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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #450 on: June 13, 2018, 09:44:20 AM »
One day it's "NK troops will be marching straight into Seoul", the next day it's "it's a Trump Con Job" from LibBot Nation.

Yes, these are indeed fantastic times.

The most fantastic thing about this, is the restraint.   They way in which NK conducted their test launches could easily have been considered an act of war.    LibBots simply only want one thing, whatever is Anti-Trump.
Given Trump says both sides of every single topic not sure that's possible...but boogeymen aren't going to fight themselves.

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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #451 on: June 13, 2018, 09:47:31 AM »
One day it's "NK troops will be marching straight into Seoul", the next day it's "it's a Trump Con Job" from LibBot Nation.

Yes, these are indeed fantastic times.

The most fantastic thing about this, is the restraint.   They way in which NK conducted their test launches could easily have been considered an act of war.    LibBots simply only want one thing, whatever is Anti-Trump.
Given Trump says both sides of every single topic not sure that's possible...but boogeymen aren't going to fight themselves.

I was simply paraphrasing the rantings of LibBot nation.

Again, the refusal of LibBot nation to recognize the abject failure of the previous 8 years prior to Trump to deal with the NK nuclear situation is deafening in tone, and massive in scope.   But in the context of the giant F-  that was Obama's foreign policy, not surprising.




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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #452 on: June 13, 2018, 09:48:02 AM »
Remember the libtard whining about the "party of no".

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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #453 on: June 13, 2018, 09:50:42 AM »
According to North Korea media, Trump agreed to lift sanctions. I honestly don't know if they are lying or not.
Why wouldn't that be true?

if you don't assume that trump is lying at almost all times, you might think it wouldn't be true since trump said we aren't.
I would expect that we agreed to lift some sanctions conditioned on counter obligations (i.e. denuclearization) on the part of NK.  I think that's how most international agreements work.


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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #454 on: June 13, 2018, 09:57:15 AM »
Remember the libtard whining about the "party of no".

It's AMAZE to behold

The list of people/entities/things that Libs now agree with/are complicit with is astounding when compared to the backdrop of History.   They're quite literally all over the map, and frankly, maniacal at this juncture.   All because Hillary didn't win.


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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #455 on: June 13, 2018, 10:22:45 AM »
I would expect that we agreed to lift some sanctions conditioned on counter obligations (i.e. denuclearization) on the part of NK.  I think that's how most international agreements work.

i also assume that trump made non-public assurances on the subject of sanctions and other concessions.  however; i don't think that is typical of how international aggreements work.
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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #456 on: June 13, 2018, 10:37:57 AM »
I would expect that we agreed to lift some sanctions conditioned on counter obligations (i.e. denuclearization) on the part of NK.  I think that's how most international agreements work.

i also assume that trump made non-public assurances on the subject of sanctions and other concessions.  however; i don't think that is typical of how international aggreements work.
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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #457 on: June 13, 2018, 10:49:27 AM »
Does this fall into treaty territory or some loophole that doesn’t require congressional approval
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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #458 on: June 13, 2018, 10:52:07 AM »
Does this fall into treaty territory or some loophole that doesn’t require congressional approval

Congressional approval for what?  Apparently we either signed a paper promising to stop war exercises or with both parties promising nothing.

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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #459 on: June 13, 2018, 10:59:07 AM »
The Iran deal was a “political commitment” I guess this falls under the same weird category.
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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #460 on: June 13, 2018, 11:09:07 AM »
The Iran deal was a “political commitment” I guess this falls under the same weird category.
Hopefully Trump doesn't take same approach.

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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #461 on: June 13, 2018, 11:44:39 AM »
The Iran deal was a “political commitment” I guess this falls under the same weird category.
Hopefully Trump doesn't take same approach.

Great post and heard a montage of of pundits after the worthless Iranian Nuclear, non-signed MOU.   Universally lauded as an unparralled piece of diplomacy . . . before they were aware of the $5.2 billion plus in cash, of course.


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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #462 on: June 13, 2018, 12:55:22 PM »
Does this fall into treaty territory or some loophole that doesn’t require congressional approval

Presidents can sign treatys, they need 2/3rds approval from the Senate to be ratified. There are lots of treaties the US is signatory to but can't get ratified like Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, Paris, Banning Landmines. But the President has pretty wide powers to withdraw from treaties. George W. Bush got lots of criticism for withdrawing from the ABM to try and build a missile defense system, but I am pretty sure he was able to do it without congressional approval and the ABM was ratified.
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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #463 on: June 13, 2018, 12:58:34 PM »
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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #464 on: June 13, 2018, 01:12:22 PM »
Lol
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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #465 on: June 13, 2018, 01:16:31 PM »
https://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2018/06/283183.htm
If you want to see the whole context/transcript.


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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #466 on: June 13, 2018, 01:51:11 PM »
That makes him look even worse
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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #467 on: June 13, 2018, 01:59:45 PM »
That makes him look even worse
I honestly couldn't tell which question he was pissed about.  I think he was pissed that they kept referring to "irreversible" and "verifiable" not being in the document when he already said that "complete" encompassed those two terms. 


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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #468 on: June 13, 2018, 02:02:48 PM »
I think he was pissed that they kept referring to "irreversible" and "verifiable" not being in the document when he already said that "complete" encompassed those two terms.

the journalists may have thought the public would desire more details because complete does not encompass those two terms.
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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #469 on: June 13, 2018, 02:08:58 PM »
I think he was pissed that they kept referring to "irreversible" and "verifiable" not being in the document when he already said that "complete" encompassed those two terms.

the journalists may have thought the public would desire more details because complete does not encompass those two terms.
I dunno, man. I just posted the transcript because I think his bizarre "insulting" remark was referring to a different question than what was posted in the tweet.

I think it's weird too.

But I do have a lot more faith in Pompeo than I do Trump.


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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #470 on: June 13, 2018, 02:14:42 PM »
I do have a lot more faith in Pompeo than I do Trump.

pompeo is an ambitious man.
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Re: Korean Peace Process
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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #472 on: June 13, 2018, 03:05:11 PM »
Somebody is adding these after the fact, right?

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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #473 on: June 14, 2018, 07:36:54 AM »
gotta salute the troops


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Re: Korean Peace Process
« Reply #474 on: June 14, 2018, 07:42:46 AM »
I mean, I don't GAF who he or anyone else salutes. it's a meaningless gesture and he's obviously a confused old man. however, it's very fun to think about the reaction this would have gotten had Obama been this big of a buffoon and done the same thing.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/20/trump-shakes-hands-with-saudi-leader-doesnt-bow-as-obama-appeared-to-do.html