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Can we talk Stokes?
« on: March 09, 2018, 08:03:07 PM »
For heavens sakes. He cannot see the floor again this year.


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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2018, 08:04:24 PM »
I hope he transfers

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2018, 08:10:40 PM »
He'll be fine, just pressing. If he can return to old form  :love:
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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2018, 08:12:47 PM »
His ass needs to find a new team. 

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2018, 08:13:45 PM »
Oh I want him back next year, but he can't play again this year. McGuirl was far superior tonight.
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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2018, 08:21:45 PM »
Doesn't seem as if Sneed is much better.

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2018, 08:23:06 PM »
He's never been an elite player.  Now that he's been hurt again, he is below replacement level.
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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2018, 08:43:22 PM »
I hope he transfers

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2018, 08:47:52 PM »
Kam had started to play so well before he got hurt, it's sad. He doesn't look like his injury is the reason for Kam's problems right now. I guess it could be if his foot isn't fully healed and he's having trouble jumping on his shot, it doesn't appear that's the case though.

There isn't much oscar can do about it right now, he needs to get some minutes. All we can hope for is that he shakes whatever this is during the summer.

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2018, 08:54:49 PM »
Kam had started to play so well bfore he got hurt, it's sad. He doesn't look like his injury is the reason for Kam's problems right now. I guess it could be if his foot isn't fully healed and he's having trouble jumping on his shot, it doesn't appear that's the case though.

There isn't much oscar can do about it right now, he needs to get some minutes. All we can hope for is that he shakes whatever this is during the summer.
Good post.  Stokes was shooting over 40% from three before his injury.  He needs to keep getting some minutes and taking a few threes to see if he gets his stroke back.  Same with Sneed.  Both need to limit the number of threes they take till they start hitting again.  Lets hope its next week. 

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2018, 09:31:20 PM »
I'm actually fine if he decides to finish his career somewhere else. I hate to say that, but that's where I'm at.

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2018, 09:37:15 PM »
He's been back for 11 games.  I don't think he's 100% by any means but he has a good amount of wide open 3s.  His piss poor shooting is more than just a foot that isn't healthy.

Stokes at the end of last year was shooting a terrible % too.   One issue I have is if he is 2-7 on FGs he seems to do very little else to really help us

* Last 12 games last year- 28% 3pt, 29% 2pt
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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2018, 09:57:44 PM »
I'm actually fine if he decides to finish his career somewhere else. I hate to say that, but that's where I'm at.

That's crazy. McGuirl hasn't come close to proving that he's any better and Kam at his best is better than anything Cartier has done.

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2018, 10:11:29 PM »
Stokes has been one of our best players over the past 3 seasons. Wanting to run him for coming back too soon from injury is insanely short-sighted, even for bbs speak
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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2018, 10:16:36 PM »
Can we recruit over stokes? No


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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2018, 10:29:06 PM »
Killa Kam was a beast no doubt, I just don’t know if he’s ever coming back.   The mind is a fragile thing.
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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2018, 10:37:36 PM »
I'm actually fine if he decides to finish his career somewhere else. I hate to say that, but that's where I'm at.
Agreed

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2018, 10:42:17 PM »
whats up with diarra as well, he's been mediocre

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2018, 10:43:55 PM »
I'm actually fine if he decides to finish his career somewhere else. I hate to say that, but that's where I'm at.
Holy cow that's crazy reactionary. I've never been a huge Kam fan but there's no way he's 100% and he has proven over ~2 seasons that he's a competent B12 guard.

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2018, 10:57:47 PM »
he has proven over ~2 seasons that he's a competent B12 guard.

not really.  i mean he can play in this league, but as a starting pg he's probably 10th out of 10.
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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2018, 11:01:18 PM »
We played our best brand of basketball when Kam went out, we have fallen away from that or haven’t been able to maintain it, but that’s what we should be chasing.
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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2018, 11:03:58 PM »
i'm not agreeing with the idea of recruiting over him.  he's almost certainly better than anyone they can get as a spring replacement.  but if he's starting next year, that's not a good sign for kstate.
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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2018, 11:35:52 PM »
he has proven over ~2 seasons that he's a competent B12 guard.

not really.  i mean he can play in this league, but as a starting pg he's probably 10th out of 10.

But he's not a starting point guard anymore. What's not being discussed is how his move to the bench may be affecting his game. oscar and Chris has said they moved him to the bench to give the bench more scoring but it's pretty clear he isn't close to his best in this role. If he stays here and continues to be our 6th man he'll be more effective given time to adjust to the role.

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Re: Can we talk Stokes?
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2018, 11:38:14 PM »
he has proven over ~2 seasons that he's a competent B12 guard.

not really.  i mean he can play in this league, but as a starting pg he's probably 10th out of 10.
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