A sustainable path . . .

[star seed 7]

actually she just moved the the attendance secretary position or whatever cause it was at like 41k

[CNS]

Yeah, teachers in Oakland max out at $70k

In KS money that's gotta be like $43-$45k, right? 

That is super shitty to max out at that.  There are many union simple labor jobs that top that. 

[michigancat]

Yeah, teachers in Oakland max out at $70k

In KS money that's gotta be like $43-$45k, right? 

That is super shitty to max out at that.  There are many union simple labor jobs that top that.

Yeah

[sys]

libliblibliblib, you aunt should become a police officer or fireperson.

[star seed 7]

libliblibliblib, you aunt should become a police officer or fireperson.

she's very lazy

[sys]

she's very lazy

libliblibliblib, you aunt should become a police officer or fireperson.

[star seed 7]

she's very lazy

libliblibliblib, you aunt should become a police officer or fireperson.

i'll mention it to her i guess

[Stellarcat]

I'm in my 14th year, Master's degree plus 12 hours, and make $50,000.  I started at $34,000 in 1997.  (didn't teach from 2010 until this year)  If I didn't have my Master's, I would be making $43,000. 

[wetwillie]

I'm in my 14th year, Master's degree plus 12 hours, and make $50,000.  I started at $34,000 in 1997.  (didn't teach from 2010 until this year)  If I didn't have my Master's, I would be making $43,000. 

Way aren't you administrating by now ?

[Stellarcat]

Because I would rather jab a fork in my eye than be a principal.

My Master's is in counseling.

[SdK]

Good friend of mine is a principal. He loves his job. Also money in the bank shawty whatchu thank.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

She was about 15 years in with a masters and was teaching at risk kids. It was their last stop before jail, so she made a little more than average. Going to the prison system didn't change the type of students that much, but she has the ultimate leverage available to keep the class focused.

[Cire]

I have a friend who is a principle and likes it but he tallied his hours and he's making marginally more because of the hours.   Likes it misses coaching

[CNS]

If we could put guards in the class room, that just may solve it all, guys.  Or maybe put all kids in prison?  Prolly work either way.

[michigancat]

I think the story of a teacher making $90k who would rather work in a prison is a perfect anecdote supporting the idea that most teaching positions should pay waaaaaaaaay more than they currently do.

[Cire]

A huge problem is that teachers need a lot of school.   And let's face it, the teachers aren't the ones getting full roses.   They graduate and make 35k with a 300 dollar a month bill.

[8manpick]

A huge problem is that teachers need a lot of school.   And let's face it, the teachers aren't the ones getting full roses.   They graduate and make 35k with a 300 dollar a month bill.

Don't they just need the 4 years everyone else needs?

[Cire]

my wife graduated kstate in 3.5 years with a 25k bill.

kstate is dirt cheap.

[Rage Against the McKee]

A huge problem is that teachers need a lot of school.   And let's face it, the teachers aren't the ones getting full roses.   They graduate and make 35k with a 300 dollar a month bill.

Don't they just need the 4 years everyone else needs?

I think everyone else makes more than 35k though.

[Kat Kid]

A huge problem is that teachers need a lot of school.   And let's face it, the teachers aren't the ones getting full roses.   They graduate and make 35k with a 300 dollar a month bill.

Don't they just need the 4 years everyone else needs?

The only way to get raises is to continue your education.  Almost everyone making a career of it has at least a Master's degree.

[kim carnes]

why are you guys even discussing this?  we're not going to start paying teachers more because we don't need to and it won't help.  if you want to make a lot of money then you need to work in an industry that involves making profit.  if you don't want to teach, don't.  case closed.  end of story.

[420seriouscat69]

Getting paid $45K for 9 months of work doesn't sound that bad. Plus, you can do a second job in the summer.

[Cire]

A huge problem is that teachers need a lot of school.   And let's face it, the teachers aren't the ones getting full roses.   They graduate and make 35k with a 300 dollar a month bill.

Don't they just need the 4 years everyone else needs?

The only way to get raises is to continue your education.  Almost everyone making a career of it has at least a Master's degree.

A new"thing" is to scrap schedules and pay per market and evaluation.  A district in Colorado is doing it and word in Olathe is that the superintendent and the board are holding out to do something similar

[Rage Against the McKee]

Getting paid $45K for 9 months of work doesn't sound that bad. Plus, you can do a second job in the summer.

We should just work them 11 months and adjust their salary accordingly.

[8manpick]

Getting paid $45K for 9 months of work doesn't sound that bad. Plus, you can do a second job in the summer.

We should just work them 11 months and adjust their salary accordingly.

Why? What would they do?