, who would get pissed because Kushner's company (she alleged) got reimbursed millions of dollars from the federal government. She never used the term "bailout," but that was sort of the gist. She never seemed to have any ethical qualms over doing business with him, though.

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« Reply #3266 on: October 30, 2017, 01:15:51 PM »
I don't want to make a new thread for this. Here you go.

NYT: Economic Growth Requires Free Birth Control
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning.  They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.

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« Reply #3267 on: October 30, 2017, 01:25:17 PM »
I don't want to make a new thread for this. Here you go.

NYT: Economic Growth Requires Free Birth Control
KSUW, this is the stupidist logic I have ever heard.  Free birth control for women will rev up the economy, ,,,,???  Then they will be having sex instead working.   Liberals want everything free.  Thanks for sharing.

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« Reply #3268 on: October 30, 2017, 01:55:39 PM »
If women having free birth control were good for the economy, employers would already be incentivized to offer it (and I believe many do).

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« Reply #3269 on: October 30, 2017, 02:53:45 PM »
I think [you] has some great thoughts on this and I'd like to hear more from them.

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« Reply #3270 on: October 30, 2017, 04:49:49 PM »
I don't want to make a new thread for this. Here you go.

NYT: Economic Growth Requires Free Birth Control

Economics fail. On this logic a woman's greatest utility is at home cranking out as many kids as possible.
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« Reply #3271 on: October 30, 2017, 11:16:07 PM »
If women having free birth control were good for the economy, employers would already be incentivized to offer it (and I believe many do).
Just would foster more sexdog lawsuits and claims.   Ain't no one advocating free vasectomies.  This is sexist.  Sperms have same rights as eggs.

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« Reply #3272 on: October 31, 2017, 06:37:23 AM »
Good points, but I can see how employers and insurers may want to treat medication and surgery differently.

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« Reply #3273 on: February 28, 2018, 11:16:01 AM »
"No one is denied care"

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/28/criminalization-of-debt-imprisonment-aclu-report/

tl/dr
1. An out-of-work guy gets taken to the hospital in an ambulance
2. He can’t pay the bill
3. The city sues him to get the money
4. He misses his court date
5. Gets arrested
6. Kills himself in jail

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« Reply #3274 on: February 28, 2018, 11:22:30 AM »
Ugh
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